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Port Iphone OS?

A lot of progress is being made as android OS has now been ported to iphone 2g and 3g. Wondering if we could do the reverse on the Nexus? Now before I get flamed or whatever, its not that I want an Iphone or think its better, just like the choice is all....
http://gizmodo.com/5533312/iphone-3g-shown-running-android

iphone os isn't open source. and, a nexus one user, why the hell would want to install iphone os ?!?

call me selfish lol never used an iphone but thought it would be cool...smh ok was a thought, back to drolling over my nexus....

Wrong section, and the last comment is correct that iPhone OS isnt' open source so we'll never see it openly available. You should learn C++ and port it for us!

I agree
One of the things, the world doesn't need: an iphone os port for nexus one xD

applications
I think the best and only reason to have the iphone OS is to have so many different applications.
I wonder if there is a way to somehow boot up iphone applications on an android phone using some sort of compatibility mode? That would be ideal and give us the best of both worlds, a crazy amount of apps and android.

the prediction is 75,000-100,000 android apps by 2010. how many more apps do you need?

This iPhone isn't completely closed source. The kernel is open, and that's likely where most of the porting work would need to go anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)

go ahead and dream, dont come crying to me when apple Legal dept rips off your head and funnels in feces from Jobs himself when you actually do port it

N31N said:
go ahead and dream, dont come crying to me when apple Legal dept rips off your head and funnels in feces from Jobs himself when you actually do port it
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Why would the OP come to you and cry? are you a lawyer?
porting another operating system to a machine that you personally own will not get you into trouble.
You can limit yourself upto only provide instructions on how to do this, and not by distributing the actual image in public, you will not get in trouble for it.
I am no lawyer but a paralegal in IP.
I would agree that this is infact a good project, and/or i would even dream of porting Winmo to have a triple boot in our (What google states as the Developers phone = Nexus one).
Don't get me wrong, Android is Awesome, but having more options is always better!
It is like a PC compared to a Playstation
In Playstation, you are limited to playing PS games.
In a PC, besides the PC games, you can also play different kind of PS, Gamecube, PS2, etc. emulators.

iphone apps
I guess the amount of iphone apps does not really apply to my desire to have a compatibility mode to run them. Just the types of apps. I'm a medical student and as the iphone has much more support on this front, I think it would be quite beneficial be able to run the apps that aren't ported over to android. I hope that things will change however and more medical applications will be made for android soon. It's just a matter of time really...

I don't want the entire iPhone OS because its stupid.. if someone could reveal their scrolling physics, it would be great....

din0_22 said:
Why would the OP come to you and cry? are you a lawyer?
porting another operating system to a machine that you personally own will not get you into trouble.
You can limit yourself upto only provide instructions on how to do this, and not by distributing the actual image in public, you will not get in trouble for it.
I am no lawyer but a paralegal in IP.
I would agree that this is infact a good project, and/or i would even dream of porting Winmo to have a triple boot in our (What google states as the Developers phone = Nexus one).
Don't get me wrong, Android is Awesome, but having more options is always better!
It is like a PC compared to a Playstation
In Playstation, you are limited to playing PS games.
In a PC, besides the PC games, you can also play different kind of PS, Gamecube, PS2, etc. emulators.
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Apples licensing agreements for their software stipulates that they only be run on specific hardware.

muncheese said:
Apples licensing agreements for their software stipulates that they only be run on specific hardware.
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Better yet, by law "Illegal Distributing of such" will be prosecuted and punishable by law.
as such, licensing agreement does not constitute unless it is being publicly distributed.
Although, realistically this port will never happen and if it will, i am not convinced that it will be very soon.

how about, FU*K the fruit maker, and do what ever we like..
only distribute an possible port in secret..?
But i really doubt this will ever happen, but an emulator or somthing similar for the apps would be NICE..

Doing so will be a giant backward step.

how about, FU*K the fruit maker, and do what ever we like..
only distribute an possible port in secret..?
But i really doubt this will ever happen, but an emulator or somthing similar for the apps would be NICE..
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how about, FU*K the fruit maker, and do what ever we like..
only distribute an possible port in secret..?
But i really doubt this will ever happen, but an emulator or somthing similar for the apps would be NICE..
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I totally agree.. I mean android market is getting bigger each day and getting more popular as verizon's advertisements for the android keeps getting better.
but, to be able to run iphone apps to our beloved nexus one will be a big achievement as there are still lots of iphone apps that i wish to be developed for Android as well, like my favorite Dakeno!
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Just because the Android Market is growing, that doesn't necessarily mean that anything is exactly getting better. Apple is still beating us in the game department, and due to their sponsors - they have apps that are like... important? Or, well, more useful to some..
I don't know if Android will ever reach that polished level the iPhone has, regarding to apps that is. I don't even play games really on my phone, if they looked up to par.. then maybe. Android is progressing, though.

Just developed a terrible rash on my taint after reading this thread. Great.
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Eclair~ said:
Just because the Android Market is growing, that doesn't necessarily mean that anything is exactly getting better. Apple is still beating us in the game department, and due to their sponsors - they have apps that are like... important? Or, well, more useful to some..
I don't know if Android will ever reach that polished level the iPhone has, regarding to apps that is. I don't even play games really on my phone, if they looked up to par.. then maybe. Android is progressing, though.
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Your comparing an OS that is in its Third/Fourth Iteration to one that is in its Second. To say that iPhone OS 2.0 was fluid and completely polished would be a huge lie. Back then, it did not have the ridiculous catalog of apps that it does now, nor was it as fast as it is now. In time, when Android reaches 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, ect, you will see Android reach a level of polish that the iPhone OS has. Right now, Android is seeing a huge increase in market-share. With this will come developers. With developers, more quality apps will come. Android has the momentum to do it. I would believe that Android will become polished by the end of the year, possibly early next year based off of its growth and progression.

is there a way to port / recompile OpenOffice for Android?

is there a way to port / recompile OpenOffice for Android?
There are a lot of good and great applications that are linux native out there.
I'm rather surprised we don't see more of those software like OpenOffice / FireFox / Thunderbird ported over for Android.
i was soooo looking forward to run those on my phone.
i know some groups are already working on a mobile version of firefox (Fennec), but there's no news about Thunderbird, and according to some stuff i read on the OpenOffice forum they don't seem very eager to port it to Android, as it took them a while to port it to MAC OS.
yet it's still a java based app... oh well...
at the moment i'm using "Docs To Go", not ideal, but it does for now, until OpenOffice comes aboard.
I've been using Docs To Go since my PalmOS days, is not bad, but is not great either.

docs to go seem to have worsen from palm to winmo to android. the android version is all flashy with smooth scrolling, pinch zoom etc but actual functionality is lacking. for eg; in the spreadsheet - editing is cumbersome, changing worksheets need few presses.
still looking for a good office suite/spreadsheet for android.

A lot of software like that is not written to run on low-powered systems (which an android phone clearly is compared to todays PCs) and Android lacks a lot of functionality that is present in complete linux kernels and so rewriting would take a major effort and few people would benefit from an open-office port (and even if, they would be minor since nobody will actually do a lot of office work on their phone).

AllGamer said:
is there a way to port / recompile OpenOffice for Android?
There are a lot of good and great applications that are linux native out there.
I'm rather surprised we don't see more of those software like OpenOffice / FireFox / Thunderbird ported over for Android.
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Unfortunately, Android is to Linux as Windows Mobile is to Windows 7. They're related, but not strictly intercompatible.
Android only really uses the Linux kernel. Practically none of the stuff that makes Linux recognisable as Linux to end-users. For Open Offic, Firefox etc to work as a simple port, you would need a whole bunch of extra stuff in Android that just isn't there. Of course, that's not stopping anyone from porting those things, but Android with X11, GTK and Gnome wouldn't really be Android anymore, would it?
Of course, I feel your pain.. I just want a simple text editor that can open and save .txt files, but I can't find one! Bah!

unfnknblvbl said:
Unfortunately, Android is to Linux as Windows Mobile is to Windows 7. They're related, but not strictly intercompatible.
Android only really uses the Linux kernel. Practically none of the stuff that makes Linux recognisable as Linux to end-users. For Open Offic, Firefox etc to work as a simple port, you would need a whole bunch of extra stuff in Android that just isn't there. Of course, that's not stopping anyone from porting those things, but Android with X11, GTK and Gnome wouldn't really be Android anymore, would it?
Of course, I feel your pain.. I just want a simple text editor that can open and save .txt files, but I can't find one! Bah!
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Linux IS only really the kernel.

kevo said:
Linux IS only really the kernel.
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Still, in this context it clearly refers to any desktop linux distribution. And that comprising isn't far off.
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It's been done
AndrOpen Office
Download: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.andropenoffice
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iOS 4 on the SGS?

Could anybody port iOS 4 to the ours SGS? They both have similar hardware
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Porting requires access to sources. Don't expect a positive answer on this thread

Similar hardware? I hope your having a joke, they are very,very different. iOS is a closed source operating system with tight security, even if you had the same hardware it would be very difficult to get it to boot.

Why would you want iOS 4 on an SGS? Not only are they are far from compatible, but the thought of iOS on an Android makes me sick. What improvements does iOS have over Android 2.2.1?

While we're porting obsolete and generally useless software, maybe we can port Donut and Cupcake.

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Could anybody port iOS 4 to the ours SGS? They both have similar hardware
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Next time, please post intelligent questions in this forum.
If you want iOS, go buy an iphone. No one will port it in an android phone but android is being ported to an iphone which just shows how superior android is.
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Oh god please no!!! I don't want a handicapped OS for my phone.

Hm. Why do you feel the need to ask if it is possible to delimb a horse and replace its legs with a bowl of nasty tasting tomatoe soup?

If you want iOS garbage then go buy an iphone4

Why do much bull**** and hate in here? Why all these elitism? We hate apple users because they believe Apple is always superior, but as I see it you guys are not so different here. If someone wants to know if ios can be ported over, it's well WITHIN his Rights to do so. No os is perfect. There are things that ios is better at.
I feel ashamed to post in the same forum as you guys.
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I don't get the strong views either, I have both, what's the problem?
In response to OP I think you already have an answer

snapper.fishes said:
Why do much bull**** and hate in here? Why all these elitism? We hate apple users because they believe Apple is always superior, but as I see it you guys are not so different here. If someone wants to know if ios can be ported over, it's well WITHIN his Rights to do so. No os is perfect. There are things that ios is better at.
I feel ashamed to post in the same forum as you guys.
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My sentiments exactly, it gets like a bear pit in here most days, it's bad enough having to mind a toddler at home all day without having to trawl through countless "keyboard warriors" taking virtual lumps out of each other.

snapper.fishes said:
Why do much bull**** and hate in here? Why all these elitism? We hate apple users because they believe Apple is always superior, but as I see it you guys are not so different here. If someone wants to know if ios can be ported over, it's well WITHIN his Rights to do so. No os is perfect. There are things that ios is better at.
I feel ashamed to post in the same forum as you guys.
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I actually lol'ed at this, no offense!

Soniak said:
Could anybody port iOS 4 to the ours SGS? They both have similar hardware
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Similar only in the crudest of senses. The SGS has a vastly superior CPU.
Regardless of this, the reason WHY you see Android being ported to all sorts of things it was never designed for (netbooks, Iphone3gs, HTC HD2, etc...) is because Android is an open platform with available source.
The reason why you do not see things like IOS or Windows Mobile being ported, is because both are closed platforms with no source.
Whether it'd be desirable to tinker with IOS on different hardware is less an issue than whether it's actually possible. Though nothing is intrinsically impossible, I wouldn't go around holding my breath on this one.

masterotaku said:
Similar only in the crudest of senses. The SGS has a vastly superior CPU.
Regardless of this, the reason WHY you see Android being ported to all sorts of things it was never designed for (netbooks, Iphone3gs, HTC HD2, etc...) is because Android is an open platform with available source.
The reason why you do not see things like IOS or Windows Mobile being ported, is because both are closed platforms with no source.
Whether it'd be desirable to tinker with IOS on different hardware is less an issue than whether it's actually possible. Though nothing is intrinsically impossible, I wouldn't go around holding my breath on this one.
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SGS has basicly the same CPU/GPU as the Iphone4 did you know? Its just clocked at 800mhz and uses GX 545 gpu while we have 550 (I think I got the numbers right) Also Samsung builds the CPU's for Apple while LG makes the screens. Anyways no biggy. On a dif topic I like how they are porting over Android to Iphone4 now (Iphone 3G/no 3GS). IF someone somehow manages to port over ios to SGS it would be shut down in a micron by Apples lawyers

PaulForde said:
Similar hardware? I hope your having a joke, they are very,very different. iOS is a closed source operating system with tight security, even if you had the same hardware it would be very difficult to get it to boot.
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Oh please don't say tight. Android are very similar in Security, maybe a bit better. I read a analysis about this yesterday on heise security. Everything big with a locked bootloader, is a meal for hackers like fail0verflow.
To the Questioner. I hope you are joking. Not only the OS is diffrent based additionally the hardware is a little better. It's not the same SOC. Maybe you should by iPhone (personified) and live in ignorance what's happening in your OS.
So don't bother, the most people do that.

Ubuntu phone os

Ubuntu just released Ubuntu phone os as see running on a galaxy nexus. This thing looks wonderful and I can wait to see it come to the nexus 4. Check this out
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3827922/ubuntu-phone-os-announcement
If it was up to me I think this is what android should evolve into even if it meant Google buying Ubuntu.
This is very well thought out is which basically uses the entire phone screen things are done through swypes and speech and everything looks like it works. The only thing may be app support.
Here is a hands on video by The Verge and Engadget
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3828266/ubuntu-phone-os-hands-on
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/

heat361 said:
Ubuntu just released Ubuntu phone os as see running on a galaxy nexus. This thing looks wonderful and I can wait to see it come to the nexus 4. Check this out
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3827922/ubuntu-phone-os-announcement
If it was up to me I think this is what android should evolve into even if it meant Google buying Ubuntu.
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Before becoming an android fan I always thought that it would be better to have a full fledge os and not what android had to offer. I would love a.port of this on my tablet. Just running a full office suite on my tab or phone is a dream come true
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danyal241 said:
Before becoming an android fan I always thought that it would be better to have a full fledge os and not what android had to offer. I would love a.port of this on my tablet. Just running a full office suite on my tab or phone is a dream come true
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This looks amazing I really think Google should purchase Ubuntu.They would have a desktop is and a phone is while they could intergrate their play store along with their core Google services.
Edit:I updated the thread with a hands on by The Verge

This is great. Thanks for sharing.

danyal241 said:
Before becoming an android fan I always thought that it would be better to have a full fledge os and not what android had to offer. I would love a.port of this on my tablet. Just running a full office suite on my tab or phone is a dream come true
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Its not a full fledged Linux OS its Ubuntu's version of a phone OS, basically Ubuntu Android. The docking mentioned in the promo sounds like the Motorola Atrix concept all over. There are developers who have ported Ubuntu to other phones but they pretty much had limited usability for lack of drivers; no wifi, data, etc. This should port over easier as it uses android drivers. Also sounds like all android apps will not work with this?

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This is great. Thanks for sharing.
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It is great there is a little lag but this is pre release software and I believe it could be easily fixed.But even with the lag on a galaxy nexus I think this would run beautifully smooth on a nexus 4.
Edit:Thread updated with engadgets hands on

kzoodroid said:
Its not a full fledged Linux OS its Ubuntu's version of a phone OS, basically Ubuntu Android. The docking mentioned in the promo sounds like the Motorola Atrix concept all over. There are developers who have ported Ubuntu to other phones but they pretty much had limited usability for lack of drivers; no wifi, data, etc. This should port over easier as it uses android drivers. Also sounds like all android apps will not work with this?
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Yep it doesn't look like android apps would work, but if they could make that work or even evolve android into something like this it would be cool.

What's the definition of "full fledged" Linux OS? We're getting close on the kernel. Otherwise install Busybox and you're there, IMO
Exactly like Ubuntu's Desktop the limitations here will be apps.. I prefer my Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux Mint + Cinnamon over all OS's including Chrome & MacOS, but the lack of apps (which isn't changing anytime soon) will be insurmountable

crachel said:
What's the definition of "full fledged" Linux OS? We're getting close on the kernel. Otherwise install Busybox and you're there, IMO
Exactly like Ubuntu's Desktop the limitations here will be apps.. I prefer my Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux Mint + Cinnamon over all OS's including Chrome & MacOS, but the lack of apps (which isn't changing anytime soon) will be insurmountable
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Yes the os is is nice and it does work, but the major downfall of this is app support and developer support;they need this to take Ubuntu phone os to the top.

kzoodroid said:
Its not a full fledged Linux OS its Ubuntu's version of a phone OS, basically Ubuntu Android. The docking mentioned in the promo sounds like the Motorola Atrix concept all over. There are developers who have ported Ubuntu to other phones but they pretty much had limited usability for lack of drivers; no wifi, data, etc. This should port over easier as it uses android drivers. Also sounds like all android apps will not work with this?
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Well, it'll obviously be a lot better when Ubuntu creates it rather than uninvolved developers, of course. Ubuntu is usually not one to disappoint.
Also, I don't really get why they skipped the Nexus 4 and went with the Galaxy Nexus. Maybe it's just cause not enough people own the Nexus 4 yet, and due to supply as well, rather than demand.

I think this should be Android based, like TouchWiz. Then we could just easily flash it like a custom ROM and all our apps would be compatible and available from GPlay.
I think I'll still try this out though, looks promising.

Did I hear that it won't come to phones until 2014?
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slimldj said:
Did I hear that it won't come to phones until 2014?
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Purchasable phones is what they meant by that. The firmware images are being released soon, which should find there way to a multitude of devices shortly.

It'll be much better than any other OS as long as it gets support, the desktop version is amazing but lack of developer support means you have to use Windows still. I'm not a fan of stock Android, Google never seem to be able to keep up, Touchwiz is so much better. So I cannot wait to see what Ubuntu will turn out like after a few revisions.

crachel said:
What's the definition of "full fledged" Linux OS? We're getting close on the kernel. Otherwise install Busybox and you're there, IMO
Exactly like Ubuntu's Desktop the limitations here will be apps.. I prefer my Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux Mint + Cinnamon over all OS's including Chrome & MacOS, but the lack of apps (which isn't changing anytime soon) will be insurmountable
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There was a dev in the Incredible forums who tried to port Ubuntu to the phone, he got it to boot and then pretty much quit. I think the same thing was also tried with the Eris back in 2010.

Was just reading multiple articles on this seems very promising
sent from one of the NEXUS twins 4 or 7.....

I am guessing its's going to be open source like openwebos(so we can port it ). Can anyone confirm that?

It's just the beginning...
Ubuntu for Android is coming next year. I did a quick article for these guys below. About half way down is the video demonstrations of Ubuntu for Android, which is separate from Ubuntu Phone from what I understand.
http://androidlexicon.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/ubuntu-for-android.html

smadger said:
Ubuntu for Android is coming next year. I did a quick article for these guys below. About half way down is the video demonstrations of Ubuntu for Android, which is separate from Ubuntu Phone from what I understand.
http://androidlexicon.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/ubuntu-for-android.html
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From what I heard they are 2 separate things,but both os can be docked to display ubuntu

leventccc said:
I am guessing its's going to be open source like openwebos(so we can port it ). Can anyone confirm that?
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Yes it will be opened source just like Ubuntu. The Ubuntu phone images should be out for the galaxy nexus in a week
Edit:for those wondering how to build apps for it or are curious about apps they have a QML toolkit read more here
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/app-ecosystem
http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/

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android, used an iphone and it becomes slow after 1.5 years.

I think that he short answer is simply NO. Even if a developer made it work it would be both illegal, as iOS is close-source and it will run very very slow. Cause iOS is designed to work exclusively with iPhones and not with every different Android Phone out there. Furthermore, iOS is made to run on the A-series processors produced by Apple.
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BrianOates said:
My humble opinion:angel:
There is no point in doing some incomprehensible operations, but it is better to choose a specific operating system
Android
I don’t respect Android at all - nothing new or original, everything has become everywhere from where you can pull off.
Windsphone (you forgot to mention )
I incredibly like their interface - extremely convenient and understandable; easy to manage and configure . !BUT! most applications are not supported, and constantly coming out and completely meaningless updates lead to terrible dependencies.
Ios
I have been using for six years. The operating system does not freeze (sometimes the flashlight dies from updates); convenient interface (which Android constantly tries to steal); a little inconvenient to set up, but you can get used.
So, ios is definitely my choice!
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Android >nothing new or original
Yeah, IOS is such innovative. Getting ****tier and ****tier, the production quality is worse than ever but the price is increasing. Thats absolutely original.
"Convenient interface which android constanlty tries to steal" Oh c'mon, nokia did this decades before both of them, you really can't think this is serious...