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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4KmQ6Sfr3Vk#!
Did no one see this?

Guess one of Google's Nexus 4 employees has been a bad boy
Damn shame the review is in whatever language it is in.
Nice catch tho OP!

ap3604 said:
Guess one of Google's Nexus 4 employees has been a bad boy
Damn shame the review is in whatever language it is in.
Nice catch tho OP!
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haha..yea..thanks...it is in Arabic if I am not wrong.
Here is another, shorter one though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JNp31NgeWug

Looks like an old test device or sth, the back says with google instead of nexus. Also, the software is kinda of different from what 4.2 is supposed to be. Also, I can understand what he's saying and he didn't say anything that important....

Thanks for the link. It look different from the PlayStore photo which doesn't have that chrome frame which reminded me way too much of the iPhone 3G. Really hope there is no chrome frame.

mohamed.qadiqadi said:
Looks like an old test device or sth, the back says with google instead of nexus. Also, the software is kinda of different from what 4.2 is supposed to be. Also, I can understand what he's saying and he didn't say anything that important....
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Oh..i didnt notice that..thanks!

Definitely a test version. He has to swipe down twice on the notification bar to get to the quick settings menu. Doesn't look like there is a button on the top right like we saw in the verge video.
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WTF with the thread title
but thank u anyway

yahyoh said:
WTF with the thread title
but thank u anyway
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Lol...no.problem..
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eksasol said:
Thanks for the link. It look different from the PlayStore photo which doesn't have that chrome frame which reminded me way too much of the iPhone 3G. Really hope there is no chrome frame.
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There is, sadly. The only thing I dislike about the look of this phone.

I'm Lebanese, and I speak pretty fluent Arabic... I understand this perfectly. haha

Auto brightness bug - Please vote

I am sure many of us are experiencing the annoying auto brightness bug on our Nexus 7 that got introduced with version 4.2. Please go to the link below and vote for this issue (star it), as it doesn't seem to be on Google's radar right now more votes will definitely put it there. Thank you!
[Edit] looks like I don't have enough posts to add links yet. Can someone please post a link to issue 39841 on code.Google.com for me?

Auto-brightness has never worked right on any Android-device I have ever owned, it's the first thing I always turn to manual, and I doubt that'll change anytime soon.
If it were up to me, I would remove it from Android altogether.

jadephyre said:
Auto-brightness has never worked right on any Android-device I have ever owned, it's the first thing I always turn to manual, and I doubt that'll change anytime soon.
If it were up to me, I would remove it from Android altogether.
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Agreed. On my aging HTC Wildfire, still running FroYo, I have Auto-brightness disabled.
On my Nexus 7, I have both Auto-brightness and PRISM/SmartDimmer disabled.
...and I doubt the supposed battery saving benefits of either are much to get excited about...
Rgrds,
Ged.

jadephyre said:
Auto-brightness has never worked right on any Android-device I have ever owned, it's the first thing I always turn to manual, and I doubt that'll change anytime soon.
If it were up to me, I would remove it from Android altogether.
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Well, that's pretty sad. It works so seamless on iOS devices, you don't even notice it working.

AW: Auto brightness bug - Please vote
konradsa said:
Well, that's pretty sad. It works so seamless on iOS devices, you don't even notice it working.
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Well, i don't know about iDevices, i only ever used the first iphone for a few months before I bailed and went to Android.
Also, don't know why it doesn't work right on Android, probably because every manufacturer uses different light-sensors.
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jadephyre said:
Well, i don't know about iDevices, i only ever used the first iphone for a few months before I bailed and went to Android.
Also, don't know why it doesn't work right on Android, probably because every manufacturer uses different light-sensors.
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Well, anecdotally it worked much better on the N7 up to 4.2 came around, even if it wasn't perfect. So at the very least they can go back to that behavior. Please vote!

+1 vote for this thread to be closed..
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Lim Wee Huat said:
+1 vote for this thread to be closed..
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And the reason is?

So I take it that google just doesnt care about the consumer experience.

Just got a nexus 4 for a friend and I am appalled at how average the screen still looks with stock kernel, how on earth has google not fixed this yet? Why does someone need to install franco kernel or whatever to get the best use of the hardware? Wasnt sheer optimization the hallmark of nexus? What is google doing it doesnt even care.
Similar was the story with the nexus S. You needed custom kernel to unlock the audio capability of the phone because google didnt want us to listen to such audio quality? It was simply appalling and did not make any sense at all especially after listening just how much difference it made to the sound quality and power.
I dont have much experience with the galaxy nexus so I cant say but once again the same old BS with the nexus 4, install custom kernel for blah blah cuz google is too lazy/doesnt care. Franco kernel makes such a big difference to the screen and there is obviously no "drawback" to this that I can see so what is google doing? It doesnt want its users to use their smartphones on a more beautiful screen with no cost added? The nexus 4 stock screen is even worse than the i9023 nexus S, what more can be said!!
PS: I am a power user and have no issues installing custom roms and kernels but due to google's indifference on so many things it seems like the nexus isnt that great a phone for noobs as it could be.

The screen looks much better now in Android 4.3

"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.

Saketme said:
The screen looks much better now in Android 4.3
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That would be great.
vanmarek said:
"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.
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But noobs do have geek friends. I have made 2 of my "noob" friends to purchase a nexus 4 when they were all set to get the galaxy S3.

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"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.
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Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.

Gambler_3 said:
Just got a nexus 4 for a friend and I am appalled at how average the screen still looks with stock kernel, how on earth has google not fixed this yet? Why does someone need to install franco kernel or whatever to get the best use of the hardware? Wasnt sheer optimization the hallmark of nexus? What is google doing it doesnt even care.
Similar was the story with the nexus S. You needed custom kernel to unlock the audio capability of the phone because google didnt want us to listen to such audio quality? It was simply appalling and did not make any sense at all especially after listening just how much difference it made to the sound quality and power.
I dont have much experience with the galaxy nexus so I cant say but once again the same old BS with the nexus 4, install custom kernel for blah blah cuz google is too lazy/doesnt care. Franco kernel makes such a big difference to the screen and there is obviously no "drawback" to this that I can see so what is google doing? It doesnt want its users to use their smartphones on a more beautiful screen with no cost added? The nexus 4 stock screen is even worse than the i9023 nexus S, what more can be said!!
PS: I am a power user and have no issues installing custom roms and kernels but due to google's indifference on so many things it seems like the nexus isnt that great a phone for noobs as it could be.
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I think the screen is pretty good on my stock nexus 4 and thats from someone whos been a amoled user from the very start and i dont think google is the only one which didnt unlock its audio capabilities as samsung did the same with their galaxy s, that needed a kernel change i.e voodoo sound to release the full wolfson power.

Most people I know never even heard of the Nexus. I have to explain to them it is a Google phone. It isn't that Android doesn't care about the consumer. It is that this phone isn't targeted towards the average consumer. It is more a developers phone and such being the case, tweaking can be left for the great developers here.
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Threads started by Gambler_3:
- Who eats Pasta on a rainy day ???
- Why is there no mention of Kangaroos in the Bible? They're such an exciting animal..
- [POLL] I shot the sheriff, but i did not shoot ...
and my personal best:
-Who let the Sheep out ???
for the rest check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=202763890

hammer2007 said:
I think the screen is pretty good on my stock nexus 4 and thats from someone whos been a amoled user from the very start and i dont think google is the only one which didnt unlock its audio capabilities as samsung did the same with their galaxy s, that needed a kernel change i.e voodoo sound to release the full wolfson power.
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Yes but its an old story now, I havent heard of any such thing with the S3 and S4.

I think you've missed the point of the Nexus line. First and foremost it is a developer oriented platform. If it was meant to be pretty and have tons of near-useless eye candy and apps you'd be looking at an iPhone or Samsung or HTC. Customize the Nexus however you want, it is meant to be a blank slate.
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rayiskon said:
Threads started by Gambler_3:
- Who eats Pasta on a rainy day ???
- Why is there no mention of Kangaroos in the Bible? They're such an exciting animal..
- [POLL] I shot the sheriff, but i did not shoot ...
and my personal best:
-Who let the Sheep out ???
for the rest check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=202701407
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From the sharp mind that brought you 'all android apps have lag' and 'I don't understand why people complain about on screen buttons'... Here comes another epic thread.
Please everyone, take a look at the wonderful content that comes out of this guy's mind.
Look at it and lose the last hope you had in humanity!
Just kidding , don't.
He's a lame troll, don't feed the critter.
Pretty much the Uwe Boll of xda, top quality content.
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Thanks @drakester but I think the best thing is that honestly I don't think Gambler even owns Nexus 4.
So I'm not sure why to crap with all the negativity against it or Google and in this day and age with so many choices I can't even comprehend why not to go with the device you like instead of complain or sit down and start tweeking the way you want it - its Android! And please don't say there are limitations to what you can do with the customisation...
Or as an alternative please construct proper discussion and not complain.
Edit: please.... Power user? Or maybe yes you are right just a user indeed. So if yoy have so many issues why not to create something that everyone else could use it and enjoy it and you can set Google example how you believe things should be done.
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Saketme said:
Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.
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I assume you are being sarcastic as the N4 has not been a massive hit. And if I asked my friends what the Nexus 4 was, I don't think a single one of them would know it was a phone.

Saketme said:
Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.
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fernandezhjr said:
Most people I know never even heard of the Nexus. I have to explain to them it is a Google phone. It isn't that Android doesn't care about the consumer. It is that this phone isn't targeted towards the average consumer. It is more a developers phone and such being the case, tweaking can be left for the great developers here.
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I agree with ya man. I recently switched from tmobile to metropcs and the guy in the metro store kept asking me...
"is this an android phone?"
yes...it is its the nexus 4.
"ive never heard of it. we carry tons and tons of phones but never seen this one"....are you positive its an android phone...
yes. im positive its running 4.2.2 jelly bean.....
"hmmmm ive never seen this before."
well its the google phone. i bought it straight from google

Everyone who knows android, knows what a nexus device is.........you must be being sarcastic. Let's judge a phones success by what the nimrod at metro PCS says???????
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So you claim to be a power user but you don't check the forum reactions before buying a phone????
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Everyone things I have a galaxy, no one in their right mind knows what this thing is. They'll ask if that's the new HTC, Android, Droid, Samsung, Galaxy S, S4, or iPhone (??).
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Ace42 said:
Everyone things I have a galaxy, no one in their right mind knows what this thing is. They'll ask if that's the new HTC, Android, Droid, Samsung, Galaxy S, S4, or iPhone (??).
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One of the reasons why I get a nexus. Everywhere I have gone, it grabs attention. People used to seeing S3s and iPhones go 'that's a cool looking phone, which one is it'. Has even been a good conversation starter for me a few times. One time when I said it was from LG, this guy was like 'lg makes such nice phones too?!!'? LOL

N4 is relatively unknown, Google intended it to be that way..... imho, that's the only thing that makes any sense. Had the n4 had half the marketing the s3 or s4 had I think the n4 would've really made some noise.
What a shame, so many miss out on experiencing pure vanilla awesomeness
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[Reviews] Hands-on with the Nexus 5

I figured I'd start a thread and group all the reviews out there so far.
Here's some great reads with a lot of awesome pictures:
MobileSyrup Review: http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/10/31/hands-on-with-the-nexus-5/
Engadget Review: http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/31/google-announces-nexus-5/
Tech Crunch: http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/31/hands-on-with-the-nexus-5-and-android-4-4-kitkat/
CNET: http://cnettv.cnet.com/google-nexus-5-souped-up-android-kitkat-lte/9742-1_53-50158275.html
Gigaom: http://gigaom.com/2013/10/31/nexus-5-hands-on-looks-like-an-impressive-google-android-flagship/
AndroidCentral: http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5-and-android-44-kitkat-video-walkthrough
Video Reviews:

that verge video is such a pile of crap
i mean, really. that's the guy they get to introduce a brand new phone? lol

N4 vs S4 isnt really a review video. Just comparing the specs but there is no device being shown in the video at all

lolcopter said:
that verge video is such a pile of crap
i mean, really. that's the guy they get to introduce a brand new phone? lol
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LOL at "cameras in androids are not impressive" and "lag which is usual for android phones".
I smell an iSheep...

klin1344 said:
LOL at "cameras in androids are not impressive" and "lag which is usual for android phones".
I smell an iSheep...
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+1
Cheers!!
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klin1344 said:
LOL at "cameras in androids are not impressive" and "lag which is usual for android phones".
I smell an iSheep...
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that's the verge for ya

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that's the verge for ya
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Even Chris Pirillo fell for that 'lag' exercise/flicking the screen when showing the N4 versus iPhone...I'm like..HELLO! WHO the f uses their phone that way!?! No one. Period. It's a stupid exercise that proves nothing. Compare the units in NORMAL navigation, and you MIGHT detect smoother operation, but I detect it as SLOWER operation.

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Even Chris Pirillo fell for that 'lag' exercise/flicking the screen when showing the N4 versus iPhone...I'm like..HELLO! WHO the f uses their phone that way!?! No one. Period. It's a stupid exercise that proves nothing. Compare the units in NORMAL navigation, and you MIGHT detect smoother operation, but I detect it as SLOWER operation.
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Chris Pirillo is a tool. Who cares what he thinks?

tom9384 said:
Chris Pirillo is a tool. Who cares what he thinks?
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I used to...he loved the N4 at first, but then lost me with the iPhone comparison nonsense.

zephiK said:
N4 vs S4 isnt really a review video. Just comparing the specs but there is no device being shown in the video at all
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Yeah gotta love the videos that list specs, or just has a person ranting off to the camera.... Um there are better formats, like text & pictures for those kinds of things. Keep up the reviews, It'll keep me busy until my ordered N5 ships.

Added two more videos.

http://gigaom.com/2013/10/31/nexus-5-hands-on-looks-like-an-impressive-google-android-flagship/
Kevin Tofel is a great reviewer and gives Chrome/Chrome OS a lot of love so he's good in my book for that alone
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MaxCarnage said:
http://gigaom.com/2013/10/31/nexus-5-hands-on-looks-like-an-impressive-google-android-flagship/
Kevin Tofel is a great reviewer and gives Chrome/Chrome OS a lot of love so he's good in my book for that alone
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Added to the OP, thanks bud.

Saw
I'll see them all *,..,*

Another
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5-and-android-44-kitkat-video-walkthrough

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Another
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5-and-android-44-kitkat-video-walkthrough
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Added, thanks!

An other one, this time a white one *_* thx to this youtuber DD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yxRpsqt4Ik&list=PLxqB17zS5A_BqJabpPVc-CC1HCweEnzWy

Exel said:
Added, thanks!
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Thanks for adding our Androidizen video to your round up.

How has no one linked MKBHD's review?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dg2UIzIt4s

Google Nexus 5 review - on my blog.

nexus 7 art runtime please complain here

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?can=2&start=0&num=100&q=&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=62375

Having tried it on my Nexus 5 i cant see what all the fuss is about, yeah stuff opens a little quicker but its hardly life shattering.

wtf??
im using ART on my 2012 nexus 7 without issue. sure, a few apps donr work on ART(like pandora) but the device seems like it took a dose of speed. its fast without ART, but faster with. ART isnt available on the nexus 7(2012) stock img, but it is available for the nexus 7 on aosp builds.

MrBelter said:
Having tried it on my Nexus 5 i cant see what all the fuss is about, yeah stuff opens a little quicker but its hardly life shattering.
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I know that the reason it is not on here is because of I\O wear out on the flash memory.(Crappy chip)
This device can't handle the strain of ART.
I'm just a little irritated that google won't put it in the DEVELOPER!!!! options in there stock build.

simms22 said:
wtf??
im using ART on my 2012 nexus 7 without issue. sure, a few apps donr work on ART(like pandora) but the device seems like it took a dose of speed. its fast without ART, but faster with. ART isnt available on the nexus 7(2012) stock img, but it is available for the nexus 7 on aosp builds.
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I love that kernel
And thanks for the second link in your sig.
I dont want to load up another build though.
And geez. I would figure that google would put it in the for crying out loud developer options.
I like it completely stock.
I start from the ground up with modifying the build to my liking.
Thats why I'm a huge fan of Xposed Framework and the Arch Linux model.
Rant^

Why complain here? is anyone significant going read it.?

I think an explanation is what we need. Obviously it was a technical issue, but like every technical issue, Google leaves us in the dark and leaves us to speculate. I'd also like to know why we can't get a kernal higher than 3.1 when nvidia actually makes a 3.4 kernal too.
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Cor-master said:
I think an explanation is what we need. Obviously it was a technical issue, but like every technical issue, Google leaves us in the dark and leaves us to speculate. I'd also like to know why we can't get a kernal higher than 3.1 when nvidia actually makes a 3.4 kernal too.
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Then why post here? a developers forum of all places. if a problem if being had with google, go email em

-PiLoT- said:
Then why post here? a developers forum of all places. if a problem if being had with google, go email em
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I really don't care that much. As far as I'm concerned my nexus 7 feels more like an antique these days and art or a new Kernal isn't going to magically make it a tegra 4 or give it another gig of ram. I was just replying to the topic that's all, wasn't my creation
More or less agreeing with the op. But I think he meant click on the original link and post your complaints there, not here
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