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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...going-away-all-users-pushed-onto-shared-data/
I knew Big Red would find a way eventually, didn't think it would have been this soon.
For now it is only those on 3G with 3G phones but everyone else will soon follow. Sprint is looking good about now.
Quite sad of what Big Red is doing. Looks like ATT is my next best choice for coverage since T-Mobile still has 2G in my area and Sprint has 3G and ATT has 4G also.
This makes the news yesterday about Google possibly selling unlocked "Nexus" devices in the Play Store all the more interesting. Then pick your carrier. I see a possible loophole if by some miracle there are CDMA/LTE Nexus devices I will never have to re-up my contract. That looks how to be only way to keep unlimited at this point is never renewing or upgrading phone through Verizon once they have this bullsh*t program in full swing.
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This makes the news yesterday about Google possibly selling unlocked "Nexus" devices in the Play Store all the more interesting. Then pick your carrier. I see a possible loophole if by some miracle there are CDMA/LTE Nexus devices I will never have to re-up my contract. That looks how to be only way to keep unlimited at this point is never renewing or upgrading phone through Verizon once they have this bullsh*t program in full swing.
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Sadly, They only sell GSM phones for now which needs to change. But, they said in the post that everybody will eventually be forced into a "shared" plan that even not upgrading they'll still put you into one from my understanding unless I missed something.
Gel Pen6 said:
Sadly, They only sell GSM phones for now which needs to change. But, they said in the post that everybody will eventually be forced into a "shared" plan that even not upgrading they'll still put you into one from my understanding unless I missed something.
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Damn.. just looked at the Play Store and didn't know they would have that up so fast. BUT the good news is they are going to have Nexus phones and tablets about 5 different NEW devices and not just Motorola so I will have to keep an eye out. My contract isn't over with til 2013 anyways. Hoping by then for a 4.3-4.5" Motorola Droid 5 or variant with full QWERTY which is my dream phone right now. I cannot go to a 4.0" phone after 4.3" but I miss the physical QWERTY of my D1.
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Damn.. just looked at the Play Store and didn't know they would have that up so fast. BUT the good news is they are going to have Nexus phones and tablets about 5 different NEW devices and not just Motorola so I will have to keep an eye out. My contract isn't over with til 2013 anyways. Hoping by then for a 4.3-4.5" Motorola Droid 5 or variant with full QWERTY which is my dream phone right now. I cannot go to a 4.0" phone after 4.3" but I miss the physical QWERTY of my D1.
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Mine isn't over till Summer of 2013 but I was planning on stealing one of my family members upgrade plans since they have one this coming November which is exactly the time when the new Nexus phones come out but I'll have to see if me and my family stick around with Verizon until then. Also, the Droid 4 has a physical qwerty keyboard which I'm not sure how people can use a physical keyboard (I had a physical keyboard before this phone) and I've messed around on the physical keyboard and It feels so weird to even type on it when I use to be able to type paragraphs in seconds on that phone without even looking at the keyboard.
Here is another article with a little clarification...
http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2012/0...-plan-unless-you-buy-a-new-subsidized-device/
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Went into the Verizon store near me and asked them about it and they said that they don't even know about only through customers coming in. He said that corporate sent them an email saying they haven't released anything yet on it.
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lol.. my experience the Verizon Store employees don't ever know anything
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lol.. my experience the Verizon Store employees don't ever know anything
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Or they just play stupid.
drt054 said:
lol.. my experience the Verizon Store employees don't ever know anything
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Lol that's true.
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More than likely they are in the know, they are just directed to play stupid as being knowledgeable does nothing to help their bottom line or store sales.
If I lose my unlimited, I'm going to leave Verizon and go to some bootleg company like Boost. I hate Sprint so will never go back to them.
I pay what I pay for the 3 lines that I have because I like ny unlimited. I lose that...how about it don't be worth the money anymore. I'd rather pay $50 a phone with boost or cricket or metropcs.
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Interesting article
Thanks for the article; it will be interesting to see if Verizon does indeed follow through with eliminating the grandfathering of unlimited data plan. This is one of the features my wife and I both love.
I went to Verizon yesterday and the guy said he's heard about it but he's never gotten any official thing that he said if it is implemented it'll be at the end of the year or somewhere around there.
This whole thing is weird to me...
We have US Cellular out here, and if they can get a few more phone options I may just go with them. Everyone I talk to says they are a breeze to deal with and the network is good enough to work with.
Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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It's not fair :'(
My grandparents live in a rural area and its where I spend about 1/4 of the year. Tmobile and Att are GPRS, but Sprint and Verizon have 3g. Its the only internet there and I need reliable internet for work. I can't get the new Nexus.
I know I'm in a small boat of people but I'm still going to post my sob story. I just love the Nexus program.
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That really sucks, but yeah, I think Google itself has said that it did not like how the Verizon Galaxy Nexus turned out. In the end, if anyone's been there through the Galaxy S, or S2, or S3, we do know that carrier's influence really does bring down phones, such as a slower processor or bloatware or lack of features. Still, they could have opted for some type of CDMA model but I'm not sure whether they need to work directly with Verizon/Sprint to make it happen.
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Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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Yeah, I'm kinda bummed about this as well. I'm on Ting, which rides Sprint's network (and occasionally Verizon's voice network), and this phone annihilates everything else in the price range. The best unsubsidized option at $300 at the moment is the Samsung Galaxy Victory, which while capable, isn't exactly a phone to get excited about--while the SGSIII clocks in starting at $530. The Nexus line has been really appealing as far as price/quality goes. I was really hoping this would end up on Sprint so I could send a well-built phone out to my mom in the sticks where LTE probably won't rear it's ugly head for another few years.
Oh well, I suppose I can take solace from the fact that I couldn't get this phone even if I'd stuck with Verizon.
I've been on Cingular then T-Mobile for 4 years. Ported to Verizon just for the Galaxy Nexus. Now I'm paying the ETF and porting over to at&t. No real problems with Verizon, its just their LTE network is abysmal on battery...and I work for at&t so I get a good discount on service. Just waiting for a good reason to switch.
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I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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You'll be glad once you do too, unless you are living in some area where there is no access to T-Mobile 3G. Otherwise its so much better.
eksasol said:
You'll be glad once you do too, unless you are living in some area where there is no access to T-Mobile 3G. Otherwise its so much better.
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Haha yeah, Sprint has been getting better for me, however their speed still sucks when compared to AT&T and T-mobile in my area. Plus, my plan is nearly $100, when I seriously just want text and data lol, I don't care about talking. And also, I find it annoying being on a CDMA network because all these great phone come out, and I have to wait a pro-longed time period to get my hands on one.
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Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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I am switching from Sprint for this very reason. Tired of missing out on all the good phones aaaaaannnnnnnd Sprint service is horrible in centrel florida
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I've been on Cingular then T-Mobile for 4 years. Ported to Verizon just for the Galaxy Nexus. Now I'm paying the ETF and porting over to at&t. No real problems with Verizon, its just their LTE network is abysmal on battery...and I work for at&t so I get a good discount on service. Just waiting for a good reason to switch.
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If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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Been there done that. 2GB of data and I got warning calls. Don't expect them to be good at all!
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Entropy512 said:
If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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I'll be doing the same thing, but I may ride the T-Mobile side of the service for faster 3G.
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Been there done that. 2GB of data and I got warning calls. Don't expect them to be good at all!
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I have went over 5gb's a month on ST and never experienced slow down or ever had a warning message
Entropy512 said:
If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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I am planning on leaving sprint to for this devices. Any ideas on what a good carrier to switch too? Without worrying about going over your data limits
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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If T-Mobile coverage is a good option for you Solevei and Simple Mobile are 2 very good alternatives. Solevei doesnt throttle till 4gb and SM states it doesnt throttle at all as long as you play "nice" with the network.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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There would be (hefty) early termination fees. A nice thing is that even if she has the Verizon version, it can handle GSM.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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Forewarning on those who want to jump to StraightTalk.
StraightTalk has occasional issues where you will lose Data connectivity and the only solution is to restart hoping it has returned. Happened a lot to my girlfriend and dropped them on September. Rumor has it AT&T is throttling mvno networks or some sort. I haven't heard them fixing the issue but
Reference:
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2012/08/persistent-data-problems-frustrating.html
There are links to various forums there with the same complaint. Try and see if the issue is fixed.
People think T-Mobile will be good and rosy until they actually make the switch to T-Mobile.
I say this... T-Mobile is a good carrier if they have good service where you live and you don't ever leave your area.
But, if you try doing ANY kind of traveling, good luck. I loved T-Mobile when I first got them. I didn't travel much. Then, I started traveling because I got a new job, and I was almost always roaming, had crap service, and tons of dropped calls.
That lasted about a week and then I paid the ETF and got the heck out of there.
No problems on Verizon. Love them, never a dropped call, LTE service almost everywhere I go... Just wish they would stop thinking they're making their users experiences better...THEY AREN'T!
Not sure where you travel, I have always had T-Mobile and travel all over. I cant think of a single time I didnt have good connectivity or service. Any good sized city probably already has "4G" and smaller ones have excellent coverage. I suppose if you find yourself outside of the city you may run into issues, I never have in 5+ years.
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Not sure where you travel, I have always had T-Mobile and travel all over. I cant think of a single time I didnt have good connectivity or service. Any good sized city probably already has "4G" and smaller ones have excellent coverage. I suppose if you find yourself outside of the city you may run into issues, I never have in 5+ years.
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T-mobile works fine all over Califoronia, from SD to the norcal. Verizon has the best network service but then again they cost almost double of what t-mobile users are paying. T-mobile users also have unlimited data and up to 5GB of 4G.
Also with simcard base phone, they can be re-used all over the wordl and have higher resell value. You can only sell a verizon phone to verrizon customer.
I know VZW sucks when it comes to updates and everything. But I was hoping the nexus 4 would have 4G LTE...now that I have had LTE i can't go back.
I could see it "maybe" coming to vzw and other carriers like that down the road. Google playing it smart to roll unlocked first then go from there. In all aspects GSM is cheaper in many ways.
#Galaxy Nexus HSPA+
Google's relationship with Verizon has been strained to say the least. I doubt you'll ever see the two working together in the life time of the Nexus 4.
Honestly I'd be surprised if Google even bothered to support US CDMA carriers at all.
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I could see it "maybe" coming to vzw and other carriers like that down the road. Google playing it smart to roll unlocked first then go from there. In all aspects GSM is cheaper in many ways.
#Galaxy Nexus HSPA+
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in a way i am happy though. because i am not a fan of LG products in any way. i still refer to LG as "Low Grade"
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in a way i am happy though. because i am not a fan of LG products in any way. i still refer to LG as "Low Grade"
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That was the coolest story I've ever heard.
If you don't like LG then why are you bit!!!ng here
I don't care as a T-mobile user
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I don't care as a T-mobile user
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Same, left Verizon after the OG Droid to T-Mobile for all the nexus phones following it. So glad I did. Costs me less than 1/2 the cost I was paying at verizon monthly as well
Yeah what about sprint too. But sprint lte is taking forever it is a mile away from me and the speeds are not even that great. Don't think its fully launched but knowing sprint for 11 years speed has never been there thing. Switching to T-Mobile soon
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There are a couple wish list threads for this type of discussion.
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As a Verizon User, I was so ready for the Nexus 5 to come out on Verizon and when it didn't, yet the hardware supported it, I knew there had to be a way to get this device to run on Verizon's Network. So, naturally I looked around on Forums and such and here is what we know right now:
- The WTR1625L Built by Qualcomm (The Same chip in the G2) Does in fact have hardware support for Verizon
- The Nexus 5 DOES recognize Verizon as a network and has even allowed some users to browse on Band 4 LTE Shown here
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847&page=32)
- CDMA Voice and Band 13 Currently do not work (As Expected)
- A User named Ken GS4 over on the Google Forums here, was in fact able to have his Nexus 5's IMEI registered and active inside of Verizon's Database, and then theoretically, should "Activate". Now, Ken has stated that the phone would not work on CDMA or Band 13 however he does not live in a band 4 area and was unable to check on that
(http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/Jv9FAwucMWM/7pIfTKxY5yUJ)
- Additionally, Ken had stated that the Verizon Wireless employees told him that on their end everything checked out and so, it had to be something in the Firmware that would be blocking it
- Some users on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505847 have attempted flashing the LG G2 Radios at no avail, so unless those files are heavily modded in order to allow the Nexus 5 to turn on without a boot loop, that solution is out.
So, It looks as though all of us Verizon Users need a developer to look deep into the code, find what is blocking the Verizon network, and create a flashable zip which could remedy the solution and allow the WTR1625L to work as it does in the G2 but without any blockage. Now, developers, as we know, are busy and need to put food on the table. So, I propose we start a kickstarter/IndieGogo Campaign, along with a WILLING DEVELOPER, and have all of us Verizon users put our money where our mouths are. We would need to raise enough money to get a Developer a Nexus 5, and enough for a Verizon plan for at least a month, along with some extra cash to allow him/her to have payment for completing this incredibly large task. So, We are calling out to you, THE DEVELOPERS, to contact me so I can create a kickstarter/indiegogo campaign in your name, so that you can raise enough money to help all of us Get This Phone working on Big Red!!!
Screw Verizon. I left them after 5 years of sh!tty droid phones. I even had grandfathered unlimited data.
N5->VZW=Headache
Solution :
Sell N5 + Buy VZW G2=No Headache
Just sayin....
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Nexus will never "officially" be on Verizon again
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As much as I HATE to say this, I don't think it will ever work.
It will probably never happen I was with VZW for 10 years and I just switched to att and its been so much better just get out if u can.
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If Verizon wanted the phone on their network they would have made a deal with LG/Google to do so legally. It seems to me an attempt to hack software to allow a phone to operate on a private company's bandwidth smacks of being illegal. If they wanted it, it would already be there. If you love the phone, take it where it works. If you live VZW, then pick something in their product line.
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As much as I HATE to say this, I don't think it will ever work.
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And THIS is the reason I am switching to T-Mo next month after 15 years with VZW. The GNex debacle was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Can't wait to have a REAL Nexus.
sorry verizon people, your just going to have to accept that verizon will not ever get a nexus device, due to how they handled the galaxy nexus. And they shouldnt after that.(
I left verizon & unlimited data about a month & a half ago. Sure, I hated to lose unlimited data. But, I wanted the N5. Sometimes you have to make hard decisions. Give up the good fight with verizon, you will not prevail. Leave as soon as you can if you can have good service with another provider.
um, WTR1625L is the transceiver. there are other components that need to be compatible (modem which is inside the snapdragon 800 chip, antennas)
you probably need to modify modem as well.... good luck finding the source code (FCC regulates the baseband) or hacking it
I'm gone from Verizon too. Have only found one place where I get no signal on tmo and in fact have a better signal in my office than I ever did on vzw. To the poster above, why would you lose unlimited? I'm on prepaid unlimited everything. Don't miss vzw too much. They won't legally allow a true nexus on their network any time soon so if you want a nexus you better be prepared to leave big red...
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A lot of people don't seem to understand that Verizon throttles people's bandwith once they hit a certain limit on their data. It's still unlimited, but you'll be getting it a lot slower eventually if you use a lot of data. The same goes with any "unlimited" data plan from prepaid carriers these days, you typically pay for a certain amount of data at "full 4G/LTE speeds" and then once you hit that limit, you get throttled down to a slower download and upload rate.
I'm on Aio Wireless and get 8+/- mbps on LTE (They cap you at 8mbps on LTE), but once I hit my limit, I go to 256kbps which is still plenty fast enough to surf the web. You're not going to stream netflix in HD off of that little bandwith, but for many people it'll do the job just fine for facebook, surfing the web, checking emails, etc.
I left Verizon a year ago, and I'll never go back to them ever. Even if they lowered their prices to be competitive with T-Mobile or other prepaid carriers, it's not worth their bloatware loaded phones, cdma network, or software update timeline.
Verizon will never get a nexus. Nor do they deserve one. They hold off updates etc. And that's not what a nexus is about. I had unlimited data on Verizon. And was with then for 10+ years. Sold my **** and left. Got straight talk using att towers. It's been a month and I'm much better off.
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A bit of an analogous story, I bought an HP touchpad during the firesale and the community back then was so hellbent on getting android to work on the HP tablet because the native webos was a dying ecosystem. Lo and behold a bunch of developers actually managed to get Android onto the HP touchpad but it didn't run very well because the touchpad's hardware wasn't optimized for android to begin with. It was a crappy, unstable experience.
Alot of credit and Kudos go to the developers who made this possible, however. Those guys were amazing but the long and short of it is that you're going to be making a huge effort to get a subpar experience. If you can't break from the Verizon network, you might as well just get something which is officially supported or naively runs on the Verizon network.
TLR you're putting a bunch of effort in achieving a subpar experience at best.
Just leave Verizon. They charge way too much and have crap phones. Jump ship to T-Mobile or att
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Jesus people just don't understand. it's technically just not feasible to use it on Verizon.
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I left verizon for ATT and am not looking back. I used to love verizon becuase of the great service but ATT has the same if not better service. I even left with a corporate discount and unlimited data. The Nexus 5 was just worth it.
Another one here that left a corporate discount and grandfathered unlimited data just to have an unadulterated Android experience with the Nexus 5. I miss the unlimited 4G and that there were more LTE towers for verizon in my area but it was a sacrifice I had to make. Saves me some $$ in the long run and I have a much better phone because of it.
why do people insist that this is possible? it's not going to work, just move on to another carrier.
I am coming from my last few phones being Samsung models , the Galaxy Nexus, Note 2 and 3, and the S4. The last Motorola phone I had was a Droid Razr. I left Moto because the hardware specks started to decline, no sd-slot, no removable battery, less desirable construction. I came back due to Samsung's questionable antenna and radio package. I never really had good strong signal with Samsung though. So, Motorola finally comes out with a beast of a phone in the specs catagory, although still no sd or battery pull but my signal is amazing, reception just about everywhere. So I'm confused why is there no development for the US Verizon Turbo? To me it seems like a no brainer.
That one is easy to answer... Until a vulnerability is found and exploited and root is achieved there is no platform to develop on. That doesn't mean that there isn't anyone working on it, just that not much is going to happen until root is achieved.
Then how do we get some of the heavy hitting android minds on this thing? It really is the best specimen out there currently.
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That one is easy to answer... Until a vulnerability is found and exploited and root is achieved there is no platform to develop on. That doesn't mean that there isn't anyone working on it, just that not much is going to happen until root is achieved.
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I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a newbie here, but I never understood the software difference between Droid Turbo and Moto Maxx that makes the last rootable and the first not. Is it just the bootloader?
You can unlock the Moto Maxx bootloader. You cannot unlock the Turbo's. Plain and simple.
DarkLey said:
I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a newbie here, but I never understood the software difference between Droid Turbo and Moto Maxx that makes the last rootable and the first not. Is it just the bootloader?
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Two words. Unlockable bootloader.
DarkLey said:
I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a newbie here, but I never understood the software difference between Droid Turbo and Moto Maxx that makes the last rootable and the first not. Is it just the bootloader?
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All bootloaders can be unlocked by the manufacturer. But in the case of the Verizon variant (Droid Turbo) Verizon has asked/told Motorola to keep the bootloader locked. Ergo the need for a vulnerability - and someone who knows how to exploit it.
Everything I've been reading indicates that root for the Turbo is a long shot, since the folks that do that stuff really don't want to spend the efforts on a phone that's strictly on only one carryier, Verizon in this case.
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Everything I've been reading indicates that root for the Turbo is a long shot, since the folks that do that stuff really don't want to spend the efforts on a phone that's strictly on only one carryier, Verizon in this case.
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Don't blame it on that. The Thunderbolt was exclusive and had root before it even was officially released.
It more boils down to that those who can do it have day jobs and probably don't have the phone nor care to have it.
adrynalyne said:
Don't blame it on that. The Thunderbolt was exclusive and had root before it even was officially released.
It more boils down to that those who can do it have day jobs and probably don't have the phone nor care to have it.
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Like I said, I really don't know. I'm just repeating what I've said, however I can understand your point as well.
Are there any recognized developers that even have the phone? I know its a bad idea to purchase devices and "loan" them to developers, but I feel like we should donate a few. Something like the bounty for root, but the money funds devices ahead of time. Find a few devs that would be interested and give them the device. It would have to be no strings attached though, if the Dev had no success people couldn't demand their money back. You would know ahead of time that you were donating for the chance at root, not a guarantee. Probably would just end up being an ordeal, but we really need capable devs with the device to take a look. I feel like at this point were just waiting for another moto device to get rooted that happens to work for us.
No root, no recovery, but moto maxx its same device basic "quark" have root and recovery too, but no roms or kernel, the real problem is device dont sell in all countrys, so no devs until now.
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I am coming from my last few phones being Samsung models , the Galaxy Nexus, Note 2 and 3, and the S4. The last Motorola phone I had was a Droid Razr. I left Moto because the hardware specks started to decline, no sd-slot, no removable battery, less desirable construction. I came back due to Samsung's questionable antenna and radio package. I never really had good strong signal with Samsung though. So, Motorola finally comes out with a beast of a phone in the specs catagory, although still no sd or battery pull but my signal is amazing, reception just about everywhere. So I'm confused why is there no development for the US Verizon Turbo? To me it seems like a no brainer.
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I know this thread isnt about sd card slot, but why not go and use a otg usb sd mount stick? Its like having a sd card.
I am guessing that since Verizon is furnishing mobile and internet to some major corporations, the corporate environment wants to have phones secure. Hence that is why they want the bootloader locked as to appeal to the major companies and sell more phones. That was the reason it was when I worked for a major company.
web_ninja said:
I am guessing that since Verizon is furnishing mobile and internet to some major corporations, the corporate environment wants to have phones secure. Hence that is why they want the bootloader locked as to appeal to the major companies and sell more phones. That was the reason it was when I worked for a major company.
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That is not the reason. All carriers have deals like that and not all of them are locking bootloaders.
Verizon is doing it for warranty, support, and insurance reasons.
adrynalyne said:
That is not the reason. All carriers have deals like that and not all of them are locking bootloaders.
Verizon is doing it for warranty, support, and insurance reasons.
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I am making the switch to tmobile at the end of the day today because verizon straight out is trying to over charge for stuff on the bill that shouldnt be there. No one on my account has ever used the visual voicemail paid version nor gone over usage and my fiancees line is said to be 600 dollars or more a month. Not happening. I called tmobile and talked to them for a bit, and explained to her about the bill she gave me the best deal plus with unlimited data for 70 a month. Bringing over my nexus 6. After that was all done I just randomly asked questions about locked bootloaders and root, and the lady spoken clear as day is we are not verizon or att. We support the development community (root and unlocked bootloaders), and that all devices are unlockable in that sense. Tmobile is a go to company for me. Yes some of the service is spotty but still its well worth it for having to deal with verizon since 1998. She even brought up that she is currently using an s5 with cyanogenmod. They actually allow their employees to do that stuff to their work phones as long as they know how to return to stock. Verizon you have been ok in the past but i am out.
Have a good day guys. Happy flashing
the_rooter said:
I am making the switch to tmobile at the end of the day today because verizon straight out is trying to over charge for stuff on the bill that shouldnt be there. No one on my account has ever used the visual voicemail paid version nor gone over usage and my fiancees line is said to be 600 dollars or more a month. Not happening. I called tmobile and talked to them for a bit, and explained to her about the bill she gave me the best deal plus with unlimited data for 70 a month. Bringing over my nexus 6. After that was all done I just randomly asked questions about locked bootloaders and root, and the lady spoken clear as day is we are not verizon or att. We support the development community (root and unlocked bootloaders), and that all devices are unlockable in that sense. Tmobile is a go to company for me. Yes some of the service is spotty but still its well worth it for having to deal with verizon since 1998. She even brought up that she is currently using an s5 with cyanogenmod. They actually allow their employees to do that stuff to their work phones as long as they know how to return to stock. Verizon you have been ok in the past but i am out.
Have a good day guys. Happy flashing
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I tried T-Mobile a couple of months ago for exactly the reasons you described. I wanted to stay with them so badly but I just couldn't deal the spotty coverage. Ended up back with Verizon. Hopefully you have better luck!
the_rooter said:
I am making the switch to tmobile at the end of the day today because verizon straight out is trying to over charge for stuff on the bill that shouldnt be there. No one on my account has ever used the visual voicemail paid version nor gone over usage and my fiancees line is said to be 600 dollars or more a month. Not happening. I called tmobile and talked to them for a bit, and explained to her about the bill she gave me the best deal plus with unlimited data for 70 a month. Bringing over my nexus 6. After that was all done I just randomly asked questions about locked bootloaders and root, and the lady spoken clear as day is we are not verizon or att. We support the development community (root and unlocked bootloaders), and that all devices are unlockable in that sense. Tmobile is a go to company for me. Yes some of the service is spotty but still its well worth it for having to deal with verizon since 1998. She even brought up that she is currently using an s5 with cyanogenmod. They actually allow their employees to do that stuff to their work phones as long as they know how to return to stock. Verizon you have been ok in the past but i am out.
Have a good day guys. Happy flashing
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As far as T-Mobile is concerned I hope you live in a better coverage area than I. Typically if you only stick to cities then your good but if your on the out skirts or in rural areas your screwed on signal. Even though the coverage map said to be strong network coverage where I lived it just wasn't so.
I happened to purchase this phone expecting the development to be near non existent. I was wanting to see if I could use a phone that was non-rooted and bootloader locked for a period of time as I have never done this before in all the years I have used smart phones.
good luck with T-Mobile though.. love what they are doing just hated the service coverage areas.....
bkeaver said:
As far as T-Mobile is concerned I hope you live in a better coverage area than I. Typically if you only stick to cities then your good but if your on the out skirts or in rural areas your screwed on signal. Even though the coverage map said to be strong network coverage where I lived it just wasn't so.
I happened to purchase this phone expecting the development to be near non existent. I was wanting to see if I could use a phone that was non-rooted and bootloader locked for a period of time as I have never done this before in all the years I have used smart phones.
good luck with T-Mobile though.. love what they are doing just hated the service coverage areas.....
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Don't switch trust me, I just switched from managing T-maybe to managing Verizon I switched all my lines and have never been happier with the choice. T-Mobile even in a metro area constantly drops calls.
kwyrt said:
I tried T-Mobile a couple of months ago for exactly the reasons you described. I wanted to stay with them so badly but I just couldn't deal the spotty coverage. Ended up back with Verizon. Hopefully you have better luck!
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I switched as well a few months ago and the coverage was so spotty I had to switch back. Good luck though.