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[Q] iPad 2 vs Galaxy Tab

Did a search, didn't find a whole lot on this topic so figured i'd ask since I'm trying to decide between the two.
I currently have a Captivate and can say i love the dev community it has. Running CM7 and its awesome.
That being said, Apple's hardware has always been great but iOS is lame. I previously had a jailbroken iPhone and it was ok at best. iPad is a bit different though, if i was to get one i'd jailbreak it as soon as i can....but more interestingly its looking like OpeniBoot has support for the original iPad so it might have iPad 2 support in the furture. I'm not sure how smooth android would be on it but it would allow me to run both android/iOS on great hardware.
A big factor for me is price, from what i'm reading the new Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably be around $800 like the Xoom and thats too much for me. Both wifi verisons of iPad 2/Galaxy Tab around $500 which is the price point i'm looking for.
So which would you recommend?
Thanks

Wifi Galaxy Tab will be more like $400 max..
Would you not consider a used/new 3G Galaxy Tab.
The 7" design is great for portability and adding 3G completes the Tab imo..
If its for household use only I would say IPad..
Bear in mind I only own a Tab though not an IPad lol.

Well This is what I think:
iPad 2:
Much more secure
Closed Source
Nicer Screen
NOT PORTABLE DUE TO BIGGER SIZE.
Galaxy Tab 7
Not very secure ( Thank you you SOB's....your day will come ) but still more secure than Windows.
It is PORTABLE ( Can fit into pocket )
You can customize it/Flash it
All in all the Galaxy Tab is a winner IMHO. 7 inches is the PERFECT size ( pls no "****" jokes ) for being more portable and customisation.

Digiguest said:
Well This is what I think:
iPad 2:
Much more secure
Closed Source
Nicer Screen
NOT PORTABLE DUE TO BIGGER SIZE.
Galaxy Tab 7
Not very secure ( Thank you you SOB's....your day will come ) but still more secure than Windows.
It is PORTABLE ( Can fit into pocket )
You can customize it/Flash it
All in all the Galaxy Tab is a winner IMHO. 7 inches is the PERFECT size ( pls no "****" jokes ) for being more portable and customisation.
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Not very secure?
http://www.groovypost.com/howto/news/pwn2own-google-unhacked/

RE:
Just got the Tab on Thursday. Bought it outright.
Got the Bell Mobility model so I could put my internet keys' SIM into it.
Two things impressed me:
1.) Using Z4Root I rooted my Tab in seconds and it was simple. (Article on the forums here with the apk)
2.) The fact that I could unlock the device for free with Roto's process (also on the forums), was pretty sweet.
I put the Overcome 1.2.2 ROM on my Tab, an extra 16gb mem card, and have installed a crap ton of apps to test its limits.
Thus far, the device has not slowed down.
It's usable in all lighting conditions, and the battery life is quite impressive.
I get that everyone pushes Apple products because they're the greatest thing since a toaster(and mildly more useful. ), but with the Tab you get freedom, functionality, and portability.
I call that a win-win.

I feel that Galaxy tab is much more impressive, I am impressed by the openness of Android and how you can manipulate it with only a little effort.
Plus, iOS is a shame, with a huge portion of its apps being paid ones, go for the Tab if it gets only a bit more expensive but 800 is way pricier to be sold.

roy8846 said:
Wifi Galaxy Tab will be more like $400 max..
Would you not consider a used/new 3G Galaxy Tab.
The 7" design is great for portability and adding 3G completes the Tab imo..
If its for household use only I would say IPad..
Bear in mind I only own a Tab though not an IPad lol.
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Where can you get one for $400?
Digiguest said:
Well This is what I think:
iPad 2:
Much more secure
Closed Source
Nicer Screen
NOT PORTABLE DUE TO BIGGER SIZE.
Galaxy Tab 7
Not very secure ( Thank you you SOB's....your day will come ) but still more secure than Windows.
It is PORTABLE ( Can fit into pocket )
You can customize it/Flash it
All in all the Galaxy Tab is a winner IMHO. 7 inches is the PERFECT size ( pls no "****" jokes ) for being more portable and customisation.
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What do you mean by not very secure?
PhelanPKell said:
Just got the Tab on Thursday. Bought it outright.
Got the Bell Mobility model so I could put my internet keys' SIM into it.
Two things impressed me:
1.) Using Z4Root I rooted my Tab in seconds and it was simple. (Article on the forums here with the apk)
2.) The fact that I could unlock the device for free with Roto's process (also on the forums), was pretty sweet.
I put the Overcome 1.2.2 ROM on my Tab, an extra 16gb mem card, and have
installed a crap ton of apps to test its limits.
Thus far, the device has not slowed down.
It's usable in all lighting conditions, and the battery life is quite impressive.
I get that everyone pushes Apple products because they're the greatest thing since a toaster(and mildly more useful. ), but with the Tab you get freedom, functionality, and portability.
I call that a win-win.
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MAGPC said:
I feel that Galaxy tab is much more impressive, I am impressed by the openness of Android and how you can manipulate it with only a little effort.
Plus, iOS is a shame, with a huge portion of its apps being paid ones, go for the Tab if it gets only a bit more expensive but 800 is way pricier to be sold.
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I agree with both of you about Android. I suppose one of the main reasons I was even going to consider the iPad is the possibility of putting Android on it in the future

chrisz5z said:
Where can you get one for $400?
I agree with both of you about Android. I suppose one of the main reasons I was even going to consider the iPad is the possibility of putting Android on it in the future
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Wait, what? Why spend all that money on an ipad if you are just going to jailbreak it and put android OS on it anyway?

vamp6x6x6x said:
Wait, what? Why spend all that money on an ipad if you are just going to jailbreak it and put android OS on it anyway?
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Better quality hardware, bigger screen, and the prices are basically the same. Also openiboot dual boots iOS and android

Galaxy tab 10.1 is the same size screen as the ipad. And where is the documentation saying the ipad has better specs...
On most threads in all the blogs I've read, Galaxy tab beat the ipad hands down... Most threads say the ipad and tabs specs are pretty close with the main difference being screen size (also ipad has bigger battery with a bit better life, 10 hours versus 8). Nowhere did it say the ipad has better hardware...
Personally Apple hype up everything, had the ipod/iphone reps to expand their market with. They aren't any better than anything else out there, in fact I get the dirts with how limiting IOS really is.
If you want something that seems to be developed with the speed of continental drift go with the Ipad, if you want something thats open and can be altered, changed and played with then the Android Galaxy Tab is the go...
When Galaxy Tab 10.1 is released then Apple are REALLY gonna have a battle on their hands, there's a reason Android is liked and IOS isn't.

ultramag69 said:
Galaxy tab 10.1 is the same size screen as the ipad. And where is the documentation saying the ipad has better specs...
On most threads in all the blogs I've read, Galaxy tab beat the ipad hands down... Most threads say the ipad and tabs specs are pretty close with the main difference being screen size (also ipad has bigger battery with a bit better life, 10 hours versus 8). Nowhere did it say the ipad has better hardware...
Personally Apple hype up everything, had the ipod/iphone reps to expand their market with. They aren't any better than anything else out there, in fact I get the dirts with how limiting IOS really is.
If you want something that seems to be developed with the speed of continental drift go with the Ipad, if you want something thats open and can be altered, changed and played with then the Android Galaxy Tab is the go...
When Galaxy Tab 10.1 is released then Apple are REALLY gonna have a battle on their hands, there's a reason Android is liked and IOS isn't.
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i haven't been comparing the Tab 10.1 with the iPad, I'm referring to the 7" that has been out for a while. And by hardware I'm talking about the materials its made from, i.e. look/feel/build quality...i already know what the specs are

chrisz5z said:
i haven't been comparing the Tab 10.1 with the iPad, I'm referring to the 7" that has been out for a while. And by hardware I'm talking about the materials its made from, i.e. look/feel/build quality...i already know what the specs are
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I also assumed you were comparing the iPad 2 to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I think that's a fairer comparison, for the original 7" Tab it's better to compare to the original iPad.
Between the Tab 10.1 and iPad 2 - I'm not sure, still deciding. But between the 7" Tab and the iPad - I went for the iPad, mostly for the bigger screen. If you go the way of the original iPad I'm sure you can pick up a mint condition one for a good price off eBay.

i think it all comes down to what kind of user you are. If you're the type that buys a Mac or any other decent pre build desktop computer and don't want to think about (read:don't understand) what goes on inside it, get the iPad/iPad2. If you're into building the desktop computer from scratch get the galaxy tab/android .

mic_888 said:
I also assumed you were comparing the iPad 2 to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I think that's a fairer comparison, for the original 7" Tab it's better to compare to the original iPad.
Between the Tab 10.1 and iPad 2 - I'm not sure, still deciding. But between the 7" Tab and the iPad - I went for the iPad, mostly for the bigger screen. If you go the way of the original iPad I'm sure you can pick up a mint condition one for a good price off eBay.
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Well my main thing is price. I've been reading that the 10.1 Tab could be around $800, i dont' wanna spend that much. I've seen the 7" Tab for around $500, and the iPad 2 is $500 for the wifi version.
Hmm idk, i think it'd be wise to wait for the 10.1 Tab's official price. If its around $500 then i'll get that, if not then i'll just try n find a cheap used 7" Tab or iPad
I appreciate everybody's input

pawces said:
i think it all comes down to what kind of user you are. If you're the type that buys a Mac or any other decent pre build desktop computer and don't want to think about (read:don't understand) what goes on inside it, get the iPad/iPad2. If you're into building the desktop computer from scratch get the galaxy tab/android .
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Not so!
I used to put my own PCs together, but simply can't be bothered any more, so now I own Dells and Macs. However, I choose Android for my phones and tablets mostly because I dislike the control Apple exerts over its mobile platform.
Regards,
Dave

I have the galaxy tab, but the ipad 2 is better.
- dual core
- nicer screen
- netflix
- more RAM (i think)
- apple's market
- smoother and more refined

for me basically it lies on the OS itself
yeah sure, iPad looks / screen is better, but in term of hardware u can't possibly say that iPad 2 hardware is superior coz AFAIK, the chip is manufactured by samsung, and the storage drive is toshiba's
the fast that you saw based solely on the simplicity of the OS itself
you're doomed, not being able to do / mod anything like you wanted to, but in the bright side, you get stability and speed
same iPad hardware but running android wouldnt feel the same way i think, only my opinion though
how hard the process needs to be to provide square beside square beside square and that it opens up when you touch?
my suggestion is go for what you need, and make your own +/-, coz in the end you'll be the one using it ^^

Justin^Tan said:
but in term of hardware u can't possibly say that iPad 2 hardware is superior coz AFAIK, the chip is manufactured by samsung, and the storage drive is toshiba's
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That's a strawman argument. Samsung don't even make the Tegra 2 chips that will power the Tab 10.1. They have a processor, the Exynos (which I suspect is very similar to the A5), but they are using the Tegra 2 because (a) it's the Honeycomb reference platform, and (b) chances are that they don't have sufficient production capacity to satisfy both A5 and Exynos demand.
Just because Apple don't make every single component in their devices (they don't even "manufacture" their own devices anyway), doesn't mean that they don't produce superior hardware (in most cases).
A product's hardware is almost always more than the sum of its parts - it's also how well it is designed and put together. The only time when this is generally not the case, is cheap Chinese clones, which are often less than the sum of their parts!
Regards,
Dave

I think you wouldn't go wrong with either.
However, given you already have your apps in your android phone, you could stick with android, so you don't have to buy them all over, by getting into IOS.
Do you need microSD slot? Then get galaxy tab. Why not get Xoom?
Do you need a large screen? Then get Ipad.
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a67543210 said:
I think you wouldn't go wrong with either.
However, given you already have your apps in your android phone, you could stick with android, so you don't have to buy them all over, by getting into IOS.
Do you need microSD slot? Then get galaxy tab. Why not get Xoom?
Do you need a large screen? Then get Ipad.
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Thats the thing. I love android, but to be honest am leaning towards the ipad2 because the Xoom doesn't seem appealing to me and from the looks of it the gTab 10.1 is going to be a xoom with better speaker placement and lack of a sd card slot.

New guy with new guy questions

I am an Evo 4G owner and love it .. I'm now in the market for a tablet. Is it better to get a honeycomb tablet or go with the Galaxy Tab and root it? I ask because I would really like to stay with Sprint but the Xoom is coming wi-fi only next week on Sprint. Looking for a little guidance here. Also, can I make video calls with the Galaxy Tab? Thanks Android fam!

Tricky question really....
The Galaxy Tab is a 7" device whereas the various Honeycomb Tablets that are appearing are all 10.1" devices. Is size a factor for you ?
The Galaxy Tab can be used as a phone (in the US you will need to root and modify it). I have been using my Tab as my only phone for 5 months now and can't imagine going back to using a 'regular' sized phone because the screens all look tiny to me now
A friend that works at Samsung told me that the new 10.1" and 8.9" Galaxy Tabs that are coming out soon will both be capable of making calls (again probably disabled in the US models).
I've played with an Acer Iconia 500 - 10.1" tablet running Honeycomb and it was a great experience, however its too big to carry everywhere and it doesn't have phone capability so it doesn't fit my needs.
So the question is how are you going to use it ? If you want something to sit at home then go for the new larger sized tablets, if you want something mobile to have with you all the time then the original 7" Galaxy Tab is the best option (especially if you get rid of your phone and use the tab instead).
Sean

Honestly, go for latest firmware. Many machine are already available with Honeycomb 3.0 so it would be wise to get the latest. Also, most of the machines running 3.0 come with dual core processor. That's my opinion.

Thanks for the info guys. My Evo is great and I am looking for a tablet to use more as a replacement for my laptop while on the move ... although using the galaxy tab for a phone does sound pretty good .. size wise, it sounds a little strange to use a tablet for a phone but I haven't went that way so I don't know ... I want to use it at home and on the go .. carrying a laptop everywhere has its advantages and disadvantages but the new tablets are going to be wifi only and that kind of defeats the purpose for me ... can the galaxy tab be rooted and used on 4G and are there roms that have honeycomb? Thanks for helping me out!

any other opinion or options?

If size dosen't matter for you then take a honeycomb tablet (iconia a500, asus transformer, galaxy tab 10.1...). Personnaly I like my galaxy tab 7, because of all the reasons listed by seanchk above.
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I use my SGT 7" as a phone + tablet too, for the same reasons as above. Fair warning, the phone function works in speakerphone as a default unless you use the wired headset included in the package or buy a bluetooth headset which I do use.
~ A little thanks goes a looong way! ~

A 10" tablet to me is almost equivalent to the portability of a notebook for me. I have an ipad 2 (which my wife uses mostly now), and carrying it around was a hassle.
The tab is the perfect size because you can put it in your back pocket or your average jacket pocket. It's also nice to be able to hold it with one hand for an extended period without getting sore. The ipad 2 is a great device for using in bed but if I'm out and about, the galaxy tab is a lot more practical.

grukko said:
A 10" tablet to me is almost equivalent to the portability of a notebook for me. I have an ipad 2 (which my wife uses mostly now), and carrying it around was a hassle.
The tab is the perfect size because you can put it in your back pocket or your average jacket pocket. It's also nice to be able to hold it with one hand for an extended period without getting sore. The ipad 2 is a great device for using in bed but if I'm out and about, the galaxy tab is a lot more practical.
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grukko, thanks for the input. I have been told that if I have an evo, I shouldn't bother with an android tablet. how do you feel on that comment? also, mobility is huge for me as this will be mainly used for on the go to replace having to carry a laptop everywhere. i am just wondering if the 10 inchers coming out on wifi only are going to be worth not having a 3G/4G connection.
also, I will be keeping my evo as I need a phone with unlimited minutes for business. i live in the US. just want to be happy and comfortable with my purchase.

Who's upgrading to Galaxy Tab 7.7?

I'm getting the 7.7 for sure when it is out!
I was debating whether to get an iPad2 whilst on holiday in Florida as prices are cheaper than UK.
But then the 7.7 came out!
Android > iOS FTW
WHAT ABOUT YOU GUYS?
- yes
- no
- not sure.
Please share your opinions! Whether you think it is a worthy upgrade or not!
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Nope. I am going to downsize to the Galaxy Note when available,
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"

debernardis said:
Nope. I am going to downsize to the Galaxy Note when available,
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
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Ah
But will you still keep and use your tab?
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Bump , anyone want to share ideas?
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Hi, I have an Archos 70 Internet Tablet, and I'm going to upgrade to the new Samsung Galaxy TAB 7.7, as soon as it's on the stores.

May be if available in Europe !
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I'll be getting it as soon as it comes to Canada. I've been waiting for this tablet for quite some time.

if they sell it in US and the price is under $400, then I will get one. I have both Galaxy tab 7 and 10.1.
To be honest, I love my tab 7 more since it so easy to hold and most of the apps/games are compatiable with Gingerbread.
10.1 is nice and fast.. but it is a little bit too thin and too large. hahah.. I am probably the only one to complain the "thin".
Anyways, the 8.9 is still too large to hold by one hand (I have a small hand) as well as my 5 years son.
Tab 7 is almost perfect for me except the CPU is a little bit slow, there are some lagging..opening apps/games..
So, 7.7 is dual-core (small size) is perfect for me. Hope Samsung keeps the price low.. Anyways, I am selling the 10.1 Anyone?

tyy10002 said:
if they sell it in US and the price is under $400, then I will get one. I have both Galaxy tab 7 and 10.1.
To be honest, I love my tab 7 more since it so easy to hold and most of the apps/games are compatiable with Gingerbread.
10.1 is nice and fast.. but it is a little bit too thin and too large. hahah.. I am probably the only one to complain the "thin".
Anyways, the 8.9 is still too large to hold by one hand (I have a small hand) as well as my 5 years son.
Tab 7 is almost perfect for me except the CPU is a little bit slow, there are some lagging..opening apps/games..
So, 7.7 is dual-core (small size) is perfect for me. Hope Samsung keeps the price low.. Anyways, I am selling the 10.1 Anyone?
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How much for it ?
Is the 10.1 only 1ghz dual core, so the 7.7 will be.much faster?
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I'm thinking about jumping over to the xoom or acer a500, i am really cheesed off with the lack of support from samsung.

I bought my P1000, 3 days ago.. So now I am still ultra-happy..
I saw that 7.7'' but when will it come out..I could not wait..
I LOVE that amoled screen (after some time using P1000 than switch to My Galaxy S phone to do something.. only then I see that BIG diference between screens)
Anyway what is most important to me and if someone can answer me, as far as I can see this new tablet 7,7' will NOT have that she.t of nVidia Tegra..
So can I presume that new tablet it will support all video codec's as Tab P1000?
If it will I am definitely selling this (new one ) and geting 7.7..

Definitely gonna upgrade, but I dont think its gonna come out soon
and before that, I would love to taste the Ice Cream Sandwich 1st on the original tab
if the taste is good enough, i might prolong my tab life before upgrading since ICS is newer than honeycomb and prolly have better features too

I would never get an iPAD unless the incorporate some sort of cell phone capability, be it a remote device that belt clips with a display or actually on the ipad.
I love the SGT 7" that I have, it is perfect, for cell calls, and surfing the web. Think carefully, do you REALLY want to help the Apple machine make more money?

Does anyone know when it is coming out?
Actually when the last Galaxy tab 7 was released, could we buy it unlocked somewhere?
I ask because I need the new 7.7 to work with Bell. I already have a Bell 3g SIM card ready to go.
Thanks

If I could I would.
Once I have the money for the tab 7.7 ill definetley buy it.
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Let's see, it's 7.7 so that's too big for a small tablet, won't fit in a pocket any more...
It runs Honeycomb rather than a phone version of android, I don't like honeycomb on larger tablets and surly its even worse on smaller screens... I have also yet to see an ambled screen that beats a common LCD (Galaxy Tab 7, iPhone 4, iPad all look much better than the Galaxy S 2 screen and it's supposed to be one of the best).
That means it can't replace my Galaxy Tab and it can't replace my iPad as it's smaller and would be missing some apps (mail and calendar for starters, android just can't compete with on that front IMO)...
So no, I won't be downgrading any of my current tablets

i like my galaxy tab 7 but im not sure if im going to invest in any more Samsung devices after they kinda wrote off this device as a red headed step child.
Ive put some thought into it and either the 7.7 or 8.9 would be nice i love the fact the 7 fits in my pocket. 7.7 has what i want and that's honey comb tables I'm a medical student and some of the apps like Google body are very useful.
So ya i think I'm gonna hop ship to 7.7 just hope there's a lot of good development on it get rid of that tw ux garbage
correction if http://sammyhub.com/2011/09/05/galaxy-tab-7-7-and-galaxy-note-pricing-for-scandinavian-countries/ is correct then no i will not be upgrading that's some insane pricing.

After using my tab as my phone for 12 months I've recently got myself a SGS2. I love the s2 and I really must disagree in regards to screen and picture quality. The S2 is far superior to my eyes. I miss my tab though, and have found it is used as a wifi device around my home as my primary portal to interwebs and the world! Its perfect and with the car kit set up in my kitchen (suction cup works well on my benchtop) it is extremely convenient and I love how connected I feel even when cooking breakfast! Its fantastic. The S2 is about to be violated and I'm hoping this'll breath new life into it but I can absolutely see myself going back to a tablet of around 7 or 8" and don't ever carry my 7" tab in my pocket so would lean towards the larger device... I would like to see a device that is a phone that goes inside a tablet that docks either @ your entertainment hub or in your car or both. The phone would be the primary CPU and such with each step providing supplementary hardware enhancing the GPU and CPU and memory extra. Or a more solid mirroring across devices.. its frustrating not being able to just put one device down and being able to continue seamlessly on another device.. its kinda exciting when you think how easy some of this would be with current tech.
I have more ideas.... but I've said too much already.. patents pending Nobleskill Inc.
;-)
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I'll get the Galaxy Tab Plus, not the 7.7 one.
7.7'' is too large for my pockets and if a tab is not pocketable then it's useless to me. The Galaxy Tab Plus will have Android 3.2 and the same 7'' screen as the current tab. I'll stick to this form-factor forever (or just not upgrade my tab :-D).
Here's more info on the Tab Plus: http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/20/galaxy-tab-spotted-7-inch-honeycomb-tablet-t-mobile/

Dont think I will
I have been using the 7" for about six months and it satisfies everything I need. I can do my work on the go, remote some PC's that need fixing, surf, youtube and even gaming!!!
I don't think I will upgrade just for the sake of having a faster device as I haven't noticed any slowdown on this device.
The screen on this device I think is brighter than the s2 screen and clearer, maybe amoled is only for people with blue eyes!!!

Laptop replacement

Just read a little about this product. Do you guys think this would be a good compliment to the Note 2. It's supposed to retail around $200 US.
http://clamcase.com/clambook-android-and-iphone-laptop-dock.html

I've been waiting a long time for this, I just don't know that it will ever make it to market.
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Nice
Looks interesting. I'd give it a go for 200 bucks. The iPad version seem to be getting good reviews.

looks like a macbook
i like it

I don't know if I would call it a laptop replacement. The site didn't give enough details to make a decent guess
My guess, it would be what we see with the iDevice versions or something similar to ASUS Transormer Prime/Infinity Pads. What I think you're getting is just a device just brings an Android experience to a larger screen and nicer keyboard to use. I'm almost want to say it's just going to mirror your device display.
If you're familiar with Android and normal OSs for notebooks--Windows, OSX, various Linus distros--then you'll know they're not exactly the same. Android is very capable OS, but it has it's limits compared to other OS choices
That said, it could a good choice for someone, maybe a student, for two hundred dollars. A lot will depend on what you need to use.

Looks great to me. I'd be a buyer. Even better, they should make it with a space in the back that you can pop your device in... Just order the right spacers and it should fit snugly.
Swyped from the closest Galaxy.

Wow, holy ****. I'd buy one in a heart beat.
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Did some reading on the Interwebs, and my enthusiasm is dampened. It seems that Clamcase is not a reputable company, and their products are of awful quality with nonexistent support. The idea is a fantastic one, I'd daydreamed of something similar (with a backlit keyboard and a big user replaceable SSD), but these guys are worse than vapor-ware, apparently.
Swyped from the closest Galaxy.

disappointing to hear. I forget which company makes it, I think ASUS, where there is a smartphone and tablet combo. The phone actually goes into the tablet. This is similar except it's a laptop and USB cable or cradle.
It definitely could be useful for some.

lovekeiiy said:
disappointing to hear. I forget which company makes it, I think ASUS, where there is a smartphone and tablet combo. The phone actually goes into the tablet. This is similar except it's a laptop and USB cable or cradle.
It definitely could be useful for some.
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It is Asus, and it is called the padfone.
It ain't cheap (750 or so if memory serves) and I don't know that is available in the US.
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What about the Motorola Lapdock, would it work with GN2?
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Lapdock-100-Smartphones-Packaging/dp/B005P58B5G/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_2

tbvnz said:
What about the Motorola Lapdock, would it work with GN2?
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Lapdock-100-Smartphones-Packaging/dp/B005P58B5G/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_2
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Nope. Lapdock has two connections, one hdmi, the other usb.

I use to use something like this for Windows Mobile called a Redfly that was more like a netbook size. This would still make sense to me except my Series 9 Ultrabook is already a better option and as thin and light as i need it to be.
The main thing missing for me in Android/iOS is the multi-window support, but if a product like this would come out and still support multi-window like the Note 2 does, it would be a good solution for not having a super light/thin but expensive ultrabook.

Wonder if it uses the old 5 pin mhl or the new one that the gn2 and gs3 use.

Guess I'll get a bluetooth keyboard trackpad combo and wait for this:
http://www.medltech.com/product.html

I've got a lapdock and may get the Mhl cable to see if I can get it to work. The lapdock is just use and hdmi.
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unless both devices have MHL built into them, you'll need to get a MHL adapter.
I had no idea if the PadFone is available in the US either. I just remember the device existing and it's what device reminded me of. It's nice idea since most people are getting and using various smartphones. Why not trying to combine with something to be more robusts. I just see, as of right now, being limited because of the Android OS itself and how to apps designed and written. No mobile office suite compares to features and use to a desktop counterpart. Although, given the costs, it can me a nice alternative.
Personally, I would just get an older laptop if to fit the need. Other than maybe a need for bigger screen, I would just use a portable keyboard and stand for the phone and call it good. Not that I would recommend for writing a paper for school. I hold that statement for tablets too.

tbvnz said:
Just read a little about this product. Do you guys think this would be a good compliment to the Note 2. It's supposed to retail around $200 US.
nope not at all
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fosselman said:
Wonder if it uses the old 5 pin mhl or the new one that the gn2 and gs3 use.
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it looks like they'll be making docks for specific phones, so I imagine the note 2's dock will be the correct one. i'm guessing they'd also make a generic interface for non-so-popular phones, perhaps cable-only. In which case you can use the 11-5pin converter that Samsung sells.
i wonder how the keyboard/trackpad works. i'm guessing bluetooth?

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it looks like they'll be making docks for specific phones, so I imagine the note 2's dock will be the correct one. i'm guessing they'd also make a generic interface for non-so-popular phones, perhaps cable-only. In which case you can use the 11-5pin converter that Samsung sells.
i wonder how the keyboard/trackpad works. i'm guessing bluetooth?
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MHL can do hdmi and usb at the same time.

$99 Gear Vr and Note 4

Hello. I've been trying to find myself out but no luck. What happens if you cram an "old" Galaxy Note 4 into the new Gear Vr? I've already installed the Oculus App inside. Will it say that it's not compatible with the device? Or will it work just fine? Or might need a some sort of patch to make it work with my Note 4?
Thanks in advance

bree3553 said:
Hello. I've been trying to find myself out but no luck. What happens if you cram an "old" Galaxy Note 4 into the new Gear Vr? I've already installed the Oculus App inside. Will it say that it's not compatible with the device? Or will it work just fine? Or might need a some sort of patch to make it work with my Note 4?
Thanks in advance
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I dont know, maybe its just me but for some reason I feel the old vr headset for the note 4 is better then the new one for the note 5. I can def feel a difference in fov. Enjoy what you have on the innovator version.

bree3553 said:
Hello. I've been trying to find myself out but no luck. What happens if you cram an "old" Galaxy Note 4 into the new Gear Vr? I've already installed the Oculus App inside. Will it say that it's not compatible with the device? Or will it work just fine? Or might need a some sort of patch to make it work with my Note 4?
Thanks in advance
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Im wondering the same, especially now that I've flashed my Note 4 with a Note 5 port and the model number actually says SM-N920C.

Just finished reading amazon reviews and people are saying that the Note 4 doesn't fit! Most of us Note 4 users expected a software limitation that could be fixed with rooting or spoofing, but a hardware size issue would be a huge disappointment. I contemplated buying this VR consumer headset knowing it's not going to be compatible with the expectation of making some modifications to get it to work, but if it doesn't fit that's ridiculous! Hopefully someone shares photos or videos of their problems, and maybe we can find a workaround.

Cruz77321 said:
Just finished reading amazon reviews and people are saying that the Note 4 doesn't fit! Most of us Note 4 users expected a software limitation that could be fixed with rooting or spoofing, but a hardware size issue would be a huge disappointment. I contemplated buying this VR consumer headset knowing it's not going to be compatible with the expectation of making some modifications to get it to work, but if it doesn't fit that's ridiculous! Hopefully someone shares photos or videos of their problems, and maybe we can find a workaround.
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Since the announcement of the consumer Gear VR it was clear that the Note 4 will not fit in it.
There is also a visible trend that new content is sometimes unsupported by the Note 4 (mostly because of the Snapdragon variant out there which somehow causes trouble to utilize the performance needed without overheating problems).
The Note 4 version is now over a year old and in my humble opinion it is/was a developer device but to get more testers on board it was called "innovator edition".

Porn still works. Thats all I care about. Can't wait untill my fleshlight arrives from Santa , oh ya!
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I read the specs and the Note 4 and 5 have the same micro usb connector. Is this correct? So what's keeping a Note 4 from being hacked to work with New Gear VR?

clonednull said:
Since the announcement of the consumer Gear VR it was clear that the Note 4 will not fit in it.
There is also a visible trend that new content is sometimes unsupported by the Note 4 (mostly because of the Snapdragon variant out there which somehow causes trouble to utilize the performance needed without overheating problems).
The Note 4 version is now over a year old and in my humble opinion it is/was a developer device but to get more testers on board it was called "innovator edition".
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I talked to a Samsung/Bestbuy Rep who witnessed the Note 4 fit into the new VR. Said it doesn't fit perfect and didn't advise it , but it does fit.

That's somewhat good news. Now someone needs to confirm that the software works. I am surprised a Note 4 xda developer has answered this question yet.

Cruz77321 said:
That's somewhat good news. Now someone needs to confirm that the software works. I am surprised a Note 4 xda developer has answered this question yet.
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Dn5 for the n910c works perfectly with the note4 vr innovator edition. You need to install the oculus apps using n4 buildprop but after that you can swap back to n5 buildprop. I don't know much about the snapdragon variants but if you want to know anything about the exynos n4 and gear vr just hit me up
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I'd also like to know what people mean when they say it 'doesn't fit'. I am interested in getting a VR device, but the Innovator Edition is ridiculously expensive for some reason. Can you squeeze it in? Or does it really not fit. Maybe I'll head to a Best Buy and jam my Note 4 in the Consumer Edition to see for myself.
Better to ask forgiveness than permission.
Edit: I found the Innovator Edition for the Note 4 certified refurbished at Amazon for $150 and made a separate thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mobile-vr/gear-vr/gear-vr-innovator-edition-note-4-150-t3267755

Even if it didn't fit.. why couldn't you use rubber bands or something to strap it to the VR as a rudimentary workaround? Or maybe even take part of the VR's plastic off.

I was going to buy one to test myself. From what I understand, you can make it fit. With root , you can fake it to think it's what ever device you want it to be.
The problem will be overheating and under power, and screen resolution. But Samsung really screwed themselves with this non removable battery deal..

Wilsonb said:
I was going to buy one to test myself. From what I understand, you can make it fit. With root , you can fake it to think it's what ever device you want it to be.
The problem will be overheating and under power, and screen resolution. But Samsung really screwed themselves with this non removable battery deal..
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If you do buy the newer version, let us know what the issue with the fit is. If it's something that can be remedied by modifying the back cover or removing it, I might return the Innovator Edition I just bought and get the Consumer Edition.

Wilsonb said:
I was going to buy one to test myself. From what I understand, you can make it fit. With root , you can fake it to think it's what ever device you want it to be.
The problem will be overheating and under power, and screen resolution. But Samsung really screwed themselves with this non removable battery deal..
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I was just given one of these as a gift. Love it! The new version has a power port so you don't drain the battery. Instead of separate cartridges for each phone all of the devices fit into one set up using Springs and spacers. I'm running this with my note 5 and couldn't be happier.

bfilipowski said:
I was just given one of these as a gift. Love it! The new version has a power port so you don't drain the battery. Instead of separate cartridges for each phone all of the devices fit into one set up using Springs and spacers. I'm running this with my note 5 and couldn't be happier.
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Sounds interesting, any links or pics?
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sawdoctor said:
Sounds interesting, any links or pics?
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The photo without the device attached shows the nubs used as spacers. Each level is spring loaded and compresses depending on which device is attached. The end where the USB connector is swivels, the opposite end adjusts with a spring to fir device snugly.

bfilipowski said:
The photo without the device attached shows the nubs used as spacers. Each level is spring loaded and compresses depending on which device is attached. The end where the USB connector is swivels, the opposite end adjusts with a spring to fir device snugly.
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Thanks for the pics. I have the innovator edition for the n4 but have friends interested in the vr. Nice to know the new ones aren't device specific
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bfilipowski said:
The photo without the device attached shows the nubs used as spacers. Each level is spring loaded and compresses depending on which device is attached. The end where the USB connector is swivels, the opposite end adjusts with a spring to fir device snugly.
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How snug is the fit of the Note 5 in terms of it's width? The Note 4 is only a few milimeters smaller in terms of width, but I bet that could be the difference between wedging it in and not getting it in at all.

Techngro said:
How snug is the fit of the Note 5 in terms of it's width? The Note 4 is only a few milimeters smaller in terms of width, but I bet that could be the difference between wedging it in and not getting it in at all.
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Since it is the largest device this was designed for; the fit is very snug. You would have issues with the corners if you tried to fit a note 4 into this. Your best bet would be a refurbished innovator edition.
@baja, I am very well aware which devices this was designed for.