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After a year, is the Nexus One still a good buy?

I've been toying with the idea of buying a Nexus One for some time now, I'm no stranger to Android, having owned a Droid 2, Droid Incredible, and now a Samsung Captivate that I use with work. I currently also have an iPhone 4 as my personal phone, and I was just given an HTC Surround and Samsung Focus to replace the Captivate with, so I have to decide which I like more. I love Android, I've always been more drawn to it than my iOS devices, although I do love my iPhone. Now that the Nexus One has been out for a year and has its "successor" (depending on who you ask), is it a good buy still? I'm tired of waiting for AT&T to come out with something new that's a real killer phone, I've been hearing whispers of the HTC Desire HD being in testing, and the Moto Olympus being announced at CES. I'd get a Nexus S if I had T-Mobile and it had a microSD slot, but other than a larger screen and NFC capability, I don't see any real upgrade the S brings. What does everyone think, if I get this Nexus One is it a great buy and I'll enjoy it for awhile, or should I save my money and just wait longer?
PS, I know I own too many phones I can't help it! 3 phone lines will do that to ya

I barely got my nexus one so I would give you my own personal feedback.
Cons:
1.battery is some what horrible under medium to heavy use you can always tweak the phone to make last longer but sometimes is a pain in the butt.
2. 512mb of storage is a step back having to always watch what you installed, once again you can tweak it and make it less of an issue.
3. touch screen feedback is not the best like other phones that are out there. also having some multitouch issues on all models but I hardly notice the issue.
4. My personal issue not having a call and end keys is a pain but that just me been picky.
5. another personal opinion camera its not the greatest in my opinion.
Pros:
1. I got the phone for 295 under no contract that's a awesome deal I think.
2. will get gingerbread soon.
3. Having stock android makes things so much better I could of bought many android phones but the lack of updates made think twice of spending 300 plus.
4 this is a big one for me having to tether and having hotspot internet without rooting makes me so happy.
5. Adobe flash I love having flash for the same reason I didn't buy the nokia n8.
I know for a fact next year will be a big year for android if you wanna wait.

I have my nexus a year now, bought it when it just came out. I can agree with josemedina1983. Nexus is mine longest phone because it never got bored, there is always something new to find out, and google bringing the always the new android version makes the N1 up to date. All the new HTC phones are almost like the Nexus, some have more space to install apps on but that's it.
The only thing that bothers me a bit is the touch screen, it works great with apps but soon as you want to play games that require multi touch it's a nightmare.
I like mine N1 it has a great design works great love the trackball (miss it on new models) the dock station is great. i think i wil keep using mine N1 till something really great comes (didn't find a phone to replace it). I don't like the looks of the Nexus s it really feels cheap.
I think N1 is still a good it has it's flaws specially if you want to play games on it.

I've had my N1 for a few months, here's my take:
OS: Froyo with eventual Gingerbread
- Huge community support on the current OS with 'in-view' plans for OTA update to latest OS.
- Lots and lots of ROMs for this puppy, you can hack this baby four ways from Friday.
- Rumors that Gingerbread on latest Nexus S still a little green - will hopefully be ripe when it gets to N1
Phone cons:
- POS multitouch support (doesn't mean it's not responsive to single thumb touch).
- only 512MB of internal memory (but you can root and get Apps2SD to make up for that) [on a side note, isn't 16GB of internal memory on the Nexus S enough!?!]
- Bad design on the power button, will most likely fail after a few months if the design hasn't been fixed (see link in my signature)
- No Gyroscope - but it's not like you don't have other phones to play games on
- No NFC - but how soon are people going to start using that anways?
Phone Pros:
- Been around for a while, huge support community (XDA FTW!).
- Lots of hacks and tweaks for the phone as well.
- Anything wrong with the phone has already been discovered.
- Lots of developers have it, but you don't see it out in the wild that much (unique 'special' factor).
- Still a high end processor for the next few months until the Tegra 2s come out.
- Probably get it cheaper now that the Nexus S is out.

If you can get it cheap without a contract then sure its still a good phone.
But I would not pay full price for it or go on a contract in order to get it at this point.
Its not a bad phone at all but the phone market moves soooo fast its blinding.
I'll be keeping mine another year and then getting whatever is newest once my contract is up.

All really good advice, I feel like I'm still getting a phone that's relevant in today's market, but at the same time I know that something else is going to come soon and just put it to shame. I would like to know what's wrong with the N1's multitouch, is it just unresponsive or does it really not work? It's taken me quite some time to track down one that's sub $500 with the AT&T 3G bands, so I'm weighing the options very carefully here. After playing around with the Nexus S for some time a few days ago, I personally didn't find anything on Gingerbread that really stood out to me from Froyo, and I have it running on my Incredible now. It would be really nice to get something that was completely free of any carrier or manufactor influence as far as updates go, and easily hacking other roms onto this thing seems to be really easy. The power button issue I've heard about from other people, but some say it's not too hard to fix, so that isn't too bad for me. Decisions, decisions.

Just get the S

If you own another android phone and still using it i dont see the point of buying another one especially having the incredible its a damn good phone I think the incredible,evo,nexus,hd2,droid x,g2 are the classic android phones of 2010. I would wait alittle bit and stack up those 300 for the next phone. I feel next year windows 7 nokias meego and android tablets i love having alot of OS options.
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I have had my Nexus One 6 months and think it is a great phone. IMO one of the best looking phones made. I also have a Desire as my main phone and have used the Nexus to learn about rooting and custom roms. Its copped a hammering from experimenting but it has always come back to life. Google is defiantly your friend here LOL. If you have the spare $ and not to concerned with whats around the corner with the next gen Android its a good buy. But maybe that its 12 months since release a more current phone may be better. Try Nexus S. When it arrives in Australia I surely will get one. Good luck with your decision.
Steve.

It's a good phone, but I wouldn't buy it now after a year it came out, unless you get it really cheap. With CES happening right now, you should definitely wait and see.

If I need to recommend a phone I would still recommend the N1 provided its cheaper than the NS

Definitely a phone worth getting, more ROMS then you'll ever know what to do with. I've been back and forth between MIUI, cyanogen and enomthers ROMS and have never been.disappointed. battery life is amazing with these ROMS. My nexus at 1.113 Ghz outperformed my friends droid X at 1.465 Ghz and his rooted Evo
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I've also had gingerbread for about two weeks already and loving it
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llaufhutte said:
All really good advice, I feel like I'm still getting a phone that's relevant in today's market, but at the same time I know that something else is going to come soon and just put it to shame. I would like to know what's wrong with the N1's multitouch, is it just unresponsive or does it really not work? It's taken me quite some time to track down one that's sub $500 with the AT&T 3G bands, so I'm weighing the options very carefully here. After playing around with the Nexus S for some time a few days ago, I personally didn't find anything on Gingerbread that really stood out to me from Froyo, and I have it running on my Incredible now. It would be really nice to get something that was completely free of any carrier or manufactor influence as far as updates go, and easily hacking other roms onto this thing seems to be really easy. The power button issue I've heard about from other people, but some say it's not too hard to fix, so that isn't too bad for me. Decisions, decisions.
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see the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU0R9tdodw8
Its not the best but the biggest problem I have is axis flipping and the snapping to match the axis of the other finger (Don't know what that's called officially). It's not the best video and neither of these problems really bother me in day to day use. I vote it's a great phone to own and will be for a few years yet. As for the power button i've had mine since last march and still no issues.

I still think you should wait the nexus one AT&T version are pretty rare and they still go for around 50 + bucks, more than the t-mo version.

Comes this february then I officially own a phone that lasts for a year. Lol I used to change phones a lot. I just tried to find the perfect one for me. pam there it is
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Amazon.com deal on N1 too good to be true?
Been a long time follower of this forum but only just registered.
Looking to buy a Nexus one. It's going at $298 on Amazon from one of their eSellers. It is listed as new but most of the feedback on this seller refers to refurbished products - and sometimes when the buyer was expecting a new one. So I am really sceptical though it is very tempting to be able to get the phone for <$300.
Anyone here Ble to advise? Any better ideas on where I could look?

There are a lot of killer phones out there but....I like having one of the only phones that has Gingerbread without rooting (2.3.4). Exclusivity; I haven't seen one in the wild. Hotspot and tehering without rooting. Vanilla Android. While the touchscreen is buggy at times, I love my N1. I have had it for a year and never regretted my purchase. This is one of the phones that will be remembered for quite sometime IMO. A classic, as it were.

Do you think the there are too many android phones

I really like my d3 but I feel like its old already with rumors of the d4 so quick and the samsung nexus coming out. It seems that the market is flooded with android phones. Even my friends that have the iphone ask " why are there so many android phones that come so quickly" and I agree with them. I love android and will always have one. When I read things that say android has the market share I can't but wonder if its do the the huge number of android phones. I wish google would grow a pair and stop this. I would love to see just a few android phones " all stock " come out and show people that don't reallly know what a stock android phone is. I think its moto and htc, and samsung messing it all up with there ui's. And because of this is why the d3 will get lost. And its a great phone. Their are a lot of great phones but you buy one and a month later 3 more that are faster bigger come out. The only good thing about all the phones is that they all try to out do the other. So the technology gets better faster. But I would love to see less and more stock phones. Im tiered of explaining moto blur to people. My friends that have the iphone are right when they say what's wrong with stock android that the manfactures have to hide it. They have a good point. But anyway I just thought this needed to be said and now I wait 8 months till my upgrade and then I will get my samsung nexus and im back on stock forever. Also I know that we have roms and your phone can be stock with these but its still not the same.
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Google has little control over whether an OEM skins Android or not - Android is open source, and whuile I believe that they have specific requirements to get the Google market and apps, the OEMs are free to alter the framework. Of course, it is not the OEMs who simply make the phones - they are trying to sell to carriers, who also have specific demands for specific features (i.e., locked down bootloaders, so users will not be able to install apps that do things like offer hotspot service for free, plus carriers get money from software companies to pre-load specific software on the phones.) It is surely not Google who is controlling when specific makers are offering specific models (with the exception of the Nexus models.)
Google does contract with OEMs roughly once per year to make the Nexus devices, which are pure Android phones (Nexus One January 2010; Nexus S in December 2010; Nexus Prime November 2011.)
Are there too many phones? I would rather have too many great phones coming out frequently than too few phones coming out less frequently. Seriously, even with a Droid 4 coming out 6 months after a Droid 3 (if the release is indeed that tight), the Droid 3 hasn't suddenly become a terrible phone. It's a dual-core OMAP 1 GHz phone with 512 MB of RAM and a very high dpi high resolution display with reasonable battery life. This phone will remain usable for all of a typical 20 month Verizon contract commitment, just as the Droid Incredible remains entirely usable now 18 months or so after its first release.
That's my opinion, anyway. I think it's healthier to be happy that there are so many great phones pushing the envelope so frequently than the alternative - having to wait and try to guess the perfect time to upgrade to a new device. Choice can be hard, but I'd rather be able to choose between many, many models of cars than have Chevy, Ford, Toyota, etc. come out with a single model each every year.
Apple's way is very smart for them, but they do not have to compete with other OEMs making iOS phones. Android OEMs do need to be mindful of each other, and I think both ways are fine. If you are worried that too many phones are being released too fast, then by all means, switch to an iPhone and you'll be able to relax more, or simply buy whichever Nexus device is available at the time you are able or want to upgrade, as they are also now on an approximate yearly cycle. If you have to switch to another carrier to do so, that will surely send a message to the carrier that you are using that if they wanted to keep your business, they should have offered a Nexus device of their own.

Very good points. Just makes me a little mad that I get a phone and and one that I would rather have comes out a few months later. But then again I did not know that at the time. I just nee to maybe wait before jumping in. I do think that the samsung nexus will be the best selling phone of all time. I think that will send a measage to the carriers that stock it always better. I would like to think that stock it better now that 4.0 is out.
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This is the point that technology is at man. Every company is going to make devices that cater to each type of person. These smartphones really haven't been out long if you think about it in relative terms. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years we start seeing the smartphones get narrowed down into a few types of droids and of course 1 or 2 ugly step cousins made by that Apple company.
So to answer your question, yea, there may be a big selection of phones out there and by the time you get used to using one it is already outdated, but that's part of the fun of being at the edge of how far technology has gotten us.

I don't think the problem lies with too many phones but personally I think the carriers and OEMs are taking way too much advantage over the position that they are in.
When I bought my OG Droid, I went with a one year contract because I knew that soon enough a new phone would be out to replace it. This turned out to be incorrect as that was when Android phones were still in their adolescence.
In July, when I finally decided it was time to upgrade to the Droid 3, Verizon no longer offered a one-year contract and there was no sign of a QWERTY slider coming out for awhile. So I felt confident in choosing the Droid 3...
Here I sit, 4 months into a 2-year contract, the Droid 4 is on the horizon and my only option when it comes out is to buy it at full non-subsidized price. Which brings me to my next point...
Why are the non-contract prices SO high for these devices?! The cost of production and materials cannot be THAT high to warrant such a price. Add in the fact that the Operating System (Minus Blur/Sense/Etc) is "free" (to an extent).
To me it just seems like if we want to go with a prepaid, non-contract carrier we have to pay a really high price for a good phone. But when we go to a contract carrier, we are stuck for two years (unless you pay $300+ to cancel the contract) and when a new device comes out we must simply ignore it or cough up $600-700.
Am I wrong or is this the truth? Pardon my rant.

I think Android phones are being released insanely fast. There was a time when I'd read about all of them but now it seems like 3-4 new phones are announced every damn day. And they're ALL the same. Dual-Core, 4G, Gingerbread.

Ya they are all the same for the most part. That's what I don't like. Just wish the carriers would slow down, and focuse on one or two phones. Just can't wait till my upgrade comes. Just afraid that the different ui's will be not be good for android. People need to know what android looks like. Its not blur or sense and those ui's slow phones down a bit aswell.
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spacecasespiff said:
Ya they are all the same for the most part. That's what I don't like. Just wish the carriers would slow down, and focuse on one or two phones. Just can't wait till my upgrade comes. Just afraid that the different ui's will be not be good for android. People need to know what android looks like. Its not blur or sense and those ui's slow phones down a bit aswell.
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Google needs to put it's foot down and say no more skins. Skins should come as flashable roms from Moto or HTC, etc.
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Androidsims said:
Google needs to put it's foot down and say no more skins. Skins should come as flashable roms from Moto or HTC, etc.
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No it doesn't. It completely goes against what makes Android so good. Developers like being able to brand their phones, something they can't do under Windows Phone and obviously IOS. Flashable roms would just be confusing and potentially unstable for the average consumer.

Ya but people don't know what android looks like because of these skins. People think that blur is android and its not. Goggle should at least tell then to have more phones that are stock. Why hide android? Most people put roms on there phones to get rid of the skins. I know that's what I do.
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Most people put roms on there phones to get rid of the skins.
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This is probably true of people who mod their phone, but definitely not true of Android users as a whole. I would guess that less then 10% of Android users actually mod their phones. While it's a small sample, out of the 9 people I know personally that own Android phones, only 2 of them have modded it, and they only did it because I did it for them because they complained of the phone being too slow (Droid 1's). Although both recently upgraded to iphones.
The bottom line is the majority of Android users don't care about what their phone looks like or what Android truly looks like. The same way I don't care about whats under the hood of my car. A car gets me from point A to point B, what makes that happen is irrelevant to me. All I care is if the car is visually appealing to me. And maybe more recently MPG, because of the cost of gas is so god damn high.

Well the nice thing is, as long as XDA exists then we will always have a more current phone. If my Droid 3 would have not crapped out on me because of the screen I would still be using it at 1 GHz with the latest Gingerbread. Once we figure out how to mod the D3 better and better and if we do ever get the unlocked bootloader then our phones will still be just as current as the Nexus Prime or whatever is newer and better.
The specs of this phone despite not being 4G are good because the CPU and RAM are up there with the currently released high end phones (except the RAZR). We already have some good custom ROMs out there and I'm sure we will get ICS soon enough thanks to Hash.
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MrObvious said:
Well the nice thing is, as long as XDA exists then we will always have a more current phone. If my Droid 3 would have not crapped out on me because of the screen I would still be using it at 1 GHz with the latest Gingerbread. Once we figure out how to mod the D3 better and better and if we do ever get the unlocked bootloader then our phones will still be just as current as the Nexus Prime or whatever is newer and better.
The specs of this phone despite not being 4G are good because the CPU and RAM are up there with the currently released high end phones (except the RAZR). We already have some good custom ROMs out there and I'm sure we will get ICS soon enough thanks to Hash.
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The processor is good but the RAM is definitely lacking. 512MB is just not enough, the phone with stock stuff installed has a pretty terrible multi-tasking experience. Honestly I think the 512 is the reason why Motorola hasn't flagged it for an ICS update yet, because other than that it's basically the same phone as the Bionic/Razr and probably wouldn't be too hard to port.

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The processor is good but the RAM is definitely lacking. 512MB is just not enough, the phone with stock stuff installed has a pretty terrible multi-tasking experience. Honestly I think the 512 is the reason why Motorola hasn't flagged it for an ICS update yet, because other than that it's basically the same phone as the Bionic/Razr and probably wouldn't be too hard to port.
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No the software is just that bad.

i4mt3hwin said:
The processor is good but the RAM is definitely lacking. 512MB is just not enough, the phone with stock stuff installed has a pretty terrible multi-tasking experience. Honestly I think the 512 is the reason why Motorola hasn't flagged it for an ICS update yet, because other than that it's basically the same phone as the Bionic/Razr and probably wouldn't be too hard to port.
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512 MB will be fine for ICS, I am sure, as the Nexus S will be getting ICS with worse specs than the D3 (i.e., single-core CPU).
It's very possible that Moto and/or VZW will not want to take the time to develop ICS for the D3, or push it out, but it won't be because it has "only" 512 MB of RAM.

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512 MB will be fine for ICS, I am sure, as the Nexus S will be getting ICS with worse specs than the D3 (i.e., single-core CPU).
It's very possible that Moto and/or VZW will not want to take the time to develop ICS for the D3, or push it out, but it won't be because it has "only" 512 MB of RAM.
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The Nexus S doesn't have a ton of bloatware on it. Verizon will have to port all the applications that are stock loaded with the Droid 3 2.3.4 build over to ICS. I'm going to go ahead and assume that ICS probably uses more RAM than gingerbread. Couple that with the crap software Verizon loads on the phone and there is definitely a case for ram being an issue. I mean the stock phone blows as is, run maps and music and it slows to a crawl.

I think the over abundance of Android phones can be disheartening at first glance, but when you think about it, remember back a few years to when the original razr was the hot phone. After owning it for two years, you go in to get an upgrade to find that the best phone on the market is still a razr, but now it can play mp3s. If you use your head, you realize that all of these people who are worried about having the latest and greatest phone and go out to buy it as it is released still have a perfectly good "last month" phone. Hello Ebay. I saved my upgrade and bought a one month old D3 off ebay for $300. Use your upgrades when the RIGHT phone comes out, until then pick up the scraps from ebay at half price. Remember, even a used phone from ebay still carries a mfg warranty.
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I agree with OP that there are too many Android phones and not enough variety. i think the main difference is that while the iPhone was originally locked to one market, Android phones were everywhere. Each carrier had their own version of each phone made by each manufacturer, not to mention their individual contracts for certain phones that ended up getting out to other carriers eventually (i.e. Evo). My issue is there isn't much variety, yeah they have small upgrades here and there and small differences but the main thing is once a 1ghz 4.3" screen came out, every company made one. Once dual core came out, every company made one. Not much innovation imo, just keeping up with the competition. And I still don't understand why there are barely any QWERTY keyboards, another reason why it seems like most of the phones coming out are the same.
For me it all has began to come down to the looks department. I know I want a QWERTY so i had limited options, but even if it was an all touch screen you look for one that you can live with looking at every day and bite the bullet. Chances are everyone else will have one with similar specs just different body design.

Is the Nexus 7 right for me?

In my entire phone history, I have only ever owned and used 2 Android devices - the HTC Desire (with its awful amount of storage) and now the Samsung Galaxy Note. My Note is a fantastic behemoth of a phone, and perhaps even a tablet, but the Nexus 7 still appeals to me. As I like to not waste battery life of my phone, I'm not in a position to always use it heavily as I may need it to last the rest of the day rather than have it burn out after five hours of film watching in the morning. A tablet sounds appealing since I feel I no longer need a laptop besides for the occasional piece of homework where I shall need a keyboard and spend the majority of my time just on Facebook, the XDA forums, Blogger, YouTube and other basic web services. So, do you think the Nexus 7 is any good for me?

I think so, the only concern you should have is whether the small screen size jump justifies a new device. If you are fine with owning a 5in and 7in device, this seems like a nice product to do all your browsing on so you are not sucking the phone dry.

The screen jump size is pretty minimal and, in my mind, I find it hard to justify. Whilst I don't take my phone to school, however, I do like for it to last the day and giving it the intense usage of a tablet it just won't manage that. I brought the Note to purposely save the cost of a tablet also, yet this Nexus 7 seems an absolute bargain with pretty good specification. Plus, I suspect it'll have some great support and the idea of a pure Google experience interests me.
Also, is it possible to have multiple user profiles through different Google accounts on Android? As my family and I may split the costs, yet we wouldn't want each other accessing our Google accounts.

Do you think the extra 8GB to 16GB is worth the extra £41 GBP or so?

Just wait till the end of July, hold it in your hands and decide for yourself and live with no regrets.
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Just wait till the end of July, hold it in your hands and decide for yourself and live with no regrets.
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But, how will I be able to hold it in my hands? Is it going to be available in shops?

Brad387 said:
Do you think the extra 8GB to 16GB is worth the extra £41 GBP or so?
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I'd say yes

Jordanooo said:
I'd say yes
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I'm going to hold off on it for now. I don't really have the money and 2 inches isn't enough to warrant another device. My Galaxy Note is pretty great...

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The screen jump size is pretty minimal and, in my mind, I find it hard to justify. Whilst I don't take my phone to school, however, I do like for it to last the day and giving it the intense usage of a tablet it just won't manage that. I brought the Note to purposely save the cost of a tablet also, yet this Nexus 7 seems an absolute bargain with pretty good specification. Plus, I suspect it'll have some great support and the idea of a pure Google experience interests me.
Also, is it possible to have multiple user profiles through different Google accounts on Android? As my family and I may split the costs, yet we wouldn't want each other accessing our Google accounts.
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I was also curious about the mulitple profiles idea. It would be great if my wife and I could have different profiles that store credentials, bookmarks, favorite apps, etc. Anyone have insight on this?
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trud9340 said:
I was also curious about the mulitple profiles idea. It would be great if my wife and I could have different profiles that store credentials, bookmarks, favorite apps, etc. Anyone have insight on this?
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I'd love for Google to implement this themselves on tablet versions of Jelly Bean, as in my opinion tablets are a device used by more than one person unlike a phone. Yet, if I were to buy a tablet, I'd feel uncomfortable letting my family use it cause I don't want them accessing my YouTube, Gmail and all my accounts that are tied to the tab.

Do people here think it is worth it or not?

It'll be in shops a week after preordered units are shipped out according to some sources. They say just the 16gb though as the 8gb will only be available in the play store
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ky0nkyon said:
It'll be in shops a week after preordered units are shipped out according to some sources. They say just the 16gb though as the 8gb will only be available in the play store
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Okay. Still can't decide whether to buy this or not. I could just install Paranoid Android, which will allow me to run apps in tablet or phone mode, onto my Note and then there would be just 2 inches screen difference. Yet, a pure Google experience without the risk of flashing and the latest Android version all seems really appealing to me. I suppose it'll take me a while to safe up the cash anyway, which will give me time to think.

I think the size difference is too small to be worth it. Plus the 8-16 GB limitation. You already have a device that can pretty much double up as a tablet for all the things you posted about. Just get an extra battery (and/or the 5400 mah one) and you'll be good to go.

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I think the size difference is too small to be worth it. Plus the 8-16 GB limitation. You already have a device that can pretty much double up as a tablet for all the things you posted about. Just get an extra battery (and/or the 5400 mah one) and you'll be good to go.
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I think so too. I'm looking into Paranoid Android, which will allow me to actually run tablet apps. Hopefully that'll help a bit. On a side note, do you think there'll be much of a performance difference between the Nexus 7 and Note?
Note has dual-core clocked at 1.4Ghz.
Nexus 7 has quad-core clocked at 1.3Ghz.

Brad387 said:
I'd love for Google to implement this themselves on tablet versions of Jelly Bean, as in my opinion tablets are a device used by more than one person unlike a phone. Yet, if I were to buy a tablet, I'd feel uncomfortable letting my family use it cause I don't want them accessing my YouTube, Gmail and all my accounts that are tied to the tab.
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Try an app called "app lock", it's really useful for stopping people accessing apps with your personal info when you let them borrow your phone/tablet.
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Brad387 said:
I think so too. I'm looking into Paranoid Android, which will allow me to actually run tablet apps. Hopefully that'll help a bit. On a side note, do you think there'll be much of a performance difference between the Nexus 7 and Note?
Note has dual-core clocked at 1.4Ghz.
Nexus 7 has quad-core clocked at 1.3Ghz.
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The difference will be massive (from what i've heard) because of jellybean's "project butter". So the question is when the devs make jellybean available for you.
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You will love the device - No doubt!

I am not sure whether I "need" one either. I already have a MacBook Pro, a SGS2 and a iPad 3 wifi only. Any idea what I should do, I really want one to experience some Jelly Bean!

phoneman09 said:
I am not sure whether I "need" one either. I already have a MacBook Pro, a SGS2 and a iPad 3 wifi only. Any idea what I should do, I really want one to experience some Jelly Bean!
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The question is, do you use your iPad often? If not then what's the point? I'm pretty sure that sooner or later (if not already) there will be a port of Jelly Bean for you SGS2.
If you really want it that bad for no reason, why not just sell you iPad then buy the Nexus 7. You'll be gaining money too that way

Nexus is slowly converging into Apple's design philosophy

Don't get me wrong. I am a huge Nexus fan and I'm going to upgrade my Gnex to the Nexus 4 as soon as it comes out. However, I can't help but think that the Nexus line is gradually following iPhone's design. Starting with the Nexus S, it lost the expandable storage option. Now comes the Nexus 4 and it doesn't have a removable battery. Both of these features were touted to be 2 of the major advantages Android, in general, had over the iPhone. With the glass back cover, the Nexus 4 now even shares more similarities with the iPhone.
Android supporters always argue that one of the reasons they chose Android is that they didn't want Apple to dictate what they can or cannot have on their phones. With the limited internal storage in the Nexus 4, some people explained that Google wanted us to use their cloud services. To me, IMO, this is like Google forcing us to do what they want us to do, by not giving us expandable storage.
I still like the Nexus line and fortunately there are many other good Android phones to choose from if the Nexus 4 doesn't suit some people. I just wanted to share a small gripe that I have with the Nexus line. I think it's pretty obvious that Google put these limitations on these Nexus phones because they didn't want to directly compete with their Android partners. Do you guys think we will ever see a "perfect" Nexus phone in the future?

I use Android because of the fantastic, open OS.
I don't care about removable batteries or SD cards.

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Really, the N4 isn't out yet and there are muppets posting Apple posts in the nexus forum
Get a grip ffs.

Google aren't forcing you to do anything. If 16GB is a deal breaker (and using a thumddrive with USB OTG isn't an option) Google know you have other options Galaxy S3, Note II, One X+, Xperia T, Optimus G, that will offer different storage and battery options, while still feeding into the Google ecosystem.
The philosophy behind the Nexus devices has changed this year. They used to be primarily developer devices, for this purpose it made perfect sense to have a microSD slot and removable battery. Google are now positioning the brand as a true competitor to iOS. The vast majority of consumers don't need a microSD slot or removable battery or huge amounts of storage. They have clearly made the decision that the design and price of the phone is more important than these features. It won't be right for some but I think for the vast majority of people it will be perfectly fine.

Frankly, I think we could use a little more Apple-ness. Fewer devices, more consistency, direct to handset updates. And, the SD-card will be going the way of the dodo bird. I'm fine with what I see so that better and faster changes can be implemented and so that titles may eventually come Android's way before any other OS's way.

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Google aren't forcing you to do anything. If 16GB is a deal breaker (and using a thumddrive with USB OTG isn't an option) Google know you have other options Galaxy S3, Note II, One X+, Xperia T, Optimus G, that will offer different storage and battery options, while still feeding into the Google ecosystem.
The philosophy behind the Nexus devices has changed this year. They used to be primarily developer devices, for this purpose it made perfect sense to have a microSD slot and removable battery. Google are now positioning the brand as a true competitor to iOS. The vast majority of consumers don't need a microSD slot or removable battery or huge amounts of storage. They have clearly made the decision that the design and price of the phone is more important than these features. It won't be right for some but I think for the vast majority of people it will be perfectly fine.
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I agree with you. The design and price of the phone are actually more important to me. That's why in my original post I said that I will get the Nexus 4 for sure. And again, like I said, there are so many other good options out there for everyone if the N4 is not right for them.
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Really, the N4 isn't out yet and there are muppets posting Apple posts in the nexus forum
Get a grip ffs.
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I'm not an Apple advocate and have never owned any Apple products. I don't even have iTunes or Quicktime installed on my computer. I just wanted to see what other people think about my observation. That's why I started the post during my little break from work. I tried to make my original post as objective as possible. Guess I failed. =\

I think keeping removal batteries and sd cards would be awesome, and 32gbs would be lovely but that isn't budget.
Personally I'd toss another 50 for those features but that's me.

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I tried to make my original post as objective as possible. Guess I failed. =\
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It's a thread about Apple in a Nexus forum

floepie said:
Frankly, I think we could use a little more Apple-ness. Fewer devices, more consistency, direct to handset updates. And, the SD-card will be going the way of the dodo bird. I'm fine with what I see so that better and faster changes can be implemented and so that titles may eventually come Android's way before any other OS's way.
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I think this is where google is going with the nexus devices. Something more streamlined and user-friendly for the masses. They have to make money too, and even though us phone nerds like to tinker away and have options, most people want something straightforward that "just works." Code will still be open sourced though and developers can have their fun with these devices. Also, don't forget that android has a ton of devices from other manufacturers with SD slots, removable battery, bigger screens... etc. There are a lot of android choices, but their flagship device is being made more for mass-marketing now.

1. Most new phones won't have a removable battery. Get over it.
2. Google has stated many times that they believe SD cards are unreliable and confusing for the end user. So they are trying to set an example and get rid of them. Now I agree they should offer 32GB versions to compensate.
So.... There's that.

Not being rude but I use android because of its open software and customization that u cant have it on apple phone/pads.
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I do also prefer Android over iOS because of the open OS and to the fact we have a file system that enables us to have files and several apps accessing those files. I would prefer to have a removable battery and the option to have a SD card, and even FM radio and 32Gb ... but for the price of this device, and the features he gives, its a must for me!
I have a SGS with SD slot ... and i dont use it. I have a removable battery and i only remove it when applying custom ROMs (if needed) ... so if there is an option to go to recovery or do a force restart without removing the battery, for me ... its ok. regarding space, i am using the cloud for most of the space needed ... so, again ... Im ok!

The lack of a removable battery is not a big deal to me. It's 2100mah, which is significantly more than the 1750mah given to the Galaxy Nexus, and it doesn't have to power a battery-destroying AMOLED screen. As far as removable storage, I've gotten by just fine on 16GB on my Galaxy Nexus, mostly because I rely on music streaming services and use my Nexus 7 for all of my games.
Google isn't removing hardware options because they hate their users, they're doing it because their R&D has shown that massive local storage and removable batteries are not as important to the majority of users, and they can drive down the device cost by omitting them. Personally I am annoyed by how the battery door of my Galaxy Nexus always creaks, so I'd probably prefer my next device to be a completely closed off design.
Don't forget that there exists a phone with relatively the same specs as the Nexus 4, but also offers removable storage and LTE, known as the Optimus G. Sure, the development community for it will be smaller, but that shouldn't matter if all you really care about is the hardware.

i agree with the concept that the OP put out there. people want options, and android gives them options as apple does not. a glass back is just bad design, yes it looks good, but it can break unnecessarily and cause problems that one should not have to deal with. people don't like having no options, and it is good that google, unlike apple, allows other device makers to use the android OS, and make it open source. that way you still do have an option, and my choice will be SGS3 because of google's decisions. (and i don't really want a device manufactured by LG, i was hoping asus would get into the phone side of nexus, or it would still be samsung)
that being said, i now have a galaxy s phone and an external battery charger, because i can switch batteries at any time and have a full charge without having to be tethered to a cable/cradle. i hate iOS with a passion. and i was very excited to see there was a new nexus device dropping. i can live without the sd slot option (although it is not my favorite thing, and would like expandability) but i will not buy a phone that doesn't allow me to change out batteries as i am accustomed. have had external chargers with my last 2 phones (about 5 years) and it is real handy to be able to swap and go.

I didn't care for the Google guys response to why it doesn't have an sd card slot. He said it was confusing for people to have 2 storage options, and they wouldn't be able to find their own pictures, etc. That seems like an Apple-y response to me, assuming people are idiots, and can't handle it, so they take away the option.
I've always loved Android because it can be easy to pick up for newbies, and can get quite advanced for techies. Don't take away our options Google. Give us the choice

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I didn't care for the Google guys response to why it doesn't have an sd card slot. He said it was confusing for people to have 2 storage options, and they wouldn't be able to find their own pictures, etc. That seems like an Apple-y response to me, assuming people are idiots, and can't handle it, so they take away the option.
I've always loved Android because it can be easy to pick up for newbies, and can get quite advanced for techies. Don't take away our options Google. Give us the choice
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Only one of the Nexus phones had a micro sd slot, so it's not like all of a sudden they decided "hey lets remove the sd slot to piss people off"
Its all about setting standards. Google give us what they believe is the true Android experience, and obviously that is without a micro sd card and hardware buttons.
They give us choices, by allowing micro sd support with the kernel/roms.

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Only one of the Nexus phones had a micro sd slot, so it's not like all of a sudden they decided "hey lets remove the sd slot to piss people off"
Its all about setting standards. Google give us what they believe is the true Android experience, and obviously that is without a micro sd card and hardware buttons.
They give us choices, by allowing micro sd support with the kernel/roms.
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I think the actual reason is the dont want to pay the big M 15$ for licensing for using exfat on each device.

Michealtbh said:
I use Android because of the fantastic, open OS.
I don't care about removable batteries or SD cards.
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i second this.

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Frankly, I think we could use a little more Apple-ness. Fewer devices, more consistency, direct to handset updates. And, the SD-card will be going the way of the dodo bird. I'm fine with what I see so that better and faster changes can be implemented and so that titles may eventually come Android's way before any other OS's way.
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Agreed - so as long as the #fail within Apple stays at bay. The one thing I hope Google can accomplish that Apple has been complacent with regards to is the US carrier/lock-in model. I realize that the cellular industry in the US started out significantly different than in Europe, however we're at a point now where unlocked phones can generally be used across a couple of carriers. If Google can take advantage of splitting the subsidized costs out but keeping hardware costs for new smartphones lower I'm all in favor of that. I was pleasantly surprised to see the unlocked Nexus 4 at a reasonable price - we need more of this as I feel phone quality and features will vastly improve if consumers can, and will, have a better selection of phones more frequently (not being locked to a phone for ~2 years). Maybe this will signal to manufacturers to slow down a bit, improve build quality and focus in on what the customer wants and then they'll end up with the "next big thing" for a few months. It'd also be nice to know, going into buying a phone, what the support model is before you buy. So if the vendor puts out a, sort of, LTS (Long Term Support) guarantee for 2 years knowing darn well that getting out updates quickly is prudent.
Also I'm not sure why Apple is the only vendor to, basically, have complete control over their device's software - where it seems to be that Android is the second class citizen and gets held up by the carriers AND the manufacturers (almost conveniently so that the public can play the blame game). If Google can make progress on this fron then two :good:.

Removable battery and sd cards were two advantages... Let's see what we have left.
Swype
SwiftKey
New 4.2 stock keyboard with both.
CyanogenMod + roms.
Micro usb standard. (30$ adapter anyone?)
Multiple device/price selection
On nexus devices root is an ADB command.
Oh, we are arguably less fragmented than Apple. Don't believe me? Ask my mom how she likes siri on her iPhone 4, or my girlfriends grand father about siri on his ipad 2. Oh.... Wait they don't have it. Still haven't found any solid way to hack it on. Meanwhile my 2 year old captivate with Cm10 and Google now...
Oh yeah, nfc chips are totally not an advantage are they?
I'll give apple credit the battery and screen on the ipad 3 are amazing. Apple has even managed to impress me time to time. You can't however single out one or two minor advantages of a platform and act like it doesn't exist without them.
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decided to move on

I've had some great use out of my Nexus 4. As a phone, I've absolutely loved it and when I upgrade to Lollipop, I felt like it was reborn, but unfortunately the last few months have proved testing, coming across great new phones that all have MicroSD slots to expand them and unfortunately with just 16GB of internal memory, I'm finding it increasingly hard to use my phone to my enjoyment. Sure, I could dump all my photos onto the Cloud, or I could backup to my computer, or I could do something else... but the point is, I don't want to. I wanted my Nexus 4 to have an SD slot, and I knew I was taking a risk years ago when I bought it. Luckily, it hasn't manifested itself like I expected, although maybe that's because I was careful (no games, no music, routinely deleting old stuff to clean it up, backing up videos onto my FTP server when it got too full etc).
My Nexus 4 has been a terrific device, and since the Lollipop upgrade, has felt like a brand new phone, and if it wasn't for the lack of expandable memory, I wouldn't have considered getting rid of it, but unfortunately the time has come.
I've now switched to the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4G. It's a budget device (costing just £108 as I didn't pay tax) but is more powerful and has a bigger screen. It also has 4G and expandable memory. It's an interesting upgrade for a Nexus user. I feel like I've gone from a premium device to a budget device and that will take some getting used to, but I think the pros outweigh the cons.
Interestingly, Xiaomi has a huge following in China, India, Malaysia, Singapore, whereas Nexus has a huge following across the rest of the world so I will be experiencing how custom ROM's appear for this phone in a totally different way.
Anyway, as the end draws near for Nexus 4, I'm sure a few of you will be jumping ship soon too, but one things for sure, it's still a great device if you can handle the lack of internal storage, so good on those who do

I have 300 songs, 20 apps, Nokia Here maps of my country (300mb), a few HD videos, 50-ish photos and i still have 5,6GB left.
I know some people use their phones for multimedia and easily fill up even 32gigs, but Nexus 4 isnt a multimedia phone, not with its 2100mah battery and its 4.7" screen
I'm thinking of giving my Nexus 4 to sister this summer and getting something new, but still haven't decided what to get thats not very expensive but good, and i don't want a Nexus 5 because it's too similar to Nexus 4 with similar problems

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I have 300 songs, 20 apps, Nokia Here maps of my country (300mb), a few HD videos, 50-ish photos and i still have 5,6GB left.
I know some people use their phones for multimedia and easily fill up even 32gigs, but Nexus 4 isnt a multimedia phone, not with its 2100mah battery and its 4.7" screen
I'm thinking of giving my Nexus 4 to sister this summer and getting something new, but still haven't decided what to get thats not very expensive but good, and i don't want a Nexus 5 because it's too similar to Nexus 4 with similar problems
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I don't use my phone for multimedia as such, but I do take a lot of photos. I had about 5.9 GB's of photos on it. which, btw, were a nightmare to get off seeing as MTP is seemingly completely incapable of transferring such a large number of files (ended up installing an FTP server on the phone and using FileZilla instead). Considering you only get about 12GB of usable data (much of which is taken up by apps) meant I had very little left. I do get lots of WhatsApp photos too and I guess I've been lazy about deleting them. Ultimately, I grew frustrated about the fact I was constantly running out of space and without deleting stuff, I really couldn't do much about it. I spent a lot of time going through and deleting stuff but I only ever freed up about 1GB or 2GB which meant I was never too far away from filling my phone.
I kept hearing the argument of 'go cloud', 'cloud storage', 'welcome to the cloud', 'use the Nexus with the cloud', but when it came to actually use the cloud it consistently failed on me. I took several videos at a concert last year amounting to a few GB's. I figured this is exactly what the cloud is for seeing as they weren't desperately needed on my phone as such. I tried to upload them (tried both 3G and WiFi), and the Google Drive app seemed completely incapable of handling large files. It was fine for images, or small videos, but uploading these larger videos, it lagged to the point the phone became totally unresponsive and despite waiting for hours, nothing happened and I eventually had to reboot the phone. I googled the issue and there wasn't much detail of it on the Internet. Perhaps I was a rare case but it meant I had to upload them to my FTP server which wasn't ideal either.
I was very close to getting rid of the N4 when it was running KitKat, as I felt it had lost all its bite. I've had phones in the past go stale with time and ultimately, I was happy to move on. With the Nexus 4, I upgraded to Lollipop and it felt like a brand new phone. It totally changed my mind, but then I started having the storage problems again and despite persevering I just got bored. Maybe I should have given out to the cloud, but as an option as is, I wasn't all that keen automatically sync'ing every photo the cloud. Plus, I never felt Google quite got the implementation of the cloud right. Ironically, my new phone, the Xiaomi, they've got it exactly how I always envisioned Google would do it, in that their Gallery app has a local tab and an 'Online' tab, so you can sync all your Gallery photos to the cloud and instantly pull them, rather than having to go on the Photos app or Drive app or whatever. On the whole, it's just a better implementation. Daft considering it's not required on a phone now kitted with a massive Samsung UHS SD card.
I've sold my Nexus 4 to my old man for £70. About £30 cheaper than what I could on eBay but I couldn't be arsed with the hassle. He'll use it and it'll be a great phone for him (his S2 is as good as dead it's that slow now).

Unfortunately, I wanted the Nexus 6 but Google let me down by overpricing it. If they'd dropped the price of the N5, I might have considered another go, but I'm not willing to pay full price for a phone that is a year old. No chance.
I guess I should have upgraded to the N5 when it first came out... but hey ho, we live and learn. I'm now a Xiaomi customer lol

I wouldn't get a Xiaomi as i'm worried about OS updates.
You say KitKat was awful for you and Lollipop rejuvenated your N4 but my case is different. KitKat was the best for me, apart from the pulldown notification bar which was laggy sometimes. 5.0 was the worst thing i've ever came across. I was less frustrated when i was on Bada OS on my old Samsung Wave III. I'm now on the unofficial 5.1 port which is even better than KitKat.
If i were to compare 5.0 and 5.1 on the N4, 5.0 would be an old Ford Focus and 5.1 would be an V8 Aston Martin. Unbelieveably slow experience on 5.0.

The Redmi Note 4G is in some ways a downgrade, IMO. Can't argue too much though, given the cost. Better camera, SD slot (but less native storage), bigger screen, bigger battery. But the SD400/Adreno 305 is inferior to to the S4 Pro/320 that the Nexus 4 has, despite the tick higher clock speed. But if it works for you, then great.

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I wouldn't get a Xiaomi as i'm worried about OS updates.
You say KitKat was awful for you and Lollipop rejuvenated your N4 but my case is different. KitKat was the best for me, apart from the pulldown notification bar which was laggy sometimes. 5.0 was the worst thing i've ever came across. I was less frustrated when i was on Bada OS on my old Samsung Wave III. I'm now on the unofficial 5.1 port which is even better than KitKat.
If i were to compare 5.0 and 5.1 on the N4, 5.0 would be an old Ford Focus and 5.1 would be an V8 Aston Martin. Unbelieveably slow experience on 5.0.
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Interestingly, I think you'd be surprised that Xiaomi seem to have a decent reputation for updates, but more importantly there's a massive userbase. I was astonished by how many custom roms are already appearing and there's already a pretty stable cm12 except minus the camera.
Lollipop was a huge upgrade for me on nexus 4. The phone was fast and felt supercharged. To be fair, perhaps I was lucky.
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The Redmi Note 4G is in some ways a downgrade, IMO. Can't argue too much though, given the cost. Better camera, SD slot (but less native storage), bigger screen, bigger battery. But the SD400/Adreno 305 is inferior to to the S4 Pro/320 that the Nexus 4 has, despite the tick higher clock speed. But if it works for you, then great.
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the GPU is a downgrade but I'm not a massive games player. The less native storage is solved by folder mount. The CPU is about the same, roughly. Perhaps a tiny downgrade although Antutu puts this above the N4. It also brings new connectivity in 4G and better WiFi I believe.
The cost is unbeatable.

How long have you been using Nexus 4? I decided to move on to Galaxy S6 and try 3rd party zl or mpj external battery case. It has been two years since bought the Nexus 4, but now Phone gets hot and battery rapidly discharges

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I wouldn't get a Xiaomi as i'm worried about OS updates.
You say KitKat was awful for you and Lollipop rejuvenated your N4 but my case is different. KitKat was the best for me, apart from the pulldown notification bar which was laggy sometimes. 5.0 was the worst thing i've ever came across. I was less frustrated when i was on Bada OS on my old Samsung Wave III. I'm now on the unofficial 5.1 port which is even better than KitKat.
If i were to compare 5.0 and 5.1 on the N4, 5.0 would be an old Ford Focus and 5.1 would be an V8 Aston Martin. Unbelieveably slow experience on 5.0.
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Could you please point me in the right direction as to where and how to get unofficial 5.1 port? Waiting for OTA is sooo frustrating

bjonre said:
How long have you been using Nexus 4? I decided to move on to Galaxy S6 and try 3rd party zl or mpj external battery case. It has been two years since bought the Nexus 4, but now Phone gets hot and battery rapidly discharges
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A new battery is only about $20 USD. Just saying...

bjonre said:
How long have you been using Nexus 4? I decided to move on to Galaxy S6 and try 3rd party zl or mpj external battery case. It has been two years since bought the Nexus 4, but now Phone gets hot and battery rapidly discharges
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Goodbye buy then.

i can't understand why "new thread"?

Well, a quick update. It didn't take long, but I'm currently flashing ROM's left right and centre lol, trying to pick which one I prefer the most. There goes my genuine attempts to avoid flashing any custom ROM's and giving it a chance to impress in its stock form.
CM12 is seriously good but missing camera functionality at the moment. Everything else is stable but the camera is a killer for me.
CM11 is fully stable so I think I'll end up settling for that.
MIUI6 is fantastic in it's ways but unfortunately, is a bit too overwhelming. Too much pretty stuff at the expense of genuine usability.
MIUI5 i've not tried yet.
Here's the thing though, I'm already embracing my ability to use an SD card. I could never perform a full Nandroid on my N4, realistically.... I've already got one for this phone... and I've got a load of ROM's dumped so I can test.
Performance wise, I'd say this phone is about the same or slightly less than the N4, but the fact it has an FM radio a SD slot, and a few other cool features makes up for it.... and the big screen, which does a cracking job of trying to look HD (it isn't quite HD).
One feature which CM12 is offering but I'm yet to try is an FM Tx. Now that would seriously be an incredible feature if it actually works. Probably doesn't though to be fair. However the MI3 and MI4 both have FM Tx's so who knows?
In truth though, I do miss the N4. It had a certain charm about it that this phone doesn't have. This phone is a budget phone, and it's very obvious. The Nexus 4 was a budget phone, but was built like a premium device. I really do feel like I've gone from a premium phone to a budget phone and it's certainly noticeable to a degree. That said, the touchscreen feels more responsive than the N4 and the colour reproduction is superior. The battery also blows the N4 out of the water and I have to say, it's amazing how long you can get out of this phone. I'm a serious power user, so the N4 really wasn't appropriate for me.... but this is ideal. The N4 however, is the first phone I've ever owned that I didn't hate by the end.
It's a shame the LG Optimus G had no SD slot either. I would have happily gone for that.
Regardless, happy at the moment and enjoying the liberation of plenty of space. I'm still watching the price of the Huawei Ascend Mate 7 though. That's a fantastic beast and would be my first choice if it wasn't so expensive.

gnome_mo said:
Could you please point me in the right direction as to where and how to get unofficial 5.1 port? Waiting for OTA is sooo frustrating
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There are some 5.1 ports here in the Nexus 4 forum

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There are some 5.1 ports here in the Nexus 4 forum
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I'm wondering if Google will put out a 5.1 release. Quite obvious that the Nexus 4 hardware is easily capable, so really, it will be down to whether Google are ready to kill off the old girl. At least you know with Nexus that there will always be custom ROM's available to support you down the line eh?

skezza said:
I'm wondering if Google will put out a 5.1 release. Quite obvious that the Nexus 4 hardware is easily capable, so really, it will be down to whether Google are ready to kill off the old girl. At least you know with Nexus that there will always be custom ROM's available to support you down the line eh?
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Nexus 4 will get 5.1 I'll guarantee you that.

flopower1996 said:
Nexus 4 will get 5.1 I'll guarantee you that.
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Good stuff. I think in a time where phones are now becoming almost too powerful, the only thing that Google need to get sorted is that the updates keep coming and that manufacturers should be expected to provide them too.

Thanks for sharing
Best of luck to you and your new device

Ha, one benefit of this new phone. For some reason, Three don't know when I'm tethering lol
I'm enjoying all the Tethering'y goodness, without the limits lol.

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Ha, one benefit of this new phone. For some reason, Three don't know when I'm tethering lol
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This should be perfectly possible on the Nexus 4. I do it with T-Mobile here in the US.