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I really don't get why so many review sites are writing off the nexus 4 as some terrible device stating its "outdated" because it has no lte. Honestly I think lte is ahead of its time. It's useless without unlimited data, and personally I came from an lte phone and can't even tell a difference other than speed test results.
If it was just 3G I could understand more but hspa+ is more than capable on at&t and t-mobile.
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I think a big reason for the complaints from review sites is because many of them live and work in heavily populated areas. The hspa networks there are congested and speeds are dramatically slower than some of the smaller markets.
I live in a Minneapolis suburb and I get 20 Mbps down and 4 Mbps up on T-Mobile. Plenty fast for me. My fiancé is still on Verizon with a galaxy nexus and she doesn't even get LTE at our house.
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Yeah not having lte on a Verizon phone is definitely a bigger deal because cdma is incapable of hspa+ speeds and 3G is about half the speed of gsm networks. I live in Greenwood, a suburb of Indianapolis, and I get pretty good hspa +speeds, usual between 3 to 12mbps, AT&T. Sure it's a far cry from the 30 to 50 I got on lte, but really can't tell a difference
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Yeah not having lte on a Verizon phone is definitely a bigger deal because cdma is incapable of hspa+ speeds and 3G is about half the speed of gsm networks. I live in Greenwood, a suburb of Indianapolis, and I get pretty good hspa +speeds, usual between 3 to 12mbps, AT&T. Sure it's a far cry from the 30 to 50 I got on lte, but really can't tell a difference
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I live downtown in Indy, do you by chance know if ATT or TMO is faster around Indy?
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I live downtown in Indy, do you by chance know if ATT or TMO is faster around Indy?
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Not sure but I think at&t has better reception around here. However you can't beat the price on Tmobile, you actually get a discount for owning your own phone. I though about trying out T mobile but I makes me a bit concerned when I compare coverage maps and areas that are on 2G only for AT&T show no coverage on T mobile!
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I live in a suburb outside of Chicago. I had vzw and my LTE speeds where the same as T-Mobile HSPA+.. Cant really tell a difference
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Not sure but I think at&t has better reception around here. However you can't beat the price on Tmobile, you actually get a discount for owning your own phone. I though about trying out T mobile but I makes me a bit concerned when I compare coverage maps and areas that are on 2G only for AT&T show no coverage on T mobile!
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Yeah, I know what you mean.
I am getting ready to switch from Sprint which according some sites I have checked and speaking with friends that have T Moblie, I should have the same if not better coverage.
Well the nice thing about an unlocked phone is you can get prepaid sims and try before you device on one with prepaid sims. I though about grabbing a prepaid Tmobile sim and trying it for a month, though I'm under contract for my stupid HTC vivid until March of 2014 anyway, ugh...
Thank god for unlocked nexus devices, now I can get a nice phone at a reason price without committing to AT&T for 2 more years every time!
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I am never going to disable LTE on my Nexus 4. It is a big deal, once you experience it you will never go back!
Switched from the iPhone 5 and I haven't noticed any speed decrease for my use.
Nexus 4 doesn't have lte..? Could've fooled me! =]
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Today T-Mobile announced LTE official launch in Vegas is due within two to three weeks. That means the network is definitely live and being finely tuned! Up until now only T-Mobile engineers had access to LTE network, but since it's weeks away it could be live for us consumers!
All of you in Las Vegas area with Nexus 4 should be downloading PhoneInfo app from PlayStore and forcing LTE/WCDMA/GSM on your devices as most likely T-Mobile LTE will be popping up within days if it isn't already!!!
Please report here! :laugh:
Forget las Vegas when is NY getting it?
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Although I'd love to see NYC live asap, I don't think it'll be included in the very first LTE launch markets.
Vegas was the very first 1900Mhz HSPA+21 market last summer, and NYC was just officially launched a few weeks ago.
Well when it makes its way to NY I'll be sure to try it out
They said 100 million to 200 million people would be getting it by mid-year. I'm assuming Band 4 LTE is the flavor that the Nexus 4 likes?
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They said 100 million to 200 million people would be getting it by mid-year.
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Just to be clear, T-mobile is fudging these numbers. By 100 to 200 million, they mean possible customers. They aren't actually talking about 100-200 million actual customers having access to LTE.
No kidding. If they had 200 million customers they would be the number one carrier in the US.
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They're covering the markets loaded with potential subscribers. Also, when they officially launch a market, they don't claim that every cell site is upgraded either so YMMV.
I'm in Vegas now and will be running speed test none stop
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I'm in Vegas now and will be running speed test none stop
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Just use PhoneInfo.apk and change your network preference to LTE/WCDMA/GSM or LTE only while you're testing. If you see "4G" indicator, you're in! Then start speed testing lol
When I run lte only I get nothing. Now will I see a 4g symbol or will it stay on HSDPA when its live
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When I run lte only I get nothing. Now will I see a 4g symbol or will it stay on HSDPA when its live
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Put it to LTE/WCDMA/GSM mode. Once ready, you'll see LTE.
Is there a rollout plan in existance that anyone may know yet?
I'm sure my area would be on the bottom 3/4 but you never know.
I know a few super small town not far from here got the standard 4g/LTE before the metro areas a while back, mainly because farmers sell their land so towers can be built. Gotta love the Midwest.
sorry folks but seattle will get it first!
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Hey everyone, love the phone first of all. My problem? Sprint. I used to have sprint, but ended up going to tmobile with the nexus 4. When I decided to get HTC one, it was either pray for online store to have one available and pay $99 + $90 a month, or get one at a local sprint store and pay $50 for service (sero). Ended up transferring to sprint.
Right now, I'm in dc, and I really have pretty deeply data speeds, even on lte it gets maybe 3mbps... Granted, I know that dc market isn't live yet, but still. At the gym I go to, if I'm on lte it works good, but even with full bars it decides to drop down to 3g often, Shi h results in me not even being able to stream a thing... Never those issues on T-Mobile, reason I wanted new phone was to odd issues on nexus 4 and I wasn't sure if it was phone related, or network. A lot of people seemed to have similar problems on nexus though. It'd end up dropping all service, or just poor reception in general. I've heard that tmo variant of the HTC had much better antenna...
Now, I will be moving to Atlanta in 20 days, I know that T-Mobile is pretty good there. I know that sprint used to be terrible there, but how is it now? The lte there is supposed to be at 70% deploymenet, but I'm guessing that's just the downtown area, I'll be living in buckhead. Anybody out in that area that could comment on speeds?
Financially, makes more sense to stick to sprint. $99 for phone + $50 a month vs $99 phone + $90 a month.
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Hey everyone, love the phone first of all. My problem? Sprint. I used to have sprint, but ended up going to tmobile with the nexus 4. When I decided to get HTC one, it was either pray for online store to have one available and pay $99 + $90 a month, or get one at a local sprint store and pay $50 for service (sero). Ended up transferring to sprint.
Right now, I'm in dc, and I really have pretty deeply data speeds, even on lte it gets maybe 3mbps... Granted, I know that dc market isn't live yet, but still. At the gym I go to, if I'm on lte it works good, but even with full bars it decides to drop down to 3g often, Shi h results in me not even being able to stream a thing... Never those issues on T-Mobile, reason I wanted new phone was to odd issues on nexus 4 and I wasn't sure if it was phone related, or network. A lot of people seemed to have similar problems on nexus though. It'd end up dropping all service, or just poor reception in general. I've heard that tmo variant of the HTC had much better antenna...
Now, I will be moving to Atlanta in 20 days, I know that T-Mobile is pretty good there. I know that sprint used to be terrible there, but how is it now? The lte there is supposed to be at 70% deploymenet, but I'm guessing that's just the downtown area, I'll be living in buckhead. Anybody out in that area that could comment on speeds?
Financially, makes more sense to stick to sprint. $99 for phone + $50 a month vs $99 phone + $90 a month.
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If you want information on where you can find LTE, check www.sensorly.com or get their app from the Google Play Store. That's going to tell you where the LTE is where you're going.
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If you want information on where you can find LTE, check www.sensorly.com or get their app from the Google Play Store. That's going to tell you where the LTE is where you're going.
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Tried that, doesnf really give too accurate of info, I've used it before for sprint and it gave me really good coverage info, yet, 3g was still obysmal (200kbps).
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Tried that, doesnf really give too accurate of info, I've used it before for sprint and it gave me really good coverage info, yet, 3g was still obysmal (200kbps).
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If you're so concerned, go to Atlanta and test it. You can also check the thread in this particular forum where users are posting screenshots of their speedtests as well as general locations.
My friend had an Evo and moved to Atlanta. Fast forward to now, he switched to Verizon lol.
ps I will gladly take your HTC One off of your hands
I will say this, I live in atlanta and I get lte everywhere including all surrounding counties and cities outside the perimeter. If you are really moving to atlanta you should definitely stay with sprint, things have improved exponentially over the last year or so. Early last year I was this close to switching to at&t and decided to give sprint one more damn year and it turned out to be a pretty good decision. Now sprint might still be garbage in other places but in atlanta its pretty damn good.
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I will say this, I live in atlanta and I get lte everywhere including all surrounding counties and cities outside the perimeter. If you are really moving to atlanta you should definitely stay with sprint, things have improved exponentially over the last year or so. Early last year I was this close to switching to at&t and decided to give sprint one more damn year and it turned out to be a pretty good decision. Now sprint might still be garbage in other places but in atlanta its pretty damn good.
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Nice! What speeds do you usually get?
Ans to the person who said just go there... I am in June, but it doesn't make sense to go now just to see how it is, and if I wait till June I will be outside of my 14 day.
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Nice! What speeds do you usually get?
Ans to the person who said just go there... I am in June, but it doesn't make sense to go now just to see how it is, and if I wait till June I will be outside of my 14 day.
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For the most part I would say that I average about 15megs down with very low pings. Of course its not perfect, at times you will have those moments when you hit 30+megs and other times you will have those moments where you can barely hit 5megs but that doesn't happen very often at all.
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For the most part I would say that I average about 15megs down with very low pings. Of course its not perfect, at times you will have those moments when you hit 30+megs and other times you will have those moments where you can barely hit 5megs but that doesn't happen very often at all.
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Thank you for the info. Would you say it is more consistent than T-Mobile there?
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Thank you for the info. Would you say it is more consistent than T-Mobile there?
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Well a few of my friends have tmobile service and for the most part hspa+ is pretty fast as well but ping times are no where near what you can get compared to lte. There aren't many places where I would actually recommend sprint service but atlanta is definitely one of those places where I would recommend sprint.
also if you're looking to keep tabs on the LTE network for sprint, i'd recommend S4gru, its a blog as well you can follow peoples comments and check out what areas are spotting LTE. Just a warning it gets quite addictive i check like once a day for orlando lol
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also if you're looking to keep tabs on the LTE network for sprint, i'd recommend S4gru, its a blog as well you can follow peoples comments and check out what areas are spotting LTE. Just a warning it gets quite addictive i check like once a day for orlando lol
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Haha yea, that's partially why I decided to give it a shot, the fact that s4guru listed Atlanta at such high completion. I just don't know, I like the idea of what sprint is doing, they should have very good lte coverage and good building penetration in the future. Although, sadly, a lot of what sprint said over the past few years sounded great on paper, yet, failed in reality.
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So, as many of you know, Sprint took a huge fall from 2004-2006. They have since to recover fully to the mobile giant they once were, but as of recently, some monumental changes have been made. Many analysts even believe 2014 will be the year for Sprint. Lately, Network Vision has made a huge impact on many customers (including myself) with 4G LTE and upgraded 3G, the iDen (push-to-talk) network has been shut down for good, Sprint acquired ClearWire, and SoftBank invested in Sprint. They're even dropping the old "Sprint Nextel" name and switching to "Sprint Corp." as soon as the deal goes through.
So what do you guys think? With the owner of SoftBank, Masayoshi Son, willing to throw billions into Sprint for network upgrades, is Sprint making a comeback? Or should we just ignore all that and jump ship to AT&T or Verizon?
I'm fairly optimistic about Sprint myself, so I'd really like to hear some other opinions.
I think Sprint is about to make some power moves and some big ones.a friend of mine in Carolina has metro pcs phone service and when he pulls his battery out of his phone it says Sprint and has a Sprint logo and whenever Sprint makes a move so do they. They rolled out 4g lte at the same time, they have the same equipment, Sprint branding hidden throughout metro pcs devices something is brewing lol....
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I hope sprint doesnt forget about us who stuck with them. If sprint became number one you can bet they will be doing the same rates as verizon. 4g lte with unlimited is good but tmobile has the same and is catching up in the 4g lte department. Plus tmobile is gsm. Always a plus.
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Sprint in Indiana is 100x better since network vision upgrades started. Let's just hope softbank can fund sprint enough to cover all the roaming areas.
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Sprint in Indiana is 100x better since network vision upgrades started. Let's just hope softbank can fund sprint enough to cover all the roaming areas.
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With the Nextel Spectrum now available to Sprint's disposal, the sub-1 Ghz spectrum (the lower the frequency, the more coverage/wall penetration is has.) will help Sprint's national footprint by a longshot. This is only possible now because Sprint shut down the Nextel network on June 30th. Not only that, but for the crowded areas, Sprint has Clearwire with their enormous Spectrum holding, that they literally have enough spectrum to offer 100mbps speeds on their towers. This is completely up to Softbank and their plans, but from what I hear, Softbank is only going to make Sprint better for its consumers, and the duopoly in a few years will be hurting.
True. Killing nextel is huge. It will come together in the next 2 years. To bad our phones only support lte 1900. I'm happy to see them in the right direction. I'm sticking with them.
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I think Sprint is about to make some power moves and some big ones.a friend of mine in Carolina has metro pcs phone service and when he pulls his battery out of his phone it says Sprint and has a Sprint logo and whenever Sprint makes a move so do they. They rolled out 4g lte at the same time, they have the same equipment, Sprint branding hidden throughout metro pcs devices something is brewing lol....
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that your friend had a sprint device metroflashed to metropcs, thats all that means.
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that your friend had a sprint device metroflashed to metropcs, thats all that means.
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No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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i dont know what kind of store your friend bought it at but i assure you metropcs has never sold a sprint like device. i have been working on their phone since the sgs1 days and they had a crappy knock off of the epic called the indulge 4g.
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No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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Because metro stores can by a lot of Sprint phones from a distributor , brand new in the box.
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i dont know what kind of store your friend bought it at but i assure you metropcs has never sold a sprint like device. i have been working on their phone since the sgs1 days and they had a crappy knock off of the epic called the indulge 4g.
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I don't know what kind of store it was but he called to ask me about a possible merger between the 2 companies when he saw it to see if I had heard anything because I worked for Sprint at the time I told I had not heard anything and he said his phone was branded Sprint with the Sprint logo in the battery compartment but the outside was metro pcs branding the phone he had at the time was their version of the original Motorola photon
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Because metro stores can by a lot of Sprint phones from a distributor , brand new in the box.
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no corporate store would do that, they would rather try to sell you the phones metropcs actually has, they stopped the metroflash service for that reason
there was no version of the photon for them, us cellular had the electrify, but metropcs has NEVER had a moto android device
edit: turns out they did have a few metro phones here was their last one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXqXijDNvlU
I've seen plenty do that. I have brothers who are distributors and sell a couple dozen phones at a time to cricket and metro.
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no corporate store would do that, they would rather try to sell you the phones metropcs actually has, they stopped the metroflash service for that reason
there was no version of the photon for them, us cellular had the electrify, but metropcs has NEVER had a moto device
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Yeah that is the phone so it was us cellular my bad I got the little guys mixed up they both might as well be straight talk as far as I am concerned lol I don't have either one of them here in Nashville so I don't know what metro flash is bro Lol we have Sprint, Verizon, at&t, t mobile, cricket and simple mobile oh and of course straight talk thanks to Wal-Mart
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Either way it was a small company in a weak Sprint coverage area with Sprint branding inside the phone battery compartment
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Yeah that is the phone so it was us cellular my bad I got the little guys mixed up they both might as well be straight talk as far as I am concerned lol I don't have either one of them here in Nashville so I don't know what metro flash is bro Lol we have Sprint, Verizon, at&t, t mobile, cricket and simple mobile oh and of course straight talk thanks to Wal-Mart
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not a problem. and since the reverse merger with tmobile is almost done, id suggest you keep your eye on metropcs. they had the first lte phone, first lte service in america, merged with tmobile to become the 4th largest carrier in america. now they have an agressive 2 year plan to shut off cdma and switch all of their prepaid customers to gsm within that time. as it turns out 60%+ of metro's customer upgrade their devices at least once a year. it will be interesting to see how much metro's cheap plans will end up cutting a hole into tmobile's famous 30 dollar plan.
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not a problem. and since the reverse merger with tmobile is almost done, id suggest you keep your eye on metropcs. they had the first lte phone, first lte service in america, merged with tmobile to become the 4th largest carrier in america. now they have an agressive 2 year plan to shut off cdma and switch all of their prepaid customers to gsm within that time. as it turns out 60%+ of metro's customer upgrade their devices at least once a year. it will be interesting to see how much metro's cheap plans will end up cutting a hole into tmobile's famous 30 dollar plan.
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We will see what happens I mean you merge with another company to be number 4 that doesn't sound like you are trying to make power moves to me that really won't affect us in our market because T-Mobile is not holding their own very well around here because their coverage sucks here for every 10 stores of the big 3 you see maybe 2 T-Mobile stores and all 4 have call centers here when I worked at Verizon when we had our quarterly meetings they wouldn't even mention T-Mobile if they did it was because they were the punch line of a joke lol
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I've been with Sprint for the first time since May of last year and I'm excited for them and what they have in store for us. I hope they bring 4G LTE to more areas quicker.
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We will see what happens I mean you merge with another company to be number 4 that doesn't sound like you are trying to make power moves to me that really won't affect us in our market because T-Mobile is not holding their own very well around here because their coverage sucks here for every 10 stores of the big 3 you see maybe 2 T-Mobile stores and all 4 have call centers here when I worked at Verizon when we had our quarterly meetings they wouldn't even mention T-Mobile if they did it was because they were the punch line of a joke lol
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Most people just consider T-Mobile just a regional carrier, specific to the west coast. So on the coverage end I don't think Sprint, being the nationwide carrier that they are, has anything to worry about. All I can see is that if Sprint doesn't pick up momentum on the west coast with LTE that T-Mobile could catch up. Right now the only real place that T-Mobile has LTE that Sprint doesn't yet is in Arizona, but Sprint is rolling it out now. Also, now with the SoftBank investment, Sprint has much more capital for a long term LTE and LTE-Advanced deployment. So with all these recent happenings, I see no reason to switch carriers :laugh:
Time will tell...After 14 years with Sprint I keep thinking about getting T-Mobile. I like not having to pay full price on phones though. Heck i make money. LoL. I have 5 lines so always have a upgrade to use.
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With SoftBank and Clear, Sprint has far too much potential for any of us to start being hasty. If your with the girl when she's fat...don't leave when she starts going to the gym.
They only problem they have is their roaming agreement. They have never solidified a good contract for it. The New plans even limit your roaming data and voice, it's they're only down fall imo. But when the build is near complete, that won't be an issue.
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http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/10/...imited-global-data-roaming-at-no-extra-charge
Look at that... What do hmu guys think?
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I should have bought an unlocked phone grabbed a tmo SIM and be on my marry a$$ way instead of dealing with this dinosaur spead 3g ....golly ...good grief!!
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this is awesome, hopefully sprint catches on and does something similar. Sprints international rates are atrocious! Although the One does have removable SIM capabilities, it would cut down the hassle of acquiring one in a different country and possibly having to cut it to microsim specs.
I regret my decision of staying with sprint every day. It takes me over 2 minutes to do a simple Google search on sprints network in my area that is supposedly in an LTE zone. The network is atrocious and they keep saying theyre upgrading the towers but it's been almost a year and if anything it's only gotten worse. The only thing that stopped me from going to T-Mobile was their terrible coverage in Michigan. Here's hoping this announcement gets Sprint moving to finally deploying a data network that is usable.
This is awesome, not because it makes me wanna switch to T-Mobile, but because it makes other carriers have to step up their game to compete on a level playing field
I for one like sprint. Except when I have 3g. Then it just plain sucks. Thankfully I have LTE almost everywhere
You do know that sprint may buy out T-Mobile
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Somebody should leak T-Mobile
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Somebody should leak T-Mobile
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Haha that my friend is the quote of the day !!!
Haha good job
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Tmobile is great haha just switched over and still using my sprint HTC one highest I've seen on speedtest is 6.9 mb/s Download keep in mind this is 3G
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How the Hell did T-Mobile beat sprint I'm the LTE ROLLOUT?! SERIOUSLY
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This is awesome, not because it makes me wanna switch to T-Mobile, but because it makes other carriers have to step up their game to compete on a level playing field
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^^^^this^^^^
Look at what happened when the $5 hot and ready pizza came out. Everybody changed pricing or menu items to become more competitive... :thumbup:
Or fast food 'value' menu's, suddenly every fast food chain had one...
Or 60 second abs, soon it only took 45 seconds!
Kudos to T-Mobile for doing something new.
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How the Hell did T-Mobile beat sprint I'm the LTE ROLLOUT?! SERIOUSLY
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Someone should leak LTE for sprint
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Haha omg ^^^^ this guy good
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Coverage needs improvement but I get good speeds
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Damn you Sprint!!! All I want is LTE....is that too much to ask?
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You do know that sprint may buy out T-Mobile
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This is not going to happen. T mobile is on a roll. There network is better. There plans are better and there upgrade plan is better. They are taking the other threes customers daily. They are going to surpass sprint very quickly if they haven't and their lte coverage has already surpassed sprint. Sprint still doesn't care and sprints lte network as a whole is terrible. Yeah some people post some big speeds but for the most part most of us are not impressed. If t mobile has the monetary status to roll out their lte network like this so does sprint. T mobile was almost dead a year and a half ago. Sprint put in an lte network to say they are lte. Nothing more. Sorry sprint. T mobile has +42 hspa and lte. Why are we still here? Contract up in June and I'll bet t mobile has lte before sprint where I live so this is my last with sprint. End RANT!
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treIII said:
This is not going to happen. T mobile is on a roll. There network is better. There plans are better and there upgrade plan is better. They are taking the other threes customers daily. They are going to surpass sprint very quickly if they haven't and their lte coverage has already surpassed sprint. Sprint still doesn't care and sprints lte network as a whole is terrible. Yeah some people post some big speeds but for the most part most of us are not impressed. If t mobile has the monetary status to roll out their lte network like this so does sprint. T mobile was almost dead a year and a half ago. Sprint put in an lte network to say they are lte. Nothing more. Sorry sprint. T mobile has +42 hspa and lte. Why are we still here? Contract up in June and I'll bet t mobile has lte before sprint where I live so this is my last with sprint. End RANT!
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What T-Mobile is doing for pricing and their offering is amazing. I really hope it spurs some real price competition from Sprint. Their 3G coverage in my area is total crap though, EDGE only in all of Bristol TN/VA and pretty much the entire areas around Johnson City and Kingsport. My biggest beef with T-Mobile is trust though. How do you trust a carrier that tried to sell their customer's out to the death star (AT&T)?
I do think Sprint is going to continue bleeding customers to T-Mobile unless they can do this:
-Provide some kind of similar free throttled international data, at the very least to Canada and Mexico.
-Go "no contract"
-Add sites to fix terrible 1900MHz LTE coverage in many areas where all their current towers have been upgraded but coverage still sucks, or hurry up on the tri-band phones and rollout of 800MHz LTE
-Lower the prices a bit
-Family plan price changes. Sprint's family plans are the worst deal out of the 4 carriers, and it's hard to make a worse deal than Verizon.
-Wifi calling on their phones would be better than the Airave program that I know costs Sprint lots of money
Basically, if Sprint would copy a lot of T-Mobile's ideas and fix serious issues with their LTE rollout, they'd be in a much better position. Sprint customer service is already better than T-Mobile, and that's pretty much the only selling point compared to T-Mobile besides superior non-LTE coverage. If things don't change soon, those selling points may become moot.
kwolf said:
What T-Mobile is doing for pricing and their offering is amazing. I really hope it spurs some real price competition from Sprint. Their 3G coverage in my area is total crap though, EDGE only in all of Bristol TN/VA and pretty much the entire areas around Johnson City and Kingsport. My biggest beef with T-Mobile is trust though. How do you trust a carrier that tried to sell their customer's out to the death star (AT&T)?
I do think Sprint is going to continue bleeding customers to T-Mobile unless they can do this:
-Provide some kind of similar free throttled international data, at the very least to Canada and Mexico.
-Go "no contract"
-Add sites to fix terrible 1900MHz LTE coverage in many areas where all their current towers have been upgraded but coverage still sucks, or hurry up on the tri-band phones and rollout of 800MHz LTE
-Lower the prices a bit
-Family plan price changes. Sprint's family plans are the worst deal out of the 4 carriers, and it's hard to make a worse deal than Verizon.
-Wifi calling on their phones would be better than the Airave program that I know costs Sprint lots of money
Basically, if Sprint would copy a lot of T-Mobile's ideas and fix serious issues with their LTE rollout, they'd be in a much better position. Sprint customer service is already better than T-Mobile, and that's pretty much the only selling point compared to T-Mobile besides superior non-LTE coverage. If things don't change soon, those selling points may become moot.
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If their service was better in the first place. We wouldn't need it so much. So as for this being a selling point. No good. T mobile has already surpassed sprint in their lte rollout. And at the pace they are moving they are definitely putting improvements from monetary gains immediately back in the company. It won't be long at this pace and the approach they have in winning customers that they will continue to move quickly in their customer gains and ranking. Their lte just came second to att and beat att in 20 markets. Sprint is doing nothing but putting lte on existing towers. Therefore until they actuall will not improve coverage but just provide lte when we are close enough to a tower. Softbanks acquisition of sprint hasn't showed any improvements of the speed of deployment of lte. We already have the networks vision implemented where I live and there is honestly no improvement in call quality nor 3g speeds other than once in a while. I live 1.6 miles from a tower that has the netwot vision improvements and I have to use an airrave. Makes my stomach turn honestly. I've asked them why I need the airrave. The tower is literally on my street and I can't make a call from home without the airrave. T mobile has made improvements where I live and many people I know have moved from sprint to tmobile.
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treIII said:
If their service was better in the first place. We wouldn't need it so much. So as for this being a selling point. No good. T mobile has already surpassed sprint in their lte rollout. And at the pace they are moving they are definitely putting improvements from monetary gains immediately back in the company. It won't be long at this pace and the approach they have in winning customers that they will continue to move quickly in their customer gains and ranking. Their lte just came second to att and beat att in 20 markets. Sprint is doing nothing but putting lte on existing towers. Therefore until they actuall will not improve coverage but just provide lte when we are close enough to a tower. Softbanks acquisition of sprint hasn't showed any improvements of the speed of deployment of lte. We already have the networks vision implemented where I live and there is honestly no improvement in call quality nor 3g speeds other than once in a while. I live 1.6 miles from a tower that has the netwot vision improvements and I have to use an airrave. Makes my stomach turn honestly. I've asked them why I need the airrave. The tower is literally on my street and I can't make a call from home without the airrave. T mobile has made improvements where I live and many people I know have moved from sprint to tmobile.
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I live 3/4 of a mile from a tower and only get 1-2 bars inside without the Airave. I feel your pain. My T-Mobile friends cannot use their phones in my house at all unless they switch it to Wi-Fi calling.
T-Mobile is an absolute joke in this rural area. Right now they're only a serious option in cities, and nothing has changed regarding their coverage in my area or surrounding areas, so I have no reason to suspect this will change. Sprint has 3G all along I-81 even in rural southwest VA, whereas T-Mobile has only EDGE in SWVA for 3 hours from the state line, and they have only EDGE between the Tri Cities and Knoxville. Sprint has also added LTE to much of this area, for example the Greeneville, TN and Bristol, TN/VA markets have LTE from Sprint but only Edge from T-Mobile. T-Mobile LTE has not touched any region within 3 hours of me besides Asheville NC. My friend just drove up to Athens, OH on T-Mobile and was roaming for 5 hours of the 7 hour drive because T-Mobile has crap rural coverage. There is Sprint 3G coverage on that entire drive and 4G for the first hour.
If you live in a city T-Mobile may be great for you, but it's still not an option for most rural or semi-rural people.