Is there any actual blazing fast roms where everything your do is instant because I haven't found one yet. Most rom descriptions say they are blazing fast and have absolutely no lag and that there isn't anything better.
However my phone is not at all blazing fast. Most apps don't open instantly and start to get kicked out of memory making it impossible to multitask.
I want to know rom and kernel you people are using and what you think of the performance
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I have an HTC Touch Pro 2. Two main issues:
1) At first, yes, it was maddeningly slow about half the time. It often, and I mean alot, would stop, think a loooong time like 10 to 30 seconds, trying to decide what it wants to do, then all would be OK for awhile, then stop and think. Arrgghh.
I am currently working on speeding up my Droid install, probably always will. Start here: read this thread on speed improvement. Try each one, one at a time, and do some simple benchmarking and you will find that one or two of these will help. My droid is not maddeningly slow as often. It is even quite peppy sometimes.
2) Battery life WAS bad, I was carrying 3 batteries in my pocket with the TP2 and I would run through all of them by 7pm that day :-(
How I fixed my battery life issue.
Battery life went from 4 hours to 1.5 days with this tweak. Installed DAZZLE from the market. It is a widget, after downloading you can create as many of these DAZZLE widgets as you want on your home screen. I created 2 DAZZLE widgets. A 5x1 (that means it has 5 configurable buttons), for the buttons I selected: Mobile Network, Wireless Network, Bluetooth, GPS, and Sync. Next: turn off all 5 buttons. Turn them on only when needed. My battery lasted 1.5 days! I am finding that when at home I can leave Wireless and Synch on and it doesn't drain the battery. With all 5 of these off I can still text and make calls. Also, install a DAZZLE 1x1 widget and customize that button to control screen brightness, I set it usually to 56%. Screen set to MIN at night when reading my RSS feeds in bed (I fall asleep reading the news) OK, one more battery life tweak: I installed SetCPU. The paid version is free for all XDA members. It is pretty self explanatory how this one works. You can find the free download on this forum by searching. I set mine at first from MAX to MIN but I felt the MIN of 122,880 was too low and it was lagging when it would wake up from a dark screen, so I moved the MIN up a notch to 245,760. Now it wakes up faster from a dark screen. All 3 of these tweaks make me a happy camper now for battery life, now to get the darn thing to be lite and quick and responsive. For me that would be no more than 2 seconds from button push to when an app opens.
Try galnetmiui or cm7.
They're both really fast (scrolling on cm7 is really laggy however).
Try supercharger v6 (just google it), it conpletely fixes the ram management.
Youll never have lags caused by to low ram, but you can still multitask.
You can also try a fast launcher like launcher pro.
That will make your whole launcher experience much smoother
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The supercharger script is too confusing
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How will I know if its actually working as it should be?
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I would recommend installing a stock Samsung ROM, that is odexed (JVR or JVS). And then MAYBE apply the supercharger script, but it's really not needed. That is about as fast as this phone can get. Don't worry about benchmark scores, or the so-called "lagfixes". They fix nothing anymore.
This is only based on my own experience.
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Is there any actual blazing fast roms where everything your do is instant because I haven't found one yet. Most rom descriptions say they are blazing fast and have absolutely no lag and that there isn't anything better.
However my phone is not at all blazing fast. Most apps don't open instantly and start to get kicked out of memory making it impossible to multitask.
I want to know rom and kernel you people are using and what you think of the performance
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I agree with you. Most custom ROMS boast all sorts of modifications and tweaks and high quadrant scores, but in terms of smoothness in user interface, I see no real difference. I find that stock ROMS are the best. I also find that froyo 2.2.1 roms are better than 2.3.4 because of more free ram. So, less memory swapping occurs and apps can start faster, browsers remain minimized rather than saved-state, etc. on froyo. However, I use JVR now mainly because I find that while it lags a little, the loading of things, like installing apps, loading videos, loading app lists, is faster. But it definitely lags more than my old ZSJPK rom
Where can I find Supercharger? I cant find it on Market?
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You can find it here. It's included in some ROMs already, e.g. Simplicity.
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Try Simplicity ROM. They utilize very good and stable Semaphore kernel. Quadrant score without any over-clocking is 3000 but it doesn't matter. Lag free experience does matter though.
my friends galaxy ace is faster than my i9000 !!
I usually opt to maximise battery life, but have played around with a lot of custom roms. My votes for smoothest roms in my experience thus far would be:
Odexed JVR with GalaxianGT Kernel (1.2GHz) - I was surprised by the smoothness coming from Speedmod. I'm guessing it's primarily gained by OC'ing to 1.2GHz and using an ondemand governor rather than Speedmod's conservative one.
CM7 with Platypus kernel - CM7 is really smooth with the stock kernel as is running with an ondemand governor, but it felt a bit quicker with Platypus kernels tweaks. I'm betting the use of YAFFS2 instead of RFS is the biggest reason it's quicker than stock Samsung roms.
Smoothest launcher I've used is ADW Launcher EX. I've compared it to GO Launcher EX and Zeam and it looks and feels quicker to me. Launcher Pro is also quick, but it hasn't been updated in ages
I use SURFACE JVR with Speedmod as I've found the kernel to be one of the best with regards to battery life and the ROM removes all the bloat and Samsung apps that I don't use.
am on jvs deodexed and my phone is always lagging
I am on SH 5.1 Revenge ROM and GalaxianEE JVS, both working nice... before this I was in SH modded kernel T5s, also stable and fast, I choose GalaxianEE as the charging speed is faster compare with another...
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Hi,
I'm having my Nexus One for about two weeks now and I already started a thread about the choppy scrolling between homescreens but now I want to know if there are other people that find their Nexus One slow and if they were able to make it faster in any way.
When I bought this phone I thought android would 'fly' on it cause I already had a HTC Magic and that went reasonably fast. But everything I'm using on my Nexus One feels choppy and not fluent as I expected/want it to be. For example when you start the browser or any other program you get this zoom animation which is nice but it doesn't go fluent, it goes choppy like you would play a videogame with 5 FPS.
And as I already mentioned the same counts for the launcher, it's just not fluent and doesn't feel fast at all.
I've tested different rom's, froyo, etc. but nothing seems to make it right so now I'm wondering if there are people that have the same issue's? Is it normal that the Nexus One isn't super fast to use or is there something wrong with my phone and should I return it?
i think something is wrong. especially with froyo the phone is ultra-fast.
Try Linpack and some other benchmarks and post the results.
Or try osmonitor for example and see what the cpu speed does, perhaps it is stuck @ 245 mhz for some reason lol
Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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the kernel is actually the primary factor when it comes to speed. how the kernel manages actions on the phone is the deciding factor on what makes it run fast. you can have a very fast phone hardwarewise, but if the kernel is designed poorly, the phone will run slow as well. Using a kernel that does not have highmem enabled means your probably running an older kernel that does not have updates for speed. the latest froyo kernel has highmem and JIT enabled for faster application use as well as over smoother feel.
i love the animations as well
im coming from the G1 and i havent had any of the of the problems you seem to be having. you are flashing the roms correctly (unless there are additional things such as google apps you need, idk whats the procedure on that for the nexus) Im running fully stock with froyo FRF72.
I would imagine that Desire would be SLOWER than stock android not faster. However the animations may be better optimized. I only used sense on the G1 and it was slow as heck on there (i would have used it all the time otherwise) The main reason that things look so choppy is because rendering is not handled by the GPU, rather the CPU. This puts more strain on the CPU than should be necessary.
I don't get why they OC the CPU either. Seriously, 1gHz is fast for a PHONE. I can understand why when the phone starts getting dated why you would....but its not gonna be dated till at least Q4 2010 when the 1.2-2gHz snapdragons are coming out.
Qualcomm will have a 1.5gHz ready for new phones this year. DUAL-CORE
http://gizmodo.com/5443976/qualcomm...dragon-smartphones-are-about-to-go-hyperspeed
As for the problem. Sounds weird. Try LauncherPro for a test. That is smooth launcher that flows like butter. If that is choppy then there is something seriously fu-bar going on with yer phone
I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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so is your nexus smooth and fluid now? because mine is very smooth swiping the homescreens. using launcher pro. no choppiness at all.
Stock launchers to me are kinda choppy too. And that was my only complain with the nexus. Like the previous posters advised, try launcher pro and adwlauncher, tweak the settings to your liking and you'll see the difference. As far as kernel for froyo try pershoots kernel, it seems to be very smooth and speedy.
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I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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400 is normal. FRF72 seems to help battery life greatly for me. browser seems more stable and google apps have been updated (alarm and calendar)
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Minor suggestion - install ADW.Launcher (you'll have to tweak the settings a bit to make it nice) or Launcher Pro (works great as is) with your Froyo ROM. You'll thank me for it. The stock launcher scrolling is choppy - always has been, never was really fixed in Froyo (at least as of FRF50 - I haven't even bothered trying it with FRF72).
Hey all
Longtime lurker (i think i have some very old posts in here).
I acquired a galaxy and so far im pretty satisfied. But still only so-so. My wife has the iPhone4, which is also a great phone, and what i envy most about it, is the super fluid, instant response you get while working around the UI. Scrolling, opening programs... everything is incredibly smoot. Not so much on the Galaxy.
I tried doing the lagfix and rooting it also. It helped nicely with the loading times of programs, but the UI still isnt as smooth as the iPhones. And this is something i dont get. The galaxy is one of the most powerfull handsets out there, but still cant reach the lvl of smoothness as you get on an iPhone.
I ran Quadrant after appyling root/lagfix and scored a 2200+. Thats a pretty great score. But still doesnt feel as snappy and responsive as i find it should.
Ok well, what i want to know... is there anything out there that could help improve the UI responsiveness? Another ROM? Another Kernel? Or is this something that is just inherent with Android and/or Samsung, in a way that i will never have that?
First of all, ignore Quadrant. If you rooted and did a lagfix on the stock firmware, then you likely used OCLF. Ext2 from OCLF inflates Quadrant scores due to the looping method it uses. The only real way to judge your phone's speed is out it feels to you, and if it feels sluggish then you have work to do, regardless of the Q score.
I would definitely recommend flashing a new kernel. You should start with Speedmod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822756), just because Hardcore's instructions for flashing the first time with Odin are very clear and complete. Follow them exactly and you should be good and then you can use a program like SGS Kernel Flasher to try other options easily (just remember to undo lagfixes and tweaks in between flashes).
Personally I have used Speedmod, Super Optimized and Ultimate Kernel and they are all fast with good performance. For me the best has been Ultimate (with all Ext2 lagfix) but each person and phone are different, so play around with different choices. If you wish to go all out, you can read up here about flashing the Mod as well.
I was also quite dismayed and surprised by the performance of my Galaxy out of the box, but now with a smoking kernel and lagfix in place, it is easily as smooth as iOS.
Good luck, and enjoy.
i think the most important thing is first flash one of the new firmware 2.2.1 like JS7 then it will run already smooth, if thats not enough then you still can flash a newer kernel hardcore or voodoo kernel and lagfix it.
Thanks, lagfix?
Thanks guys.
Ok i will stop using Quadrant as a benchmark for my UI experience.
Ok, flashing a new kernel. Great with some oppinions too. What are the Go-to kernels right now? Those 3 you mentioned?
And regarding lagfix, i though lagfix was almost always a part of a customer kernel? And if not, which lagfix should i use?
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Thanks guys.
Ok i will stop using Quadrant as a benchmark for my UI experience.
Ok, flashing a new kernel. Great with some oppinions too. What are the Go-to kernels right now? Those 3 you mentioned?
And regarding lagfix, i though lagfix was almost always a part of a customer kernel? And if not, which lagfix should i use?
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I suggest starting with Speedmod just for Hardcore's great instructions. However, if you are not satisfied or wish to try other options Speedmod can just be your entry drug. Once you have flashed once, you can install Clockwork Mod recovery and SGS Kernel Flasher and really go to town. There are lots of great kernels down in the Android Development thread, I just listed the three I myself have tried. Read up on them, and try the ones that have the features you are looking for.
As for which lagfix, again that is a matter of personal preference. Some say Ext4 is safer, some say Ext2 is faster, some are jfs fans, some say even stranger things. Each kernel has a different approach, as well. Again, take solid backups with SGS Kernel Flasher or ROM Manager and try each method for yourself. Just remember, be home when the clock strikes midnight, and undo all lagfixes and tweaks before flashing each time (and remember, if you used OCLF to do your current lagfix, you need to go back into that app and undo all it's changes before flashing Speedmod, or BAD things will happen).
Let's not forget about basic things, like wiping the phone?
I was actually looking for exactly the same things, and I was changing kernels, roms, themes, etc. etc. while I realised it's not just that.
Go one step further, and what I found is that under Zeam launcher everything seems snappier(the kleine crocodile), than before.
I also disposed all theme, and extra stuff, that made the rom "heavier".
I cooked my own ROM in doc's kitchen, and indeed used hardcore's kernel with ext4 lagfix.
Not only the phone is pretty close to the iphone responsiveness, but the battery life is also great!
2200+ Quadrant scores?
I've got around 1100 on Darky's Rom 9.3 and the responsiveness is amazing!
im using newest rom from doc's kitchen with supercurios kernel.
i used zeam launcher before which didn't feel snappy, i'm now using Launcher Pro which just feels alot snappier.
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2200+ Quadrant scores?
I've got around 1100 on Darky's Rom 9.3 and the responsiveness is amazing!
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forget the scores, yours with just 1100 could be faster than one with 2200 in daily use.
A friend of me has a iphone4 and I also think that the iphone4 is just smoother than the galaxy s.
I'm on darky 9.3 with voodoo lagfix (which is included in the rom) but still I have laggs on screen. My sister just bought a htc incredible S and its also very smooth but again not as smooth as the iphone4. I just personaly think that apple has made there a good job...but there is alot what I don't like at the iphone4.
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I agree. I've tried many new custom roms and lagfixes, and although they help, they still don't seem to make the phone reliably and constantly smooth. I occasionally still have some UI lag or freezing. I praise 2.2.1 for making the phone feel as smooth with RFS as it does on EXT4 though, and now I usually don't bother "lagfixing" the phone
I use TouchWiz, so I think inherent bugs in the UI are at least partially to blame. I noticed using a 3rd party launcher generally felt a bit smoother than TW, even though I like the TW layout. I'm going to reformat the phone and load JS8 with Speedmod and am leaning towards using the latest GO Launcher as my default to see if there's any noticeable long term improvement in smoothness
really everyone is going lag fix lag fix hardware way? seriously the TW launcher is the problem , its NATURALLY LAGGY , imo get Laucher pro you want silky smooth get launcher pro and set it as default home sure as hell looks better and is more fluid than any other loader out there , not one NOT ONE little hiccup ever just soo silky smooth , never even a slight tiny tiny not even micro second lag , app planet > launcher pro > facebook widget > messages widget > normal background not live > 3-5 pages = win
But I like the look of the twlauncher more. Somehow I just dislike the look of the launcher pro
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But I like the look of the twlauncher more. Somehow I just dislike the look of the launcher pro
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Try go launcher instead.
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.2 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1200MHZ**
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Try go launcher instead.
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.2 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1200MHZ**
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Wow. Seems to be much smoother then the twlauncher. I'll try it a few days.
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Wow. Seems to be much smoother then the twlauncher. I'll try it a few days.
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Yes it is.
I have tried them all but I always come back to go launcher.
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.2 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1200MHZ**
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Yes it is.
I have tried them all but I always come back to go launcher.
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.2 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1200MHZ**
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Well now after a day I have to say, this is the best launcher so far (go launcher). I haven't ever experienced such smoothness on my Galaxy S. So for everyone whos haveing trouble with lagg on screen, try the go launcher. It is even verx nice customisable
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i'm using sm k13a. it gives me very good battery life, better than k13c.
So, ICS has been out for a while and people are getting it working on our phone quite well. Taking into consideration that most ICS ROMs aren't polished yet and most still have a few bugs to sort out, are you happy with it?
I'm not talking about what the devs here did to get it working on our phone (They are a bunch of little magicians, eh?), but what Google did creating it. I have tried a couple of ICS ROMs but I couldn't get it working properly on my SGS and went back to a stock Gingerbread ROM, so I am still not that aware of most of what ICS can do.
ICS is a big departure from Gingerbread and takes a bit of investigating to find where everything is, but that's part of the fun.
What would you change in ICS and what do you really like that wasn't there before, or has been improved?
I really like the Data Usage meter. It's a great tool for those who are always watching their monthly limits.
Ian
I enjoyed using ICS a lot, everything about it, from the look and feel of it to the smoothness and speed of the OS.
The only reason im back on GB is because of problems in the battery department, no matter what kernel I used, I had problems with the battery life.
Ill be definately making the switch once the roms mature more.
During last week I tried few ICS roms and finally I came back to GB JVU - SAUROM.
Last night i tested ICS CNA 1.4.0. It works quite well witch glitch kernel, but from my poiont of view it still not the same preformance what is in GB. I had some lags in app drawer. Settings menu was slow (with semaphore 0.8.1 very slow).
I overclocked to 1300 and it's improved performance but in AnTutu I reached 3008. In comparision to JVU Saurom it is over 400 less (in Saurom with Semaphore 2.5.0 my AnTutu results is 3480).
I like plays last "hi-end" games. I tried Modern Combat 2 under SAUROM and under CNA 1.4.0 (both overclocked to 1300Mhz) and under SAUROM JVU playing it's definitively better.
I'dont know what to do. I like ICS style, but I look for fast and stable system.
I'll join the question: how do you feel wit ics for SGS? and kind of ICS customs do you recommend for me?
Too bad we can't get the best Devs here to develop one version of ICS together. With all that firepower it should be no time before ICS ran perfect on the SGS.
I still don't understand why Samsung said they couldn't do ICS for the SGS when the Devs here can.
Ian
ics is smooth and a real eyecandy but actually i cant find a real lifechanging feature in it. was quite happy with 2.2, had unstable episode of stock kies 2.6 and endedup in aokp 2.1
ics works but im experiencing crazy bat drains from mediaserver and music playback on ics costs A LOT of battery
i guess i will flash 2.2 some day
Hello
I like the Slim version of ICS. I am currently using Slim 2.5 with the Semaphore_ICS_0.9.0 kernel.
With the CPU frequency set to 1100 (which is what I normally run) I get 3324* on the AnTuTu benchmark.
* 3335 + 3313= 3324 (average)
Note : One needs to be careful comparing AnTuTu scores using Semaphore_ICS_0.9.0 kernel. By this I mean that it is not necessarily a straight apples to apples comparison due to all the different kernel settings which are possible.
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I also use Slim with Semaphore kernel 0.9.0 and it has been an delight. ICS is so good that i would sell my phone if i had to go back to gb again Much of the bugs have been fixed by now, and really this custom roms are very stable. Onecosmio SGICS rc4.2 is also very good and polished. You could start with that one, also has great battery life in comparison with others.
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I think its a bit laggy
but i might need another kernel? I don't know.
It looks good and there are a lot more options but i don't like the stock internet browser the one on gingerbread is great. Does exactly what i need it to and when you press the more button everything is in the right place.
Semaphore ICS 0.9.0 unable to get network
Flashed my T-mobile Samsung Galaxy S (I9000 using on wind mobile) to Semaphore ICS 0.9.0 and unable to get on wind network...have tried practically almost a lot of things including flashing other ICS roms, used the radios suggested in the forums but am unable to get it to work. Can someone suggest me the correct modem file to be flashed?
I'm loving ICS I'm using TeamICSSGS rom runs perfectly I find everything to work well and I've ended up getting between 2-3days on battery depending on how I use it.
I have no clue what Samsung was every on about saying the Galaxy S will never get ICS well whats running pretty good on my Galaxy S then
I think it works great. I love the way ICS looks and feel and also the fact that my SGS its a bit different from most sgs's out there.
battery is still problematic but since being a heavy user I carry a charger where ever I go anyway.
bottom line... Love it
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Few posts ago I wrote that I came back to GB. I was not happy with ICS becouse of many resons, but now I have to change my mind - RC4.2 runs great. I have one small issue with Gmail app (does not work) but I think that something could be wrong during installation becouse other users don't report this error. I have to reflash RC4.2 and test it again.
I like ics very much. The design, speed...but i hate is battery drain. When i had 2.3.6 I could be on phone 12 hours straight till 0% (massive gaming over 3g or wifi) it was great. But with ics max i get is 4 hours non stop...thats sad...I tryed everything from millions of battery apps to kernels to voltage and dont remember how many guides on utube/xda/android forums about it...
When that will be fixed im back to it, till than Ill be on stable 2.3.6 gaming
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I like ics very much. The design, speed...but i hate is battery drain. When i had 2.3.6 I could be on phone 12 hours straight till 0% (massive gaming over 3g or wifi) it was great. But with ics max i get is 4 hours non stop...thats sad...I tryed everything from millions of battery apps to kernels to voltage and dont remember how many guides on utube/xda/android forums about it...
When that will be fixed im back to it, till than Ill be on stable 2.3.6 gaming
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You have an unusual phone .... or battery. Since I bought my SGS I have to charge it every night. My best achievement was 24 hours (becouse I fell asleep and forgot to connect charger)
Ics feedback
from my exp dark knight 2.1 (4.0.4) is best more stable giving maximum battery life...ics is userfriendly,more smooth and more stable...
the only problem is battery life but it will not effects me more bcz i only use internet for mails and sometimes music plus it gives me 24 hour battery back up(gps off,wifi usage moderate,data plan always on)
I only have a few gripes about ICS (THICSSGS 4.0.3)
- The dialer is not idiot proof enough for me, I keep making unwanted calls.
- For some reason my photos keep showing up in duplicate or triplicate. Kind of pain since I use the camera for work and when I delete the duplicates they appear again the next day.
- Sound volume is to quite overall.
- Can't make an appointment in calendar without an Gmail or similar account to sync to.
- Did I mention the SOUND IS TOO QUITE?
Other than these few things the move to ICS has been a good one. Last week I got nearly 4 days on a single charge but its averaging out to 2 days now. With GB 2 days was pushing it.
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question to heavy-music-users:
1. do you experience high cpu usage on mediaserver?
2. any issues with screen off wifi connection used by interney radios or shoutcast? in my case winamp pauses every 20-30 seconds
Comparing ICS to Gingerbread, ICS wins in every single aspect for me, except for the ability of Samsung roms to play a wide range of media formats. ICS is faster, more ram-efficient, looks better and runs games more smoothly than Gingerbread.
However, I was previously on Froyo 2.2.1 ZSJPK before using ICS, because I preferred Froyo to Gingerbread. So, comparing ICS to Froyo, there are several things that ICS loses out to Froyo. To name a few, Froyo has way more free ram, hence better multitasking. On Froyo, I can have the browser running a desktop version of facebook as well as NOVA 2 running in the background, without either being closed. But on ICS, it's hard to even run Angry Birds and Contacts at the same time due to the fact that on average, there is only about 60Mb of free space.
Hence, ICS wins in all ways except multitasking, but that is due to the Galaxy S' limitations, not the actual ICS itself.
i had all time the Goa Rom on my SGS i9000 and now two weeks the ICS open kang Projekt and i was happy i find it is so much better we gingerbread the speed is very well
the apks open so fast it works very good for me
greetz nobody
Been using ics since Dec. Very happy with it and won't go back to gingerbread.
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Hey there people!
Ok so the HTC Desire C seems to be a non supported device on here there are currently no ROMs for it and even the root/ulbl is not fully tested so devs with HTC experience get here to give this device what it needs!
Anyways the device runs on a 600Mhz processor running a long side 512MB RAM supporting Android 4.0.3 ICS, due to the specs the device can be a little sluggish under high operation situations so here are a few basic tips to help.
Install Zeam Launcher.
A small size launcher that is lightning fast, only thing that rivals it is the FTL launcher and looks like sense 4 launcher.
The launcher size is 338k (Google play size) very fast and minimal looking.
FTL follows the trend but size varies on ur device
Bit-Defender.
This is a tiny anti-malware suite, for full features needs payment, but for free it gives nice protection. and i use the desktop versions so yeah
if you prefer the finding ur device more so i suggest lookout due to free scream/locate and no it does not drain battery life!
Juice Defender.
I listen to music a lot when am out, my old X10 did well with an extended battery and Juice defender installed, so i say add it into the desire C, it actually saves battery and manages ur mobile data/wifi automatically.
(After root)
Install Titanium Backup.
This app is a god send, it can remove files embedded into the /system/app folder, so u can remove crappy HTC Sense launcher, also remove other bloatware and rubbish do be careful tho Rooting does void warrenty and removing apps can stop the device from working (WE NEED A RECOVERY!!)
Sysctl Config
I use this on my X10 for gaming, it provides a bit of a boost to performance not much but its there
(you must have busy box to run this, recommended to have latest superuser installed from Google play)
a scripting program - edit scripts (Advanced users/devs only)
This is what makes roms so dam fast over stock, devs have edited the files to increase VM Heaps and other stuff, if your a noob or no scripting skills dont attempt it wait for a pro to do it for you!
Try overclocking. (Advanced Users/Devs)
I dont know much about HTC kernels im a DoomKernel user for the X10, but he got the kernel another 200Mhz on a single core!
Idk if HTC have left any overclock on the kernel and i dont wanna damage my phone testing it as i got it 3 days ago, so feedback please!
Overclocking is one of the most obvious choices for speed, at the cost of battery life you can put the CPU past its standard levels, speeding up your device.
Personally i dont overclock past what doom set my kernel, if you wish to do it personally use NoFrills CPU (Free) or SetCPU (Paid) both need Root
Ok rant over! most of this stuff may not be yet possible on the device but i hope it does, its a nice little device cheap and cheerful! devs come and unlock the potential it has forget One X n S3 they got there stuff
Disclaimer
I Will Not Be Held Responsible For Any Damages In Any Area Or Spec Of Your Device(s) You Do It Your Fault No One Elses! Nor Mine Or The Devs.
Apps shown in description....
Zeam Launcher (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.zeam&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
FTL Launcher Lite (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5sb3d2ZWxkLmZ0bGxhdW5jaGVybGl0ZSJd
Bit Defender Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5iaXRkZWZlbmRlci5zZWN1cml0eSJd
Lookout Security - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5sb29rb3V0Il0.
Juice Defender Free - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5sYXRlZHJvaWQuanVpY2VkZWZlbmRlciJd
Titanium Backup (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5rZXJhbWlkYXMuVGl0YW5pdW1CYWNrdXAiXQ..
Sysctl Config (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkuc3lzY3RsLmNvbmZpZyJd
Super User (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ub3NodWZvdS5hbmRyb2lkLnN1Il0.
NoFrills CPU (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsIml0LnNpbmVvLmFuZHJvaWQubm9GcmlsbHNDUFUiXQ..
SetCPU - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5taHVhbmcub3ZlcmNsb2NraW5nIl0.
BusyBox Installer (Free, May not work on device can cause root loss RESEARCH BEFORE TRYING) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkuYnVzeWJveC5pbnN0YWxsZXIiXQ..
Have fun people laters.
Only helpful feedback and friendly comments no fighting on here!!
using the zeam laucher good , no lag jellybean laucher do you have ?
Speed
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
szilike93 said:
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
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Nope Nope Nope ^__^, basically its no good as the Kernal is stock and doesnt permit overclocking.
You should really rename this thread... it has nothing to do with optimizing or speeding up the OS. It just tells you about a bunch of software you could search for on the market, and then says, "oh ya, and overclock."
Performance problem??
Peep my signature..
Deactivating apps which are not really needed also increases the speed, because more resources are available.
I tried that in combination with the overclock kernel and that sped up my phone especially when using apps which needs much ram and cpu-performance.
Duke_Suppenhuhn said:
Deactivating apps which are not really needed also increases the speed, because more resources are available.
I tried that in combination with the overclock kernel and that sped up my phone especially when using apps which needs much ram and cpu-performance.
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Removing the sense interface is also speeding up the performance.
Gamephantom said:
Removing the sense interface is also speeding up the performance.
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no ****, sherlock
And back we are
Lets get a few things updated shall we
_Ayhan_
Apex is a good launcher, bit bigger than Zeam but it works perfectly for me, no lag at all and supports themes!
szilike93 Nameless new ROMs have OC ability, with the correct kernels, as said in my 1st post, i would OC, i used OC on a different ROM and played games, didnt last long under bloon tower defense 5. ive just downloaded a new kernel pack from the dev of Nameless, selected a slight OC, but i shall be still setting max OC to 600Mhz but i will be changing the Governor to InteractiveX and I/O to deadline (Going on what worked best for DoomKernel)
Gamephantom
Yeah removing sense UI would be better off for the phone, but as far even the new "De-Sense" options still have baseline sense installed, until Cyanogenmod works fully we have to stick with it, although the devs have made the device smoother with sense, Cyanogenmod should take the crown
So any updates from me?
Well OC kernels are out and working can try them if you wish, New roms are around which are fast, no new "Super" apps to speak of, just a shame its only a single core 600Mhz, there are some apps im testing and shall report back, such as the Jellybean drivers, see if that wacks my battery using GPU rendering, hopefully not, all testing on Nameless 7.2 with 722Mhz Kernel but will be UC to 600Mhz. Hopefully battery life dont suck, Slimsense still best battery life personally for me
Later Guys!
You want to get a good battery life, just push a stock systemui that don't have battery percentage numbers. Images in stock only have 4-5 batt images, while in percentage it gives accurate %1 reading 100 batt images.
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szilike93 said:
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
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You should do as Xdroidie626 sais.
Download Nameles's ROM and enclosed within You will find 3 kernels. Choose from 2 that allow You to OC Your CPU and flash it.
I'm using the 806MHz Kernel and apart from the obvious,battery life dicreased,can't complain about it at all.
HTC should have released Desire C 806MHz capable in the first place.
Lucky noobs we are to have XDA website and Devs themselves to provide us with tools of salvation from "stock" misery
Btw... Little off-top...
@Einstein.frat
As I mentioned above I'm using Nameless ROM and hereby wish to thank Einstein.frat for his efforts and subsequent effects.
Since I'm a freshman here and my posts are still counted using only one hand I can't avail of the "Thanks" button yet but I will as soon as possible. It may take me a while but I don't post just to bump the counter...
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Go to Android Development Section and you will find your answer hopefully..
even I would like to know. seems both are very good.
if noone answers do a comparison and include battery life, performance etc.
Speedmod is original
hl note core is adapted speedmod so use same versions of speedmod when doing so
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I've used both, and prefer glnotecore (have beenn off speedmod about 3 wks). On my note, it is smoother, more stable, and faster. I also get great batt life for this level of performance. Of course, we're finding that there are some fairly significant variances note-to-note, so you really need to test both on your phone to know what works best for you, but I can attest to notecore's overall performance. Fwiw, I'm using same dev's latest rom (cleannote) along with latest kernel (6.1, which is not speedmod-based). If you're using a rom with lots of scripts and tweaks, then notecore isn't for you as it is optimized without such items (read thread to learn more about why). It may also not be for you if you're looking for lots of mods... dev is focused on performance and stability without trendy bells and whistles. Hope this is helpful to you.
Think of them like this:
SpeedMod = original Samsung Kernel but "safe"
NOTECORE = customized Samsung Kernel and "safe"
If you're going to use the Stock TouchWizz ROM with minimal changes, go for SpeedMod, it should be more stable.
If you want to customize your NOTE with a TouchWizz-based ROM, go for Notecore, you can underclock the min frequency (save battery), then overclock max freq (faster), then undervolt it slightly (save even more battery). Then use a more effecient governor like InteractiveX or Ondemand (save battery without losing performance). Then you can overclock the gpu, and get smooth performance with the ChainFire3D plugin.
Then again, if you really want ultimate customization... you'll need AOSP ROM + Kernel.
Examples:
A) SpeedMod K3-9 + (Samsung) LRG ROM = Samsung Experience
B) NOTECORE + m3dd0g's LiquidSmooth v3.0 = Custom Experience
C) ANiKernel + AOKP build 41 (milestone 6) = Deep Custom Experience
I'd say it depends on how you use your device,
If your not addicted to flashing & you want a stable smooth phone with minimum issues, use SpeedMod
However, if you like to tinker & don't mind a few bugs go with notecore.
At the moment notecore is hit & miss, a new version (sometimes 2) everyday tells you its not there YET.
I started with v1 through to v5, whilst at its best notecore is the fastest kernel for our note, for me there was always the occasional freeze that didn't happen with SpeedMod or funky, or even with earlier versions of the same kernel.
PS. This is not a criticism of the dev, I donated to him for his work on the kernel & a few years ago for his superb windows mobile (cleanex) roms
I feel the need to mention this to avoid any potential flame wars igniting as some folks get a little 'Apple' when you speak objectively.
Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
kam333 said:
I'd say it depends on how you use your device,
If your not addicted to flashing & you want a stable smooth phone with minimum issues, use SpeedMod
However, if you like to tinker & don't mind a few bugs go with notecore.
At the moment notecore is hit & miss, a new version (sometimes 2) everyday tells you its not there YET.
I started with v1 through to v5, whilst at its best notecore is the fastest kernel for our note, for me there was always the occasional freeze that didn't happen with SpeedMod or funky, or even with earlier versions of the same kernel.
PS. This is not a criticism of the dev, I donated to him for his work on the kernel & a few years ago for his superb windows mobile (cleanex) roms
I feel the need to mention this to avoid any potential flame wars igniting as some folks get a little 'Apple' when you speak objectively.
Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
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Agree with that.
NoteCore is all speed. SpeedMod is stable, smooth and reliable.
I had corrupt sd-card on NoteCore, don't remember which version but I never tried it again. Things have gotten better and I might give V7 a try.
As for people getting apples - welcome to Internet there are E-Rambo-Hulks everywhere.:silly:
Boy124 said:
Agree with that.
NoteCore is all speed. SpeedMod is stable, smooth and reliable.
I had corrupt sd-card on NoteCore, don't remember which version but I never tried it again. Things have gotten better and I might give V7 a try.
As for people getting apples - welcome to Internet there are E-Rambo-Hulks everywhere.:silly:
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Haha, E-Rambo-Hulks, not heard that 1 before.
Also had issues with the sd card unmounting & apps uninstalled on reboot.
Just tried v7 so far the freezing has gone, especially with dead trigger.
will give it a few hours/days.
Edit: freezing still happening, back to speedmod.
ive never had an issue with either kernel but for me notecore out performs speedmod hands down.
There are 2 versions of notecore, Standard and extreme, Extreme does not work for everyone (strange but true) But it works for me
No issues, No FC's, No lags, No battery drain.
I play dead trigger A LOT and i have the tegra 3 graphics enabled and it is buttery smooth. Awesome game if i must say so.
But the only way to know which one is right for you is to try them both and heavily test them
What works for one person doesnt mean it will work for another.
notecore kernel are AWESONE.....
azzledazzle said:
ive never had an issue with either kernel but for me notecore out performs speedmod hands down.
There are 2 versions of notecore, Standard and extreme, Extreme does not work for everyone (strange but true) But it works for me
No issues, No FC's, No lags, No battery drain.
I play dead trigger A LOT and i have the tegra 3 graphics enabled and it is buttery smooth. Awesome game if i must say so.
But the only way to know which one is right for you is to try them both and heavily test them
What works for one person doesnt mean it will work for another.
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Completely agree with you. Anyone that feels speedmod is just as smooth but more stable must not use their phones for gaming or other CPU intensive apps because the difference is HUGE if you are comparing the OCed version with the regular speedmod.
Of course, it all depends on what the person needs it for and nothing beats testing for yourself since it takes little time to flash back and forth.
Regards
kam333 said:
Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
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shaolin95 said:
Anyone that feels speedmod is just as smooth but more stable must not use their phones for gaming or other CPU intensive apps because the difference is HUGE
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i said it was just as smooth & more reliable, i gave my opinion based on my experience,
please accept my apologies if english isnt your 1st language so you dont understand what you're typing, but for you to assume how another person uses their phone based on your experience, makes no sense.
notecore is fast, no question, but for me, with fifa12, dead trigger, nova3, gt racing... all play just as smooth with both kernels, where i notice the speed difference is on things like launcher transitions or opening solid explorer NC is a fraction quicker, not Huge, we're talking milliseconds quicker.
again, genuine apologies if your comment has been misinterpreted but the point still stands... your experience will be different to others (vice-versa).
In my personal experience I find both of them good in their own ways. Note core is a full performance kernel while speedmod Is a balanced kernel. I keep coming back to Note core because of it's brilliant performance, thanks to Gavin .
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kam333 said:
i said it was just as smooth & more reliable, i gave my opinion based on my experience,
please accept my apologies if english isnt your 1st language so you dont understand what you're typing, but for you to assume how another person uses their phone based on your experience, makes no sense.
notecore is fast, no question, but for me, with fifa12, dead trigger, nova3, gt racing... all play just as smooth with both kernels, where i notice the speed difference is on things like launcher transitions or opening solid explorer NC is a fraction quicker, not Huge, we're talking milliseconds quicker.
again, genuine apologies if your comment has been misinterpreted but the point still stands... your experience will be different to others (vice-versa).
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Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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shaolin95 said:
Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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Theoretically you are right.
In practice, you may not be.
SpeedMod = stability oriented.
NOTECORE= speed oriented.
AOSP kernel = speed and feature oriented.
Nova 3 could run fullspeed on Stock Samsung, SpeedMod, Notecore and AOSP. Or Nova 3 running fullspeed only on AOSP. Or only on Notecore and AOSP.
Obviously, it depends on how good the device (they're not created equal) and rom is, as well as the user (different apps installed, different forms of usage).
The only way to decide is to test them personally and see what works for you.
I'm using and testing also both, and all versions...... If you compare it with cars, or car builder, then Hardcore is more the "settled" one, like Mercedes, that is a kernel, that is solid, stable and do what it should do..... Speedmod is good, if you want to have a kernel with good performance, but you don't want to Overclock or something...... And I think, here speedmod is very good....... For Users, they don't want to screw on setups, just having a kernel, that is installed and good!
Gavin is more like a tuning builder, like amg that takes the Mercedes and try to get out more performance on every little part of the engine....... But also get stable enough to win the 24hours race in LeMans
My favourite is Notecore, cause I'm also a screwing fan...... To get as much performance as can out of my note, and here is Notecore definitely on Pole Position....... Since V4 performance is so good, that I get the first time really satisfied......... All runs very fast, apps open like rockets..... Game performance is awesome (gaming Dead Trigger with full effects and tegra effects also triggered on, runs smooth as butter), and also on heavy apps like Photoshop touch, there is enough power to render effects on high resolution pics from Cameras like the CV-5 with 4096x2048 px in png nearly uncompressed......
But Notecore is a performance Kernel, if you are a bit sensible, and you get a heart attack, if your phone gets a little bit warm.... Than better use a kernel that is a bit more conservative.....
Greetz
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shaolin95 said:
Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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@ Kangal
Nice summary,
@shaolin95
Really not fussed enough to flash both kernels make a video just to prove a point (I'm yawning at the thought), I have no reason to lie about the smoothness, simply want what most people want, great performance with stability, still it's just a phone, I don't fret about getting 5 more fps.
If you're getting that with NC then I'm happy for you. I'm not, but I'll say again, it's only a matter of time before the dev gets it spot on. Until then speedmod works great for me.
All the best.
From classic rom. Has tried note std v7 for 3 days. Very smooth and battery drain performance was superb as well. But having same issue with other user. UI sometimes will hang for few second without any respond. But still able to pull down notification bar.
Tried speedmod k3-9 yesterday till now, stable, battery performance not bad at all, smooth and no single hang.
Battery performance is very subjective things, u must try it and compare by your self.
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