Android Transporter is out! - Nexus 7 General

Hey there,
I just want to tell you that Android Transporter is out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PsLb-nDXUyQ
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
I would love to check it right now. But working...
Would love to see some comments from someone who checked it out.

fryroyal said:
Hey there,
I just want to tell you that Android Transporter is out.
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
I would love to check it right now. But working...
Would love to see some comments from someone who checked it out.
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Do you actually need a projector? And a Rasperry PI?
I don't quite understand this I think

Wilks3y said:
Do you actually need a projector? And a Rasperry PI?
I don't quite understand this I think
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It`s like a self made Nexus Q.
The Raspi is essential.
Every Screen would work which has a component or HDMI interface.
I think as long no Miracast or Nexus Q is available ìt`s awesome.

fryroyal said:
It`s like a self made Nexus Q.
The Raspi is essential.
Every Screen would work which has a component or HDMI interface.
I think as long no Miracast or Nexus Q is available ìt`s awesome.
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I would be willing to get a Rasperry pi to do it, but could you put a HDMI cable into the rasperry, and then plug that into the TV and do it that way?
Or is the Projector essential also?
THANKS MATE !

fryroyal said:
It`s like a self made Nexus Q.
The Raspi is essential.
Every Screen would work which has a component or HDMI interface.
I think as long no Miracast or Nexus Q is available ìt`s awesome.
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Is it really the same as the Nexus Q? My reason for wanting to buy a Nexus Q (which isn't available in the UK), is as a party jukebox music hub, but reading the Android Transformer website, it doesn't seem to do much other than movie streaming...
The closest I have found is PlayMySong Android app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playmysong.android&hl=en
However it's in rather a poor state of repair, the dev, a hipster it seems, focusing on Spotify...
Anyone know any alternatives?

What with miracast?

Wilks3y said:
I would be willing to get a Rasperry pi to do it, but could you put a HDMI cable into the rasperry, and then plug that into the TV and do it that way?
Or is the Projector essential also?
THANKS MATE !
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No projector needed. Any display with hdmi would do it too. Even old tv`s would work bacause of the component interface of the raspberry.
CrazyPeter said:
Is it really the same as the Nexus Q? My reason for wanting to buy a Nexus Q (which isn't available in the UK), is as a party jukebox music hub, but reading the Android Transformer website, it doesn't seem to do much other than movie streaming...
The closest I have found is PlayMySong Android app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playmysong.android&hl=en
However it's in rather a poor state of repair, the dev, a hipster it seems, focusing on Spotify...
Anyone know any alternatives?
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No it`s not the same as the Nexus Q. It`s just streaming the screen content from your nexus 7 to a display.

fryroyal said:
No projector needed. Any display with hdmi would do it too. Even old tv`s would work bacause of the component interface of the raspberry.
No it`s not the same as the Nexus Q. It`s just streaming the screen content from your nexus 7 to a display.
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Great thanks bud, currently bidding on a Raspberry Pi as we Speak

why do i need an extra firmware on my N7?
some software for windows/linux would be fine - already have a htpc.

I prefer using the YouTube app on the ps3 control by the nexus 7
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You need extra firmware because they are trying to get the lowest latency possible so it just being an app wouldn't do. Although they didn't mention gaming in the youtube demo so I assume in it's first version it isn't capable of that yet.
I'm hoping they (or someone) can make a patch for other roms and I also hope this becomes a common feature for all roms.
Yes this is very similar to miracast and they even said when the miracast spec is finalized, they will modify this to be in spec.
Yes you currently need a raspberry pi, but they might write a linux client down the road. Hopefully other projects start on that, maybe a windows client too.

cant you just twonky your photos/vids onto your tv

sark666 said:
You need extra firmware because they are trying to get the lowest latency possible so it just being an app wouldn't do.
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Ah ok, thank you!

I talked to the devs a couple months ago when it was only working on the Nexus S. They said you can capture the stream using VLC as well, but it is complicated to set up.
When I get my replacement N7 I'm definitely working on that!
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I'm surprised some people are dismissing this. The nexus Q only streams content that you have in google play, it streams nothing from your actual device. Twonky et al stream stuff to a media capable device (e.g ps3) in formats that the receiving device support. Your ps3 can't play that mkv file? Well it's not playing. ps3 doesn't support the subs you have? You're not going to see them. Want to stream a game to your ps3/tv? Not happening.
Think of this more like wireless hdmi. Whatever is on your device you can stream to your large display. It's basically miracast but it's available now. In their earlier demos they demo'd streaming games but I guess/assume they haven't gotten the latency low enough yet.
And as another mentioned, you may be able to stream to a pc with vlc or another player. The main thing is hardware decoding on the pc end for lowest latency. Not sure what decoder chip the pi has but if that was in a pc already, it would make a port easier. So down the road, a pi wouldn't even be needed, not for streaming to a pc hooked up to a large display anyway.
Two things bugged me about the nexus 7: no hdmi and no sdslot. This would solve one of those issues.
Again, I hope this spreads to the other roms and becomes a default option that all of them have.
I was reading more on their website and the current transmit time is around 200 ms which is a little disappointing for games anyway. But another cool featue is it utilizes android beam to stream to another android device.

I have the same functionality with my Galaxy Note 10.1 to my Samsung LED TV... It's a cool feature.

I've already got two Raspberry Pi's... will be looking at this tonight.
See it clears the Nexus 7 but not sure if that is the unlocking of the bootloader (which is already done by me) or also the software. Will look when I get more time.
Got the RPi's for this function originally!

this is cool right now i send youtube/etc from n7 to my rasbpi xbmc using the yatse remote app...
hope they build this into one of the pi xbmc builds...
Sent from my Nexus 7

This cements my decision to buy a Rasp Pi, don't forget to update the firmware to allow official overclocking!
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008
Lastly, does anybody know if it upscales to 1080p, or is limited to the Nexus's default resolution?

It would be interesting if it could upscale to a higher resolution but I kind of doubt it. My understanding is it's basically making a video on the fly of whats on your screen and then decoded on the other end. So I would think it would be 1:1 regarding resolution. However, it would be nice if there was a option to lower resolution to try and lower latency or increase framerate for gaming. Might not hurt the image too much although text might appear more fuzzy. But there may be a performance penalty simply by scaling the source image.
I don't currently have a pi yet but if anyone has tried it let us know how it went.
Oh, and I didn't notice you can already use this with vlc
vlc rtsp://<Asus-Nexus-7-IP-Address>:9000/android.sdp.
Too bad it doesn't transmit sound yet. Hmm, I do wish it was an app but understand why it's built into the rom. Given this was released same day as 4.1.2 I assume this is built on 4.1.1 but I don't see that mentioned on their site.

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Wireless Mirroring

Hello y'all,
I'm a school teacher and the school just bought me a Nexus7 and I LOVE IT! I'm here because I use Power Point everyday and I was wondering if there is an accessory or a way to connect my Tablet to my HDMI projector wirelessly, so I can slid through my solids on my tablet. Any help would be great.
Thanks Guys!
Mirroring just isn't possible on the N7 currently :crying:
can you use the bluetooth to do a remote desktop with a laptop that is hooked up to the projector?
just a suggestion
I know this isn't exactly what you are looking for but if you can get a computer connected to the projector and the n7 on the same network there are several good PC remote apps. I used andremote for a long time and was happy with it.
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You can use Splashtop Remote Desktop from the Play store
Look at mirrorop in market.
U can mirror nexus on a PC, or on another tablet/one.
I mirrored my Xoom to nexus7 and had xoom connected to TV so I had the Xoom screen on my TV and my nexus 7 and full control of xoom from my 7.
Check it out
http://db.tt/4o3GOC6n
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Miracast
if you have a pc connected to the display http://pptremotecontrol.com/ is great for Power Point presentations on the android device you can see the slide and notes, control the presentation and a virtual pointer on the screen.
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Miracast
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Just a protocol, you need software and hardware that uses it.
Lot of good suggestions so far but they all require another expensive computer or tablet. The easy solution that being a simple hardware device that listens on WiFi and connects to an HDMI video device without another computer that the Nexus 7 can talk to.
For a teacher, business, home user, you plug this device into any HDMI video device and play, images, video, whatever you have on the screen.
It's coming, but not here yet.
Sent from my Nexus 7
You might want to consider a device like this the infinitec pocket tv http://shop.infinitec.com/ is is not a method to let you use your nexus but it is a android device with a hdmi output and a remote control. easy to carry and a lot less expensive than a pc.
krelvinaz said:
Just a protocol, you need software and hardware that uses it.
Lot of good suggestions so far but they all require another expensive computer or tablet. The easy solution that being a simple hardware device that listens on WiFi and connects to an HDMI video device without another computer that the Nexus 7 can talk to.
For a teacher, business, home user, you plug this device into any HDMI video device and play, images, video, whatever you have on the screen.
It's coming, but not here yet.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Miracast will be your best option when available
NotablyNice said:
Miracast will be your best option when available
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Miracast is JUST a protocol. It is not an app, or a program. It is a standard that a number of hardware vendors are collaborating on. You need software and hardware that supports the protocol to use it.
Decent article on it:
http://arstechnica.com/information-...-promises-video-streaming-without-the-router/
krelvinaz said:
Miracast is JUST a protocol. It is not an app, or a program. It is a standard that a number of hardware vendors are collaborating on. You need software and hardware that supports the protocol to use it.
Decent article on it:
http://arstechnica.com/information-...-promises-video-streaming-without-the-router/
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.... I give up hope for humanity's stupidity
Tegra 3 already supports miracast, just needs to be enabled in the FIRMWARE. Most tvs in 2013 will support it without hardware dongle but a dongle will be a available for your HDMI slot. No different than using mhl cable with HDMI cable except, oh wait, this solution is wireless...
runandhide05 said:
Look at mirrorop in market.
U can mirror nexus on a PC, or on another tablet/one.
I mirrored my Xoom to nexus7 and had xoom connected to TV so I had the Xoom screen on my TV and my nexus 7 and full control of xoom from my 7.
Check it out
http://db.tt/4o3GOC6n
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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Wow, works pretty cool, streaming video kind of stunk lol very laggy, but power point worked quite well actually.
Im going to keep trying out all your ideas guys, thanks for all the suggestions, you all have been a huge huge help!
socjdqcer said:
Wow, works pretty cool, streaming video kind of stunk lol very laggy, but power point worked quite well actually.
Im going to keep trying out all your ideas guys, thanks for all the suggestions, you all have been a huge huge help!
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Don't use my example which was very ****ty streaming video that was soly to do with the fact that I'm repo syncing on tow boxes..lol
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eodelf said:
You can use Splashtop Remote Desktop from the Play store
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+1
Splashtop is so responsive I use it to game on.
hottbill said:
+1
Splashtop is so responsive I use it to game on.
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Have fun paying a subscription to use it..
serchend said:
You might want to consider a device like this the infinitec pocket tv http://shop.infinitec.com/ is is not a method to let you use your nexus but it is a android device with a hdmi output and a remote control. easy to carry and a lot less expensive than a pc.
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Im looking into this as we speak.
Thanks
NotablyNice said:
Have fun paying a subscription to use it..
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where r u getting your info... splash top is a pay once for the app and that's it.
desktop utilities (streaming server and remote access) are free.
now splashtop2 costs a subscription
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runandhide05 said:
where r u getting your info... splash top is a pay once for the app and that's it.
desktop utilities (streaming server and remote access) are free.
now splashtop2 costs a subscription
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You're likely not to receive future updates. They are pushing users to the "free" Splashtop 2 app. Ipad users get lifetime anywhere pack. Android users don't. Splashtop has lost credibility and wouldn't touch their crap even with your devices.

Question about Pi & android

Hi all, Question:
Is Pi (B) and android stable and powerful enough to use as a good android tv setup for netflix and otherstuff?
I am debating on getting a "smart" tv or just adding android to my tv
Not yet, but hopefully soon!
tjsooley said:
Hi all, Question:
Is Pi (B) and android stable and powerful enough to use as a good android tv setup for netflix and otherstuff?
I am debating on getting a "smart" tv or just adding android to my tv
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Not yet. RaspberryPi.org have announced 4.0/4.1 is working, but they're waiting to release it until they get audio working properly. So far it's been a few months and nothing. All other projects currently can't access GPU and are slow as molasses.
If you can hold off on getting a smart TV, I think that we'll soon see Android working smoothly on the Pi. Hope this helps!
dreadpirate15 said:
Not yet. RaspberryPi.org have announced 4.0/4.1 is working, but they're waiting to release it until they get audio working properly. So far it's been a few months and nothing. All other projects currently can't access GPU and are slow as molasses.
If you can hold off on getting a smart TV, I think that we'll soon see Android working smoothly on the Pi. Hope this helps!
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Thanks I really think this will be Much cooler than a stupid "smart tv".
Just ordered my PI fro Allied on back order
Smart TVs are really dumb, somedays ago I saw one of that "usb media centers" running android. I really want to buy one and hope that rPi runs it nice too!
ar4gorn said:
Smart TVs are really dumb, somedays ago I saw one of that "usb media centers" running android. I really want to buy one and hope that rPi runs it nice too!
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Actually, those "usb media centers" you're talking about, are full-fledged Android system with it's own processor and chipset. Of course it'll work with Raspberry Pi, as long as it can boot externally from the usb. Fortunately for you, a $79 usb system is already available with specifications similar to Samsung Galaxy S, plus Mali-400MP GPU.
And Smart TVs, are in fact, not dumb. They were made for people who are either very rich moneybags, or people who likes to slack off doing nothing besides looking at the TV.
hiu115 said:
Actually, those "usb media centers" you're talking about, are full-fledged Android system with it's own processor and chipset. Of course it'll work with Raspberry Pi, as long as it can boot externally from the usb. Fortunately for you, a $79 usb system is already available with specifications similar to Samsung Galaxy S, plus Mali-400MP GPU.
And Smart TVs, are in fact, not dumb. They were made for people who are either very rich moneybags, or people who likes to slack off doing nothing besides looking at the TV.
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I at least was not referring to the usb media centers. I was referring to the samsung tv's that have crippled android on them

Anyone else looking forward to Turning Chromecast into the new Pi / XBMC stick.

topic.
I, for one, am paying close attention to any functionality like this to surface, then it'll truly meet my needs.
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littleemp said:
topic.
I, for one, am paying close attention to any functionality like this to surface, then it'll truly meet my needs.
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I would love xbmc on it. i have an old dell as my htpc and my pi as my tv computer. id love it!
I want this too.
Some people say to just get a pi but what they don't understand is with a pi which is 35$ alone you still don't get an SD card, wireless adapter, HDMI cord or even a case. Not to mention iirc Chrome cast is clocked 300Mhz higher than the raspberry with even lower power consumption.
thatbigmoose said:
I want this too.
Some people say to just get a pi but what they don't understand is with a pi which is 35$ alone you still don't get an SD card, wireless adapter, HDMI cord or even a case. Not to mention iirc Chrome cast is clocked 300Mhz higher than the raspberry with even lower power consumption.
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damn. We need someone on this stat!
Lookin forward to replacing my original xbox with this, for my new xbmc media player...
littleemp said:
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I, for one, am paying close attention to any functionality like this to surface, then it'll truly meet my needs.
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Same thing here. This is really why I bought one.
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I cant wait for this. As soon as this happens I will buy a chromecast for all the tvs in the house
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Cast Xmbc over Chromecast using Avia Player
Hi,
You can now cast XMBC over Chromecast using Avia Player($2.99 Addon Charge). A video tutorial is up on You Tube.
Using Smartphone - XMBC can be watched over Chromecast through Avia Player which costs $2.99. YouTube Video shows how.
http://youtu.be/vS-7hwYe4nw
Using Computer - XMBC can be watched over Chromecast through Avia Player which costs $2.99. YouTube Video shows how.
http://youtu.be/NCgP0r5Dvp8
Good Luck
It will never be a XBMC stick...
What you might get though is have XBMC stream to it and support other DIAL devices, once the XBMC devs stop being stubborn and listen to what their Users have been asking for.
They seem to think DIAL isn't worth supporting since they already support UPnP.
Asphyx said:
It will never be a XBMC stick...
What you might get though is have XBMC stream to it and support other DIAL devices, once the XBMC devs stop being stubborn and listen to what their Users have been asking for.
They seem to think DIAL isn't worth supporting since they already support UPnP.
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My Rockchip MK808 stick runs XBMC and Cheapcast..indeed most Android phones you might have lying around collecting dust will do. I don't use it much, but the wife loves her Android games on the big xcreen.
wideasleep1 said:
My Rockchip MK808 stick runs XBMC and Cheapcast..indeed most Android phones you might have lying around collecting dust will do. I don't use it much, but the wife loves her Android games on the big xcreen.
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Your Rockchip Stick has everything needed to navigate/control it via BT Same with Phones...CCast has none of this.
Whats more is the fact that Source compatibility is going to be a real problem there, You can't store content on the CCast and while reading from a network source is possible that source had better be CCast compatible or it won't play well.
But even if you manage to get past all those hurdles you have one bigger issue to contend with that you can't really solve....
Google will never Whitelist it as it does not conform to their UI Guidelines at all.
I would much rather see XBMC add the ability to send content to DIAL devices because the PC/MAC/LINUX versions of XBMC could easily add Transcoding to their system if they wanted to and remove the source compatibility issue and it would allow two people in the house to watch the same content on different TVs.
Asphyx said:
Your Rockchip Stick has everything needed to navigate/control it via BT Same with Phones...CCast has none of this.
Whats more is the fact that Source compatibility is going to be a real problem there, You can't store content on the CCast and while reading from a network source is possible that source had better be CCast compatible or it won't play well.
But even if you manage to get past all those hurdles you have one bigger issue to contend with that you can't really solve....
Google will never Whitelist it as it does not conform to their UI Guidelines at all.
I would much rather see XBMC add the ability to send content to DIAL devices because the PC/MAC/LINUX versions of XBMC could easily add Transcoding to their system if they wanted to and remove the source compatibility issue and it would allow two people in the house to watch the same content on different TVs.
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Well that's no surprise really. I'm still somewhat surprised folks want so much from what amounts to a hdmi-alternative wireless dongle. Sure it's handy and works great for the services it currently supports (tab casting aside..simply atrocious for me) and it's dirt cheap to be a no brainer. But to get real server services requires an entirely different approach: a front end/back end and expandable, stable database. CC ain't gonna take us there.
wideasleep1 said:
Well that's no surprise really. I'm still somewhat surprised folks want so much from what amounts to a hdmi-alternative wireless dongle. Sure it's handy and works great for the services it currently supports (tab casting aside..simply atrocious for me) and it's dirt cheap to be a no brainer. But to get real server services requires an entirely different approach: a front end/back end and expandable, stable database. CC ain't gonna take us there.
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It's the age-old conundrum - specialized device, or general-purpose device?
It's like getting a dishwasher versus a housekeeper.
Dishwasher is predictable and doesn't ask for a raise or days off but it won't wash or fold your clothes.
Housekeeper can wash dishes and wash and fold clothes, but might ask for a raise or days off.
The best solution really depends on the individual situation.
wideasleep1 said:
Well that's no surprise really. I'm still somewhat surprised folks want so much from what amounts to a hdmi-alternative wireless dongle. Sure it's handy and works great for the services it currently supports (tab casting aside..simply atrocious for me) and it's dirt cheap to be a no brainer. But to get real server services requires an entirely different approach: a front end/back end and expandable, stable database. CC ain't gonna take us there.
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Yeah I guess some folks don't realize the limitations of this device and how in some cases Less is actually more!
The simplicity of how CCast works makes it much more versatile than Miracast or DLNA Dongles,
But something like XBMC or Plex frontends which requires saving files and a Database will never be one of those things it does well.
And that doesn't even address the Navigation issues. The whole point of CCast is to make a device you can display to (Like Miracast) while off loading Power, and Navigation to another device that is much easier to write code for but doesn't require tying up the device to display (Like Miracast) a very targeted solution to a very specific problem.
bhiga said:
It's the age-old conundrum - specialized device, or general-purpose device?
It's like getting a dishwasher versus a housekeeper.
Dishwasher is predictable and doesn't ask for a raise or days off but it won't wash or fold your clothes.
Housekeeper can wash dishes and wash and fold clothes, but might ask for a raise or days off.
The best solution really depends on the individual situation.
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Just like you can run Plex off a RasPi or NAS but neither is actually a very good option to run a media server from due to the Transcoding power requirements that usually require far more power than a Pi or NAS can give you.
There are two schools of thought here....
One side wants something they can navigate and control their TV with (Lets call them the Navigators). They just want a device that will give them a better interface than their Smart TV has (Roku, GoogleTV, XBMC Etc...) or want something to make a dumb TV smart. CCast doesn't take that approach at all
The other side I'll call the ROUTERS or maybe the Remote Controllers (and I guess I am in this Group) are looking for LESS Navigation and more Mobile Device integration in the same way we have Smart Houses being controlled by our Mobile devices. I don't want to go through navigation of Menus just to see something on a particular display I would prefer to use the same controls for ALL devices and merely rout signals where I want them without having to SET UP the device I wish to display on.
Just like in a Smart House I can set the temp of one room while sitting in another I should be able to display things on a TV in another room from the same screen I am using to control the display in the room I'm in.
Essentially routing Media throughout my house the same way I do to Monitors in my production truck or TV Studio.
Imagine if I had to go to every monitor in my studio, Hit Menu, Select the app before I could get the signal I wanted on the Monitor. That seems to be what the Navigators want.
Me I don't ever want to have to change a thing on the Monitor just rout my signal to it and have it display it.
This is essentially what DIAL and the CCast is all about.
Asphyx said:
Yeah I guess some folks don't realize the limitations of this device and how in some cases Less is actually more!
The simplicity of how CCast works makes it much more versatile than Miracast or DLNA Dongles,
But something like XBMC or Plex frontends which requires saving files and a Database will never be one of those things it does well.
And that doesn't even address the Navigation issues. The whole point of CCast is to make a device you can display to (Like Miracast) while off loading Power, and Navigation to another device that is much easier to write code for but doesn't require tying up the device to display (Like Miracast) a very targeted solution to a very specific problem.
Just like you can run Plex off a RasPi or NAS but neither is actually a very good option to run a media server from due to the Transcoding power requirements that usually require far more power than a Pi or NAS can give you.
There are two schools of thought here....
One side wants something they can navigate and control their TV with (Lets call them the Navigators). They just want a device that will give them a better interface than their Smart TV has (Roku, GoogleTV, XBMC Etc...) or want something to make a dumb TV smart. CCast doesn't take that approach at all
The other side I'll call the ROUTERS or maybe the Remote Controllers (and I guess I am in this Group) are looking for LESS Navigation and more Mobile Device integration in the same way we have Smart Houses being controlled by our Mobile devices. I don't want to go through navigation of Menus just to see something on a particular display I would prefer to use the same controls for ALL devices and merely rout signals where I want them without having to SET UP the device I wish to display on.
Just like in a Smart House I can set the temp of one room while sitting in another I should be able to display things on a TV in another room from the same screen I am using to control the display in the room I'm in.
Essentially routing Media throughout my house the same way I do to Monitors in my production truck or TV Studio.
Imagine if I had to go to every monitor in my studio, Hit Menu, Select the app before I could get the signal I wanted on the Monitor. That seems to be what the Navigators want.
Me I don't ever want to have to change a thing on the Monitor just rout my signal to it and have it display it.
This is essentially what DIAL and the CCast is all about.
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Yep...I only see the CC as and 'end" device. To introduce feature creep would complicate and obscure its real value. API release and further app development will be all the enhancement it needs. Clear purpose market wise, solid community support=widespread success. Let the specialists do their thing.
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wideasleep1 said:
Yep...I only see the CC as and 'end" device. To introduce feature creep would complicate and obscure its real value. API release and further app development will be all the enhancement it needs. Clear purpose market wise, solid community support=widespread success. Let the specialists do their thing.
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Yup!
For my usage, I don't need YAR (Yet Another Remote) - I already have a HTPC, but Chromecast's interface as an extension of apps I already use is much more convenient.
wideasleep1 said:
Yep...I only see the CC as and 'end" device. To introduce feature creep would complicate and obscure its real value. API release and further app development will be all the enhancement it needs. Clear purpose market wise, solid community support=widespread success. Let the specialists do their thing.
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For years in broadcast we have used a sort of networked transmission called "The Switch" it was little more than a network router that you could send video to any TV network on "The Switch Network".
TVs are in my mind a destination for content and it doesn't really matter what kind of content it is (Music, Web, Video, Pics). CCast can turn a TV into a destination. Until TV Manfs get on board and see this is the best way to send digital signals all over the place (by Pushing instead of Pulling) the CCast will at least get the concept rolling until those Manufacturers catch up. I know for a fact Sony would LOVE to get rid of their Smart Interface department because it generates little to no revenue and is constantly having to keep up and upgrading TVs that were already bought and sold. In time whatever money they made off the TV will be spent supporting it's Smart interface to keep up with User Demand for apps when if they merely supported DIAL they wouldn't need any SMART interface at all!
Thats kind of where I hope CCast (and DIAL standard) is taking us!
bhiga said:
Yup!
For my usage, I don't need YAR (Yet Another Remote) - I already have a HTPC, but Chromecast's interface as an extension of apps I already use is much more convenient.
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It's funny how the first wireless remotes used light to control but were then abandoned for Radio devices which were then Abandoned for IR (Light again) only to be usurped again by Radio in the form of WiFi! LOL
As they say what goes around comes around! LOL
There isn't a universal remote that can be bought that would be as versatile as my Tablet or Phone is....
Turning my Chromecast into my XBMC machine is literally why I logged into XDA today. GOGOGO!!!!
I can't wait for that. I currently play everything off an HTPC but if I don't ever need to turn it on again, good.
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It's funny how the first wireless remotes used light to control but were then abandoned for Radio devices which were then Abandoned for IR (Light again) only to be usurped again by Radio in the form of WiFi! LOL
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Indeed... I actually had a TV that used a sonic remote, I think it might've been Zenith.
When I printed graphics using my dot-matrix* printer, certain graphics would change the channel. It was freaky at first, and pretty funny afterward.
* Kids, look that one up or go to an automotive dealership that still uses carbon-copy forms.
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There isn't a universal remote that can be bought that would be as versatile as my Tablet or Phone is....
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:good: Indeed! Harmony is close but not as slick as native control. Hard to get more native than building it into Google Play Services!
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Indeed... I actually had a TV that used a sonic remote, I think it might've been Zenith.
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LOL Yes It was a Zenith....I remember My Uncle could change the channel by Whistling! Would drive my great Grandmother Nuts!

Google Posts Massive User Experience Guide For Chromecast Developers

Hi this is great news! Chromecast is getting its turn with a brand new User Experience Guide!
I read this article in androidpolice.com in this link:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...lopers-still-no-word-on-the-whitelist-policy/
The guide is here:
https://developers.google.com/cast/design_consider
Google Cast is a technology that allows Android and iOS mobile apps and Chrome web apps to “cast” content - like video, audio, and screen sharing (mirroring) - to Cast-ready devices like Google Chromecast.
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(Emphasis added)
Screen sharing must be coming!!
bhiga said:
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Screen sharing must be coming!!
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Koush saw it in the source code of KitKat so yes it will be coming but it may be restricted. and dependent on the Unit Manufacturer for implementation.
Which suggests it may not work for apps (they would use the current methods) and be a Device and ROM specific feature.
The fact that it will be possible will make those restriction more like Guidelines than rules once Devs get their hands on how it works.
I am loving where this is all going! As I always say..it is only a matter of time.
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I am loving where this is all going! As I always say..it is only a matter of time.
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Amen!
Also the guide makes it clear that the current Chromecast is only one implementation. I think the rumors of a Nexus TV being announced early next year are probably true and it will include native Cast support.
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Also the guide makes it clear that the current Chromecast is only one implementation. I think the rumors of a Nexus TV being announced early next year are probably true and it will include native Cast support.
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Yes I can see some Smart TVs adding this capability natively at some point. Biggest user complaint they get is they hate the Menu and navigation on the TV and this might make it easier to create an App that would do all this for their TVs in a much better way!
The good news on this Google release is it seems to suggest the SDK is about to drop to the FULL PUBLIC...
It was invitation only before the Hackathon and I think the Hackathon was really meant to test the SDK to see if it was ready for Public consumption...
Once it goes full public expect to see a FLOOD of Apps supporting CCast maybe even Games where the video displays on the TV but the phone or tablet just has control functions. Would open the door to much more sophisticated control options in the vain of what PC has been able to do via it's keyboard.
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Yes I can see some Smart TVs adding this capability natively at some point. Biggest user complaint they get is they hate the Menu and navigation on the TV and this might make it easier to create an App that would do all this for their TVs in a much better way!
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Yes, indeed. Lately, I have found myself wanting to use YouTube more and more on a big screen and, even though my TV is only 2 years old, navigating to the TV app is a painful experience.
I bought my Chromecast specifically for YouTube and for me it was worth the $35 just to be able to access it without having to trawl through the clunky TV menus Everything that came last week and the features still to come have been a has been a great bonus .
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Yes, indeed. Lately, I have found myself wanting to use YouTube more and more on a big screen and, even though my TV is only 2 years old, navigating to the TV app is a painful experience.
I bought my Chromecast specifically for YouTube and for me it was worth the $35 just to be able to access it without having to trawl through the clunky TV menus Everything that came last week and the features still to come have been a has been a great bonus .
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I tell my friends that if they can find one to avoid buying a smart TV since there are so many better ways to get that capability including just hooking a Computer to the Monitor.
But try and find a TV without it! LOL

kodi

Is it possible to install kodi nativity on the Chromecast 2 so I can run it directly from the stick instead of using my phone to stream
Nope!
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Nope!
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I've not tried, but why would sideload not work?
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tdhite said:
I've not tried, but why would sideload not work?
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Because there is no way to sideload anything into the unit...It has virtually no place to put apps.
CCast is really just a glorified Chrome Browser when you get right down to it. When you cast something to it, It loads up a webpage (player/receiver app) that has the code to play the content you sent. That is why it requires internet connection to operate because it needs to be able to access those URLs to load it's player apps.
I doubt the CCast even has enough storage space built into it to run Kodi.
It's very different from a FireTV which is basically just an Android stick device with a Amazon branded Launcher.
If you want Kodi you are better off with one of those cheap AMLOGIC 905 Android boxes. You get a remote, can expand the storage capacity with an SD Card, and get a full Android to run any APK you want including Netflix and Hulu. If you shop around you can find them for just a few dollars more than a CCast costs.
PLUS most units are compatible with Win10 Cast To Device feature.
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Because there is no way to sideload anything into the unit...It has virtually no place to put apps.
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Yea, was thinking of my tv, which sideloads just fine.
With that said, there is apparently a reasonable way to cast kodi, though still seems just screencasting.
http://www.alphr.com/google/google-...on-a-chromecast-heres-how-to-stream-kodi-with
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Yea, was thinking of my tv, which sideloads just fine.
With that said, there is apparently a reasonable way to cast kodi:
http://www.alphr.com/google/google-...on-a-chromecast-heres-how-to-stream-kodi-with
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Your TV probably runs AndroidTV which is very much like FireTV in that it is running a full android operating system with a custom loader. Unfortunately even AndroidTV has some limitations in the Play Store of what apps you can put on it which is why it hasn't sold very well.
Not that you can avoid it these days, but I advise my friends to ignore all the smart features when buying a TV and just look for the best bang for buck on resolution and picture quality. If you want a smart TV it is much better to buy an external box which can be upgraded easily without having to wait for the manufacturer to catch up to current tech.
There was a time where you could get a great TV sans any Smart capabilities without paying the SMART TV premium but today just about all TVs have some smart built in. They rarely get updated, Rarely get the same support as native Android does and eventually that processor will be too slow to run the latest and greatest software.
TV can last years and still work but how many have an Android device that is over 5 years old and still useable?
I say find the dumbest TV you can find that has a great picture and add whatever smarts you want externally!
They are even selling TV mounting hardware to hide the box and wiring!
Thank you for the input, getting my old Nexus 5 setup to be the streaming device to cast kodi to Chromecast.
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Thank you for the input, getting my old Nexus 5 setup to be the streaming device to cast kodi to Chromecast.
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Does the N5 have an HDMI output? (I think it does with an adapter...
You could just plug that into the TV and add Kodi to it. Then use any Kodi remote (like the Official or Yatse) to control the device from your current phone.
You wouldn't even need the ccast then.
Yup Hdmi compatible I just have to order a cable with charging capability on it
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Yup Hdmi compatible I just have to order a cable with charging capability on it
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I think any Powered OTG cable will do for that purpose.

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