Alright, everyone.
My Atrix 2 just died on me. Well, didn't die, the screen cracked open, long story.
Basically, I need a new phone.
However, because the Atrix 2 STILL hasn't gotten ICS, I swore to never return to Motorola. Yeah, it's not 100% their fault that it's taking them so long, but seriously? It's become really annoying.
So I promised to ONLY buy Android products that have the word "Nexus" in their title, phones that get DIRECT updates from Google without wait and without alterations.
Problem is, I was gonna hold out on the Galaxy Nexus since I feel like a new one must be on the horizon.
Then I heard of the Atrix HD, which, like the other Atrixes (Atrice? Atrici?) has a very amazing starting price of $100.
And now Motorola mobile is owned by Google, right?
So, the TL;DR version of it is this:
Is this phone likely to see timely and consistent updates from Google? I know it just came out, but you guys are really great at what you do, so I'm wondering what your predictions are. Is this phone likely to see Jelly Bean at all in the near future?
I'd like to buy a phone that is future proof to AT LEAST Jelly Bean.
Thanks
The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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mugabuga said:
The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.
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according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.
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That can't be right. When the Atrix 4G launched it was the top of the line Motorola phone, the first dual core phone and won best of CES 2011. Anyway I'd have to agree with the previous poster it will eventually receive JB.
From my understanding, any device that runs ICS will be able to run JB
Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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Agreed, coming from a RAZR (yesterday) I'm well aware of Moto's lag time in Android updates. I have to say, though, they did an awesome job with ICS... Took forever, but it's awesome!
I took the red pill... It's the mAtrix for me...
http://android-gz.com
Well hope its gonna be soon this time!!!cant wait for buttery smooth experience!!!
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I'm pretty happy with ICS, so I'm OK waiting a little while for JB. Motorola will probably release it in 6 months, then AT&T will delay it for 6-9 more...not that it's really OK, I wish updates were faster. They need to cut out the carrier-specific modifications!
My wife just today got the new Motorola Atrix HD. So far I think it is a very nice phone and hope she gets great service from it. I to hope that the Jelly Bean update is pushed out for this phone. Only time will tell.
According to this, the Motorola Defy will get JB and it's reasonable that the newest devices will too...
Jelly Bean for the MyTouch 4G Slide, Desire HD, and Motorola Defy
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Just noticed it's a ROM so I'm assuming this is specially made b/c of it unlocked? But here is another quote...
"These devices are all a little older than some would expect to be receiving ports. But if the HTC HD2 can get it, newer devices should be able to as well."
Motorola Defy is still running on an old modified Froyo kernel, seeing as how they never even got gingerbread.
Quarx ported Jellybean over, however.Motorola has long stopped during about the defy
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Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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The good news is that AT&T isn't forcing you onto the new shared data plans...yet. I figure they'll eventually decide to do that to keep up with Verizon, but for now they look a little better because of it.
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Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.
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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.
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Totally agree with you!!! i dont buy any thing form bestbuy anymore!!!
OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too
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OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too
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You strike me as someone who intends on modding ur phone, running roms and other mods or apps that require root so that makes the decision very easy, the GS3. It comes with an unlocked bootloader, root was gained before the phone was even released, the dev support is massive, aftermarket support is amazing, and JB is coming soon! Dont like the battery life? You can use a higher capacity battery if you choose. The camera is lovely! Especially since you're gonna be getting it for half off, that makes it a no brainer!
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Gadgetz.... thanks.. Actually your assumption is a little off base and that's due to me having been an iOS person for the past 4 years. And it's also the reason I'm drawn to Android, and even moreso after having watched the various vids about JB and Google Now.. simply amazing new version of Android.
So if I understand what you're saying, you're recommending I go with the GS3 for various reasons, regardless of me not liking the blue tint on AMOLED screens. And I can understand this to some degree. Also, when you install Nova I thought it only changed the look of the home pages and icons. Are you saying that it completely changes the UI including the notification bar where you can toggle on/off for Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi, etc? Sorry, but I'm a noob. I do like the new garnet red color on the GS3 but all of them are fingerprint magnets as you know. What case and screen protector do you recommend? Already found a high end, class 10 32mb microSD for $35 on eBay.
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I don’t know if it’s true but the guy at the Verizon store told me he heard the Bionic was being canceled and they were coming out with a better version with a 12MP cam, 1 GIG Ram, etc and it would be out in September now.
Don’t know if it’s true or old news.
That is the current rumor. The Bionic is being replaced with the Targa. No official confirmation from Moto or Verizon yet.
If and when confirmed I will need to buy an interim device from Craigslist to hold me over until the release of the new batch of dual core 4G phones are released.
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I wish there were more information about time lines. I am eligible for upgrade now. Nothing looks good at this point if this gets canceled. The Charge is single core ($300, WTF!), the Revolution rumors are going back and forth (dual/single core), the X2 doesn't have 4G, the Thunderdolt has a tiny battery and is a single core device... Targa in September? My DInc won't last that long. I might just upgrade to the DX on a one year contract. (Yes, I know the one year contract is unavailable to the masses...)
I called verizon and I'm not sure which rep you talked to, but they not only told me the rumor wasn't true, but they said reps shouldn't ever give a rumor like that unless it's confirmed. Then this popped up... http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Motorola-Droid-Bionic-Delayed-as-iPhone-5-Looms-229162/
It's delayed no canned.
this is great news, i wasn't looking forward to eating the 600 bionic cases i received 2 weeks ago! well great news would be a may release date, but this is at least good news.
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this is great news, i wasn't looking forward to eating the 600 bionic cases i received 2 weeks ago! well great news would be a may release date, but this is at least good news.
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Unfortunately you may not be out of the woods yet. In addition to "enhancements" the rumor mill also suggests an updated form factor.
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That is the current rumor. The Bionic is being replaced with the Targa. No official confirmation from Moto or Verizon yet.
If and when confirmed I will need to buy an interim device from Craigslist to hold me over until the release of the new batch of dual core 4G phones are released.
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this is true.
I bought a DInc from Craigslist. I have rooted and loaded CM7.0.2.1. It's running smooth with all day battery life on stock battery with moderate use, about 12 hours with 20% of battery left. This includes about 4 hours of Pandora use on 3G.
I can wait for the new Bionic now.
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The Bionic has been removed from the Motorola web site
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Home
Motorola has removed the Droid Bionic from their web site. Searching on the site will only lead you to the Mobile Phone Support site.
Hope to see the new Droid Bionic site up in the near future.
I was at the Verizon store today, and inquired about the Bionic. The guy there said it was being postponed because they're removing the dual core processor & going with single core, due to massive overheating that they couldn't find a workaround for.
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I was at the Verizon store today, and inquired about the Bionic. The guy there said it was being postponed because they're removing the dual core processor & going with single core, due to massive overheating that they couldn't find a workaround for.
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Though there was no specific information given about the changes being made other than the form factor, I highly doubt they'd do that. It's been the phone every is zeroed in on because of the Tegra 2 along side 4G.
Motorola's DROID BIONIC LTE smartphone, first announced at this year's International Consumer Electronics Show, will launch this summer with Verizon Wireless. Based on compelling feedback since the show, we are incorporating several enhancements to make this an even better consumer experience. This includes expanded features, functionality and an improved form factor.
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Source: http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-DROID-BIONIC-Fact-Sheet-353a.aspx
I highly their idea of an enhancement is a downgrade. The "Improved form factor" could mean they're using a different phone entirey(same features, obviously and hopefully more or "enhancements" wouldn't be the right word) because of issues they were having, as some have thought to have been heat issues before. There have been others saying that it resembled the HTC Thunderbolt too closely, which is true in a lot of ways, but nobody but the people working on the phone really know anything for sure. All we can do is speculate.
Motorola isn't going to drop to a single core processor. It'd be a bad move on their part to release a phone with such similar specs to, both, the Thunderbolt and Charge, which are both already out there. We all wanted the Bionic because it would blow the other Verizon phones out of the water in comparison.
On a personal note... they need to hurry up and get the Bionic out there so I can upgrade.. lol My Droid 1 is still nice and all, but my physical keyboard is done for... letters separated and glue not holding.. letters overlapping, making it hard to type without constantly pushing them back... lol I refuse to settle for less than upgrading to a phone of the Bionic's specs or better. A phone that is overkill now is a phone that'll still be decent when I upgrade again, is the way I look at it.
I ramble... sorry.. lol
This is true. It has been scraped for a better Moto Device. This device is to be released during the summer. So far they do not have alot of specs on it. I know a VZW employee and he could not give me a name of the Moto 4G device that is coming out but its this summer.
Well thats pretty dissapointing i was very much looking forward to atleast getting my hands on one, hopefully Motorola releases something better this summer
Wow I almost waited for the Bionic when I bought my Atrix because I was tired of AT&T. Then they kept pushing the bionic out and I finally caved and got the Atrix. By September I will be 1/3 of the way through my contract and maybe when this contract is up Verizon will have one I want. Sorry to hear it may be canceled.
one thing every one here seems to need to learn... PEOPLE AT THE VZW STORE ARE ****ING SALESMEN!
meaning, they will tell you whever lies they think you want to hear to try to get you to buy a new phone THAT DAY.
just saying they are always lieing to you to get sales... i see it happen all day at work. dont be a sucker. you're getter off geting info from sites liek this than sales associates.
There will still be a Droid Bionic, it just won't be quite what it was originally supposed to be. It will need a different case than what was originally going to need, so if you already bought cases, you will be out of luck. The problem is that other companies (Samsung) have announced better phones, with better screen since Motorola announced the Bionic. The Dual 1.2ghz is better than what Motorola had announced so they have to go back and fix that. After the long wait, they don't want to come out just to be second best.
What is this new form factor that is alluded to? I hope that it is shaped like the Atrix honestly.
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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
If everyone bought Nexus devices because of the prompt updates, it would kick other manufacturers into investing in larger software development teams to deliver updates ontime.
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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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As long as there is a choice I will always go for a Nexus, can't be bothered with manufacturers' customisations and carrier restrictions. Whether the Nexus or similar concept will go on indefinitely is another matter.
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Whether the Nexus or similar concept will go on indefinitely is another matter.
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Any reason why it wouldn't? Aren't they supposed to come out with multiple Nexus phones sometime at the end of this year?
Many people have felt this way for a while now. Welcome to the club! I laugh at people when i get asked "are you getting the galaxy s3?" I did make the mistake of getting the Verizon nexus, but i paid the etf and bought the gsm unlocked nexus. Now I'm back to our Google and my n7 is on its way. Google shipped it yesterday!
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Any reason why it wouldn't? Aren't they supposed to come out with multiple Nexus phones sometime at the end of this year?
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If profits at Google fall at some point they may take resources away from the hardware side and concentrate on the software side. Wouldn't like to see that happen but can't be discounted.
If, as seems likely, the Nexus 7 becomes the top-selling Android tablet other manufacturers may decide to withdraw from the sector as they can't compete against a company using consumable sales profits in the Play Store to effectively subsidise their manufacturing costs. Alternatively there could be some form of unfair competition or monopoly complaint. Hope not but wouldn't rule it out.
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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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seriously.. you really make me envy.. i hope i could have it soon enough..
That it runs stock standard un-bastardised Android is almost at the top of my list of benefits beaten only by screen quality and weight.
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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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Lol I love this little device solo much that I bought a Mifi and am gonna try to use this as my phone replacement along with Google voice
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Same here I'll never get another android phone besides the next nexus... I bought a Galaxy Note and it took Samsung almost 5months to get ICS which to me is still buggy as hell. I'm Glad I kept my Galaxy
Nexus... I took my gnex out of the box just because of jelly bean, the thing is like a brand new phone! So I had no choice to get the matching tablet!
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I feel the same way now. I'd like to get one that works with my VZW account but I don't trust buying one through VZW.
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That it runs stock standard un-bastardised Android is almost at the top of my list of benefits beaten only by screen quality and weight.
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Amen to that brotha. I'm loving the nexus7 stock android, and the next phone will be a Gnex.
this kind of posts kinda urges me to buy m7 immediately even more..
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Lol I love this little device solo much that I bought a Mifi and am gonna try to use this as my phone replacement along with Google voice
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So... You are gonna use a 7 inch device as a phone? Kinda extreme
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My first super phone was the Atrix 4g waited forever for gingerbread.... was super extra pissed ! Flushed it down the toilet purchased a gsm nexus now life is goooooooooood!
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I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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Seriously, thank you for this.
I was worried when I first came on the Nexus sub-forum, that there was a lot of negativity and issues. And granted there are bad experiences with every first run of any product.... but this is the first phone/media device purchase that I have actually been fairly content with it out of the box. My phone (Samsung Vibrant) I have gotten tired the last few months of flashing it weekly since I bought it.
Of course, I am bound to run into things, but I felt the same way clankfu
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Many people have felt this way for a while now. Welcome to the club! I laugh at people when i get asked "are you getting the galaxy s3?" I did make the mistake of getting the Verizon nexus, but i paid the etf and bought the gsm unlocked nexus. Now I'm back to our Google and my n7 is on its way. Google shipped it yesterday!
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Housry! Sup buddy? Haven't seen you since the Evo 3D days (or cm7 nightmares). I had the Verizon Nexus and loved the hell out of it. I have the GSIII now and also love it. Got my N7 yesterday and love that too lol.
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The solution for the OEMS is to keep stock jellybean! To differentiate, include new or different hardware or form factor etc. Then put exclusive apps or features that don't require a change of the system. You could have the play store check for something unique to allow the product download or something. That way there would be no problem keeping it current.
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The solution for the OEMS is to keep stock jellybean! To differentiate, include new or different hardware or form factor etc. Then put exclusive apps or features that don't require a change of the system. You could have the play store check for something unique to allow the product download or something. That way there would be no problem keeping it current.
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I don't see why HTC couldn't do that with their HTC Sense. It's essentially a launcher.
In the midst of fighting with verizon over getting a working revo i jumped ship and bought a Moto RAZR on craigstlist for cheap. I appreciate all the help y'all have given over the last year and how hard everyone(especially mtmichaelson) has fought to make the revo a damn good phone. I have to admit, after tasting ics, gingerbread is just bland! Thanks again guys, and good luck on keeping the revo at least moderately caught up in the wake of all the new JB and ICS phones on the market!
I'm almost about ready to do the same. It's weird how this phone is a little over a year old and already obsolete.
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I'm looking at jumping ship as well and buying a Droid 4. I know it uses a microsim and ours uses a full sim card. Do I need to do anything other than cut it down to micro size or will it just work when I stick it in the new phone? Do I need to contact Verizon for activation or anything? Thanks.
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I'm looking at jumping ship as well and buying a Droid 4. I know it uses a microsim and ours uses a full sim card. Do I need to do anything other than cut it down to micro size or will it just work when I stick it in the new phone? Do I need to contact Verizon for activation or anything? Thanks.
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Micro is a completely different size and card. You would have to contact Verizon. You can go into a corporate store also. They have extras they can activate for you. Last I knew they were free with a sales pitch for an add a line our upgrade lol.
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Haha, yeah. I'm sure there would be a sales pitch. lol Definitely.
Thanks for your answer but are you sure about the card? I've read that as long as you keep the circuitry and contact points intact cutting a sim down to a micro sim will still function. Or is there yet another kind of card I'm getting this confused with?
I recall seeing a how-to cut down the SIM card quite a few months ago. A video even. I'm certain Google would point you to something useful.
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I recall seeing a how-to cut down the SIM card quite a few months ago. A video even. I'm certain Google would point you to something useful.
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I got a new Rezound on ebay for around $300 and sold the Revo for a $100 and I could not be happier once I got ICS on the Rezound
You'd spend more time watching the video and doctoring your card than you would spend at a Verizon store getting a free replacement of the correct type....just sayin'....
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You'd spend more time watching the video and doctoring your card than you would spend at a Verizon store getting a free replacement of the correct type....just sayin'....
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I completely agree. I would go with free over cutting based off of a YouTube video.
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Thanks for the replies. I think I will just go into Verizon for the freebie card as suggested.
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Micro is a completely different size and card. You would have to contact Verizon. You can go into a corporate store also. They have extras they can activate for you. Last I knew they were free with a sales pitch for an add a line our upgrade lol.
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I just switched to a galaxy nexus, which uses a micro sim and they just switched it out for me at the Verizon store; no sales pitch.
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In the midst of fighting with verizon over getting a working revo i jumped ship and bought a Moto RAZR on craigstlist for cheap. I appreciate all the help y'all have given over the last year and how hard everyone(especially mtmichaelson) has fought to make the revo a damn good phone. I have to admit, after tasting ics, gingerbread is just bland! Thanks again guys, and good luck on keeping the revo at least moderately caught up in the wake of all the new JB and ICS phones on the market!
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I did the same thing. Picked up a galaxy nexus off of craigslist for pretty cheap. After owning the original droid I'm happy to be back to vanilla android (ICS this time). My revo had become way to slow for my liking, even with mtmichaelson's rom (which made it way better than stock).
I destroyed verizon. Revo out. Samsung Galaxy S3 to replace. for free.
This is my wife's phone and we've had it for about 6-7 months. I rooted it, ROM'd it (1st Gingervolt, then Broken Out). I'm on the latest firmware update, and again rooted and flashed Broken Out. All throughout, there were issues with bluetooth, Vibe of Death, screen freezes.
I complained just the other day - hey it was Sunday on Labor Day weekend and I had a moment. 1st Verizon rep was willing to send a replacement Revo. I told her that was unacceptable, that all the forums I've read detail that the defects I've cited are baked into the phone, it is a lemon and should be recalled and that sending me the same lemony phone was unacceptable. I urged her to elevate my claim. I was insistent and was really quite angry that she was not getting it.
I then spoke with a really great rep - technical support - to whom I mentioned all I had done (except for rooting and flashing a rom) and truthfully told her that I had upgraded to latest firmware and still had screen freezes and bluetooth problems. I told her about what I read on the forums and how the phone is just fatally flawed. I also mentioned 20 years as a Verizon cell phone customer, my family plan with 5 phones, all with data, and that what I was asking for - a different model replacement phone - was neither outrageous nor unexpected.
She asked what phone would I prefer. I first said a Razr, but said the Galaxy S3 would be great, but I doubt they'd substitute. Without a moment of delay, she said I could have the Galaxy S3 and what color, blue or white... It was shipped immediately and we are awaiting it.
So pretty soon, on ebay, you are going to see our used LG Revolution...
The moral of this story is get past the first level of customer support and stand your ground. insist on a replacement. Tell them that the Revolution is a huge disappointment and does not provide the basic functions a phone should.
Man...i wish my experience with trying to get different phones was better... I did the same thing, insisted that i would rather go to another service than get a revo back... They didnt give a rats ass... The only reason i'm still with verizon is due to the razr i found for dirt cheap. ICS is so nice in comparison!
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This is my wife's phone and we've had it for about 6-7 months. I rooted it, ROM'd it (1st Gingervolt, then Broken Out). I'm on the latest firmware update, and again rooted and flashed Broken Out. All throughout, there were issues with bluetooth, Vibe of Death, screen freezes.
I complained just the other day - hey it was Sunday on Labor Day weekend and I had a moment. 1st Verizon rep was willing to send a replacement Revo. I told her that was unacceptable, that all the forums I've read detail that the defects I've cited are baked into the phone, it is a lemon and should be recalled and that sending me the same lemony phone was unacceptable. I urged her to elevate my claim. I was insistent and was really quite angry that she was not getting it.
I then spoke with a really great rep - technical support - to whom I mentioned all I had done (except for rooting and flashing a rom) and truthfully told her that I had upgraded to latest firmware and still had screen freezes and bluetooth problems. I told her about what I read on the forums and how the phone is just fatally flawed. I also mentioned 20 years as a Verizon cell phone customer, my family plan with 5 phones, all with data, and that what I was asking for - a different model replacement phone - was neither outrageous nor unexpected.
She asked what phone would I prefer. I first said a Razr, but said the Galaxy S3 would be great, but I doubt they'd substitute. Without a moment of delay, she said I could have the Galaxy S3 and what color, blue or white... It was shipped immediately and we are awaiting it.
So pretty soon, on ebay, you are going to see our used LG Revolution...
The moral of this story is get past the first level of customer support and stand your ground. insist on a replacement. Tell them that the Revolution is a huge disappointment and does not provide the basic functions a phone should.
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They made me send mine back.This I guess was so I did not have to extend my contract date.
patsoxfan said:
They made me send mine back.This I guess was so I did not have to extend my contract date.
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I didn't know it at the time, but we have to send our Revo back. Still, getting a S3 for the Revo is a home run.
Mannn121 said:
I'm almost about ready to do the same. It's weird how this phone is a little over a year old and already obsolete.
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This phone was obsolete when it was released honestly. The Droid Charge came out before it and was a better phone for the most part. The only reason I bought it was for the unlocked bootloader but I guess none of the Android developers did because we only had limited development (not a knock against the people who did develop, but for all the developers who complained about locked bootloaders and then didn't jump on one that was unlocked)
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Those with this "awesome" phone known as the LG Revolution. How much longer do you have until your upgrade? Will you be staying on board with LG or go over to a different company? If so, what phone currently has your attention?
My upgrade is on 1/28/13 and seriously can't wait for it. As my first Android phone, this Revolution really did leave a bad impression. I doubt I'll stick with LG once I'm eligible for an upgrade. The GS3 has caught my eye. I'm lucky enough to be able to mess with it from time to time at my job. It's going to be a bit weird since all the years I have been on Verizon, all my phones were LG.
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I am up in February. This is/was not my first android phone but my overall experience with Android has not been the most ideal. I use my phone for 3 basic things, Phone calls, Texting, and Email. Android fails for me at 2 of these. Random black screen of death and a constant error message when it checks my email.
I'm bailing on Android and going to give WP8 a shot.
Well hopefully that works out for you. I'm fine with Android really. It does want I want it to. It's just I don't have the proper device lol. I might have suffered more if I didn't have Broken Out 2.0.1 on this phone. LG's UI is simply horrendous.
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I warrantied out of my Revo about 6 months ago into a Bionic. Have yet to have an issue with it. I'll never go LG again ... even If the rumors are true about them making a Nexus device.
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My first phone was an HTC Eris and it was a great little phone. The stock android sucked, the ROMS were great, email worked but other issues existed, LG phone, while my hardware is generally stable, Android will randomly go into a black screen of death usually during a phone call making so I have to pull the battery to end the call. My phone is rooted stock, running an alternative home. I tried BO, it and my phone did not agree, it was always unstable for me, happens no biggie. I am older now and much less patient then I was a few years ago. I expect it to work, the error message when checking my corporate email annoys me. It has almost no documentation on the web for the error and no one has found a fix, Invalid userID or PWD but then if you hit refresh it successfully checks and downloads the email. I think WP8 will suit me fine, if I don't like it, I will change back... nothing ventured nothing gained.
Yeah I hate that random black screen I get sometimes during a call (I thought that was only me lol). Not sure how I would feel going to Motorola though to be honest, but it's most likely better than what LG has been doing. Well WP8 certainly is something different, I've seen less than a handful of people use Windows Phone.
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I have another full year on this thing. =/ I'm looking at selling the phone online and getting a different one, though. It's soured me on LG products, generally. Using LG's support network was horrible, and the phone itself is just too quirky.
well, I'm here for the long haul. Just upgraded in Dec, so i got a while. Hopefully PG can fix the pink screen issue in cm9. iirc, other than that its good to go. Can't wait.
KaneOfMars said:
I warrantied out of my Revo about 6 months ago into a Bionic. Have yet to have an issue with it. I'll never go LG again ... even If the rumors are true about them making a Nexus device.
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How do you warranty out of this piece of garbage? I've had mine since December and have already had to have it replaced twice for the same issue...and it's starting with the same symptoms again. (It'll start slowing down and acting goofy, not receiving texts, then it'll stop booting)
If I can't get out of it, I'm stuck with it until August before VZW will let me upgrade on contract although I'm eyeballing Craigslist for anything that's better...
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How do you warranty out of this piece of garbage? I've had mine since December and have already had to have it replaced twice for the same issue...and it's starting with the same symptoms again. (It'll start slowing down and acting goofy, not receiving texts, then it'll stop booting)
If I can't get out of it, I'm stuck with it until August before VZW will let me upgrade on contract although I'm eyeballing Craigslist for anything that's better...
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Just tell them it does it in safe mode and you want to try something else. As long as the phone is still under warranty, all you have to pay for is a new battery and battery door. Some have been able to push the issue and get into a galaxy nexus or RAZR. Usually they offer a tbolt, charge, or bionic.
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Just tell them it does it in safe mode and you want to try something else. As long as the phone is still under warranty, all you have to pay for is a new battery and battery door. Some have been able to push the issue and get into a galaxy nexus or RAZR. Usually they offer a tbolt, charge, or bionic.
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That someone was me... I warranty swapped out to a Galaxy Nexus and it cost 53 bucks for the extended battery and door. So psyched!
Good enough for now
I have two of them and they work fine for me. I'm holding off to see what new models are coming (Galaxy S4 etc), and I am going to have to buy my new phones un-subsidized because I don't intend to lose my unlimited data. I use tablets for the fun stuff and the Revolution for calls. The Revolution phones my wife and I have are working fine and rooted. The only problems I have had is that both of our batteries failed at the same time (bad batch I think). I jut bought cheap OEMs off of eBay and moved on.
I escaped from the nightmare this past week.
After three replacements, I was able to get a RAZR.
My trick was that I called up and told them I wouldn't accept another Revolution.
I insisted that I wanted to lateral into something else, or I would demand that my early termination fees be waived.
The gentleman asked what I wanted, and I said a RAZR if it's possible.
"Not a problem!"
and the rest went from there.
2/13/13 for me. Not too long, really. My main concern is keeping my unlimited data whole keeping the other two on the family plan happy. Not sure if that's going to be possible . . . Thinking about Samsung. Nexus is compelling.
Anyone here likely to spring for the upcoming LG Nexus device rumored. I'm betting not!
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I'm done with LG. Unless they release a phone with an unlocked bootloader and stock Android. Which is impossible. Samsung seems to be the company to go with atm.
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Kenpachi 91 said:
I'm done with LG. Unless they release a phone with an unlocked bootloader and stock Android. Which is impossible. Samsung seems to be the company to go with atm.
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They are doing the next nexus, so that should have an unlocked bootloader and stock Android... Unless I misunderstand what all that means.
And it won't matter who makes it. People will develop for a Nexus. It is supposed to be based on the Optimus G, which sounds like a winner, except possibly for battery life.
Be warned that when you upgrade, if you currently have unlimited data, you will lose it if you take the subsidized price with a new contract. If you pay full price and don't sign a new contract, you get to keep unlimited data. If you go that route, there's really no reason waiting on getting a new device because it will cost the same either way .
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I wish I was still under warranty. I have the insurance but don't want to pay for the replacement since my REVO went into the river for a few seconds. Works great still. Hate the fact that I bought many accessories for a phone I want to switch out now lol. Buying the Nexus for the wife. Will see if she wants to switch lol
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I'm well aware that I will lose my unlimited data. I like Android, it's just that this phone from LG has really been a subpar experience for me as my first smartphone. If I have to lose my unlimited data to have a good android device, so be it. Gotta love how Verizon thinks.
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So I work at Sprint and we finally had a Motorola Representative come down and speak to use (we sell the Photon Q which is like the droid 4 with a bigger screen). I told him about my experiences with the Droid 3 and what we were doing here. I told him about XDA's shared hatred towards Sanjay and he said he understood. He basically admitted that the Droid 3 should have never happened and that the Droid 4 was already practically made when the Droid 3 was being sold, basically because they already dumped money in to the droid 3 so they had to unload it on the consumer (Sanjay's fault). Some of the positive things he mentioned was that with the new leadership, updates are going to happen much more often and that flagship phones won't have 59 variations. Motorola will also start keeping it's promise to keep phone's up to date for 18 months as well.
I asked him about the bootloader blog debacle and he basically said that Verizon came in and put their foot down, which made them not follow through on what they said was going to happen. Actually in the end he said 90% of things are Verizon's fault (I wouldn't doubt it). They do have a huge advertising campaign that is practically paid for by Verizon, Verizon uses that to their advantage and blackmails them to do their bidding. He also mentioned that alot of his fellow employees are hoping that Google can strong arm Verizon into sitting the %#@& down and getting over themselves, allowing them to do a signed bootloader unlocking. He says that it should allow you to register your phone's ESN to MotoDev and it would then send a message back to the Verizon that the warranty is void but it would allow people to unlock the bootloader. Hardware warranty will still be covered by Moto, just not through Verizon and Asurion (unless you pay a deposit) There are a lot of angry sales people who do not like to sell Motorola phones due to their bloatware and locked boot-loader practices and Motorola knows that it isn't good for sales. He says the most common notes he sends back to HQ usually contain something about the bootloader, less motoblur, and death to Sanjay.
If you have any questions I can try to get in contact with him and see what else he has to say or if I asked him a question I forgot to put it in this post I can answer it. I grilled him for an hour.
Holy crap thanks. I hope they update us.
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Wow. So does this mean there is still hope yet?
Nope. It means that this phone is forgotten but future devices starting next quarter will be supported much better. Sorry.
This seems to confirm what we've believed all along - that the D3 was awkwardly released, from a point of view of timing; that Verizon had the contractual ability to prevent Moto from unlocking bootloaders on these phones.
"Death to Sanjay" seems silly at this point - the guy's been gone for more than 6 months.
Well, poo. Guess I better be saving money for an S3. Or maybe the S4.
doogald said:
This seems to confirm what we've believed all along - that the D3 was awkwardly released, from a point of view of timing; that Verizon had the contractual ability to prevent Moto from unlocking bootloaders on these phones.
"Death to Sanjay" seems silly at this point - the guy's been gone for more than 6 months.
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Well Death to Sanjay was the most common note this year, and I still hold him accountable for our droid 3's.
cobravnm13 said:
Well, poo. Guess I better be saving money for an S3. Or maybe the S4.
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Wait for the S4. The S4 will be out sometime in April and will have a 1080p screen, rumored to have no bezel (edge to edge display), quadcore and the unbreakable flex display, and a 13mp camera. Samsung is seriously going after the iphone with this one. This is the one I am saving for but I will end up going to Sprint due to Verizon's data plans.
Yeah, I was thinking that as well. But I'd be buying full retail.
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Yeah, I was thinking that as well. But I'd be buying full retail.
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Ugh I know how that is. It's why I got a job with Sprint. Likely you can get the S3 for 200 somewhere after Christmas.
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jesusishere said:
Ugh I know how that is. It's why I got a job with Sprint. Likely you can get the S3 for 200 somewhere after Christmas.
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That would be awesome.
It sounds like the future at Motorola will be a lot better. We've already seen the fast updates for the Razr HD and M, hopefully Motorola gets the update out to their late 2011 phones as well.
I'm looking at getting the Razr M as my phone when I can upgrade in early 2013 unless something better comes out, since its one of the few phones without a huge screen. Its already got JB and Hash has safestrap working on it, so there will be some dev support. I'll keep my Droid 3 as a spare VZW phone and to mess around with ROMs on.