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Ok i read a few posts here that diamond has usb host. Depending on the information how you can flash your rom using card reader it must have. And one thing more i found usb host debuging program. So i think it must have.
The question here is - does someone managed to use it for hard drive or keyboard or something like that ?
Regards
IIRC, the USB host functionality is only available in the boot loader, and there is no driver included for when WM is actually running.
Ok but cant it be included somehow in the windows ?
Diamond does not have USB host functionality. AFAIK, currently only X75xx series offers it.
kdskamal said:
Diamond does not have USB host functionality. AFAIK, currently only X75xx series offers it.
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So, could somebody more capable extract driver from that device and cook a new ROM maybe?????
kdskamal said:
Diamond does not have USB host functionality. AFAIK, currently only X75xx series offers it.
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And the Toshiba G900 has it as well. And it was frickin awsome .....
Last call !!!!
I am trying to draw an attention of experts/cooks again.
Please could somebody elaborate problem of an USB host within Diamond. Is it really impossible to add/implement the USB host driver into Diamond ROM or somewhere else to have that feature in? I simply do not believe in that.
its possible....but the diamond lacks developer's support , sadly
blufade said:
its possible....but the diamond lacks developers support , sadly
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That maybe true, I don't know, but I'm sure the Raphael doesn't, so perhaps look for a solution in that forum?
If i knew how to write one i would do it -.-
USB Host
any conclusions yet? does this mean that the diamond has hardware in it, but does not have the driver? have anyone tried this cable? http://www.nazo-fjt.com/ptcep/w-zero3/es_usb.html
it's in japanese though, but in seconds through babelfish, it is readable in english.
anybody?
for example: anyone can modify RescoExplorer. so when you connect a pendrive to diamond, by resco you can see the pendrive as a second storage......i think thath the logic is this...
any news about this?I'm very interested in it...
There are news! It's there! Now we'd need a host driver and then a lot of Windows Mobile drivers for a lot of devices (what about watching TV with DVB stick? *fg*).
so do what about our WinMo's... I think its only for androids
Is this (as title) possible, I mean there are these foldable silicone keyboards wich are small and easy to take with you, but is there any software which makes it work?
Thanks in advaced
Willem
I was able to achieve this with my TyTn II and my diNovo edge. But as far as Iremember the behaviour was quite strange with non standard char (àéô...).
I tried just 5 minutes, just wanted to see if the dinovo edge was able to achieve it.
fun_key said:
I was able to achieve this with my TyTn II and my diNovo edge. But as far as Iremember the behaviour was quite strange with non standard char (àéô...).
I tried just 5 minutes, just wanted to see if the dinovo edge was able to achieve it.
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Did you connect it with USB? cause if that worked I supose all keyboards maid work, I now Bluetooth special keyboards does work well but I have here a microsoft bluetooth keyboard and mouse the mouse worked fine at my Diamond but the keyboard I couldn't get to work.
Willem
there is no usb host on diamond...
Brendo said:
there is no usb host on diamond...
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Some say there is...
Ouatch, sorry guys; I didn't paid attention. I connected it through bluetooth and not USB.
As far as I know HTC devices does not have USB host capability so it should be impossible to achieve this through USB.
Athena does
and of cause htc shift
I believe the diamond must have a USB host, if you look at the service manual, there is a option to flash the phone with an external SD Adapter, there is only one logical way i can see this happening,
USB Host
I think we just need to wait to a driver or something to activate the host function in diamond!
USB Host Cable
any conclusions yet? does this mean that the diamond has hardware in it, but does not have the driver? have anyone tried this cable? http://www.nazo-fjt.com/ptcep/w-zero3/es_usb.html
it's in japanese though, but in seconds through babelfish, it is readable in english.
anybody?
Does anyone know if it is possible to use Kaiser to project a power point presentation, bypassing the need for a laptop, and without the use of an intermediate device like the Margi PDA presenter? I read that the new HTC phones may be able to do that, if so is this a software or special hardware wiring? is it a function of the device being VGA or qVGA display? I would appreciate an explanantion by one of the experts.
You are hearing about a technology that hasn't yet been released... it will be a micro projector built into the phone or as an ipod sized accessory.
researchermd said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to use Kaiser to project a power point presentation, bypassing the need for a laptop
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If you mean the sort of video output dongle thats possible to use with the Touch Pro and other devices, no it won't work if used with the Kaiser. I've not tried it with my Kaiser, I've just read it here somewhere on XDA-DEV that it doesn't work with a Kaiser.
I am talking about the ability of the new devices e.g. Fuze to connect directly to a TV or slide projector using a special cable from the mini USB on on one end and has RCA connections on the other to attach to the external display device. See this:
http://www.htc.com/us/product.aspx?id=58080
Kaiser doesn't support/have the TV Out feature, this was asked and explain before, just search the kaiser forum and you will get your answer.
DG
Hello!!
I installed tvout.cab from other HTC device to XPERIA.
In folder windows, after installation, some files were creates: HTCTVOutPopUp.exe,HTCTVOutPopUp.png, etc, etc.....
I plug my tv out cable from n95(Jack to RGB(yellow/white/red)), but only the sound from my xperia listen in my tv, no image at all.
Then, I tried to click and execute HTCTVOutPopUp.exe from windows folder with cable jack plug to my TV, but nothing happens.
Also I tried to modify some registry values like:
HKLM\ControlPanel\TVOutSetting, HKLM\ControlPanel\TVOutSetting
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOutPopUp/PAL...etc, etc...nothings seems to works.
Sound listen ok, but no image.
I think, that if there are any change that tv-out xperia works, the right cable to plug to TV is mini-usb to RGB like touch pro and no jack to RGB.
I hope you understand my post...I am from Spain and I am writing too fast.
It will not work...
Xperia doesnt have any tv-out features
Thanks for trying it out. Like you said, if there is something there, the system will be identical to touch pro.
Would be funny if the connectors are there
From what I hear Touch Pro has a proprietary USB connector that has more pins and uses them for audio and TV-out. On the other hand XPERIA has a standard miniB USB plug that doesn't host more pins for these functions.
If it doesn't work from the 3.5mm jack I doubt that it will work at all (except if it is a software problem). I am quite disappointed with SE because the hardware is there but they didn't bother to implement the feature.
There are another couple of threads about this already, stating most of what's been said here. There is a "TVOutEnable" or similar reg setting that someone found, though I can't seem to find it on my X1i (more than likely due to the custom ROM, it was on the standard Vodafone UK ROM). Thing is this reg setting is about 6-7 digits long, not just a 0 or 1.
I'd like to see if this setting is also on the Touch Pro, and see if copying this setting to the xperia would make a difference.
Another point is that other phones using the same 4-pin audio output route the TVOut function to the headphone/mic connectors, as does the Touch pro; IF the TVOut function is at all doable, then it will more than likely use the headphone socket. Domin8or said in another thread that the USB connector actually has plated connectors on the other side, like the proprietary HTC USB socket, but I can't tell from looking at mine whether that's true or not, though I intend to test it out by hacking the headset I got with the Touch Pro to fit into the xperia USB socket to see if there are any connectors there.
I somehow reckon this will be done at some point, provided we can get the correct reg settings and software to work; the TVOut function as I understand is part of the chipset, which is just ignored by SE in the xperia, probably because of licensing fees/other costs involved with getting the functionality "approved" by qualcomm. If the TVOut functions on other phones use the same connectors as the headset/mic, then I don't see why the connectors wouldn't be present and connected on the xperia, just not enabled by software... That'll be a job for us* at XDA then
When I say "us" I mean the community in general, there are way, way more talented people here than me who might be able to help with this, I just hope I can help in any way I can testing etc...
Hello!!
That are the values that I "played" in order to try video out works via jack cable.
HKLM\ControlPanel\TVOutSetting/
Group 0/1
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOut\
FunctionEnable 0/1
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOutPopUp\
PAL 4
TVMode 4
sethh said:
Hello!!
That are the values that I "played" in order to try video out works via jack cable.
HKLM\ControlPanel\TVOutSetting/
Group 0/1
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOut\
FunctionEnable 0/1
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOutPopUp\
PAL 4
TVMode 4
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sorry I`m not english speaking. but are you saying video out works or You just tryed?
i tried my wired htc remote in the x1 and couldnt get it too work, got it hacked down to shape but it wasnt recognised by the device
its also not the same internals as the touch pro or hd as theres no g sensor
well, unless there are hardware limitations, ex : missing pin or those htc devices are using special jacks; i don't see why it won't work in x1 since it's more than 90% similar to Pro and HD, but perhaps it will need more than just a simple registry hacks.
I guess this all depend on the kindness and dedications from many smarter guys in entire x1 communities.
Hi
Its ane hope to make TV OUT in xperia working?
Sort for my anglish
Did anyone tried putting the Rom of a touch pro to x1 then try the tv out with it?
what
a
pointless
thread...
there is no hardware inside xperia to have tv-out. it is the same case like with people looking for fm radio in tytn 2. if I am wrong, I will eat my shorts.
bronx said:
there is no hardware inside xperia to have tv-out. it is the same case like with people looking for fm radio in tytn 2. if I am wrong, I will eat my shorts.
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Actually the hardware IS there, we just don't know if it is connected to the USB or audio jack.
It is true though that this seems a long shot.
one of the reasons why I bought the Xperia is because of the TV out....Yikes!
I should have given it a little more research before buying, but if it is really possible, I hope somebody finds out how to do it.
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Actually the hardware IS there, we just don't know if it is connected to the USB or audio jack.
It is true though that this seems a long shot.
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probably not connected to anything brah
So at last is it possible or no ?
It won't work and probably never will.
It won't work because of the contacts e.g. 3.5mm it lacks the contacts for video only for left and right speaker and for mini usb, it lacks pins.. it only works with data and charging..
You may not know how useful USB host is. You can use USB stick (up to 32GB), USB keyboard, USB mouse.
If it had USB host, I'd buy it for sure (wifi only).
Sadly NO...
On German Amazon its possible to pre order the device and the datasheed isnt saying something about USB Host
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/B1gfmv71YkS.pdf
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0041RSF6Y/
This one was my favorite (because of the Phone capability) until you asked this very good question
Maybe they got it rooted in future and then its possible? (depends also on hardware...)
Greetz Tokl
I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
I guess what gets hacked depends on what the hackers think is worth doing, and I can see that USB host would be an especailly awesome thing for the Tab so hopefully it will get some interest.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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This is SO true. I remember people trying for years to hack USB host mode in to Nokia's Linux Tablets: the N770 and such. I wonder: Did they ever manage to do it?
LostAlone said:
I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
AnttiV said:
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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I don't know about the N8, sadly I just don't have much interest in that part of the mobile space. However, some googling seems to indicate that it is possible (news articles say so) but I don't know if its naitive or needs hacking.
As for the keyboard and stuff, thats a good point. I can't see them using a non-usb standard for that, so it must just be the proprietary connector that makes the difference. In that case, all we should need is a Tab-USB connector, and a few drivers. That would really give the tab some muscle.
In general can mobile devices support the USB min-harddrives ? The ones that power from the port ? If thats possible then the tab will kick serious ass. 250 gigs in your pocket for cheaper than a microSD card.
I'm not really a fan of Nokia's products either, although they USED to make great products they haven't done so in awhile. And I *hate* Symbian. Anyways, at least the N8 DOES have some USB Host capabilities:
"Among the Nokia N8's neater tricks is its support for USB On-The-Go, which basically lets you connect USB peripherals (flash drives, for example) to the phone and have it act as a host..."
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/30/nokia-n8s-usb-on-the-go-support-demoed-lesser-phones-turned-in/
That was almost perfectly offtopic, sorry for that ^_^
Oh, or not, perhaps! Look what I JUST found:
"USB Standard port adapter
With this kit your Galaxy Tab becomes a standard USB port. With this USB port you can synchronize your digital camera or other devices."
http://www.oled-display.net/more-sa...s-bluetooth-pen-standard-usb-adapter-and-more
Well if they are going to officially make an adapter then maybe we are going to get USB Host... I can't see how you could transfer things off a digicam without the Tab hosting it as a drive.
Well... This looks pretty awesome then.
But they *CAN* cripple the functionality to just mass-storage devices or perhaps just cameras, like Apple did with their USB Camera connection kit, or whatever it was called.
Let's just hope that Samsung doesn't go that route.
Hopefully samsung aren't that stupid Although in theory we should be able to hack it back open anyway, and its a good start at least.
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I'm also wondering about usb host (or at least OTG) on the Tab (as I'm considering buying on to port Meego to).
Could someone who has the keyboard doc post the dmesg output once it's been plugged in please?
From some dmesg output I saw elsewhere (but not with the keyboard dock), it appears that the USB chipset is an OTG version, and seeing it act in host mode with the keyboard doc plugged in would be a nice confirmation.
I Would be interested to see the anser for this one.
Yes it is launched (mainly for photographers) i have seen it's price, very cool cheap at £10000 plus something!
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It's not the Fools Day yet, so keep your jokes at bay.
OK, I just ordered a keyboard dock and I'll have a look. I'll post a dmesg output and open it to see if the PCB is marked in any way.
According to the pinout (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838) there seems to be no other way for data to flow apart from USB.
So one of the following must (should) be true:
1. Samsung is reusing the pins for a proprietary protocol -probably reconfiguring the device by pulling up or down other pins.
2. The device is capable of host/OTG mode but it is probably unpowered and it probably needs a pin pull-up/pull-down to enable.
3. The keyboard is using unidentified pins, and the USB pins are used simply for the PC connection and power.
Does anyone know if the keyboard acts as a proper dock? i.e. when you connect it to the pc does it work at the same time as (say) KIES or drive mount?
Just a quick update, the keyboard was just shipped, and I should have it by Tuesday.
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Hi,
Just wondering whether you got any further with this?
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There was a problem with my order (the company didn't have any in stock) and the keyboard hasn't arrived yet. Still waiting!
I'll post the moment it arrives.
EDIT: Normally I would name and shame the company, but they are sending me a couple of freebies for their mistake so I'm happy
USB host
This is a good concept. I have an Archos 70 and a Galaxy tab. Archos has a micro usb port with which I connected my USB host adapter and the key board and mouse works . Flash drive and router dongle says more power required. So I am looking for a powered USB connector for this.
Unfortunately, Galaxy tab has different cable and I dont know if I can find a host cable for this. Any suggestion?
Worth a shot?
After reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838
I checked the G-Tab pinout :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
and tried to ground pin 13 to put the tab in host mode last night... needless to say since I'm typing this on my computer... epic fail. However, I'm curious if anyone else has had any success with this.
I'm not too much of a fan of buying something to destroy... but if I have to disassemble a dock to get the pinout for monitor mode... suck!
Anyone have any advice as to what I jacked up here?