We have two models (chipset wise):
1- SM-N910S running Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
(Quad-core Krait 450 CPU at up to 2.7 GHz per core/Adreno 420 GPU/4G LTE Advanced/28 nm HPm)
2- SM-N910C running Exynos 5433
(big.LITTLE HMP: Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 /Mali-T760 GPU/20nm)
Which one do you think is better, and why?
============== Update (2014-09-26) ==============
It's seems -contrary to earlier beliefs- that SM-N910S is not a snapdragon 805 version but an Exynos 5433 version with LTE-A!
Please don't rely on the model number, and make sure to check the online product description or box backside (if you buying physically) for the chipset informtion before buying
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Screenshot from Korean Note 4 unboxing video (0:19)
Lets see first whether Exynos is really a 64bit a57+a53 combo and then we vote as there is no evidence yet in the wild. On the contrary, well known people from Sammobile , Anandtech and XDA believe that its a a15+ a7 combo!
Edit: Its A57+A53!
Are we using the best fastest chip in US? Thats all I want.
Exynos will be better in benchmarks cause it has better gpu & cpu and propably will support 64bit for Android L update. On the other hand it only supports LTE cat 4, when Snapdragon 805 supports LTE cat 6. Snapdragon will be better for devs.
Definitely Snapdragon, there is a huge amount of developer support for it across multiple different phones here on XDA. The dev forum for the Note 3 is more than 5x the size of the exynos forum for the Note 3. There is still no AOSP/Cyanogenmod for the exynos Note 3. I see a lot of posts in the Note 3 forums about various things saying, "So when is this coming to my exynos version?" and rarely does it ever.
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because of ARMv8 & 64-Bit processors
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(i m not sure) better RAM bandwidth!
I prefer Exynos
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:good:
Qualcomm Snapdragon of course. The Exynos versions always end up being orphans in terms of developer enhancements. There are never many custom ROMs or anything other development for Exynos because there are comparatively few Exynos handsets out there and few developers own them.
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I'm big on the whole emulator thing.i read somewhere someone claimed samsung fixed whatever driver problem they had in previous exynos chips. Couple that with great benchmark scores and it's looking good, based on the past it seems the snap dragon has some sort of finicky driver issues that developers have to work around. But then again, benchmarks can utilize more than 2 cores, and on paper, the snap dragon is clocked much higher although with less cores.
Is there any official info which region will get exynos and who will get snapdragon?
darkkain said:
Is there any official info which region will get exynos and who will get snapdragon?
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darkkain said:
Is there any official info which region will get exynos and who will get snapdragon?
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I think European countries will get Snapdragon and other countries will get Exynos.
(Like Galaxy Note 3's Region Lock)
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20nm is better than 28nm. better and battery friendly ..:good:
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Is there any official info which region will get exynos and who will get snapdragon?
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exynos goes to Europe... Snapdragon to the USA...
Galaxy Tab S is exynos for Europe and snap for USA. Maybe will be the same this time.
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Which model will Outside of the Europe & USA Get ?
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exynos goes to Europe... Snapdragon to the USA...
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They switched to 805 for Europe.
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They switched to 805 for Europe.
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So who gets Exynos, Asia? Still don't know what I'm aiming for, Exynos or Snapdragon, but it's good to know who gets what.
I not sure how true Samsung Store Malaysia told me Malaysia is 100% getting the S805 which same as Note 3 also Snapdragon chipset.
Please this be true, I only want S805 and all users at hotter Malaysia forum lowyat seems all vote for S805 also.
well according to this website: http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4912030/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
the exynos version got a 50k+ antutu score, far above any existing soc, while on geekbench 3 the exynos version also scores much higher than s5 (snapdragon 801), like 20-25% higher. But they couldn't finish the test for the sd 805 version, which is a bit strange...
however, it is difficult to imagine how the snapdragon 805 version can manage to achieve paired performance as above if it is really true, as 805 and 801 soc are basically the same architecture, and the performance gain can only come from the higher clock (2.7 vs 2.5 ghz) so nowhere near a 20% increase, and this we already saw from the benchmarks for s5 lte-a version which features a 805 soc.
ps: another interesting tidbit from the preview above... the instructions set for the exynos version is still armv7, basically means it is still a 32bit architecture, as opposed to the 64bit many believe (hope) it would be which should mean the instruction set should be armv8...
alexcarterkarsus said:
well according to this website: http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4912030/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
the exynos version got a 50k+ antutu score, far above any existing soc, while on geekbench 3 the exynos version also scores much higher than s5 (snapdragon 801), like 20-25% higher. But they couldn't finish the test for the sd 805 version, which is a bit strange...
however, it is difficult to imagine how the snapdragon 805 version can manage to achieve paired performance as above if it is really true, as 805 and 801 soc are basically the same architecture, and the performance gain can only come from the higher clock (2.7 vs 2.5 ghz) so nowhere near a 20% increase, and this we already saw from the benchmarks for s5 lte-a version which features a 805 soc.
ps: another interesting tidbit from the preview above... the instructions set for the exynos version is still armv7, basically means it is still a 32bit architecture, as opposed to the 64bit many believe (hope) it would be which should mean the instruction set should be armv8...
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Forget Antutu!! Don't trust that much.
Check this beauty:
It literally demolishes Qualcomm.. nvidia Shield Tablet scores around 1100 and 3500.
The single-core performance is very near to A7 (obviously multi-core is way higher). Along with 20nm, this is turning out to be very enticing.
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Galaxy Note 4 SM-910C(Exynos) and Galaxy Note 4 SM-910S(Snap Dragon)
The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is at last official and the following thing we're holding up for is the official release date.
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Quick Review:
The display does not shock us as various leaks had officially uncovered that Galaxy Note 4 would accompany a 5.7inch Super AMOLED displays screen which upholds QHD resolution of 1440 x 2560 pixels.
As we had said before it supports 515ppi. The presentation certainly seems rich and brilliant however the QHD determination does not appear to be the main real motivation to buy for Note 4.
Outline :
Weighing 6.2 ounces, the Note 4 is heavier than the 5.9-ounce Note 3. The extra robustness is at any rate part of the way because of the Note 4′s metal edge, however the back is still a delicate touch plastic. Samsung selected an all-plastic chassis on the Note 3. The Note 4 is likewise somewhat taller and thicker than its ancestor (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 inches vs. 6 x 3.1 x 0.3 inches).
Cameras:
The Note 4 steps up the back camera's resolution from 13 MP to 16 MP, however that’s not the only improvement. Samsung added in optical image stabilization (OIS), which is incredible at capturing shots enduring as you zoom in. The organization claims you'll have the capacity to zoom up to 8x and still get a sharp pic.
Samsung has made its phablet more selfie-friendly, boosting the front camera's megapixel number from 2 MP on the Note 3 to 3.7 MP on the Note 4, while conveying a 90-degree wide-edge lens. You can go significantly more extensive than that, however you'll have to enter an extraordinary mode.
Spen:
Not at all like alternate telephones, Samsung's Galaxy Note family likewise offers a stylus, or S Pen, which has additionally been enhanced on the Galaxy Note 4. The new S Pen offers consumers a "significantly more credible pen experience," as per Samsung, and can even copy composition on paper with a wellspring or calligraphy pen.
Battery:
That battery is pretty much the same size as Note 3, however Samsung says it will charge to 50 percent in 30 minutes because of Qualcomm's Quickcharge engineering. That said, I'm concerned the denser screen will lead the Galaxy Note 4 to have shorter general battery life than the enduring Galaxy Note 3.
Here is my View post your views and thoughts below.
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because of ARMv8 & 64-Bit processors
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Octa-Cores that work simultaneously
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I prefer Exynos
Not very sure with which version I'll go for, but I seem to like Exynos, due to the HMP and lower clocked companion cores for battery life too
Also I'm to some extent familiar with the architecture of Exynos chips, so maybe it'll come in help while practicing development, but maybe I can learn about the Snapdragons too, the main thing I like about Krait architecture is the per core voltage control and dynamic body voltage adjustment on hardware level.
Is the Exynos better then the Snapdragon ?
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Where is the review ?
SamLayer said:
Is the Exynos better then the Snapdragon ?
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SD is much better when compared to exynos
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bala_gamer said:
Where is the review ?
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Above in the OP lol.
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This time the Exynos 5433 is much powerful and faster as compared to Snapdragon 805 variant. The exynos is capable of running all the eight cores simultaneously unlike the previous version in Note 3. Morever Exynos's LTE modem is of Cat 6 category whereas that of Snapdragon is Cat 4. Exynos is equipped with a 64 bit processor whereas the SD with 32 bit. Exynos also marks higher on the Antutu Benchmark. Therefore 910c is the killer variant this time!
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MoonSTRuK said:
This time the Exynos 5433 is much powerful and faster as compared to Snapdragon 805 variant. The exynos is capable of running all the eight cores simultaneously unlike the previous version in Note 3. Morever Exynos's LTE modem is of Cat 6 category whereas that of Snapdragon is Cat 4. Exynos is equipped with a 64 bit processor whereas the SD with 32 bit. Exynos also marks higher on the Antutu Benchmark. Therefore 910c is the killer variant this time!
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No, the Exynos has Cat4. while the Snapdragon has Cat6. Also, people are quite skeptical of the Exynos being 64 bit, in spite of the superior performance.
My bad! Yes you are right. ....Exynos is actually Cat 4.....I got confused between C and S. Thanks for the correction
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My bad! Yes you are right. ....Exynos is actually Cat 4.....I got confused between C and S. Thanks for the correction
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No problem, Samsung has a nag for playing with the specs of a single version, so it's bound to get confusing. Here are the 2 possible specs at the moment:
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CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 (SM-N910S), Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450, 32 bit.
GPU: Adreno 420
LTE: Cat6
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CPU: Exynos 5433 (SM-N910C), Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 (Possibly 64 bit, most likely 32 bit).
GPU: Mali-T760
LTE: Cat4
Dat Noob said:
No problem, Samsung has a nag for playing with the specs of a single version, so it's bound to get confusing. Here are the 2 possible specs at the moment:
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CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 (SM-N910S), Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450, 32 bit.
GPU: Adreno 420
LTE: Cat6
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CPU: Exynos 5433 (SM-N910C), Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 (Possibly 64 bit, most likely 32 bit).
GPU: Mali-T760
LTE: Cat4
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Exynos5 (Exynos5433) - 32-bit. Series Exynos6 & Exynos7 - 64-bit
Pako7 said:
Exynos5 (Exynos5433) - 32-bit. Series Exynos6 & Exynos7 - 64-bit
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How do we know which one is 64 bit among the exynos versions? What model would it be? I read the Antutu's benchmark tests a couple of days ago before the launching of Note 4. It compared the Exynos and the Snapdragon versions. Exynos was found to be superior. I wonder if same results would be maintained after the official launch?
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Or note 4 would not have a 64 bit version at all?
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How do we know which one is 64 bit among the exynos versions?
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from source code in vger.kernel.org
Pako7 said:
Exynos5 (Exynos5433) - 32-bit. Series Exynos6 & Exynos7 - 64-bit
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I thought the same, but it seems that it is really 64 bit. Some information in Geekbench showed an internal "version" code for A57 cores. Maybe Samsung decided to not tell anything about it's 64 bit design because the S805 is still 32bit and they don't want to bother the users that buy the Qualcomm version. Hav read an interesting article about that. Will search for the link
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I thought the same, but it seems that it is really 64 bit. Some information in Geekbench showed an internal "version" code for A57 cores.
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I already know about GB
Maybe Samsung decided to not tell anything about it's 64 bit design because the S805 is still 32bit and they don't want to bother the users that buy the Qualcomm version.
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I think so too
1st Review out from Russia of SM-910C model (Exynos)
http://translate.google.com/transla...dbox=0&usg=ALkJrhhH_KG0kFV6aV7xO0DNHZMnsDIABQ
OIS in action vs GS5:
Improved low light photos, samples in the article. Dynamic range looks good.
GN4 vs GN3:
GN4 vs GS5:
NOTE: The benchmark scores look little less than what we have seen. Nothing to worry. I am sure the Geekbench test he ran is for this result: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/811052
This is the lowest number in the Geekbench database, and rest all others are much higher.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?dir=desc&q=universal5433&sort=score
I don't get it guys... Which one comes with 4G?
I want to buy this phone by pre order at some online store in indonesia, 8.999.000 in rupiah
In the specification tab, they doesn't mentioned 4G.. Only 3G with hexa core(i think its exynos)
Which series comes with 4G?
Thanks
ciklek said:
I don't get it guys... Which one comes with 4G?
I want to buy this phone by pre order at some online store in indonesia, 8.999.000 in rupiah
In the specification tab, they doesn't mentioned 4G.. Only 3G with hexa core(i think its exynos)
Which series comes with 4G?
Thanks
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Almost all the versions come with 4G. I think just the N910H doesn't.
There is no hexacore model, take care.
Lodix said:
Almost all the versions come with 4G. I think just the N910H doesn't.
There is no hexacore model, take care.
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Ohh sorry, i meant octa core. 1.9 GHz Octa Core Processor (1.9 GHz Quad + 1.3 GHz Quad core) and 2.5G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) : 850/900/1800/1900 MHz | 3G (HSPA+ 42Mbps): 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
Really? so the note 4 mentioned above is N910H version? There's no specific processor mentioned, just like that one above...
Video reviews, now organized by date.
03/09/2014 - Marques Brownlee - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Impressions!
03/09/2014 - Btekt - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 hands on - IFA 2014
26/09/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Unboxing
27/09/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 In Depth Part 1: Fingerprint
28/09/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Front Facing Wide-Angle 2K
29/09/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Adaptive Fast Charging
30/09/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Benchmarks - (Thanks @emix)
30/09/2014 - Android Authority - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Unboxing and First Impressions!
01/10/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 + 128GB micro SDXC SanDisk Test
02/10/2014 - Android Authority - Samsung Galaxy Note 4: S Pen
02/10/2014 - TacticalMissions - Galaxy Note 4 Ultra Slow Motion, 4K, 16 Megapixel Camera Test (Thanks @TacticalMission)
03/10/2014 - Android Authority - Multitasking
03/10/2014 - UNDERkg - All the Galaxy Note 4 side by side
04/10/2014 - GSMArena - Hands on
05/10/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - S-View Cover
05/10/2014 - Android Authority - Full Review
06/10/2014 - MsBlackoreanlady - One week after
07/10/2014 - ThePapiGfunk - Gaming On The NEW Samsung Galaxy Note 4! [HD]
07/10/2014 - Danny Winget - Nice review (thanks again Emix)
11/10/2014 - PhoneArena - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Review
11/10/2014 - DetroidBORG - Samsung Galaxy Note 4: Unboxing & Review
15/10/2014 - PocketNow - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Review: The Best of What's Big
17/10/2014 - Btekt - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 speed sketching!
17/10/2014 - MobileTechReview - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Review
17/10/2014 - Flossy Carter - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Unboxing
23/10/2014 - Galaxy Note 4 Unboxing and First Impressions!
24/10/2014 - Well, not exactly a review (nor english) but we can see the Dual SIM slots here
Wow! The fingerprint works pretty good. I was worried about it. That is the only feature i likes on Apple devices. But this is very good now.
JoganJani said:
Wow! The fingerprint works pretty good. I was worried about it. That is the only feature i likes on Apple devices. But this is very good now.
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Agreed, seems better than on Galaxy S5. But, well... would be even better if we could just rest the finger on it instead of scrolling (like on iPhone) but still pretty neat.
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Agreed, seems better than on Galaxy S5. But, well... would be even better if we could just rest the finger on it instead of scrolling (like on iPhone) but still pretty neat.
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I guess if samsung copied that idea apple would try to sue, so samsung were left to try something else.
RCJ89 said:
I guess if samsung copied that idea apple would try to sue, so samsung were left to try something else.
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It's possible RCJ89 but I don't know for sure if Apple could sue for this... Motorola Atrix had fingerprint sensors years ago and I think that the improvement on the way it "reads" it's a natural evolution. But anyway, they sue for everything.
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It's possible RCJ89 but I don't know for sure if Apple could sue for this... Motorola Atrix had fingerprint sensors years ago and I think that the improvement on the way it "reads" it's a natural evolution. But anyway, they sue for everything.
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Apple is sue master (seuing machine ; ). They can sue for anything. I saw they were sueing for mere scrolling effect. They sew for icon pattern, Search feature etc.
If apple's sell is down...or competition is hard, then apple fires from sue machin.
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Apple is sue master (seuing machine ; ). They can sue for anything. I saw they were sueing for mere scrolling effect. They sew for icon pattern, Search feature etc.
If apple's sell is down...or competition is hard, then apple fires from sue machin.
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True fact! They not even know the meaning of innovation anymore. :\
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Thanks Emix, updating the original post with this new video.
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Why does the Note 3 destroy the Note 4 in several of these benchmarks??
Low FPS on -screen is expected, but off-screen? There's something wrong
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Low FPS on -screen is expected, but off-screen? There's something wrong
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The benchmarks used are all pointless, except Antutu. If you want to test the GPU no benchmark beats 3D Mark (The physics test is also great for testing the CPU speed).
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The benchmarks used are all pointless, except Antutu. If you want to test the GPU no benchmark beats 3D Mark (The physics test is also great for testing the CPU speed).
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Hope you're right! Gotta wait and see, but this lack of information even after S. Korea's release is killing me.
New video on first post guys. 128GB MicroSD Card :good:
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The benchmarks used are all pointless, except Antutu. If you want to test the GPU no benchmark beats 3D Mark (The physics test is also great for testing the CPU speed).
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DelBoy, who has an enynos version, posted the score of 16.239 on 3D Mark, which is less then the 17~18k from S5 (S801) and far behind the 19k from S5 "Prime" (S805).
What now? Maybe we should start considering that the 5433 isn't that great, at least for gaming.
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DelBoy, who has an enynos version, posted the score of 16.239 on 3D Mark, which is less then the 17~18k from S5 (S801) and far behind the 19k from S5 "Prime" (S805).
What now? Maybe we should start considering that the 5433 isn't that great, at least for gaming.
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I know, thought the Mali T760 would have been a lot faster (could still be due to unoptimised drivers (the results aren't consistent)), but still the CPU is what matters when it comes to a smooth performing phone.
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Some reviews of LG G3 were stating that SD801 (GPU) was not the optimal driver for running the whole system in QHD! I wonder now what will they will say with Note 4 Exynos GPU which is weaker than SD801 , it is at Note 3 SD800 level instead of SD805 level
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Some reviews of LG G3 were stating that SD801 (GPU) was not the optimal driver for running the whole system in QHD! I wonder now what will they will say with Note 4 Exynos GPU which is weaker than SD801 , it is at Note 3 SD800 level instead of SD805 level
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I had a Tegra 3 device (LG 4X HD) and they had this same optimization bla bla which NEVER came. The phone was fast for the time (2012), but not so good for gaming.
I wouldn't say the GPU is weaker than S801, but it's starting to look like less powerful than S805 for sure.
Do you think after unlocking to 64-bit would increase the GPU performance or this is just a long shot?
I think Samsung intentionally kept the GPU down, probably they will go all out in Exynos 7420. Otherwise can't explain why the kept the memory bandwidth so low. 760 can have upto 16 cores, at 10 core count it should be on par with K1.
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Do you think after unlocking to 64-bit would increase the GPU performance or this is just a long shot?
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The performance may go up but that's for CPU I don't know or expect GPU improvement other than possible future update of GPU drivers.
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CLARiiON said:
I think Samsung intentionally kept the GPU down, probably they will go all out in Exynos 7420. Otherwise can't explain why the kept the memory bandwidth so low. 760 can have upto 16 cores, at 10 core count it should be on par with K1.
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Hey man , that scores you have posted are nowhere near from what I have seen from 2 members here in XDA. And the scores that I found show that it is close to Adreno 330 levels. Samusung should have at least match it close to Adreni 420.
ive been seeing quite a few benchmarking videos of the N6 vs other phones with snapdragon 801 thru 805 and for some reason the N6 is really getting bad quadrant benchies
can anyone confirm or deny?
maybe its been fixed in the quadrant app itself??
People still use quadrant? I don't think that application has been updated in years I doubt I would trust to be accurate .
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Just out of morbid curiosity I looked, its been almost 3 years.
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Beside, benchmarks are not a true indication of real world performance. I would take them with a massive (Shovel sized) Pinch of salt.
en11gma said:
ive been seeing quite a few benchmarking videos of the N6 vs other phones with snapdragon 801 thru 805 and for some reason the N6 is really getting bad quadrant benchies
can anyone confirm or deny?
maybe its been fixed in the quadrant app itself??
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What is a bad quadrant result? Mine's showing 12907. The next one down in their list is HTC One X at something around 4000.
A little note about the quadrant tests; when it runs through the CPU tests, it bounces through them so quickly that it doesn't even have a chance to "settle" into the test. I test lengths are obviously hardcoded by number of operations, rather than by time, or an intelligent "steady state" algorithm. It probably doesn't even have a chance to turn on all the CPUs and run them up to full speed before the tests are over.
en11gma said:
ive been seeing quite a few benchmarking videos of the N6 vs other phones with snapdragon 801 thru 805 and for some reason the N6 is really getting bad quadrant benchies
can anyone confirm or deny?
maybe its been fixed in the quadrant app itself??
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quadrant? that's out-dated. better try with geekbench and antutu or may be 3D mark. BTW at the end of day, benchmarks are just some numbers, real-time performance matters
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quadrant? that's out-dated. better try with geekbench and antutu or may be 3D mark. BTW at the end of day, benchmarks are just some numbers, real-time performance matters
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i know all about the benchmarks and all that.
i want to know why the G3's snapdragon 805 is not getting what the other 805's are getting
as a matter of fact is about 25%-50% less
this is not an error in the software
right?
en11gma said:
i know all about the benchmarks and all that.
i want to know why the G3's snapdragon 805 is not getting what the other 805's are getting
as a matter of fact is about 25%-50% less
this is not an error in the software
right?
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LOL. G3 is equipped with a Snapdragon 801 chip. Gsmarena is there to prove my statement G3 has a Korean version which has SD 805. Global version has SD 801
en11gma said:
i know all about the benchmarks and all that.
i want to know why the G3's snapdragon 805 is not getting what the other 805's are getting
as a matter of fact is about 25%-50% less
this is not an error in the software
right?
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Probably ask in the G3 forum, but @doitright answered the question with quadrant
SAW_JOK3R said:
LOL. G3 is equipped with a Snapdragon 801 chip. Gsmarena is there to prove my statement G3 has a Korean version which has SD 805. Global version has SD 801
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reguardless why is the G3 scoring less in quadrant
wait i just woke up
its the N6 that is scoring less
why is it scoring ALOT less
en11gma said:
reguardless why is the G3 scoring less in quadrant
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"Less" comparing with?
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"Less" comparing with?
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N6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzjWFDa9PXI&t=50
13,000
note 4 + G3 and note 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj0X9e7LiPs&t=160
23,000 + 24,000 + 23,000
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N6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzjWFDa9PXI&t=50
13,000
note 4 + G3 and note 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj0X9e7LiPs&t=160
23,000 + 24,000 + 23,000
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Mostly compatibility issue with Lollipop. If you notice, Note 4 and G3 was running on kitkat. BTW if you test on AnTuTu, Nexus 6 scores actually higher than Note 4 and G3
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Mostly compatibility issue with Lollipop. If you notice, Note 4 and G3 was running on kitkat. BTW if you test on AnTuTu, Nexus 6 scores actually higher than Note 4 and G3
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i knew there had to be a good answer and it sounds like you got it.
i kept seeing that all other benchmark apps the N6 scrored correctly but that quadrant just kept puzzling me.
so its most likely LP that is causing some problem itself.
(i have seen LP cause other problems like in gps status toolbox) so i believe ya.
just wanted to make sure there wasnt some piece of hardware that was causing these abnormally low benchies.
thanks for the good answer
en11gma said:
i knew there had to be a good answer and it sounds like you got it.
i kept seeing that all other benchmark apps the N6 scrored correctly but that quadrant just kept puzzling me.
so its most likely LP that is causing some problem itself.
(i have seen LP cause other problems like in gps status toolbox) so i believe ya.
just wanted to make sure there wasnt some piece of hardware that was causing these abnormally low benchies.
thanks for the good answer
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Thanks for the compliment, really appreciate it I just ran quadrant on my Shamu and found the low score. The app is really old now. Last updated on on June, 2012. It used to be a great benchmarking app but now the major change is lollipop is actually making it to demand for an update.
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so its most likely LP that is causing some problem itself.
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No. Quadrant is causing the problem. It hasn't been updated for 3 years.
I wish google play had a way to filter apps that havent been updated for years at users discretion.
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No. Quadrant is causing the problem. It hasn't been updated for 3 years.
I wish google play had a way to filter apps that havent been updated for years at users discretion.
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you are wrong my friend
these phones all have the snapdragon 805
if it works on one it should work fine on the other
gps status toolbox is updated regularly
it also does not work on LP
en11gma said:
you are wrong my friend
these phones all have the snapdragon 805
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No, I am not wrong. Quadrant hasn't been updated to benchmark with lollipop. That is why the other phones get higher scores because they use older android versions. Lollipop is very VERY different from Kit Kat. The ****Problem*** is NOT lollipop. The problem is quadrant.
Kindly keep your comments to yourself if you don't know what you're talking about.
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No, I am not wrong. Quadrant hasn't been updated to benchmark with lollipop. That is why the other phones get higher scores because they use older android versions. Lollipop is very VERY different from Kit Kat. The ****Problem*** is NOT lollipop. The problem is quadrant.
Kindly keep your comments to yourself if you don't know what you're talking about.
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the other guy already covered this
you just saying the same thing but instead of blaming LP you are blaming the app
the app RUNS (quadrant)
it dont force close
there are other APPS that have this same problem with LP and these apps ARE updated regularly
gps status toolbox is one of them
it dont force close either
it just dont run correctly like quadrant (on L)
en11gma said:
the other guy already covered this
you just saying the same thing but instead of blaming LP you are blaming the app
the app RUNS (quadrant)
it dont force close
there are other APPS that have this same problem with LP and these apps ARE updated regularly
gps status toolbox is one of them
it dont force close either
it just dont run correctly like quadrant (on L)
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It's pointless discussing this with you. you clearly understand nothing. The problem is the app. It is not designed to Benchmark LP. Whether it runs or not is completely irrelevant. If you cannot understand this then there is no hope for you. Stop asking questions if you're unwilling to try and understand the answers.
I just want to know if it makes sense to buy this device in 2015? I always buy midrangers and don't like shelling out more money. So, what are your thoughts on this? With Lollipop supporting 64-bit does waiting for Moto G 2015 makes sense?
I think yes . It' s very fast and good
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With Lollipop supporting 64-bit do you think I should wait for Moto G 2015?
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With Lollipop supporting 64-bit do you think I should wait for Moto G 2015?
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I have a Mi3 and i'm very glad with it, bought it in February.
But if it was now, i'd probably go to the Mi4i, It comes with MIUI V6 based on Android L and it's a Snapdragon 615 (64bit)
JBolho said:
I have a Mi3 and i'm very glad with it, bought it in February.
But if it was now, i'd probably go to the Mi4i, It comes with MIUI V6 based on Android L and it's a Snapdragon 615 (64bit)
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Right. But SD800 >> SD615.
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Right. But SD800 >> SD615.
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The 800's CPU, on paper and benchmarks, yes. (Antutu on my Mi3, running latest beta MIUI V6 is on the 43k mark)
The GPU is not that different on actual performance, but the 615 is much more energy efficient.
The 800 (as well as the 801 and the 805), are beasts but warm up pretty quickly and Qualcomm's MP-Decision hotplug does not take very long to cap the CPU to half the speed, because the SoC goes very near the 60ºC mark in no time under heavy load.
If you read the news, that's why the 810 is a flop, they pushed the Krait architecture beyond what it can do, and they turned a mobile SoC into an instant frying pan.
Of course, you can always ditch MIUI, go to a Custom Rom along with some custom kernel, ditch MP-decision too, and go with manual frequencies... but then again, if you risk too much heating, the SIM card slot fries (because it's the only place on the Mi3 that expels heat more rapidly), the touch screen begins to take damage and after a while you'll be replacing it, and in the end it will render your phone useless.
Don't get me wrong, i love Krait based Snadragon's, especially the 800 and the 801, but the new 615 and alike, are made with smaller architecture and are much more energy efficient, which means, more battery friendly, and can sustain heavy loads for longer time, because they don't heat up as much, or as faster as their predecessors.
It's not the paper sheet specs that count in the end, it's the day-to-day real performance and behaviour that shows whether a specific SoC is really that good or not.
The PC world learned this some 10 to 15 years ago, when Intel lauched the Pentium 4's with ridiculously high frequencies, everyone was mind-blown to see those speeds right of the shelf, but everyone pretty much realized that those CPU's were pretty much useless in no time, unless you had expensive custom cooling on your setup. Qualcomm made the same mistake.
JBolho said:
The 800's CPU, on paper and benchmarks, yes. (Antutu on my Mi3, running latest beta MIUI V6 is on the 43k mark)
The GPU is not that different on actual performance, but the 615 is much more energy efficient.
The 800 (as well as the 801 and the 805), are beasts but warm up pretty quickly and Qualcomm's MP-Decision hotplug does not take very long to cap the CPU to half the speed, because the SoC goes very near the 60ºC mark in no time under heavy load.
If you read the news, that's why the 810 is a flop, they pushed the Krait architecture beyond what it can do, and they turned a mobile SoC into an instant frying pan.
Of course, you can always ditch MIUI, go to a Custom Rom along with some custom kernel, ditch MP-decision too, and go with manual frequencies... but then again, if you risk too much heating, the SIM card slot fries (because it's the only place on the Mi3 that expels heat more rapidly), the touch screen begins to take damage and after a while you'll be replacing it, and in the end it will render your phone useless.
Don't get me wrong, i love Krait based Snadragon's, especially the 800 and the 801, but the new 615 and alike, are made with smaller architecture and are much more energy efficient, which means, more battery friendly, and can sustain heavy loads for longer time, because they don't heat up as much, or as faster as their predecessors.
It's not the paper sheet specs that count in the end, it's the day-to-day real performance and behaviour that shows whether a specific SoC is really that good or not.
The PC world learned this some 10 to 15 years ago, when Intel lauched the Pentium 4's with ridiculously high frequencies, everyone was mind-blown to see those speeds right of the shelf, but everyone pretty much realized that those CPU's were pretty much useless in no time, unless you had expensive custom cooling on your setup. Qualcomm made the same mistake.
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IMO SD800 is the better option. Here's a couple of reasons why:
* big.little is relatively new tech and needs more time to mature. It might look good on both performance and battery life fronts on paper maybe, but is there really any one phone in the market currently that beats current SD80X in both performance and battery life? (GSMArena's reviews suggest that Xperia Z3C is the recent gen phone that scores solidly on both counts and it runs on a SD801. One other phone with a better battery is the OnePlus One which also runs on the same chip.). The funniest thing that I find about SD615 is that big.little is supposed to bring two architechtures together as it was demoed using Cortex A-15 & A-7 clusters, but both clusters of SD615 are A-53 (A53 = 64bit A7).
* Both SD80x and SD615 are build on the same 28nm process. The HPM process also supports ultra-low modes which LP doesn't. More here: http://www.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/technology/28nm.htm
* SD80x can give you both performance (on >2Ghz) and battery life (when underclocked) though not at the same time.
* Finally the Adreno 405 on SD615 is less powerful that the Adreno 330 on SD80x.
These are just a few reasons that came to mind. I am sure that I can find many more reasons if I looked around a bit more.
If you flash roms, go for moto G. If not, go for Mi4i
whyzee said:
IMO SD800 is the better option. Here's a couple of reasons why:
* big.little is relatively new tech and needs more time to mature. It might look good on both performance and battery life fronts on paper maybe, but is there really any one phone in the market currently that beats current SD80X in both performance and battery life? (GSMArena's reviews suggest that Xperia Z3C is the recent gen phone that scores solidly on both counts and it runs on a SD801. One other phone with a better battery is the OnePlus One which also runs on the same chip.). The funniest thing that I find about SD615 is that big.little is supposed to bring two architechtures together as it was demoed using Cortex A-15 & A-7 clusters, but both clusters of SD615 are A-53 (A53 = 64bit A7).
* Both SD80x and SD615 are build on the same 28nm process. The HPM process also supports ultra-low modes which LP doesn't. More here: http://www.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/technology/28nm.htm
* SD80x can give you both performance (on >2Ghz) and battery life (when underclocked) though not at the same time.
* Finally the Adreno 405 on SD615 is less powerful that the Adreno 330 on SD80x.
These are just a few reasons that came to mind. I am sure that I can find many more reasons if I looked around a bit more.
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Sorry about the architecture comparison, i had the idea that the newer 615's and alike were not 28nm.
Still, does the 615 heat up as much, or faster than the 800 on the Mi3? I'd like to know more about that, because what i was saying was, the 800's are more powerful, but they heat up fast, so in some heavy tasks, they get capped pretty fast...
So unless you put it in "performance", the CPU and GPU will be put on lower freqs in just a few minutes of gaming for example...
JBolho said:
Sorry about the architecture comparison, i had the idea that the newer 615's and alike were not 28nm.
Still, does the 615 heat up as much, or faster than the 800 on the Mi3? I'd like to know more about that, because what i was saying was, the 800's are more powerful, but they heat up fast, so in some heavy tasks, they get capped pretty fast...
So unless you put it in "performance", the CPU and GPU will be put on lower freqs in just a few minutes of gaming for example...
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No probs. Here's a cpu frequency graph of Mi3 on MIUIv6 running at 100% load for 5 minutes.
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You can see that throttling is not as bad as earliest SD800 in Nexus 5 and Note 3. This is because the 8274AB is actually the 3g version of 8974AB v3 a.k.a. SD801. More info here and here.
Bonus: Mi4i also suffers from overheating back. Video here
If anyone is wondering, I did get the Mi3 and it totally rocks!
We have reached that time where the price of the Note 9 has dropped enough that it has become a really attractive option for those of us looking for a feature packed flagship phone at well below the $1000 mark.
I have decided that I am going to buy the Note 9, it's just a case of deciding which variant. I live in Southern Africa where we don't have support for Samsung Pay and we are not ready for the latest LTE technologies, so as long as I have working LTE, I am not concerned too much about these features.
With that said, it's still desireable to me to have the fastest option I can get within my budget because I want a fast and fluid user experience.
Apparently the Android Pie update has improved the performance of the Eynos variants of the Note 9 by a considerable amount.
So my question is, as it stands today, how does the Snapdragon variant compare to the Exynos variant in terms of performance?
Aside from performance and rooting, what other considerations or differences are there when deciding between the Hong Kong N9600 and the global N960FD variants? (Are there any major drawbacks or issues to consider when selecting one variant over the other? Build quality, storage performance/ Inferior components in one model vs the other etc..) (I read that snapdragon has touch latency. How bad is it and are there any other issues on either variant)
One unfortunate consideration is that my favorite color, the Metallic Copper, is unfortunately not available in N9600 variant. I have seen that the new white color is available in N9600 but I actually prefer the Note 9 in darker colors.
Note. I have confirmed that both variants support the bands for local mobile operators
Please help me decide!!!
how does the Snapdragon variant compare to the Exynos variant in terms of performance? This question has been answered countless times, just search "note 9 exynos vs snapdragon" on YouTube and you'll find loads of content. The difference is pretty small, I'm pretty sure you'd find it hard to notice any difference in real life.
Fastest - Probably N9600
Build quality - The same
storage performance - The same
Inferior components in one model vs the other - As far as we know, there should be no differences other than the SOC.
I searched for "touch latency" in the N9 Q&A area and this thread was the only thing that appeared, so I'd say that's probably not much of an issue.
The only difference worth mentioning other than performance and rooting as you mentioned, is game emulation, basically the Exynos isn't really supported.
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how does the Snapdragon variant compare to the Exynos variant in terms of performance? This question has been answered countless times, just search "note 9 exynos vs snapdragon" on YouTube and you'll find loads of content. The difference is pretty small, I'm pretty sure you'd find it hard to notice any difference in real life.
Fastest - Probably N9600
Build quality - The same
storage performance - The same
Inferior components in one model vs the other - As far as we know, there should be no differences other than the SOC.
I searched for "touch latency" in the N9 Q&A area and this thread was the only thing that appeared, so I'd say that's probably not much of an issue.
The only difference worth mentioning other than performance and rooting as you mentioned, is game emulation, basically the Exynos isn't really supported.
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I have searched for the difference on YouTube and google but the results are related to tests that were done before the Android Pie upgrade, as mentioned in my post above. There are some comments on those YouTube videos and on the Anandtech website where people are claiming that the performance of the Exynos variant has improved significantly, however there don't seem to be any official tests to confirm this. With so many members in this forum having both variants, I am hoping that we can get some answers here.
In the Anandtech tests, the Snapdragon variant was quite considerably faster in nearly every test. Certainly nowhere near evenly matched.
So, how close is the performance of the Exynos variant now after the Pie update with One UI?
Thanks for the feedback on the other questions.
So all you really need is someone to test an Exynos device on Oreo and Pie and see if the results differ. I'm happy to do that for you a bit later, name me the benchmarks you'd like to see and I'll see what I can do.
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So all you really need is someone to test an Exynos device on Oreo and Pie and see if the results differ. I'm happy to do that for you a bit later, name me the benchmarks you'd like to see and I'll see what I can do.
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If you don't mind (Since this will be quite a time consuming process), yes please, I think it would be really interesting to compare the Pie (On One UI) results with those in the Anandtech tests.
I'm not sure if I am allowed to post the link but you can Google the Note 9 Snapdragon vs Exynos test by Anandtech.
They used the following benchmarks:
PCMark 2.0
3DMark
GFXBench
Speedometer 2.0 (Runs in your Browser. Google it)
WeXPRT 3 (Runs in your browser. Google it)
Sounds good to me, I'll be flashing the Oreo and Pie versions of Devbase as it's as stable as it gets.
for what its worth here are some geekbench results done on a korean n960n exynos ( its not a 9600 or 960f as stated in recent discussions but i can vouch for the build quality, have not seen one screen or other defect issue reported from an other n960n user. cant say the same for 960f or 960u...forums are full of them)
https://browser.geekbench.com/user/Bober101
january results are on Pie.
bober10113 said:
for what its worth here are some geekbench results done on a korean n960n exynos ( its not a 9600 or 960f as stated in recent discussions but i can vouch for the build quality, have not seen one screen or other defect issue reported from an other n960n user. cant say the same for 960f or 960u...forums are full of them)
https://browser.geekbench.com/user/Bober101
january results are on Pie.
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Out of interest, where was the n960n manufactured? It seems like the n960n is considerably less popular on XDA (a quick search in the Q&A area shows a total of about 5 threads referencing the device, out of the ~770 total threads), which is probably why we see less issues reported.
I know that 960f is for Australia and Europe.
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I've just finished testing Oreo vs Pie. Unlike Anandtech, I'm not using obfuscated applications IDs to avoid benchmark detection, I'm just installing direct from the Play store, so I don't know if that will have any effect on the scores. I'm also letting the device cool between tests and running on battery power (In the 50 - 70% range) as that seems like the best way to keep things consistent.
Here are the Oreo results: https://photos.app.goo.gl/JrA2XdaB8zcTZbNV9
And the Pie results: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HDGmEENdVsPLkdCJ7
It does indeed seem like some improvements have been made, I don't know where the improvements come from, whether it's the newer version of Android or tweaks Samsung have made. It'd be interesting if an owner of a Snapdragon device could do similar tests.
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I've just finished testing Oreo vs Pie. Unlike Anandtech, I'm not using obfuscated applications IDs to avoid benchmark detection, I'm just installing direct from the Play store, so I don't know if that will have any effect on the scores. I'm also letting the device cool between tests and running on battery power (In the 50 - 70% range) as that seems like the best way to keep things consistent.
Here are the Oreo results: https://photos.app.goo.gl/JrA2XdaB8zcTZbNV9
And the Pie results: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HDGmEENdVsPLkdCJ7
It does indeed seem like some improvements have been made, I don't know where the improvements come from, whether it's the newer version of Android or tweaks Samsung have made. It'd be interesting if an owner of a Snapdragon device could do similar tests.
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Those are some interesting results across the board. It is clear that Samsung has done a fair amount of optimization although the SD845 is still faster in most of the benchmarks according to Anandtech results.
Thank you so much for the detailed time and effort that you have put into running the benchmark tests and uploading the results.
I think you just may have convinced me to go for the Exynos variant in the color that I want, knowing that the performance has improved to within reach of the SD845. :good:
I wasn't really trying to convince you one way or another but to be honest, I'd say the colour of the device is possibly more important, you're looking at the device every time you use it but the performance difference between the two SOC's in real life is pretty negligible.
Exynos version has a stock call recording feature. Snapdragon not. This thing it a most important for me.
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Out of interest, where was the n960n manufactured? It seems like the n960n is considerably less popular on XDA (a quick search in the Q&A area shows a total of about 5 threads referencing the device, out of the ~770 total threads), which is probably why we see less issues reported.
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korea!
yeah i know but of those threads, i would of thought that at lest once would an issue come up. i also had a note 8, same deal, n950n pristine device. no one ever complained. but again as you point out, might be simple probability
one thing to consider, if the devices were not targeted to as a big population as the F's or U's( no pun intended lol ) then quality control might have been better because they simply produced less and... Maybe they produce nicer phones for themselves...lol you don't chit where you eat as they say.
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for what its worth, i had started a thread about note 9 issues:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/note-9-country-origin-vs-defects-t3841388
I wouldn't bother with any of that. Get a note 9 from whomever offers the best warranty would be my first choice of criteria.
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So i have now the note 4 ...i know old runner
But it's amazing phone
And of course i need to upgrade
There's a deal for note 9 for about 660$
But the problem it is exynos version
I can't make a decision
I wanted the snapdragons version it's not available any where i live
And there is no option expect the (one plus 6t) and it is near the same price
I think every advantage go to Samsung
The display the camera The mic the vibration motor
Just the processor is the advantage to the OnePlus and the 2gig of ram
But again it's exynos and i read allot of thing about the performance and the battery drain withe allot of benchmark and test
I play games ((pubg)) especially
Can you advice me ..?
How is the phone after pie update?
And did you play games...how was the performance ?
I consider my self heavy user
I don't know what to do i think my head is melting ....these a big thing to me i don't change my phone offen
And Samsung was good with me in the note serice
But the SOC is very frustrated
Thanks and sorry for my English
ahmedwhy said:
So i have now the note 4 ...i know old runner
But it's amazing phone
And of course i need to upgrade
There's a deal for note 9 for about 660$
But the problem it is exynos version
I can't make a decision
I wanted the snapdragons version it's not available any where i live
And there is no option expect the (one plus 6t) and it is near the same price
I think every advantage go to Samsung
The display the camera The mic the vibration motor
Just the processor is the advantage to the OnePlus and the 2gig of ram
But again it's exynos and i read allot of thing about the performance and the battery drain withe allot of benchmark and test
I play games ((pubg)) especially
Can you advice me ..?
How is the phone after pie update?
And did you play games...how was the performance ?
I consider my self heavy user
I don't know what to do i think my head is melting ....these a big thing to me i don't change my phone offen
And Samsung was good with me in the note serice
But the SOC is very frustrated
Thanks and sorry for my English
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If your budget allows you to spend more, you can get a Note 9 with a Snapdragon processor from eBay (imported from Hong Kong) for around U$700 - 800 including shipping. If you are fixed at $660 then there really isn't anything to consider, just go for the option (Eynos Note 9) that you have available to you now.
I think its clear from the results posted earlier in this thread that the performance of the Exynos variants has improved with Android Pie and isn't trailing too far behind the Snapdragon variants anymore. Battery life has also improved a lot since the launch of the S9 series with the same SoC.
As stated in earlier posts, the real-world performance difference is very small. The Eynos 9810 is still very much a flagship SoC and is more than capable of delivering top performance in the games that are currently available on Android. Coming from a Note 4, your new Exynos based Note will feel buttery smooth while delivering plenty of value in other areas as well. (Battery life, screen quality, features like new Bluetooth S-pen and wireless charging, camera image quality etc..)
As a side note, the Exynos variants seem to be getting updated to Android Pie with One UI already, while the Snapdragon variants are still waiting.
Byte_76 said:
If your budget allows you to spend more, you can get a Note 9 with a Snapdragon processor from eBay (imported from Hong Kong) for around U$700 - 800 including shipping. If you are fixed at $660 then there really isn't anything to consider, just go for the option (Eynos Note 9) that you have available to you now.
I think its clear from the results posted earlier in this thread that the performance of the Exynos variants has improved with Android Pie and isn't trailing too far behind the Snapdragon variants anymore. Battery life has also improved a lot since the launch of the S9 series with the same SoC.
As stated in earlier posts, the real-world performance difference is very small. The Eynos 9810 is still very much a flagship SoC and is more than capable of delivering top performance in the games that are currently available on Android. Coming from a Note 4, your new Exynos based Note will feel buttery smooth while delivering plenty of value in other areas as well. (Battery life, screen quality, features like new Bluetooth S-pen and wireless charging, camera image quality etc..)
As a side note, the Exynos variants seem to be getting updated to Android Pie with One UI already, while the Snapdragon variants are still waiting.
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Thank you very much for answering
I think you convince me to go with note 9
I can't order from eBay it's out of my budget
I think the performance gab between the two has decreased now after pie update
And i care allot for developer community in the long way
That's what makes my note 4 useable until now
One thing i can't keep out of my head
There's a phone half the price of mine with faster SOC and better game play (pocophone)
But as a package
I will go with note 9 exynos and try to forget :victory:
Good move! Your going to like the EXynos...
galaxys said:
Good move! Your going to like the EXynos...
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Is that a sarcasm