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Atrix HD Developer Edition Coming soon

We’re happy to announce that the MOTOROLA ATRIX™ HD will be available in a Developer Edition and also be a supported device in the Bootloader Unlock program. It has the same features and specs as the regular MOTOROLA ATRIX HD, but allows the infinite customization possibilities offered by an unlockable bootloader. Unlocking a bootloader isn’t for everyone, but for some, it’s a must-have.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/11/06/announcing-the-motorola-atrix-hd-developer-edition/

Now that's some bull****.

I don't understand why they won't do it like HTC and let anyone opt in to unlocking their bootloader. I doubt there's any real changes. Just certain IMEIs or serial numbers are able to use the unlock.
When Moto shafted the Atrix users and reneged on updating the Atrix I should've stayed away. I don't understand how they sit down in a room and come up with these ideas and think the customer will not mind.

Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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Based on this announcement, can we ever expect an unlocked bootloader for our already purchased atrixes?
If not I might have to ditch the phone, which is really a shame.

It's still there. I tried to comment similarly though and it wouldn't let me.
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This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|

Are you effing kidding me???

SirHoover2010 said:
Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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AT&T refuses to allow the AT&T branded ATRIX HD to be in the unlock program... Motorola is now releasing an unlockable version and going past AT&T. And somehow Motorola are the morons?

ripin150 said:
This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
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+100,000,000
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Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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Yup, we've all been screwed, now we need to find a way to unlock the bootloader without moto's help. also, the only difference between that and the bell edition is that stupid at&t logo at the bottom of it... this is complete crap and such a waste for a phone with so much potential that is now just going to fade away to oblivion.

SirHoover2010 said:
Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.

mattlgroff said:
They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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I dont expect an unlocked bootloader. I just don't like having the option for an unlocked bootloader coming out a month and a half after I got the phone. Also I spoke with moto and asked about the retail version being unlocked and they said "I can not answer that question, as I do not have permission discussing that" so I have never heard motorola say that the Atrix hd will NEVER be unlocked. They may have but I have not heard it. Either way I like this phone, but they should have said MUCH earlier that they plan a dev edition so everyone that wanted the dev edition could wait. Not get stuck with the retail version.

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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."

mandrsn1 said:
That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
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I remember reading that several places. It's a shame the Moto can't do right by their customers and support us, rather than bowing to ATT. I understand they need ATT to carry their phones, but there needs to be an option for us. That is what is suppose to be what is great about android, the unlimited possibilities. A dev edition phone is helpful to those that don't already have the phone. I for one will not sell this phone then spend 250-350 more for the dev edition, I'll buy a sammy phone. I believe that since we are the customers that spend OUR money on their product, we should get more support. I for one will not buy another moto device if I don't see a huge improvement in the way the support their customers.

They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.

rquinn19 said:
They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
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My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it

SirHoover2010 said:
My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?

mandrsn1 said:
Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Correct.

Dev Edition Worth Waiting?

Struggling with getting the Dev edition and just getting the Verizon version when motomaker hits Verizon. There's the obvious plus with getting the Dev edition but I'm not crazy about the color scheme. Thoughts?

I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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GR36 said:
I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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What part of the ATT bands does the Roger device support?

As far as I know they are one and the same device just with an unlockable boot loader
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GR36 said:
I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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Could you post a screenshot of the fixed WiFi gap?
Where did you import from? EBay?
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Attached is fixed spacing.
I imported from a friend of a friend.. But they are on eBay yeah. Factor in VAT if you importing as I got hit with £95 bill

If you can live with 16GB of storage, just import the Rogers version (for the unlockable bootloader).

ms0chez said:
Struggling with getting the Dev edition and just getting the Verizon version when motomaker hits Verizon. There's the obvious plus with getting the Dev edition but I'm not crazy about the color scheme. Thoughts?
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I hope so!

I'm really getting tired of waiting... I saw Sprint and US Cellular have been added to the list of unlock codes posted by Motorola, no word on Verizon that I've heard. I did hear Dev Editions are about 2 weeks out, but I haven't seen that confirmed. I don't really care about picking my own color, it'd be nice but... I don't mind the color scheme of the Dev Edition or just getting friggin' a black one. I just would like Verizon to say when Dev Editions will be available or Motorola or Verizon to say if the codes will be coming out ever. I really want to get one the beginning of this week but don't know which way to go myself...

dubyajaysmith said:
I'm really getting tired of waiting... I saw Sprint and US Cellular have been added to the list of unlock codes posted by Motorola, no word on Verizon that I've heard.
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Oops - I somehow missed that you're on Verizon. Both AT&T and Verizon have made their stance on unlocked bootloaders pretty clear.

GR36 said:
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I imported from a friend of a friend.. But they are on eBay yeah. Factor in VAT if you importing as I got hit with £95 bill
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So beautiful without the AT&T logo and the stupid WiFi gap.
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thedosbox said:
Oops - I somehow missed that you're on Verizon. Both AT&T and Verizon have made their stance on unlocked bootloaders pretty clear.
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Yeah that is true. I don't quite understand the difference of offering me a code or selling me a dev edition but I rarely understand them. If anything they'd have a bit of proof of me voiding my warranty. I'll keep my cracked G nexus for a bit longer I suppose, see what time tells.

The Dev edition wont be available direct from at and t or verison. It is just able to be used on the network if bought from moto/best buy etc
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GR36 said:
The Dev edition wont be available direct from at and t or verison. It is just able to be used on the network if bought from moto/best buy etc
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Really... Any word on when bestbuy will sell or if you're still able to use an upgrade / subsidized price with them? I guess either way that tips the scale in my scenario though. Ordering by 3PM will get it in my hands Wednesday, probably doing that.
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Yeah. I know if I get the Dev edition I'd have to go through moto which I rather do cause I rather moto profit from my $600 something than VZW. But I think I'm more leaning towards moto maker when it hits VZW and the only reason I'm okay with this is because I think I could live with the moto x without being a crack flasher.

Looks like Dev edition only available in black or white oof contract from moto. T-Mobile is now and only available direct also
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I'm holding out on getting the developer edition although I'm getting a little impatient since not much has been announced. I've been spoiled by my G-nex's unlockable bootloader

I own the black moto x on verizon and im in love with the phone. Ill most likely sell this phone on swappa and pay a few extra bucks and get the DEV edition when its out. I feel like a solid black or white phone would be easier to resell.

[Q] Moto X Regular vs Developer Edition

Basically my questions are simple, I tried Googling quite extensively but cannot find a comprehensive answer.
Moto X Motomaker vs the Moto X Developer Edition pro and cons...
Here is what I think I know
Motomaker (MM from this point forward) is how you make it, has 16 and 32gb models and comes with a locked bootloader that must be unlocked to flash a ROM or change the fancy things like battery icons and the framework mods. Must wait for verizon to push updates to you at their own rate.. let me know if i'm wrong..
Developer Edition (DE from this for forward) is only 2 tone black and white and only available in 32gb. Bootloader is unlocked stock, can flash roms, change framework, custom apps, mod and tethering, android updates available whenever Google releases them or just come to XDA and find a leak.
I'm wondering if getting the DE is going to be worth the cost and if i comes BLANK with no Verizon bloat on-board. can i still use active notification and camera gesture etc if i flash a ROM?
I understand that the idea flashing a ROM is to get as close as humanly possible to stock android which it already is.
I'm going to be purchasing tomorrow so if you are all out there a timely response would be awesome!
On a side note I'm getting this phone to replace an S4 thats limping along with Safestrap and a Nexus Launcher.

Who's your carrier? T-mobile and Sprint allow you to unlock your bootloader http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/09/t-mobile-moto-x-added-to-motorola-bootloader-unlock-program/
If you have Verizon or AT&T you'll need to get the dev edition.
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Verizon Wireless..

Dev edition it is
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If you want to run latest versions of android as soon as possible, Developer Edition might not be the ticket. As you can see already, carriers have started to push out kitkat earlier than motorola itself.

Titanoxide said:
Basically my questions are simple, I tried Googling quite extensively but cannot find a comprehensive answer.
Moto X Motomaker vs the Moto X Developer Edition pro and cons...
Here is what I think I know
Motomaker (MM from this point forward) is how you make it, has 16 and 32gb models and comes with a locked bootloader that must be unlocked to flash a ROM or change the fancy things like battery icons and the framework mods. Must wait for verizon to push updates to you at their own rate.. let me know if i'm wrong..
Developer Edition (DE from this for forward) is only 2 tone black and white and only available in 32gb. Bootloader is unlocked stock, can flash roms, change framework, custom apps, mod and tethering, android updates available whenever Google releases them or just come to XDA and find a leak.
I'm wondering if getting the DE is going to be worth the cost and if i comes BLANK with no Verizon bloat on-board. can i still use active notification and camera gesture etc if i flash a ROM?
I understand that the idea flashing a ROM is to get as close as humanly possible to stock android which it already is.
I'm going to be purchasing tomorrow so if you are all out there a timely response would be awesome!
On a side note I'm getting this phone to replace an S4 thats limping along with Safestrap and a Nexus Launcher.
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I'm in the same boat. I think the idea of the Moto X is great especially since it's getting the updates in a timely manner. I wonder though if the Developer Edition would be any different. Just because it's a Developer Edition doesn't mean it's a Google Play Edition meaning it will probably only receive the update when the Moto Maker X gets an update. That being the case (if I'm correct). Should I purchase the Developer Edition over the Motor Maker X. The only thing I would need to do is wifi tether since I am still on unlimited data and use it daily.

I have the Verizon Dev edition, and the only reason why I got it was so that I can unlock it and root it. With Dev editions you can only get white. If you want to unlock and root and are on AT&T or Verizon, then get the Dev edition, otherwise just get the Moto Maker edition.

chuda.pati09 said:
I have the Verizon Dev edition, and the only reason why I got it was so that I can unlock it and root it. With Dev editions you can only get white. If you want to unlock and root and are on AT&T or Verizon, then get the Dev edition, otherwise just get the Moto Maker edition.
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What have you done with your Dev Edition Moto X that you couldn't have done with the Moto Maker Version? And I'm asking what have you done, not what you plan on doing. Given the opportunity to do it all over again would you get the Dev Edition again or would you get a Moto Maker version?

Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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bigmook said:
Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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LoL. Makes it even harder to decide if I want the Dev Edition or the Moto Maker personalized one tomorrow morning.

pablomoca said:
What have you done with your Dev Edition Moto X that you couldn't have done with the Moto Maker Version? And I'm asking what have you done, not what you plan on doing. Given the opportunity to do it all over again would you get the Dev Edition again or would you get a Moto Maker version?
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I have unlocked and rooted my phone, I have installed Xposed and Gravity Box, and Greenify. I also plan on changing the bootloader, but have not found one I liked.
I believe you can root the Moto X without unlocking the bootloader, but from what I understand it is a headache when OTAs come through and there are chances of it bricking the phone. Since I was able to unlock the bootloader, I was able to flash TWRP and flash SU. And I don't have to worry about OTAs screwing up my phone.
But I need to stress this, do not spend the extra money on Dev edition if you are not on Verizon or AT&T, the Moto Xs from Motomaker can be unlocked.
The only added bonus the Dev edition brings is that unlocking it does not void the warranty which is nice because there can be cases which arise when it is a manufacture defect which the warranty would cover and it is nice to have that protection. But if you unlock a non Dev edition, it will void the warranty.

I personally would go with the Dev edition. There is always bound to be something I want to do to it. Plus future proofing
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bigmook said:
Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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I did not unlock the bootloader until last week, which is also when I finally got time to unlock it and root the phone. But the change in warranty policy was a nice push.
I recommend unlocking and rooting your phone, I really missed Greenify and Titanium Backup. It might be a placebo effect or being on break last week I didn't use the phone as I normally do, but Greenify really helped the battery life. I went almost 22 hrs and about 2 hrs of screen time with no recharge couple times, using (Snapchat, Chrome, Reddit News, SMS, Hangouts, Phone, Plume, Maps, CBS Sports) heavily. Hopefully when I go back to normal usage this occurs again.

I should have been thinking about this a lot sooner than tonight. I'm leaning towards the Moto Maker edition for the obvious reasons of the color options. All I need is root the main thing I care about is tethering. And if I'm not mistaken there are apps on the market that will allow me to do that without root. I currently have a rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 3 and the only thing I use root for is tethering.

I went for the developer edition. I think it is worth the money..
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What does the Dev edition offer that the retails does not?
1) a true custom recovery
2) no exploit needed for root
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Perhaps faster upgrade process, flagship product.. Investment in quality products...
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elpmet27 said:
Perhaps faster upgrade process, flagship product.. Investment in quality products...
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Your post doesn't add up...
" Perhaps faster upgrade process" - nope. Same for everyone. I believe motomaker version got it first...
"flagship product" - Motomaker is advertised, Dev edition is not known to all.
"Investment in quality products" - they are both the same phone.
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I'm planning to buy the Moto X today. I live in Asia/Middle East. Will the T-Mobile Off contract version work? Because i want to customize my phone through moto maker. I know LTE most likely most wont work, but my main concern is will it detect any sim and 3g data should work. Thanks for the help in advance.

varun.gid said:
I'm planning to buy the Moto X today. I live in Asia/Middle East. Will the T-Mobile Off contract version work? Because i want to customize my phone through moto maker. I know LTE most likely most wont work, but my main concern is will it detect any sim and 3g data should work. Thanks for the help in advance.
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yes t-mobile is sim unlocked and 3g should work.

Question about development

Moto X has been released in the end of summer and yet it looks pretty dead in here. What gives? Not a developer friendly phone?

I'm a new user of moto x (bought yesterday) and I think that devs are waiting for more upgrades to kit kat in all carriers and versions (VZ, ATT, GSM, rogers)

Not a lot of devs bought the phone. Also most people are happy with the phone as-is.

any phone with locked bootloaders will be not be super active with development. Also most people want aosp roms (CM, AOKP) etc, so we already basically have aosp on here anyway, so there isn't a lot of negativity about the lack of development

The Stock ROM is perfect, xposed framework makes it even more beyond perfect. If that's possible
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I figure camera and screen colors could be tweaked .....I heard those are weak spots.

I suspect sales of the Moto X are not quite as good as anticipated, which is a real shame since it's such an excellent phone.
Additionally, and most importantly, the two biggest carriers - AT&T and Verizon - have locked bootloaders for the subsidized versions, which comprise a vast majority of phone sales. Offering a dev edition isn't enough if you can't get that edition subsidized, since one of the major drivers of development is the popularity of a phone.
To boot, Motorola only recently changed their policy on unlocking bootloaders to not void the warranty, which may have driven some people to buy subsidized/locked versions rather than springing for the development edition. Aside from the development edition being ugly (IMO), it's hard to justify spending $500+ on something that has no warranty.

I dont get the point of dev edition phones that are so hard to root. i just spend like an hour reading here and still dont know how to root tmobile MX, and i've rooted all my phones with breeze starting with N1

kolyan said:
I dont get the point of dev edition phones that are so hard to root. i just spend like an hour reading here and still dont know how to root tmobile MX, and i've rooted all my phones with breeze starting with N1
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If you have a Dev edition Moto X it should take 5 minutes to root......
Flash a recovery in fastboot, then flash a SU package.
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droe411 said:
If you have a Dev edition Moto X it should take 5 minutes to root......
Flash a recovery in fastboot, then flash a SU package.
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thats what i though, but i cant find this anywhere. the only thread i found was dated Aug/Sept with this root method for tmobile and thread is locked now....(assuming tmobile and dev edition are the same phones)

kolyan said:
thats what i though, but i cant find this anywhere. the only thread i found was dated Aug/Sept with this root method for tmobile and thread is locked now....(assuming tmobile and dev edition are the same phones)
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If your bootloader is unlocked you should be able to do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47679799

chaoslimits said:
If your bootloader is unlocked you should be able to do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47679799
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Thanks. I'll give it a try. That's what I've always done before....

Developer Edition worth the extra $$

So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???

In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
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balleron24z said:
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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Not trying to start a flame war, but by the time Lenovo takes over, your X will be on your shelf and you'll be rocking a new phone anyway. All this panic is getting old. This deal has to go through all sorts of approvals will probably take a year or more before it takes shape. Plus, it's not like Lenovo bought Moto to totally dismantle it. They didn't become the dominant force in the PC world by making stupid decisions. Moto has huge brand name recognition in the US and they are currently making great strides with the X and G.
I actually think this will be a huge success for Moto. Also remember Moto has pushed a bunch of apps to the play store making updates Super easy.
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rweddy1 said:
So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
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Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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balleron24z said:
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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Great points. I loved Eclipse ROM on my G. Nexus, have to look into that once I get the Dev Edition.

It'd be good to look at the specs on the model you plan on getting, because there's a Dev edition for CDMA and for GSM, and different model numbers for them. But I believe you're right as well.
Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I can partially agree, Schaweet. I think that as long as the reigns are with Moto, then everything will stay great as is. Maybe even better, since Lenovo does have great products presently. Love their laptops/desktops. I'm just afraid that everything the Moto X and G are could be intruded upon by the software team at Lenovo, meaning the nice AOSP-type OS that Moto use might get a lot of unwanted modifications. I think that's the bigger concern, not how Moto will be as a company, but how their products will be influenced.
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Not trying to start a flame war, but by the time Lenovo takes over, your X will be on your shelf and you'll be rocking a new phone anyway. All this panic is getting old. This deal has to go through all sorts of approvals will probably take a year or more before it takes shape. Plus, it's not like Lenovo bought Moto to totally dismantle it. They didn't become the dominant force in the PC world by making stupid decisions. Moto has huge brand name recognition in the US and they are currently making great strides with the X and G.
I actually think this will be a huge success for Moto. Also remember Moto has pushed a bunch of apps to the play store making updates Super easy.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I am not sure, I referring to the Verizon Edition, GSM might be different.

Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Here you go.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
That shows the frequencies per model.
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balleron24z said:
It'd be good to look at the specs on the model you plan on getting, because there's a Dev edition for CDMA and for GSM, and different model numbers for them. But I believe you're right as well.
I can partially agree, Schaweet. I think that as long as the reigns are with Moto, then everything will stay great as is. Maybe even better, since Lenovo does have great products presently. Love their laptops/desktops. I'm just afraid that everything the Moto X and G are could be intruded upon by the software team at Lenovo, meaning the nice AOSP-type OS that Moto use might get a lot of unwanted modifications. I think that's the bigger concern, not how Moto will be as a company, but how their products will be influenced.
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Fair enough. It's a total guess about what they will do with the UI. I can say with a high degree of confidence that they won't update the X and add their UI. Going forward though, you never know. I'd hope they'd just push and market Motos existing strategy, but that's my consumer side hope. I would think the near AOSP UI that Moto has could be enough to provide the product difference they want to separate them from everyone else without some silly skin like TV.
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