Non removable battery - Nexus 4 General

I'm surprised to see not much talk of this, as for me it's the biggest hang up with this awesome device (second is no sd slot). I find it extremely handy to have a removable battery because 1) I don't have to worry about being super careful about how I treat the battery as replacements are usually fairly cheap and 2) it opens up the possibility of larger 3rd party batteries. What's everyone's thoughts on this?
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Oh there has been PLENTY of talk about this.
That's the trend, removal batteries are going bye bye. Whether it's removal or not, the important question is whether or not it is possible at all to get at the battery slot. Have to watch a few tear down videos.

The iPhone 4/4s didn't have a removable battery either per say... yet you could easily do it yourself.

doesnt bother me.. i think the phone pricing already gave us justice

this is a make or break issue for me aswell. Will the wireless charging orb hold a charge so I can put it in my bag when im travelling and connect it with n4 without the need for any sockets?
if not are there any third party softwares that can allow something small which can recharge battery without any connections?
thanks

jeromejones said:
this is a make or break issue for me aswell. Will the wireless charging orb hold a charge so I can put it in my bag when im travelling and connect it with n4 without the need for any sockets?
if not are there any third party softwares that can allow something small which can recharge battery without any connections?
thanks
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No, the inductive charger must be plugged into the wall. The only benefit of an inductive charger is not having to make any physical connection to the phone every time you charge.

GoodnessofL said:
doesnt bother me.. i think the phone pricing already gave us justice
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This.
I was blown away when they first sold the Galaxy Nexus for $349... now to have a much better phone for $299 and $349 options is absolutely insane!
drumist said:
No, the inductive charger must be plugged into the wall. The only benefit of an inductive charger is not having to make any physical connection to the phone every time you charge.
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I loved the convenience of inductive charging when I was trying out WebOS! Can't wait to have that thing on a Nexus :victory:

Guess I'll be skipping this Nexus.
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ap3604 said:
This.
I was blown away when they first sold the Galaxy Nexus for $349... now to have a much better phone for $299 and $349 options is absolutely insane!
I loved the convenience of inductive charging when I was trying out WebOS! Can't wait to have that thing on a Nexus :victory:
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Saves on USB wear and tear... I'm down! I think that the USB port is probably the weakest link in all cellphones.

drumist said:
No, the inductive charger must be plugged into the wall. The only benefit of an inductive charger is not having to make any physical connection to the phone every time you charge.
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just plug the inductive charger into this and carry it around with ya ;P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842111144

Apple boasts about new Lightning connector. Google took it to the next step - no.cable.
Hands down.

lighting port was just such a terrible idea. -_-

We will have to see what real life battery life is like.
2100mha battery does not last a full day now. I tend to swap if I'm using my phone during work and need to use it at night.
Nothing mentioned in all the fancy features about awesome battery life....

Although not being able to remove the battery is annoying, I say introducing inductive charging to the Nexus line makes up for some of it.

too bad you still have to plug it in to transfer info to a computer. For that, I like the lightning port. Micro usb is annoying and so so fragile.

Element515 said:
too bad you still have to plug it in to transfer info to a computer. For that, I like the lightning port. Micro usb is annoying and so so fragile.
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I know what you mean, but for some files depending on the size of them I have started to use bluetooth file transferring.

This is a huge concern for me as well. Spare batteries are cheap and you never have to worry about your phone dying.
However, the price is too good to pass up considering how it looks and the amazing specs it has.

Not to mention, on jellybean, my phones battery life has been phenomenal.
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Best solution for batteries that die out during the day's usage? Buy a second Nexus 4! You know, since they're so cheap and all.

No battery removable battery and no sd card tells me hmmm maybe but its still designed by LG. Thats what i really hate. But at that price. I may buy it and use it as an ipod touch lol

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WARNING!

I got stupid and bought an after-market power adapter for my Nexus from -- where else? -- eBay. I've bought a bunch of stuff from these guys before and everything worked as advertised. http://tinyw.in/d5b9 Not so with this!! In fact, I'm lucky to have anything left of a tablet. I plugged it in to "top it off" and it read 87% I came back three hours later to an N7 that was so hot I could barely hold it and the meter said 17%!!! I'm hoping it hasn't damaged something permanently. So far, so good. We'll see after an overnight charge on the OEM charger.
Word to the wise -- don't cheap out on this stuff. It could cost you the tablet!
Sure you didn't leave a game running or something?
Always good advice, in your case though it might be possible that you didn't have a very good connection from the micro usb plug to the N7. Measure the voltage output of the charger and if it's ok it's worth trying again but not leaving the device unattended.
player911 said:
Sure you didn't leave a game running or something?
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Possible, but highly unlikely.
Troute said:
Always good advice, in your case though it might be possible that you didn't have a very good connection from the micro usb plug to the N7. Measure the voltage output of the charger and if it's ok it's worth trying again but not leaving the device unattended.
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Not a chance. This thing is going back for a refund. I think I got off extremely lucky and I'm not tempting luck.
I've had about the same thing happen with the stock wall charger.
Don't you just love ambigous thread titles like this? Catchy eh? You caught me clicking this one just out of my curiosity.
Thanks for the heads up though!
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Would have been even better with wireless charging

This phone would have been more perfect with wireless charging built in, anyone agree?
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Yes, it would have been better, but you don't have to make a thread about this...
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Well even though it doesn't I've found this http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/qi-micro-usb-wireless-charging-adapter-clip-p37404.htm , so technically it could. And appologies.
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Why do you need this?
Is less comfort then wire chargh.
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It doesn't have wireless charging but the dock that comes free with the phone in some areas doesn't need to plug into the phone and must do it wirelessly or via pins just beneath the backing I suppose
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It doesn't have wireless charging but the dock that comes free with the phone in some areas doesn't need to plug into the phone and must do it wirelessly or via pins just beneath the backing I suppose
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That's sounds ok
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Roscobigfoot said:
It doesn't have wireless charging but the dock that comes free with the phone in some areas doesn't need to plug into the phone and must do it wirelessly or via pins just beneath the backing I suppose
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There are 2 contacts on the left hand side of the phone which get used with the dock. They are power only - not USB or HDMI. There is *no* wireless charging in this phone.
M.
mattman83 said:
There are 2 contacts on the left hand side of the phone which get used with the dock. They are power only - not USB or HDMI. There is *no* wireless charging in this phone.
M.
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Nokias wireless charger works with all phones that have NFC, looks like i will be buying that then!
From what I've seen wireless charging is presently a bit dodgy anyway, perhaps Sony are just waiting for the tech to settle down a bit before introducing it. I don't think I'll be going for wireless charging with my N4 any time soon.
xiFIL said:
Nokias wireless charger works with all phones that have NFC, looks like i will be buying that then!
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I don't think so. It has NFC so that you can launch a task when you put your phone to charge, but it's still based on the Qi wireless charging spec which means the phone has to be compatible too.
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I don't think so. It has NFC so that you can launch a task when you put your phone to charge, but it's still based on the Qi wireless charging spec which means the phone has to be compatible too.
M.
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just looked in to it, sorry your right, i had read somewere without looking it up. My bad!
@OP: Why would you want wireless charging in the first place? It's just a gimmick it might be nice to have but, when you don't have it you won't miss it either way.
Same with 3d also a gimmick, we can live perfectly without 3d movies etc. Even though 3d movies can be quite nice to see.
Inappropriate thread.
Reported to mod.
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Inappropriate thread.
Reported to mod.
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wireless charging is not comfortable for daily uses
I had a Droid DNA and hated the wireless charging. For one you have to pay upwards of $25-$50 for a wireless charging pad, charging takes several times longer, the phone/battery get hot while using it, which will probably lead to shortened battery life, and it's not like you can use your phone while wireless charging since if it moves more than a few millimeters off the pad it stops, versus wired where you are limited only to the length of the wire.
Isnt wireless charging jsut putting the phone on a "dock"? Like my cordless phone? or the old nokia's where u had to put it on a charging dock? Ppl behave as those it is sending microwaves to your phone within a certain radius and the phone magically charges...and if it were like that I would be afraid of nuking my insides lol
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Isnt wireless charging jsut putting the phone on a "dock"? Like my cordless phone? or the old nokia's where u had to put it on a charging dock? Ppl behave as those it is sending microwaves to your phone within a certain radius and the phone magically charges...and if it were like that I would be afraid of nuking my insides lol
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Exactly my thought. It's wireless, but you have to put your phone on a mat... i really prefer putting my phone on a dock, and the one for Xperia Z is very good because there is no "port" that might go loose with time, just two metal pins that are touching the charger pins.
For those in doubt - here is the dock Sony will release to go with this phone - Not quite wireless charging but nearly. Having seen this it has convinced me to get the phone - the thought of fiddling with the port covers in the dark every night to conect the charger was putting me off (my gf goes to bed before me so I can't put the light on).
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/charging-dock-dk26/
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For those in doubt - here is the dock Sony will release to go with this phone - Not quite wireless charging but nearly. Having seen this it has convinced me to get the phone - the thought of fiddling with the port covers in the dark every night to conect the charger was putting me off (my gf goes to bed before me so I can't put the light on).
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/charging-dock-dk26/
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Price is supposed to be ~35£. Could be cheaper, but it's not that bad.

Magnetic charging strips

The S5 is a great looking phone, spec wise. Nothing is dramatically different over the S4, other than Waterproof, fingerprint and a couple other sensors. But everything is an upgrade in some way.
Except for ease of charging.
Yes, for those of us who like to get everything done with one click, one hand, one motion, one something.... the S5 has taken a step back in docking/charging capabilities.
While the USB 3.0 offers *faster* charging to some degree, we are now obstructed from ease of use by the very thing that makes this phone *really special* and unique. Waterproofing. Yep, those dang "doors" that seal up the USB port have added "one more" step. This time, one more step in the form of attaching a USB cable or docking our phones. I myself paid $75 for a killer dock that gave me one-handed, one motion docking that offers charging. I just plop my S4 phone down and it's secured and charging right away (Craigsdocks Dock).
Most of you probably don't care about this "one extra step". So those are the folks who will step into this thread and participate the most, because they don't care and think it's stupid that other people care. lol
But for you "one step" people out there like myself, who are avidly into Tasker automation, modifying the Quick Settings panel and want the fastest launcher with coolest widgets possible.... YOU will understand what I'm talking about when I say the S6 *NEEDS* to have Magnetic Docking Pins.
And I cannot believe Samsung has not only locked the bootloader on us USA citizens, but they have also not given this phone some semblance of ease of use when it comes to Car Docks and other types of docks, for everyone in the entire world.
Ugh, shame on you, Samsung. Your lack of foresight is amazing. Because we all know the S6 will have Magnetic Docking Pins and thus, every single one of us will pay to upgrade our phones once again, next year.
Oh, you might ask why Magnetic Pin charging is better than wireless charging?
Well that's because it charges twice as fast. Which is very important when your screen is set to 100% brightness, Pandora is streaming over Bluetooth and GPS is wildly trying to re-route me every few seconds. All while I'm on a 25% charge and have no plans to be anywhere near a charger for the next 24 hours after I get out of my car.
I only use the USB 3.0 port when I really need to charge my phone very fast. Otherwise, I always use wireless charging.
Maybe the phone isn't for you..... The beauty of Android is that you can get whatever manufacturer you like to sort your hardware needs.
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it will be the US carriers that have requested the phone is locked, not samsungs fault as is usually the case. You get a RAW deal over there compared to Europe.
The Project said:
This would GREATLY increase manufacturing costs.
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Hey, Sony has done it with the Xperia lineup and other MFG's have all fit it into production costs without any problems.
"Greatly" = what, $0.37 in materials? lmao
And here they all come, just as I predicted. lol
AMoosa said:
Maybe the phone isn't for you..... The beauty of Android is that you can get whatever manufacturer you like to sort your hardware needs.
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Umm, you think?!
The Project said:
AMoosa makes a great point. If you don't like it get a different phone or create your own.
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Yeah, another intelligent post. :good:
although the flap annoys me, the huge USB cable with 2 prongs annoys me more
I'm just using my old S4 charger, which works nearly just as fast and i dont have to fuss around with it as much
does the usb flap fold around flat ?? not sure i understand what happens to it in a dock.
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does the usb flap fold around flat ?? not sure i understand what happens to it in a dock.
thanks
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Good observation. It will definitely interfere with docks
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Acaibowl said:
I only use the USB 3.0 port when I really need to charge my phone very fast. Otherwise, I always use wireless charging.
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Hi How much time its taking to fully charge with USB 3.0
sandeep20064096 said:
Hi How much time its taking to fully charge with USB 3.0
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Gull charge from 5 percent full in a hour
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QI Wireless Charging

We heard rumors that it'd have wireless charging and now the Motorola Site doesn't list it on the Droid Turbo Spec Site.
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Juliann826 said:
We heard rumors that it'd have wireless charging and now the Motorola Site doesn't list it on the Droid Turbo Spec Site.
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It would be nice. I have an N7 but haven't bought a charging pad yet because I didn't feel I'd get enough use from it. My N7 battery easily lasts me a full day and I just throw it on the charger at night. No big deal.
I use a Moto X right now and tether my N7 to it on my daily bus commute (~2 hours each day) and I usually need to give the battery some juice before I leave work to have enough for tether on the ride home and the remainder of the evening.
When I get the Turbo, it will easily last a full day. I don't think I'd ever really need the full two days of battery life, but it would be great for long days. My Moto X right now can't make it through an entire day with my usage. I know I'm probably above the bar in SoT (usually 3.5-4h), but I average about 13h, according to GSAM over the last 8 months. Could use a nice big battery to keep me going for 18-20 hours.
I guess it does have wireless charging...
The new DROID comes with a turbo charging feature so when you’re low on battery, a 15 minute charge can get you up to 8 hours of use. DROID Turbo comes with the Motorola turbo power charger in the box at no additional cost. And for added convenience, the new DROID is wireless charging capable.
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Source: http://www.verizonwireless.com/news/article/2014/10/a-new-droid-experience-arrives-in-48-hours.html (in the "Endurance" section)
fury683 said:
I guess it does have wireless charging...
Source: http://www.verizonwireless.com/news/article/2014/10/a-new-droid-experience-arrives-in-48-hours.html (in the "Endurance" section)
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what does wireless charging capable mean? does that mean it will have QI built in?
Juliann826 said:
what does wireless charging capable mean? does that mean it will have QI built in?
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I would say yes.
A tech reviewer from pocketnow says it does have qi wireless charging
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can anybody confirm this?
Got the phone in hand. Charging with Samsung Qi pad just fine.
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Got the phone in hand. Charging with Samsung Qi pad just fine.
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Awesome..thanks for that
Semi-related.. Can anyone suggest a nice charging pad? I've looked at them for my N7 before and the prices seem to range pretty widely. I understand they charge pretty slowly.. but are they all the same for speed? Does the device need to be perfectly aligned in order to charge? Can I charge two devices at once (N7 and Turbo)?
I'm thinking I'll throw a pad on my desk and one at home, either in the living room (coffee table/end table) or bedside table.
There are some features of a phone that you appreciate more when you have them than you do when you read about them. An example might be high speed charging, their are a few technologies out there for this but the bottom line is when you have it you really come to like it. Its very nice when you have forgotten to charge your phone and you suddenly decide to go out to be able to get a charge on it that will see you through in the time it takes for a quick shower. When it was new and I first read about this it sounded good but no big deal, I usually make it through the day fine and charge over night. Now that I've had it though I really like it.
This is kind of a long way to get around to it but wireless charging is the same way. Its very nice to simply have the pad on the night stand or wherever you may put it and drop your phone on it without having to plug it in. It seems like nothing much but once you get used to it having to plug in seems like a bit of a hoop jump. One benefit of wireless charging that often gets missed is port damage, I have had more than one phone in the household that met its demise by tweaking the micro usb slot so that it either wouldn't charge or couldn't transfer data or both. My understanding is we will still have to plug in to get high speed charging but the ability to do both if we want is a very good thing in my mind.
krabman said:
There are some features of a phone that you appreciate more when you have them than you do when you read about them. An example might be high speed charging, their are a few technologies out there for this but the bottom line is when you have it you really come to like it. Its very nice when you have forgotten to charge your phone and you suddenly decide to go out to be able to get a charge on it that will see you through in the time it takes for a quick shower. When it was new and I first read about this it sounded good but no big deal, I usually make it through the day fine and charge over night. Now that I've had it though I really like it.
This is kind of a long way to get around to it but wireless charging is the same way. Its very nice to simply have the pad on the night stand or wherever you may put it and drop your phone on it without having to plug it in. It seems like nothing much but once you get used to it having to plug in seems like a bit of a hoop jump. One benefit of wireless charging that often gets missed is port damage, I have had more than one phone in the household that met its demise by tweaking the micro usb slot so that it either wouldn't charge or couldn't transfer data or both. My understanding is we will still have to plug in to get high speed charging but the ability to do both if we want is a very good thing in my mind.
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Good points. I held off on a pad for my N7 because the battery easily lasts me through the day, two if needed (I usually charge it every night, though). Even though the Turbo probably wouldn't need to be topped off during the day like my Moto X would benefit from, it would be nice to have the option. I agree on the Turbo charger too. Great in a pinch if you are at an airport or something and just need some quick juice for a flight or something.
3.9Ah batt's gonna take a long time to charge with a 700mA limit though.
Should be OK overnight. Then again if it's only discharged to 60% when you start it shouldn't be hateful.
Yeah, wireless charging works best where/when you are going to set it down for a while such as over night or when you place the charger where you set your phone in the evening. I used both, one on the nightstand and one on the end table by my chair. In the latter case it is quite convenient since you can answer a text or what have you and simply set it right back down and its charging again. This is why I think its a great feature to have both wireless and high speed by whatever name, they should complement each other well. I say should because I've had both but not on the same phone, I'm really fairly stoked about this handset for this and other reasons.

We need something like this.

Obviously not this particular one, but something to split the micro usb so we can charge the phone while using the VR, which is my only real issue with it, aside from phone warming up pretty bad.
It probably would be easier to modify headset itself and build charging port into headset or some kind flat cable with microusb on one end and another end could fit betwen battery and phone contacts or maybe someone discovered which are charging pins under back cover (used by charging back)
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Agreed, really wish samsung would have added charging, the only real downfall of the VR.
How about the QI mod I've seen people talk about? Seems like a good idea, basically just stick the pad in the front of the visor, aside from health risks from doing this lol, I'm worried that the VR will drain the battery faster than the QI charger will charge, but if anyone has any experience with it, I'm all ears!
Hopefully, the next version of the VR will allow charging.
They need to figure out the overheating before dealing with the charging if its hot already, imagine how much worse it would be while charging! At least we can quick charge!
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Obviously not this particular one, but something to split the micro usb so we can charge the phone while using the VR, which is my only real issue with it, aside from phone warming up pretty bad.
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There were concerns about people strangling themselves while charging the phone with a cable. And the additional heat is probably also a factor.
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They need to figure out the overheating before dealing with the charging if its hot already, imagine how much worse it would be while charging! At least we can quick charge!
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Well the samsung demo booth had a battery with a cord and a special cover with a hole in it. The cord was mainly for security (the battery screamed when removed from the phone, which the guy setting it up had to do to reboot it occasionally), but I'm pretty sure it also supplied power, since it was the only one in the booth and the thing was running all day long. We might be able to make our own usb-powered battery blank. Not only can we then do external power, but it should also help remove some heat. If there's enough room you could even add a peltier
I know its more money but invest in the official battery kit. If you're serious about using VR it's really the smartest option especially if you're showing off at a party.
I was watching this live YouTube stream and the guy was killing me with his low battery issues. It takes a minute to swap for hours of entertainment. And your depleted battery is charging as well. I bought mine at bestbuy because Samsung is always out of stock.

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