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Okay simple question here, have a chance to buy a brand new sealed Atrix HD for $350. Just looking for some input on what you guys would do, to help me decide. Thanks in advance!
rtg293 said:
Okay simple question here, have a chance to buy a brand new sealed Atrix HD for $350. Just looking for some input on what you guys would do, to help me decide. Thanks in advance!
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If you want a phone with Top of the line Hardware and ICS that runs smooth and looks pretty stock. Then yes, the Atrix HD is a sexy phone.
If you are looking for a development community and want to do some flashing and Rom'ing then look for another phone.
I'd write more on this subject, but you are asking a question we have gone over a million times since the phone was released.
Look through the Atrix HD General forum. You will see a lot of post from SGS3 owners and HTC One X owners who returned their phones for the Atrix HD.
Atrix HD Cons:
Battery life is acceptable. But weak.
No NFC chip. (oh darn)
No FM Tuner (meh)
Camera Quality is effected tremendously by lighting conditions.
Battery Cannot be removed, charge time is slow. (no options for extended batteries and no keeping spare around)
No Root access.
Locked Bootloader. ( because of this, we have no root, no custom firmware or tweaked Kernels, and no ROMS!!!)
Look through the rest of the forum please. There is so much on the subject already so check it out for yourself.
For that price? Definitely
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Kedakari said:
Atrix HD Cons:
Battery life is acceptable. But weak.
No NFC chip. (oh darn)
No FM Tuner (meh)
Camera Quality is effected tremendously by lighting conditions.
Battery Cannot be removed, charge time is slow. (no options for extended batteries and no keeping spare around)
No Root access.
Locked Bootloader. ( because of this, we have no root, no custom firmware or tweaked Kernels, and no ROMS!!!)
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Meh, the development side will come with time, both atrix(es?) had locked bootloaders, so I expected nothing less with this one. We all just get to sit around the campfire and sing kumbaya until the webkit is realeased . NFC or FM aren't really issues at the moment, I'm in rural (and when I say rural, I mean RURAL) Virginia, me and possibly 20 other people in this town even know what NFC stands for . About the ONLY issue I've read about so far is that darn battery! Come on now Moto!
colts187 said:
For that price? Definitely
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LoL my thoughts exactly, almost too good NOT to get.
rtg293 said:
Meh, the development side will come with time, both atrix(es?) had locked bootloaders, so I expected nothing less with this one. We all just get to sit around the campfire and sing kumbaya until the webkit is realeased . NFC or FM aren't really issues at the moment, I'm in rural (and when I say rural, I mean RURAL) Virginia, me and possibly 20 other people in this town even know what NFC stands for . About the ONLY issue I've read about so far is that darn battery! Come on now Moto!
LoL my thoughts exactly, almost too good NOT to get.
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I didnt want to seem like a fan boy that would give you biased information. So I just gave you the cons and let you decide on your own.
I'm between Northern VA and Washington DC in the over developed Tysons area. So NFC and all that Jazz is picking up.
This area is like the east coast's version of Beverly Hills. EVERYONE around here either has the SGS3 or an Iphone.
Looking at the prices for off contract phones, I'd say you have a really good deal.
Get it, its a nice phone and it'll do what it was engineered to do.
As for boot loaders being unlocked, I think it was only the Original Atrix and the Atrix 4g that got unlocked. The Atrix 2 (The phone I upgraded from) Still has a locked bootloader, and STILL has no ICS.
My one and only complaint is that I had a lapdock that I could no longer use because Webtop OS was removed.
I could careless for the bootloader as I dont like messing with non-stock firmware and kernels.
I'd really like to see this phone being rooted because this phone has a lot of potential just in editing the build.prop to be a much better performing phone than the SGS3
Anyways, thats just my 2 cents.
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For that price? Definitely
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Yea for that price, it's too good to pass up. Plus Motorola is the best when it comes to RF and call quality. I keep hearing the build quality on
the Atrix HD is excellent. It's coming to Canada next week! You bet I'll be getting it.
If $49 is all you can afford the Atrix is a good choice. If you can afford $199 the Gs3 is the superior device. Bigger screen, bigger battery, double the RAM, superior camera in all lighting conditions, more dev support, NFC. If you dont like touchwiz, plenty of free launchers. If you don't like the plastic, easy to put a case on. Much harder to fix the shortcomings on the Atrix.
350$ is a great deal for this phone. I wouldn't miss it.
My opinion when i got the s3 i missed my 1x like no other then returned the s3 and went back to the 1x i sold my 1x to get this and havent missed it yet. The only thing im not liking that much is battery life but i can live with that. With the 1x i could easily make it through a day with 5 hour's screen on time with root 3 without root. So im getting about the same time without root. The screen is amazing to me i like it better than fhe 1x and s3 but thats just my opinion. This is an amazing phone for the price
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I was in the same boat. I was selling my Atrix 4G with lapdock, car dock, standard dock and a few accessories for $350, planning on upgrading to a galaxy S3 with the proceeds. I got an offer to trade straight up for an Atrix HD (no contract renewal required!) and I took it. I have only played with the phone for an hour or two so far and all seems great.
And... if push comes to shove, I should be able to get at least $350 out of it!
Kedakari said:
If you want a phone with Top of the line Hardware and ICS that runs smooth and looks pretty stock. Then yes, the Atrix HD is a sexy phone.
If you are looking for a development community and want to do some flashing and Rom'ing then look for another phone.
I'd write more on this subject, but you are asking a question we have gone over a million times since the phone was released.
Look through the Atrix HD General forum. You will see a lot of post from SGS3 owners and HTC One X owners who returned their phones for the Atrix HD.
Atrix HD Cons:
Battery life is acceptable. But weak.
No NFC chip. (oh darn)
No FM Tuner (meh)
Camera Quality is effected tremendously by lighting conditions.
Battery Cannot be removed, charge time is slow. (no options for extended batteries and no keeping spare around)
No Root access.
Locked Bootloader. ( because of this, we have no root, no custom firmware or tweaked Kernels, and no ROMS!!!)
Look through the rest of the forum please. There is so much on the subject already so check it out for yourself.
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Wow, HOX and GS3 users returned to get Atrix HD?! That is the perfect example of insanity. I wouldn't return my Atrix 2 for a AHD, let alone an HOX or my beloved GS3. Unlocked bootloader, removable battery, superior camera, incredible dev support, JB coming very soon, ridiculous aftermarket support.....who'd give that up for a device with pretty much the opposite of that?
I returned my hd and got another one x cuz the battery sucketh
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I got the AHD cause I had to... All in all, I'm kinda sorry I traded in my RAZR (which was basically a small tab, since I couldn't afford Verizon's wallet raping) for this phone... If I can afford to, I'm returning it, and getting an S III. I don't want that one either, but the options are far better...
I chose the red pill... Now I'm in the mAtrix and I know Kung Fu...
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This phone seems like a good value, nice build quality, great screen and nice design. Hope you don't mind me asking a few questions since I've been an iOS user for years and am an Android noob.
1. If music is imported from iTunes to this phone using the Welcome Home apps that AT&T provides, will it play in its current file format, or do I need to change the mp4 to mp3 in iTunes before transferring?
2. I have several email accounts (Yahoo, Comcast, Go Daddy) including Gmail where my contacts are stored. Is the stock email app on this phone unified and capable of adding all the accounts or do I have to use individual email apps? And does it offer both POP and IMAP types?
3. I understand the boot loader is locked but it's important to me that whatever phone I get that it can be updated to JB. Is it at all possible that Moto will update the OS?
4. Is it possible to move apps to the microSD or just photos, videos, etc?
Thanks.
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This phone seems like a good value, nice build quality, great screen and nice design. Hope you don't mind me asking a few questions since I've been an iOS user for years and am an Android noob.
1. If music is imported from iTunes to this phone using the Welcome Home apps that AT&T provides, will it play in its current file format, or do I need to change the mp4 to mp3 in iTunes before transferring?
2. I have several email accounts (Yahoo, Comcast, Go Daddy) including Gmail where my contacts are stored. Is the stock email app on this phone unified and capable of adding all the accounts or do I have to use individual email apps? And does it offer both POP and IMAP types?
3. I understand the boot loader is locked but it's important to me that whatever phone I get that it can be updated to JB. Is it at all possible that Moto will update the OS?
4. Is it possible to move apps to the microSD or just photos, videos, etc?
Thanks.
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1. not sure, but aiff files definitely don't work on android phones
2. Yes, and yes, but gmail decides to also add any gmail email you add which can be annoying sometimes (turn off notifications on one of the two apps)
3. it's debateable
4. as far as i know not from stock, but if anyone knows an app that can do this, i would love to know about it.
Well, been away for a couple of days, so I figure everyone needs an update on my original thread topic. I ended up buying it because, well, I am a sucker for a good deal. Initial impressions were about like everyone's experience. Silky smooth, almost vanilla-"like" UI, so-so battery life. I've got to say though, after letting the battery cycle a couple of times, and installing Juice Defender (first app that goes on ANY new phone I get), the battery life has improved significantly. I've been unplugged since about 5:45am, charged about 15 minutes on my hour lunch break in the car, it's now 11pm and I am at 70% with about an hour and a half or so of internet use, about 35 minutes of Backstab HD , and about 15 minutes of Angry Birds.
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2. I have several email accounts (Yahoo, Comcast, Go Daddy) including Gmail where my contacts are stored. Is the stock email app on this phone unified and capable of adding all the accounts or do I have to use individual email apps? And does it offer both POP and IMAP types?
3. I understand the boot loader is locked but it's important to me that whatever phone I get that it can be updated to JB. Is it at all possible that Moto will update the OS?
4. Is it possible to move apps to the microSD or just photos, videos, etc?
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2. I can answer this partly. The stock gmail app will let you add multiple gmail accounts, so I am assuming you can multiple email accounts also. And it does offer both POP3 and IMAP types.
3. I'm willing to step out on a limb and say yes it will receive an official JB update. If Google hadn't bought Moto, then I wouldn't be near brave enough to touch this topic lol, but I feel pretty secure saying it will receive the update.
4. I know you can do it with TI Backup on other phones, but that requires root, like all "good" android apps , so I'm assuming it may work when someone finally roots this thing. Don't let the "free app2sd" apps fool you though, I've tested about 7 or 8 of them on my AHD so far with no luck.
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Scratch that answer for 4, apparently app2sd was a feature taken out in ICS.
Yes or No
Thanks folks.. it appears nobody here has been a recent iOS user hence the unclear answer around whether I need to change the iTunes music format.. Am also wondering about ring tones since I created about a dozen using music from iTunes.
Meantime, I ordered a white AHD from Amazon and evidently due to lack of proper box labeling on Moto's part, I was shipped the wrong color twice, so we decided it was best to cancel the order until Amazon could get things figured out. It appears they have now, and showing some proper business etiquette they gave me two credits amounting to more than I paid for the phone
In the interim, I did some more research and read and watched some more reviews of which several reviewers thought the build quality was marginal and complained of flimsy power and volume buttons that were also loose. Has anyone here experienced this? Good to see that Juice Defender helps with the battery issue too since that is obviously another weak link.
And as you may know too, due to slower than desired sales of the HTC One X, the price is dropping to the same as the AHD on Sunday, making this is even more difficult choice, though the One X does not have a microSD slot and from what I've seen, has had some pretty major hardware issues along with a poor job with how Sense screwed up multi-tasking. Any thoughts or recommendations here? I have to wait a few days until my upgrade is reset anyway, so I'm going to take my time. Thanks.
rtg293 said:
Well, been away for a couple of days, so I figure everyone needs an update on my original thread topic. I ended up buying it because, well, I am a sucker for a good deal. Initial impressions were about like everyone's experience. Silky smooth, almost vanilla-"like" UI, so-so battery life. I've got to say though, after letting the battery cycle a couple of times, and installing Juice Defender (first app that goes on ANY new phone I get), the battery life has improved significantly. I've been unplugged since about 5:45am, charged about 15 minutes on my hour lunch break in the car, it's now 11pm and I am at 70% with about an hour and a half or so of internet use, about 35 minutes of Backstab HD , and about 15 minutes of Angry Birds.
2. I can answer this partly. The stock gmail app will let you add multiple gmail accounts, so I am assuming you can multiple email accounts also. And it does offer both POP3 and IMAP types.
3. I'm willing to step out on a limb and say yes it will receive an official JB update. If Google hadn't bought Moto, then I wouldn't be near brave enough to touch this topic lol, but I feel pretty secure saying it will receive the update.
4. I know you can do it with TI Backup on other phones, but that requires root, like all "good" android apps , so I'm assuming it may work when someone finally roots this thing. Don't let the "free app2sd" apps fool you though, I've tested about 7 or 8 of them on my AHD so far with no luck.
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Scratch that answer for 4, apparently app2sd was a feature taken out in ICS.
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I was an ios user (ipod touch 4) recently, but i never bought songs from itunes, though all of my songs except the .aiff files uploaded to google music easily, so i say go ahead and try that on your computer first, if it works you should have no problem.
I'm a former iPhone user and currently have a HOX. I was able to use google play music on my mac to transfer my songs to google music and then sync with the phone the google play music app allows to store music on the device or cloud (similar to how the iTunes cloud worked).
As for which device is better, I have had no hardware issues with the phone. Actually the hardware is pretty impressive even without the microSD card and the camera is second to none (that includes my wife's iPhone4s). My only gripe is multitasking but that is fixable by flashing various ROMs and rumored to be fixed in the next software release based on a leaked update. And now that HTC had released source, development is likely to only pick up.
So why am I hanging out in the MAHD forum? I'm intrigued by this device and the slightly smaller screen, the unlock button on the side versus the top and new Motorola skin. In fact I'm using the MAHD launcher and widgets on one.
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I had the hox and it was osm but something about this phone i dont miss the hox. I love the size and screen is osm. Prolly just my prefference
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I've seen a lot of ppl complaining about the storage capacity lately on the S4, it is understandable for us to install best looking games which takes up a lot of space and in less than you know it your internal storage will be full, it happened to me once.
I've found a solution to this, since apps cannot be normally store in external sd card well normally your sd card would solve this, but I've found an app called "FolderMount" for free on the play store, what this will do is move and mount the games/apk data from your internal to your external card being able to store many apps/games in the external card while having the internal sd card free of space.
Hopefully this will help some people out there struggling with internal space.
P.s. : This app of course requires root.
Also if you knew this, is ok don't spam me lol I'm just trying to help out some1 who might have this issue, thanks.
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Rasmux said:
I've seen a lot of ppl complaining about the storage capacity lately on the S4, it is understandable for us to install best looking games which takes up a lot of space and in less than you know it your internal storage will be full, it happened to me once.
I've found a solution to this, since apps cannot be normally store in external sd card well normally your sd card would solve this, but I've found an app called "FolderMount" for free on the play store, what this will do is move and mount the games/apk data from your internal to your external card being able to store many apps/games in the external card while having the internal sd card free of space.
Hopefully this will help some people out there struggling with internal space.
P.s. : This app of course requires root.
Also if you knew this, is ok don't spam me lol I'm just trying to help out some1 who might have this issue, thanks.
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No spam. There's a how to on foldermount AND link2sd written by me in my sig.
rawintellect said:
No spam. There's a how to on foldermount AND link2sd written by me in my sig.
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I don't see your sig, and I couldn't get link2sd working on this device!
gershee said:
I don't see your sig, and I couldn't get link2sd working on this device!
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go here
I paid for this app last week. It works great!
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I am waiting for the possibility of a sprint 32gb s4 because my upgrade date is June 1. I suppose those of you that already have a s4 would have gotten a 32gb knowing then what you know now? What are your thoughts? Apply this hack or play the wait and see game for a larger capacity s4? I am fairly certain sprint won't carry the 64gb, but I'm hoping they will eventually get the 32. If they don't, then maybe I will wait and see what the note 3 is all about.
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I am waiting for the possibility of a sprint 32gb s4 because my upgrade date is June 1. I suppose those of you that already have a s4 would have gotten a 32gb knowing then what you know now? What are your thoughts? Apply this hack or play the wait and see game for a larger capacity s4? I am fairly certain sprint won't carry the 64gb, but I'm hoping they will eventually get the 32. If they don't, then maybe I will wait and see what the note 3 is all about.
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Not for $100 more, I wouldn't have. The hacks works well enough for me. The only app I've used it on though is Google Music. The rest of my apps/data etc only come out to 3.44GB of system storage so far, music comes to up 10GB on 16GB (aka 14.83GB) SD card, so for me the 32GB version is not worth the extra cost. Additionally, because I run Linux I've been having a ton of problems with the MTP connectivity even after installing the "Google-made" packages specifically for Android devices. It's easier to transfer items by removing the SD card and inserting it, than trying to connect and transfer items using the MTP connection.
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Not for $100 more, I wouldn't have. The hacks works well enough for me. The only app I've used it on though is Google Music. The rest of my apps/data etc only come out to 3.44GB of system storage so far, music comes to up 10GB on 16GB (aka 14.83GB) SD card, so for me the 32GB version is not worth the extra cost. Additionally, because I run Linux I've been having a ton of problems with the MTP connectivity even after installing the "Google-made" packages specifically for Android devices. It's easier to transfer items by removing the SD card and inserting it, than trying to connect and transfer items using the MTP connection.
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I'm running linux as well and I don't have any problems connecting my phone to PC via USB cable.
What distro are you running?
I'm on 64bit Linux Mint14 cinnamon.
I had some connectivity issues wit my S3 with previous versions of linux but Mint14 took care of it and S4 is connecting just fine as well.
agat63 said:
I'm running linux as well and I don't have any problems connecting my phone to PC via USB cable.
What distro are you running?
I'm on 64bit Linux Mint14 cinnamon.
I had some connectivity issues wit my S3 with previous versions of linux but Mint14 took care of it and S4 is connecting just fine as well.
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Ahhh, I'm still on Mint 13. Guess I'll make sure to update to Mint 15 since it's just around the corner! Thanks.
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I'm running linux as well and I don't have any problems connecting my phone to PC via USB cable.
What distro are you running?
I'm on 64bit Linux Mint14 cinnamon.
I had some connectivity issues wit my S3 with previous versions of linux but Mint14 took care of it and S4 is connecting just fine as well.
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Same here, Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon with no issues. And I also would not drop another $100 for more internal storage
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I've got a 64gb sdxc in my e4gt just waiting to be utilized in a s4. I might give it until July or August to see of they ever get the 32's out. It's a given 64's won't come stateside. I'm not saying anyone is wrong but I highly doubt 16 to 32 will be a 100 dollar jump. Maybe, I'm guessing, 50 at the most. Anything over 300 is my limit for upgrade price unless it's a spectacular piece of hardware. Just a wait and see game as usual. I'm afraid the active will be different enough to not be popular enough for the dev scene to have root and recovery, let alone having much of a selection of after market stuff like batteries and cases. I want protection of a case for extended batteries like the e4gt. I hope someone offers a decent tpu case for the bigger battery too. I saw a pic of the battery cover for the big battery for the s4 and it wreaks of crappy quality. Thin and ugly. I also know another alternative could be getting a second OEM battery with external charger. Just swap out when needed. Has anyone determined the hooks on the body and cover are like the s3 in which they need to be snapped together in a certain order, lest it damages the snaps? I never had a s3 but did see the video about how easy it is to damage the cover if installed incorrectly.
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I've got a 64gb sdxc in my e4gt just waiting to be utilized in a s4. I might give it until July or August to see of they ever get the 32's out. It's a given 64's won't come stateside. I'm not saying anyone is wrong but I highly doubt 16 to 32 will be a 100 dollar jump. Maybe, I'm guessing, 50 at the most. Anything over 300 is my limit for upgrade price unless it's a spectacular piece of hardware. Just a wait and see game as usual. I'm afraid the active will be different enough to not be popular enough for the dev scene to have root and recovery, let alone having much of a selection of after market stuff like batteries and cases. I want protection of a case for extended batteries like the e4gt. I hope someone offers a decent tpu case for the bigger battery too. I saw a pic of the battery cover for the big battery for the s4 and it wreaks of crappy quality. Thin and ugly. I also know another alternative could be getting a second OEM battery with external charger. Just swap out when needed. Has anyone determined the hooks on the body and cover are like the s3 in which they need to be snapped together in a certain order, lest it damages the snaps? I never had a s3 but did see the video about how easy it is to damage the cover if installed incorrectly.
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Ive got an extra battery for the s4 with the battery charger and I gotta tell you I burn this phone's battery badly but I dont reach over 2 batteries in one day maximun I had was 50% left when I got home on the second battery I think is a better deal cuz all that bulk kinda looks ewww lol
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I don't care about the hump on the back as long as I have a good tpu case on it.
Hey all, first time actually posting here at XDA but been reading for quite a while. I'm in the market for a new phone (and probably switching from either Spring to Verizon or AT&T). I really like what I'm seeing on the Moto X except I'm a bit disappointed (as I'm sure others are) that Verizon only has the 16GB model.
So my question for those of you 16GB owners out there...Is it enough? I probably only need 4-5GB for music and don't download massive games. However I'm still a bit hesitant about buying a lesser amount just thinking ahead to the future. I know AT&T has 32GB but I kind of was hoping to go the Verizon route. What are your thoughts on the 16GB model for this phone?
EDIT: This should be in the Q&A thread, I apologize for that. Don't see any place where I can delete it and move it though :/
Definitely not enough for me...Thats one of the reasons why I havent purchased one which verizon isnt offering the 32gb non development device yet..I know a lot of people will chime in and say the damn cloud...lol
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antawnm26 said:
Definitely not enough for me...Thats one of the reasons why I havent purchased one which verizon isnt offering the 32gb non development device yet..I know a lot of people will chime in and say the damn cloud...lol
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Yeah figured people would. Not really my thing though...I could see it for all my photos, videos etc... but I don't really want to use all my data to stream music from the cloud Does it seem likely Verizon will get the 32GB version when they get Moto Maker this year? I know they were only a few months behind with the 32GB S4 so hopefully it's in the works.
It depends on the person... Its enough for me, but I don't keep music, videos or pictures on the device (and I have unlimited). However I can see how it can be too little for a lot of people.
16g is absolutely not enough........32g is barely enough......
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16GB is enough for me, I use spotify for music and i backup all my photos/videos to google drive when im at home. Only really stuff i keep on my phone are some offline playlist from spotify and recent photos i took.
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16GB is enough for me, I use spotify for music and i backup all my photos/videos to google drive when im at home. Only really stuff i keep on my phone are some offline playlist from spotify and recent photos i took.
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Same here. I used to have unlimited, but then work took over and pays for the service and the phone also. So 16GB is enough for me. Photos get backed up to G+ and All Access Music is nice.
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Yeah figured people would. Not really my thing though...I could see it for all my photos, videos etc... but I don't really want to use all my data to stream music from the cloud Does it seem likely Verizon will get the 32GB version when they get Moto Maker this year? I know they were only a few months behind with the 32GB S4 so hopefully it's in the works.
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It's hard to tell with Verizon honestly....I am thinking that they will offer the moto x 32gb in non dev when moto maker is available...But unfortunately who knows when that is....I cant see spending that money for the Moto X and not use the moto maker...The moto maker to me is what you are paying for
It's more than enough for me. I came from a 32gb HTC one and it hasn't been an issue. I used a lot more space on the ONE since I was rooted with custom ROM and such. Backups and different Roms ate up a lot of space but with the x it's perfect out of the box so I don't have custom recovery etc taking up space. Each user is different but I find 16gb more than enough for me. I have about 300 songs, 200 photos, about 50 apps and still have 5gb free space left.
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It just depends on what your doing. I have never used a lot of space on my phone. There's so many other ways to store and access information.
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I could care less about on phone storage. Had a one x+ and only used like 5 GB. But to each their own. If I didn't have unlimited data then it would be different.
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This question comes up with every new phone lately...
For me, 16gig and no SD card, is not enough. 16gig with SD is marginal.
Even though I'm still on an older VZW unlimited data plan, with every one of my phones so far, streaming music doesn't work well while driving or on the go. The slightest signal drop, or change (between 3G/4G) causes a disruption in the music. Therefore I keep a bit of songs on my phone to listen to. Using Rhapsody, they now have an option to store their downloaded music to SD card, Google Play Music doesn't appear to have it, and needs to be kept on internal storage.
I have/use Zinio to read magazines while at the allergy doctor once a week, and sometimes at lunch during the work week. It stores that locally.
I also keep pix and video of my son on my phone, and like the ability to take longer videos of him if he is doing something funny. While I have both a Digital SLR and "Point-n-Shoot", and I know a camera phone doesn't take as good of pictures/videos as a stand alone digital camera does, I always have my phone on me, and don't usually take my cameras with me unless its a special trip. So as they say, the best camera is the one you have with you.
Having a 16gig phone, leaving about 8-10gig free out of the box, doesn't give me much wiggle room for keeping music, the occasional game, magazines and the pix/video I take with the camera. Having 32gig, or 16 + SD card is definitely better for my needs and wants.
On the other hand, my wife could get away with a 16gig phone. Her usage is different. She streams everything, but usually at her desk at work, or while she is exercising, so loss of service isn't much of an issue. She desn't use many apps or games, and runs pretty much stock. While she takes a lot of photos of our son, she doesn't do as much video, and without music or magazines, she still has plenty of room left on her phone.
Thanks for the replies! I will probably try to hold out for the 32gb if possible, but if Verizon doesn't get it I could probably live with 16. I figured it would be a personal preference thing, but just thought I would ask some folks who actually had the moto x.
I wish Verizon would just announce it! But of course it might be better for sales if you aren't causing people to hold out for the bigger phone...On the other hand, they might be losing some sales on the phone if people think they won't ever get a bigger storage version.
For me, on the previous phone, the big consumers were ROMs and backups. I don't care about keeping either on this phone - I bought it because I like the stock OS and won't be flashing.
After installing my apps and downloading about 1 GB of music and some books that I read often, I still have 7 GB available (out of 11.88 that you get on the internal partition). I will still need to download maybe 500 MB of podcasts. Photos and videos can take up several GB with time (but can also be uploaded to G+, Drive or Amazon Cloud, or... wherever - it's always a good idea to back them up remotely anyway).
Remember you do get 50 GB free for 2 years on Google Drive, so you can offload some stuff there.
I don't store movies on the phone - that's what the tablet is for. You can always use OTG if you want to temporarily have movies on it to entertain the kids (or yourself ) on a trip or something.
Anyway, I was hesitant about the 16 GB as well. It was the only thing holding me back. After I evaluated, I came to the above conclusion and it works for me (so far).
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I found this on another forum. https://shopmeenova.appspot.com/st/order.html
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Wow, very nice idea! I was actually wondering if something like this existed.
DarthSudo, I think I could manage in that same way. I would probably only load on a couple gigs of music at a time and just keep my photos/videos backed up to G+ (which can be done over wifi for those of us who will be without unlimited data). However, I may still hold out for MotoMaker at least on Verizon. It does seem kind of cool and like it's one of the main points of the phone.
I use to think any amount of storage really wouldn't be enough and I always wanted an SD expansion. But I've come to realize that you don't need hard storage. I use Google Music for all of my music now. it allows me to access it on any computer or my phone anywhere without me manually managing storage synchronization. I still have unlimited data on my line but I also use WiFi heavily so I rarely go over 2GB of data on my line. Files are synced over Google drive and have been even before the extra 50GB from my MX. I don't really do video other than the occasional YouTube view. If these situations sound like you then 16GB should be more than enough.
I know we all love this phone, it is awesome. Super Fast, Super intuitive stock android, Super pretty, but lets be honest What's the one issue that Makes you want to get rid of the phone and never look back.
I didn't know how important a microsd card was to me until I used this phone. I used to have my entire music collection on my GS4 and while I still have online access to everything, I really miss not having to use up all my data and really being able to listen to anything anytime anywhere. Also pinning music for offline use through Google music sucks when you have thousands upon thousands of tracks and might forget what you have and haven't saved for offline play.
What's your issue that made you rethink your purchase for a slit second.
I knew there was no sd card going in and embraced it. I think it's easier to keep track of what's on storage and I obviously bought a 32 GB.
No complaints with the phone here. Well except I would have bought a red one.
Oh, ibl
Complaining isn't going to help.
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What's your issue that made you rethink your purchase for a slit second.
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nothing
I haven't rethought at all. As is a small bugbear but it hasn't made me rethink
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For the average user, most phone companies now are not including an SD card on pretty much all of their phones (except samsung.) With cloud storage and high speed internet available at your finger tips, just stream it all. Google will let you store like 20,000 songs free and stream them. It may be a strain on your data plan, but if you're at home or the office, just use wifi.
The point of the fact is, if 16GB isn't enough, they make you buy the 32GB phone. If that still isn't enough for you, they recommend you use their services and apps to fill in the gap.
For me it's not having USB audio on stock.
Many people have no idea what this means, and even if they did it wouldn't matter to them, but to music quality snobs such as myself, it really irks me.
Especially because iphones have usb audio.
Cyanogen and probably some other roms support usb audio so it is possible to get with this phone
But I really feel this should be on stock android, and on every single phone.
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For the average user, most phone companies now are not including an SD card on pretty much all of their phones (except samsung.) With cloud storage and high speed internet available at your finger tips, just stream it all. Google will let you store like 20,000 songs free and stream them. It may be a strain on your data plan, but if you're at home or the office, just use wifi.
The point of the fact is, if 16GB isn't enough, they make you buy the 32GB phone. If that still isn't enough for you, they recommend you use their services and apps to fill in the gap.
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This. ^^^^^^^^^^^
To the OP, may I offer a suggestion:
Use a large portion of your internal storage to store the albums/tracks you listen to w/ the most frequency, and leave the online storage for the remainder. Obviously you can swap between the two whenever you'd like, but seems like it would make the most sense given the fact that you still decided to go w/ a N5.
May not serve your "any track, any time, anywhere" purpose fully, but will save you data and still allow you quick access to a good portion of your media.
I have to say, the limitation on storage does not bother me in the slightest. Sure it would be -nice- to be able to expand the storage, but in this day and age, data is getting cheaper and cheaper, and services that stream media are getting better and easier to use.
Why do we need more storage? how many apps are you truly going to install? how much music do you really need to take with you at all times?
personally, I have a network attached storage, which does owncloud. Through this, and the owncloud app, I stream all of my media to my phone wherever I am.
One could also use a service such as dropbox, or even just listen to online radio streams or even watch netflix for movies.
"The Cloud" is all the rage these days, and it's getting more and more cost effective to use such services. So really, why do we need an SD slot? why do we need additional storage?
I have a 128 GB USB drive attached to my key chain, and a USB otg cable in my wallet all the time... No need for an sd card here... Just wish there was an i r blaster
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I have a 128 GB USB drive attached to my key chain, and a USB otg cable in my wallet all the time... No need for an sd card here... Just wish there was an i r blaster
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That'll do it right there.
I was preaching this a year ago when people were bagging in the HTC One and no SDcard slot. LOL
I have the 16 gig and no issue.... well it's because I have Sprint and have decent service in Houston so pulling anything from/to the cloud is a no worries situation for me!!
Get one of these.
http://www.meenova.com/
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+1 for meenova, I use it almost everyday
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I have a 128 GB USB drive attached to my key chain, and a USB otg cable in my wallet all the time... No need for an sd card here... Just wish there was an i r blaster
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Yup, who needs an elegant solution like MicroSD card when we can carry USB drives and OTG cables :good:
your thread name is misleading. love is unconditional, period. if you have conditions to get your love, that isnt love. you dont love your phone. i love my nexus 5, with every perfection and misperfection it has
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I have edited the title because I think I am giving people the wrong impression. The point I was making is that even though somthing is awesome, because we are all individuals and this is a mass market device there are bound to be things about the phone that erk us, maybe its only an issue to you. I didn't intend this to be an sd card complaint thread, Just a chance for everyone to vent their idiosyncrasies.
The nexus 5 is probably the best phone I've used/owned hands down. No regrets whatsoever
I definitely love this phone. I came from the Note 3 and do not miss that phone one bit although it wasn't a bad phone either. I have more than enough gigabytes (32gb) and if I felt that 32gb wasn't enough then I would of stuck with the Note 3 (which has expandable memory) or bought a phone that offered expandable memory.
I do not agree with streaming from the cloud as alternative unless you have a true unlimited 4g/LTE plan. Also I would hate to walk around with USB OTG as an option. OP next time get a phone with expandable memory or hope they make the N6 in a 64gb version.
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I hate the headphone jack at the top.
Whatchu talking bout willis!
I have a very large music collection. All of the tracks are in a mySQL database. I made a little bash script that randomly selects about 8gb at a time and copies the tracks to the phone. I am more than satisfied.
I am trying to decide if I want to get in on the last week for Cricket with the htc 510 for free after rebate.
Reading up on this phone it looks like you do have root but the 64bit cpu is causing a hinderance with getting things like TWRP recovery and cyanogenmod.
It also doesn't appear to have little quality build things like gorilla glass.
Since the phone really isn't free, you have to pay for service for a month or two, I am wondering if anyone would hesitate to sink money into it again.
I don't see the benefit of 64bit on a phone and being the first means it also will be last to get software extras.
no, due to its complicated steps of hacking
- unlock bootloader (relock, and re-unlock (not available yet?)),
- TWRP recovery not assessable after relock bootloader (fastboot oem lock)
- cricket online would show device as "non-cricket device" and your phone's bootloader would say "TAMPERED" -> reduced resale value
- scarce ROM options compared to MOTO G
- ROM/radio/kernel options are mixed up for Sprint/Boost/Virgin/Cricket and no one knows for sure which works on which...
- digitizer seems not register touches properly. you need to touch lower part of what you wanted to touch (button, softkey) to get the phone respond
- digitizer seems sometimes less responsive to touches while other times too sensitive to a little moistures (like sweat from hands)
- its charging port on the right bottom side make it inconvenient to get docked in the phone holder in my car and be charged in the same time. (The stopper is usually on both sides of the phone, leaving the middle part open (where most phones having their charging ports))
i have mine in light use since 12/26 and i regretted my decision, I used MOTO G before but I dislike its round and curve back case and I wanted to experience stock Sense UI. So I took the chance experiencing it... but...
if you have a MOTO G in mint condition from cricket (LTE-support), I'd consider a trade with the extra $25 LOL
good luck
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i have mine in light use since 12/26 and i regretted my decision, I used MOTO G before but I dislike its round and curve back case and I wanted to experience stock Sense UI. So I took the chance experiencing it...
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Well at the risk of turning this into a not-allowed phone vs phone thread, I'll just point out that while the quality of the Moto G is undeniable and worth the $25 extra, the problem is the model Cricket uses for their Moto G is locked down hard with no available bootloader unlock and no root, so forget roms.
Only reason why I was considering the HTC 510
I also just learned the USA version of the 510 is the 32bit cpu model so that improves things as TWRP is available for that one (I think?) but the camera is not auto-focus and no flash.
If it was truly free-after-rebate I'd still get the 510 but since you have to pay at least two months of service it is really a $70+tax phone and I'm not paying that for no flash and no auto-focus.
I managed to get 2 of them free by upgrading from CDMA to their gsm network I gave them two ****ty blackberrys from like 1998 lol
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the problem is the model Cricket uses for their Moto G is locked down hard with no available bootloader unlock and no root, so forget roms.
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Thanks for that comment, ck. I was gonna do some research on cricket moto g, but still finishing up with 510 for now.
I jumped on the cricket deal on black Friday and gave my son the phone for Xmas. It was his favorite gift by far. I couldn't use this as a daily driver but it is definitely worth two months of cricket. Cricket service has good coverage with 4g and late but I can't get speeds of more than 8 or 9. The phone is basically free and can handle any games apps I've thrown at it. Display could be better but no other complaints.
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This phone sucks if you've ever used a high quality phone like any of the galaxy series, note series, HTC one, nexus, I'm saving for another quality phone. No memory here, camera is horrible. Phone lags, yes the digitizer is horrible. And, I love music and with headphones it sounds terrible to use, I just don't see myself ever going this route again.
And I'm rooted running custom ROMs which is improvement, but I don't see any ROM fixing the negative about this phone, just improving crap
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When my CDMA Cricket-flashed Galaxy S2 finally died, I replaced it with the Cricket 510 and must admit I'm a little disappointed, although I wasn't expecting a world-class device at that price. Battery life and performance are better than I expected, but the grainy flashless camera, low storage space, and somewhat finicky digitizer leave much to be desired.
This is also my first experience with Sense and I'm not liking it too much, but there are replacement apps (launcher, messaging, keyboard, gallery, etc... ) that get the job done better. But as soon as the camera is fixed in cm11, I'm flashing it.
Would I buy another one? Probably not... I think I'd rather spend more for a better device. But if you're low on cash and need something quick and decent, this isn't a bad way to go at all.
Definitely not for the reasons already stated by everyone else. It is too much of a pain.
Unlike everyone else, I'd buy this phone again in a heartbeat. I got it for next to nothing and it works completely fine. Out of the box the lack of space on the internal storage is a little unnerving but it does have an external micro slot and now that it's rooted deleting the mass of bloatware installed by HTC gives up tons of space. I've flashed CM on mine now and it's even better and works beautifully especially considering it's a no-contract pay-to-go phone.
It amazes me that people want this phone to hit the ground running but NO PHONE DOES THAT save maybe the OnePlus One and the Yureka. We have a limited pool of devs on this phone and they have their own jobs outside of this forum and other phones that they work on. Stop being so self entitled and if you don't like the lack of development on the phone do something about it. The current devs we have already have a device tree up, ported the CM MSM8974 kernel, and a vendor repo (or you can use ./extract-files.sh and pull your own). It really doesn't take that much to get to learning on how to build CM and although deving is a little more, if you don't like it learn it. The phones not been out that long people, like less than five months.
For all it's worth, the phone works perfectly and has better specs than most of the other pay-to-go phones. Like I said, storage out of the box is lacking but there are given alternatives and if you don't like them then root the phone and remove the mass of bloatware. The touchscreen works fine for me 95% of the time. There are some times where the touchscreen gets a little crazy but it's once in a blue moon. The only real downside is the speakers and one of the devs here in the forums found a mod and if I remember correctly ported it to the 510 to work better. Yeah the camera issue on the current CM build is a little annoying but that part comes with flashing ROMs especially ROMs that aren't supported by CM themselves.
The device worked perfectly for me out of the box and the device continues to work like a beast for me with the current CM build from @rbheromax, @kalisto2002, and @shinru2004.
Like I said, I'd buy the phone again if I needed to because it was next to nothing.
That's my two cents.
I got mine free and regret every penny I didn't spend on something with more internal storage.
Thing is that is my only gripe with the phone, the lack of internal storage space. SD card can't help you if you can't even use the device because it's out of memory.
I've moved almost every app I have to SD card, still no use, and I only have a handful installed whereas on any other device I had about 5 times as many apps.
Would it really have killed them to put 8GB in this thing?
So, no I wouldn't choose this device again.
NEVER!
Nope. NEVER AGAIN!! A smartphone with no storage = basically a flip phone with a color screen. Waste of my money and time and the BIGGEST rip off ever!
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Nope. NEVER AGAIN!! A smartphone with no storage = basically a flip phone with a color screen. Waste of my money and time and the BIGGEST rip off ever!
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I agree, unfortunately im stuck with it. It was my one shot at a phone and it looked awesome though I do work with tech a lot I do not mess with phones at all. So I got this and am currently desperate for a rom that can trim up this memory the on board storage gives you about 300MB after fresh install and updates. This is useless even with 30gb flash card. I have managed to unlock and root it just fine but mine is HTC 510 boost so not I am hoping they make a rom for this that works on my phone until then I am removing as much as I can but these apps do not do much to free up space. if anyone has any info I could use some As I said phones are not my thing.
I agree with dipspit.
Initially I was dismayed over the lack of space on this phone, however I purchased it at a good price and it was a definite upgrade (spec wise) compared to my old device. In all honesty even without the support this device has received from a few members here I still would purchase this again.
It's just an added benefit to have some wonderful members here who are doing all they can to make this phone awesome.
I was considering to buy this phone to my wife instead of her Desire HD. And the best thing about it was a 4G in it, but after reading all your posts I think I will go find something else. One more thing was stopping me from really buying it - 1G of RAM. I don't think it's really enough this days.
The 1GB ram is not a problem. I've since switched to a Moto G 2nd Gen. and with 1GB ram it runs smooth. I love the new Moto G and it's quite affordable, I recommend it.
The storage is the main issue on the Desire 510.
Never!
Its very sh!t phone,slow,very sh!t screen,etc...
My Xperia SP with 2 cores much better and faster
Just bought it as a temp phone till I figure out what phone to get. Besides the crappy screen and camera. It's fairly smooth for a midgrade phone.
Hmm...well I did get this phone for free. Although it does perform much better than my old phone the HTC One SV, the camera isn't as good as the SV (which I really miss). I'm used to phones not having very much development. My first smartphone was a Samsung Admire, then an LG Optimus C. Then the SV and now this. They didn't have much developing, but it was never disappointing. If I could get this phone for free I would. But if I had a chance to buy another phone and had the money, I definitely would. This gave me a taste of Sense 6 and the performance of HTC phones. I've never had it lag while casually using it. Although I do get some crashes, but that's what I get for messing with some of the system's files in order to perform much better.
Overall it's a good phone for performance and gave me a taste of Sense 6. The space isn't much of an issue for me. I've never ran out of memory space.
I love HTC phones and I would get it again if it was free again, but if I had money I would buy the M8 instead (or the upcoming M9)
If anyone was concerned about space, all they would have to do is buy a memory card.
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