I've made my decision.... - T-Mobile LG G4

I have both the G4 and the S6, as you may or may not know the S6 is unlockable and has had root for a while now. Despite that, I have decided to keep my G4, the potential locked in this phone is way too much to give up on. Odd thing is, the G4
doesnt seem to have had its radios tweaked or optimized, the S6 is a touch faster both on WiFi and LTE. The downside is
the bloat ball called touchwiz. It's choppy and eats a TON of ram. UX 4.0 is far and away better. As far as the cameras go, the
camera on the G4 is faster at getting locked in on what i'm shooting, but when zoomed in, the picture almost looks like an
oil painting. Once we do eventually get the G4 unlocked, I hope we get a camera mod much like the one I had for the G3.
I'm also looking forward to viper4android, that's definitely a must have for Google music imo. Anyway, hopefully we'll get
our beasts unlocked soon.

I agree totally. I had the s6 for a while. It has some awesome features and the camera is great, but it always was buggy and the ram issue was horrible. The G4 may not be perfect but I am enjoying it a lot more than my s6.

painedglass said:
I have both the G4 and the S6, as you may or may not know the S6 is unlockable and has had root for a while now. Despite that, I have decided to keep my G4, the potential locked in this phone is way too much to give up on. Odd thing is, the G4
doesnt seem to have had its radios tweaked or optimized, the S6 is a touch faster both on WiFi and LTE. The downside is
the bloat ball called touchwiz. It's choppy and eats a TON of ram. UX 4.0 is far and away better. As far as the cameras go, the
camera on the G4 is faster at getting locked in on what i'm shooting, but when zoomed in, the picture almost looks like an
oil painting. Once we do eventually get the G4 unlocked, I hope we get a camera mod much like the one I had for the G3.
I'm also looking forward to viper4android, that's definitely a must have for Google music imo. Anyway, hopefully we'll get
our beasts unlocked soon.
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I concur with both of you. I had the S6 Edge and sold it for the G4. I'm just surprised we not only don't have root yet, but that there hasn't really been any direct talk of if anyone is close. That is a big concern to me. From my experience, there are usually folks chatting about their progress (or lack thereof). Anyway, love the device so far....

ShermCraig said:
I concur with both of you. I had the S6 Edge and sold it for the G4. I'm just surprised we not only don't have root yet, but that there hasn't really been any direct talk of if anyone is close. That is a big concern to me. From my experience, there are usually folks chatting about their progress (or lack thereof). Anyway, love the device so far....
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i agree too on going with the G4, i sold my nexus 5 and got the G4 before i even checked in here to see if it was rootable/unlockable yet
and the reason no one is talking about it is that so many people come in here complaining about no root or not being able to unlock their phone yet, but it is being worked on and in fact the devs doing it have unlocked carrier phones (from what i have seen), they are just working on a way to make it easy for the general public to do it and to make sure there is a way back or at least a way to not brick your phone. plus LG is on here too so there isnt much chatter here so that LG doesnt patch what they are working on before they can even get it out to us
it will come i am sure of it

Me too, i find this to be this first device i could use without root, i would still rather have it than not, but i could own this phone long term without it. Glad to see a positive note and people having the same experience i am with the phone. I also was a former S6 owner, my wife has it now so i can really check them out side by side and its no contest, and thats with my wife on a custom rom.

I was thinking how far phones have come since I got my first Android phone back in 2012 (Mytouch 4G Slide) Some great ROMS on that old thing. I moved on up to a Nexus 4 from that. The so called professional review sites claim that the differences between the S6 and G4 cameras are so small that it's hard to pick a clear cut winner, but I tell you, the only flaw in the G4's camera is the over sharpening. The S6's camera software kinda sucks, the viewfinder looks grainy and the pictures aren't any better. The ram issue sealed it for me, the darn thing has 3gb of ram available, how does T/W use that much?

Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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Rydah805 said:
Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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Me tooooooooo. Im for one thought this will be where i will end up building some roms and custom kernels but man im so frustrated it with this phone is not even funny.
My flashaholic coaster is over. Is so sad.....

Rydah805 said:
Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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define full flagship experience?
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and just because no one is posting about it doesnt mean no one is working on it. give it time, dang, the phones only been out for 2 and a half months. thats the problem with xda these days, we are so hellbent on having root and being unlocked so we can void our warranty and flash firmware to our expensive devices for what? so we can say "hey look i unlocked my phone and flashed CM on it, take that LG, now my phone is not near as good as it was when i bought it"
LMAO
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define full flagship experience?
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and just because no one is posting about it doesnt mean no one is working on it. give it time, dang, the phones only been out for 2 and a half months. thats the problem with xda these days, we are so hellbent on having root and being unlocked so we can void our warranty and flash firmware to our expensive devices for what? so we can say "hey look i unlocked my phone and flashed CM on it, take that LG, now my phone is not near as good as it was when i bought it"
LMAO
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It was a figure of speech. Lol. In reality, I'm good without root for a while.
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I just want ad blocking... Custom ROM's aren't my thing anymore.

Love the phone but the jank is really starting to get to me. Picked up my N5 today and was shocked at how much smoother it was than my G4

Hi all, jumped the Sammy ship after some 3.5 years using Galaxy devices (latest was a S4). It's actually the first time I get a flagship almost when it's been released, and so far this phone seems like a great device. I'm not looking for custom ROMs yet, root would be nice, but as it stands it's an awesome Android flagship.

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Love the phone but the jank is really starting to get to me. Picked up my N5 today and was shocked at how much smoother it was than my G4
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Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Biggest issue I'm having is with WiFi. I'm not sure if it just slows itself down or becomes unresponsive but there's something that's making my internet hang.

I had the same issue. I installed DNSet and my WiFi started working better
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ambervals6 said:
Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Same here. My One Plus is smoother and faster . Rooted Zmax is faster . Love the form factor of the G4 ,but text and mms issues are starting to annoy me to no end....

Because the N5 use stock android, the biggest advantage of the G4 is much longer battery life. For me it's matter because the battery on Nexus is non-swapable and battery life is not good.
ambervals6 said:
Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Left the note 4 because of the crap camera taking forever to focus and the gps that never could find a signal. At first i thought i made a mistake because of the lag i was getting before updating to the new N update and i am not looking back. The g4, at its 479 price point is a monster

davwman said:
Left the note 4 because of the crap camera taking forever to focus and the gps that never could find a signal. At first i thought i made a mistake because of the lag i was getting before updating to the new N update and i am not looking back. The g4, at its 479 price point is a monster
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So you do have camera focusing problem with note 4..I thought it was just me..

Related

G3 thoughts

I was converted to lg with Nexus 4, and have stuck with them. I was a long time HTC fan, but the g2 is the best phone I've ever owned.
I'm a little disappointed in the news on g3. It seems the screen will be bigger and a higher resolution, but the battery is staying the same? Isn't this going to severely change the battery life?
The processor isn't going to be the LG octa core we had hoped for, I am just really not too excited. Anyone have any good news?
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The good news is that the LG G2 is a great phone, and there is no reason to spend the extra money on the G3.
Thanks Devs, from my LG G2
Yeah I find it a bit ridiculous that they are going 2k screen yet many companies can't make a 1080p screen last more than 15hrs.
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Well I'm a phone junky. I've had the g2 longer than any phone ever. I just hope there is more to g3 than been released so far.
Also wish you could buy one of the new phones from One or OPPO and use them on Verizon
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G2 is still good I'll wait for G4, I think they are aiming too high on G3 with bigger screen and same battery size
I just don't get it sometimes. People are killing the HTC M8 and even more so the Galaxy S5 for being "more of the same", so LG works on a totally revamped UI, a (industry first) 2k screen and more that's yet to be seen and people are now complaining because they're "reaching too high"?
I understand the battery concerns, but that's speculation at this point. I am not a huge fan of the UI, but I also hated the original UI on my G2, it's grown on me with the help of LGs built in themes. I, for one, am glad they are trying to make their phones drastically different.
I have an upgrade I'm thinking of going to htc one m8. But was gonna give lg a chance to impress. How are the speakers on g2 I know will not compare to htc one m8.
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whishey said:
I have an upgrade I'm thinking of going to htc one m8. But was gonna give lg a chance to impress. How are the speakers on g2 I know will not compare to htc one m8.
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Honestly, with viper4android installed, along with a few sound increasing options ticked on it, my phone speaker is rediculously loud, stock its pretty quiet, but the potential for it to be loud is there.
I think HTC will inevitably be gone. Everytime one of the people does something that is of really high quality, such as their recent design guy, they leave. LG is one company that has the resources to go toe to toe with Samsung and Apple. I'm not complaining, I just don't want them to lose the momentum they gained. As for LG ui? I loved it from jump... Much better than Sense or TW
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I just don't get it sometimes. People are killing the HTC M8 and even more so the Galaxy S5 for being "more of the same", so LG works on a totally revamped UI, a (industry first) 2k screen and more that's yet to be seen and people are now complaining because they're "reaching too high"?
I understand the battery concerns, but that's speculation at this point. I am not a huge fan of the UI, but I also hated the original UI on my G2, it's grown on me with the help of LGs built in themes. I, for one, am glad they are trying to make their phones drastically different.
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The new UI will surely be ported to the G2 at some point, as for the hardware, I don't think they shot high enough. The hardware changes between the G2 and G3 just are not enough to warrant the cost in my opinion. I am with others, I will wait for the G4 or 5 before I make any changes. The larger screen higher res but same battery is going to be an issue. I guess we will see.
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The new UI will surely be ported to the G2 at some point, as for the hardware, I don't think they shot high enough. The hardware changes between the G2 and G3 just are not enough to warrant the cost in my opinion. I am with others, I will wait for the G4 or 5 before I make any changes. The larger screen higher res but same battery is going to be an issue. I guess we will see.
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It comes down to what's available. None of the new phones this year were massively better than last year. And battery technology has become lateral. 1080p is already as good as it can get..2k? Will or can anyone tell? The cameras are the only real place for drastic improvements and both HTC and Samsung failed to deliver. These companies keep pushing out phones because they have too now. Annual flagships are almost required to stay relative even when the technology doesn't support the need to upgrade. I'm excited to see what Motorola will do next. They're the only phone manufacturer last year that didn't use the latest and greatest and still hit the mark. Better camera, better battery life and better screen. all fairly easy to obtain. And they have a homerun
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I'm also curious if Verizon will pick up the Sony phone. That could be interesting
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big70tom said:
I'm also curious if Verizon will pick up the Sony phone. That could be interesting
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Forgot which site it was but they reported on a rumor stating it would be coming to Verizon. Seeing as how Sony is facing manufacturing delays though in other markets who knows when it will finally come to the US.
As for the G3 I'm just hoping Verizon doesn't push LG around in order to have a unique variant like they did with the G2. It results in a very limited amount of cases to choose from when compared to the standard model.
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I'm also curious if Verizon will pick up the Sony phone. That could be interesting
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I dunno if you guys have heard of Flowly (App that has several sources for Android news like Phandroid, AH, AC, etc) but I read a few articles on there that said the Sony Xperia Z2 will not be coming to any US carriers, not even T-Mobile. They'll sell unlocked phones in the US but that's it. I don't know why, but it seems like something on Sonys end is causing issue since not a single carrier will be selling it. It's lame IMO, but things like that are why Sony doesn't matter when it comes to anything Android.
*edit* http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...rrier-available-only-on-Sonys-website_id55546
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As for the G3 I'm just hoping Verizon doesn't push LG around in order to have a unique variant like they did with the G2. It results in a very limited amount of cases to choose from when compared to the standard model.
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I have grown very fond of the wireless charging though.
Yeah its cool, but I'm tired of being the bastard model too. Cases are hard to find. I'm anti iPhone but if iPhone 6 looks cool, I'm tempted to get it just so I can play with cases for a bit
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Yeah its cool, but I'm tired of being the bastard model too. Cases are hard to find. I'm anti iPhone but if iPhone 6 looks cool, I'm tempted to get it just so I can play with cases for a bit
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You should be kicked out of your own thread for saying that. Lol
We don't need a 100 cases. I'll gladly take Qi charging over standard back design. I only wish Verizon hadn't changed the back buttons.
Worry about locked bootloaders, not cases.
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We don't need a 100 cases. I'll gladly take Qi charging over standard back design. I only wish Verizon hadn't changed the back buttons.
Worry about locked bootloaders, not cases.
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That bootloader is what worries me. Since they blocked Loki with KK, the G3 is going to be in the same boat. But this time with no way to push a loki'd aboot since there won't be one.
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We don't need a 100 cases. I'll gladly take Qi charging over standard back design. I only wish Verizon hadn't changed the back buttons.
Worry about locked bootloaders, not cases.
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You mean You don't need cases and prefer wireless charging. You don't speak for everyone tho. I care less about wireless charging but enjoy a variety of cases to mix it up.
I agree on the boot loader. Its gonna suck
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Give up g3 for n6?

I have a g3, currently. I've never had a nexus phone, although my son had a n7 a couple of years ago so I'm slightly familiar with nexus.
I've been dead set on getting n6 upon release, but as I get more used to the g3, I find things that'll be hard to live without.
Something I really like about the g3 is the ability to just start drawing on my screen and then share the screen shot. Its called quickmemo and it's attached to the nav ring, very easy to access. I'm wondering if nexus has a feature like this?
The other thing is the clip tray/board. Does nexus have an accessible clip board with multiple past "copies"?
Will I need to get third party replacements for these things? Is nexus still as bland as I remember that old 1st gen n7?
I don't care to run custom Roms but I'm sure I'll root and use some xposed mods. Os updates is the biggest factor in why I want a nexus.
The thing about the G3 is that it's a lag fest so for me personally it's a phone that turns me off.
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Change your launcher to GNL. That might give you an idea of how the stock Android would be. Of course, a lot of the tweaks that the G3 has you may not see on the N6, but the N6 is still all about having the latest Android software. Not so sure about the G3. The AT&T G3 version has not recieved any updates, while there have been a few for the international G3 versions. At least with the N6, you would be getting update support for quite a while.
GNL still lags... or at least isn't as smooth as it is on the Nexus 5. I'm not sure if it's the stock ROM, or if this phone just isn't destined to be fast with this chipset. I do like some of the stock features of the LG ROM, but you can always find apps or other ROMs which build in similar functionality on a device like a Nexus. Just takes a little more work, but you can get things exactly how you like them.
I'm making the switch... The G3 is a nice phone, but does have a bit of lag. I thought it would be an upgrade from my N4. IMO the only improvement has been the screen. N6 will be even better!
XDA and the Nexus6 will blow the rest away!
I have the G2 and my friend has the G3. The thing I'll miss most is knock on/off, although N6 is supposed to have double tap or pick up to wake.
IMO G2/G3 have far less lag than Samsung phones and are a real design innovation with minimal bezels, huge battery life and a skin with useful features instead of gimmicks. I have no doubt Nexus 6 will be better though and plan on getting one.
N6 >>>
I'm enjoying this Nexus 5 other than the battery life. My Note 3 on AOSP was faster than it but this is smooth af and the N6 will be much more smooth
I'm going to be getting the N6 and selling my G3 (providing UK pricing isn't crazy).
Although the G3 is brilliant, and I don't have any of this so called 'Lag' I did originally want the N6, but needed a phone!
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I'll root and use some xposed mods..
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That's if xposed ever supports ART...
I'm going to use T-Mobile Jump to move from my G3 to the Nexus 6. LG isn't known for doing the best job when it comes to supporting their hardware after they have your money. Also, the nearly nonexistent development is a huge turn off for me. I'll miss some G3 features, but most can be emulated.
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partylikeaninjastar said:
I'm going to use T-Mobile Jump to move from my G3 to the Nexus 6. LG isn't known for doing the best job when it comes to supporting their hardware after they have your money. Also, the nearly nonexistent development is a huge turn off for me. I'll miss some G3 features, but most can be emulated.
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The dev isnt non existant, there are devs working on CM11 although with L and a new code base coming up, many devs for the G3 are waiting for L source to drop...the G3 with CM11 is alot more smooth than the stock rom, L will only improve it...the G3 is a good phone i've used it, isnt any worse than TW on a samsung device, but the the n6 will be the latest and greatest...is it worth the money to fork out for the n6 at 649 probably not for most ppl, now if you can sell you g3 for 350+ at 300 it mite be. That said as i've gotten every nexus device since the gnex as a result i'll be getting the n6
partylikeaninjastar said:
I'm going to use T-Mobile Jump to move from my G3 to the Nexus 6. LG isn't known for doing the best job when it comes to supporting their hardware after they have your money. Also, the nearly nonexistent development is a huge turn off for me. I'll miss some G3 features, but most can be emulated.
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The dev isnt non existant, there are devs working on CM11 although with L and a new code base coming up, many devs for the G3 are waiting for L source to drop...the G3 with CM11 is alot more smooth than the stock rom, L will only improve it...the G3 is a good phone i've used it, isnt any worse than TW on a samsung device, but the the n6 will be the latest and greatest...is it worth the money to fork out for the n6 at 649 probably not for most ppl, now if you can sell you g3 for 350+ at 300 it mite be. That said as i've gotten every nexus device since the gnex as a result i'll be getting the n6
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Like I said, the development is nearly nonexistent. Using Jump and paying monthly makes am expensive phone easy to bear so the price isn't an issue here.
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As crazy as it sounds, when I ditch the G3 for a N6 the one thing that I'm probably going to miss the most is the back buttons on the G3. I've never realized just how convenient it is to have all of my buttons on the back of the phone essentially right where my fingers are typically resting. It seems like I'm in the minority of users who are actually going to miss the G3. I've never had any noticeable lag problems with mine and it's a very well built phone with some nice features. This will be my first Nexus phone purchase; it's just too nice for me to pass up right now.
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As crazy as it sounds, when I ditch the G3 for a N6 the one thing that I'm probably going to miss the most is the back buttons on the G3. I've never realized just how convenient it is to have all of my buttons on the back of the phone essentially right where my fingers are typically resting. It seems like I'm in the minority of users who are actually going to miss the G3. I've never had any noticeable lag problems with mine and it's a very well built phone with some nice features. This will be my first Nexus phone purchase; it's just too nice for me to pass up right now.
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I have similar feelings about my G2, you are not alone, lots of people love LG phones. I like them much better than Samsung's locked down, Knox ridden, TW infested phones, that's for sure.
Im keeping sometime my g3 waiting for a clean stock rom with all crap removed. I sacrified my n5 and sold it.
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Im keeping sometime my g3 waiting for a clean stock rom with all crap removed. I sacrified my n5 and sold it.
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I would do the same if I were you too. I played with the G3 in a store and while I liked the overall phone (a bit thick for me and the screen wasn't as bright or vivid as I would've liked but the screen size-to-body ratio is fantastic) I would still hold onto it. I'm sure you can remove all the software and install vanilla Android L on the device.
'Sacrificing' the Nexus 5 for the G3 isn't such a big sacrifice you've now got a bigger screen in a similar sized device, bigger battery, better cameras & flash. The downside as noted is the OS but that can be removed.
In my opinion by the time the Nexus 7 (Nexus 6 replacement) phone arrives you will still be with your 'vanilla' G3 and be comfortable to upgrade then. No rush. Real world difference between a totally vanilla G3 and Nexus 6 would be negligible - I would go so far as to say that a vanilla G3 would match the Nexus 6 in everyday speed and probably have longer battery.
I have 2 G3's the Cat 6 (SD805) and regular SD801 model. Neither lag and I really love the G3 but I'm selling the SD805 model and getting a Nexus 6. I'm keeping my other G3 because it's a great phone. I just want a bigger vanilla android phone so the Nexus will be my daily driver while the G3 will take a backseat for now.
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I would do the same if I were you too. I played with the G3 in a store and while I liked the overall phone (a bit thick for me and the screen wasn't as bright or vivid as I would've liked but the screen size-to-body ratio is fantastic) I would still hold onto it. I'm sure you can remove all the software and install vanilla Android L on the device.
'Sacrificing' the Nexus 5 for the G3 isn't such a big sacrifice you've now got a bigger screen in a similar sized device, bigger battery, better cameras & flash. The downside as noted is the OS but that can be removed.
In my opinion by the time the Nexus 7 (Nexus 6 replacement) phone arrives you will still be with your 'vanilla' G3 and be comfortable to upgrade then. No rush. Real world difference between a totally vanilla G3 and Nexus 6 would be negligible - I would go so far as to say that a vanilla G3 would match the Nexus 6 in everyday speed and probably have longer battery.
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After using the g3 for some time, i installed lollipop on the n5, i loved the rom but the smaller screen felt like a toy for me, so i sold it to cut the price on the n6 and went back to g3.
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I have the G2 and my friend has the G3. The thing I'll miss most is knock on/off, although N6 is supposed to have double tap or pick up to wake.
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Yeah same here. Love my G2 and there's a few things I'll miss (but hopefully can emulate somehow) like the clipboard, the ability to force hide the navbar per app and to rearrange the navbar (I like mine Recents, Home, Back) but I'll miss most double tap to wake. So can someone confirm the N6 will have double tap to wake? I know the N9 definitely has
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[Q] any regrets?

Greetings All,
I'm on a Note 3 right now, and Monday or Tuesday it's time for my upgrade. I'm torn between a Note 4 and the Nexus 6. The last 3 devices I owned were Note 3, Galaxy S4, and Galaxy S2. I'm really looking to switch it up here, and step back from Samsung for a little while. The Nexus 6 is my first choice right now, seeing as the Note 3 has me pretty spoiled with the large screen and the s-pen. I guess my question would be, since I've been seeing mixed reviews for Nexus 6 around the web, does anyone here have any regrets buying this device so far? And if so, are any regrets stone cold deal breakers, or just minor issues? I'm really looking at giving "vanilla" android (if that's even such thing on xda) a run, and I've heard that the Nexus devices have had the most and best development as far as that goes. So I guess I'm asking if there's any major problems with the Nexus 6 that is not being mentioned in a standard review, before I go scoop one up in the next day or two. Many thanks in advance...
My only gripe with this device is the poor cell signal. My phone is constantly searching for a signal and it is really impacting my battery life. Other than that I am happy with this device, hopefully T-Mobile pushes the OTA update for WiFi Calling soon.
no regrets here. want unlockable, rootable device that I can do as I want with. this is my first Nexus device. got it from Moto direct. on VZW
have generally had moto devices in the past and like their overall solid construction.
like Samsung devices but they are always a but flimsy IMHO.
None at all, I came from my 2 G3's (D850 and F460) and haven't looked back. My wife liked my Nexus so much (except the size) she wanted a Moto X 2014 so I bought her one. This so hands down my favorite phone so far
If u get the nexus use HDR+ on your camera day and night looks amazing. I thought I would miss Samsung but I don't . I miss the knock on. With the g3 but that's something I can put on the nexus
My only regret was not buying this phone sooner.
I'd only have a regret if something with otherwise the same specs but a smaller screen came out within a month of release; I guess I also regret switching to T-Mobile right before release but that's a different issue.
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My only gripe with this device is the poor cell signal. My phone is constantly searching for a signal and it is really impacting my battery life. Other than that I am happy with this device, hopefully T-Mobile pushes the OTA update for WiFi Calling soon.
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Whoa, no WiFi calling?? I kind of need that for work....
Got it. I think I'm gonna go scoop one up tomorrow. Thanks all
I regret not waiting for the Nexus 6+ with the 6.7" screen.
Do you like to spend time tinkering?
twatts723 said:
Got it. I think I'm gonna go scoop one up tomorrow. Thanks all
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If you have the time to tinker and are willing to wait for things to get fixed or turned into features, this is the phone for you. If you have been using Samsung devices and think you will get anything close to the features Samsung adds, especially to their Note line, forget it. One thing the Nexus will help you see and appreciate is all the care and hard work that goes into their overlay. Things you may have thought were standard user options turn out to be features of branded manufactured phones. I have much respect for the care that Sammy and LG and even HTC puts in their phones now that I'm pure Vanilla. So, yes// there are definitely some trade offs I was unaware of.

Tried S6, thinking of returning it for Nexus 6

Good morning all,
I purchased my next new device over the weekend- white 32gb Galaxy S6. I absolutely love the phone. It is beautiful on the outside, and MOST of what is inside it, I love as well. My issue is with battery life. Now I know there have already been tons of reports of bad battery life leading up to the actual release. I had written these off as people who didn't know how to properly manage battery life. I knew battery life wouldn't be as good as what I am used to, but I never thought it would be as bad as it is. I am having to leave all the usuals turned of (wifi, bluetooth, location, ect.). No biggie. I am also having to go as far as using the app that turns off pixels in the display to conserve battery life. Even with this, I am getting less than 4 hours of screen on time. Just browsing the net, I can watch my percentage drop rather quickly.
This brings me to the reason for my post. I had originally wanted the Nexus 6. I had been waiting for it to drop on Big Red, so I didn't have to shave down a SIM card, or go through the hassle of explaining to Verizon, "Yes you will allow me to use this device on your network, even though you do not currently offer it." Well right around the time I was ready to make the N6 purchase, I found myself in Best Buy and saw they had a display of the new S6. I went over to check it out, fully thinking I am going to think this device is a joke. Well it wasn't a joke, and that is how I ended up with it.
All this being said, should I go ahead and pick up the N6, or wait for the next flagship to launch? The main thing that has me unsure at the moment is the outdated 32 bit Snapdragon 805 chipset. Now I know this is still a very capable chip, but am I being dumb for blowing $650 on a phone that is already one generation behind in the processor world? I always buy my phone at full retail to avoid losing my unlimited data with Big Red.
Am I making a mistake or should I get it and never look back, while enjoying the pure Android bliss?
How do you figure that 805 is "outdated" or "one generation behind"? 805 is the CURRENT STATE OF THE ART and won't be passed until you start to see the 820 come to market. No, 810 is not a new generation, its just a stopgap to satisfy everybody too dumb to realize that 64bit doesn't do anything useful for a cellphone. Its actually a crappy chip that sucks up way too much power.
The 820 is *actually* the next generation of mobile chip, which improves performance and power consumption compared to the 805.
jonmike13 said:
Good morning all,
I purchased my next new device over the weekend- white 32gb Galaxy S6. I absolutely love the phone. It is beautiful on the outside, and MOST of what is inside it, I love as well. My issue is with battery life. Now I know there have already been tons of reports of bad battery life leading up to the actual release. I had written these off as people who didn't know how to properly manage battery life. I knew battery life wouldn't be as good as what I am used to, but I never thought it would be as bad as it is. I am having to leave all the usuals turned of (wifi, bluetooth, location, ect.). No biggie. I am also having to go as far as using the app that turns off pixels in the display to conserve battery life. Even with this, I am getting less than 4 hours of screen on time. Just browsing the net, I can watch my percentage drop rather quickly.
This brings me to the reason for my post. I had originally wanted the Nexus 6. I had been waiting for it to drop on Big Red, so I didn't have to shave down a SIM card, or go through the hassle of explaining to Verizon, "Yes you will allow me to use this device on your network, even though you do not currently offer it." Well right around the time I was ready to make the N6 purchase, I found myself in Best Buy and saw they had a display of the new S6. I went over to check it out, fully thinking I am going to think this device is a joke. Well it wasn't a joke, and that is how I ended up with it.
All this being said, should I go ahead and pick up the N6, or wait for the next flagship to launch? The main thing that has me unsure at the moment is the outdated 32 bit Snapdragon 805 chipset. Now I know this is still a very capable chip, but am I being dumb for blowing $650 on a phone that is already one generation behind in the processor world? I always buy my phone at full retail to avoid losing my unlimited data with Big Red.
Am I making a mistake or should I get it and never look back, while enjoying the pure Android bliss?
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Both are very good phones but very different. The Galaxy has the best screen and a good cpu and the Nexus has better speakers and no bloatware. If you like to tinker the nexus is the one for you and if you don`t the S6 is your phone. Mind that KNOX registers the rooting process and it may void warranty dependent on where you live.
The Nexus is overall a great phone with good batterylife (user dependable) a good screen, good speakers and its very snappy and fluid. You can`t go wrong with either phones but it all depends on how you use the phone and what you want to do with it.
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Both are very good phones but very different. The Galaxy has the best screen and a good cpu and the Nexus has better speakers and no bloatware. If you like to tinker the nexus is the one for you and if you don`t the S6 is your phone. Mind that KNOX registers the rooting process and it may void warranty dependent on where you live.
The Nexus is overall a great phone with a good screen, good speakers and its very snappy and fluid. You can`t go wrong with either phones but it all depends on how you use the phone and what you want to do with it.
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This. You can't go wrong with most phones these days it just depends on what you want. Other than the camera, ignore the specs and ask yourself do you want a larger phone with pure android? Or do you want a smaller one with TouchWiz? Also, considering you're on Verizon, the S6 bootloader most likely won't be unlocked and root will be a challenge.
With that being said, I switched from the Note 4 to the Nexus 6. The Note screen and camera were much better than the Nexus 6, but I prefer stock Android and being able to unlock the bootloader and root. After waiting months hoping for someone to obtain root I finally gave up and switched and don't plan on going back.
I appreciate all the responses guys. I am coming from a Note 3 and I have always liked the larger phones, and in turn I am used to bigger batteries and longer battery life. I did not know that the Snapdragon 810 wasn't a new generation chip. I appreciate the clarification on that. I definitely prefer what the Nexus 6 has to offer, but I guess I was worried it would be outdated much quicker than the S6. I was lured into the S6 by their in-house chipset that seems to be crushing everything it is put up against in benchmark testing, and the fact that the build quality and design seems to be on par with an iPhone. I kind of thought of it as an iPhone running android because of how much the design has changed over the previous S5.
im sort of in the same boat.. im coming from a GS4 so anything will be an upgrade for me. my phone is pissing me off and im dealing with a stuck power button issue so the phone randomly shuts off and wont turn back on. was debating GS6 vs N6 but knowing on verizon i cant root or unlock the bootloader i think im going N6
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I appreciate all the responses guys. I am coming from a Note 3 and I have always liked the larger phones, and in turn I am used to bigger batteries and longer battery life. I did not know that the Snapdragon 810 wasn't a new generation chip. I appreciate the clarification on that. I definitely prefer what the Nexus 6 has to offer, but I guess I was worried it would be outdated much quicker than the S6. I was lured into the S6 by their in-house chipset that seems to be crushing everything it is put up against in benchmark testing, and the fact that the build quality and design seems to be on par with an iPhone. I kind of thought of it as an iPhone running android because of how much the design has changed over the previous S5.
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One thing of note is that most oems are aware when a benchmark is being run and have background processes (for lack of a proper term) kick in to falsely boost the results. If you google the idea, you will find tons of results from Samsung, HTC, and I'm sure many others.
Cant really go off benchmarks, even though I still run them on any new phone I am considering purchasing lol
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One thing of note is that most oems are aware when a benchmark is being run and have background processes (for lack of a proper term) kick in to falsely boost the results. If you google the idea, you will find tons of results from Samsung, HTC, and I'm sure many others.
Cant really go off benchmarks, even though I still run them on any new phone I am considering purchasing lol
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Good bit of information to keep in mind. I did not know that.
dansan382 said:
im sort of in the same boat.. im coming from a GS4 so anything will be an upgrade for me. my phone is pissing me off and im dealing with a stuck power button issue so the phone randomly shuts off and wont turn back on. was debating GS6 vs N6 but knowing on verizon i cant root or unlock the bootloader i think im going N6
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I am not sure how your current battery life is, but this S6 has been far from what I expected. I am using that app to disable pixels, which causes the screen to look bad. This makes me think, what is the point in buying this awesome phone if you have to disable most of its great features in order to get it to last all day. Since you are on Verizon, you will be happy to know that they have the Nexus 6 for $599 as opposed to $649 through the Google Play store. That is if you are okay with having the blue color, since Verizon does not offer the white one.
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I am not sure how your current battery life is, but this S6 has been far from what I expected. I am using that app to disable pixels, which causes the screen to look bad. This makes me think, what is the point in buying this awesome phone if you have to disable most of its great features in order to get it to last all day. Since you are on Verizon, you will be happy to know that they have the Nexus 6 for $599 as opposed to $649 through the Google Play store. That is if you are okay with having the blue color, since Verizon does not offer the white one.
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my battery life on my GS4 is not great at all, actually its pretty bad. Im running cm11 roms and this stuff is buggy as heck so thats not helping either. I wasn't impressed with the GS6 when I played with it in the verizon store, just didnt blow me away. plus i hate touchwiz.
I will be buying my nexus 6 from motorola, as I want white. I just really dont like that blue/purpleish tint to the MB version. I really wish they offered black but sadly that isn't happening. I'll probably just get a cool dbrand wrap as well.
for those who have ordered from motorola, from the time you placed the order how long did it take to arrive at your door? Im debating if I should mail it to my house or my job as I know they will need a signature and nobody will be home.
I've always had galaxy devices but looked to nexus this time. The only thing that i dislike the phone is no ext sdcard. Once i got over that. I love the n6 and will not go to a galaxy device again. The knox thing made my life hell with the s4. The s5 was a bit easier to deal with roit and all but tw lag was unbearable especially compared to my friends n5. Battery is great on the n6 granted it's bigger than the previous phones i had. Took me awhile to get used to the bigger phone. On 5.1 stock rooted encrypted and the performance is more than satisfying
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I've always had galaxy devices but looked to nexus this time. The only thing that i dislike the phone is no ext sdcard. Once i got over that. I love the n6 and will not go to a galaxy device again. The knox thing made my life hell with the s4. The s5 was a bit easier to deal with roit and all but tw lag was unbearable especially compared to my friends n5. Battery is great on the n6 granted it's bigger than the previous phones i had. Took me awhile to get used to the bigger phone. On 5.1 stock rooted encrypted and the performance is more than satisfying
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thanks for your feedback. ive had this GS4 since launch date and thankfully I was able to unlock the bootloader before they plugged that hole up. I dont mind not having an SD card as I had a Galaxy Nexus before the GS4. I also have never swapped batteries so i dont mind losing the removable battery especially since the nexus battery is huge. Also turbo charger and wireless charging is a nice thing to have. I'd probably use it just like you have, root it and unlock the bootloader. I just want stock android without having to use custom roms.
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thanks for your feedback. ive had this GS4 since launch date and thankfully I was able to unlock the bootloader before they plugged that hole up. I dont mind not having an SD card as I had a Galaxy Nexus before the GS4. I also have never swapped batteries so i dont mind losing the removable battery especially since the nexus battery is huge. Also turbo charger and wireless charging is a nice thing to have. I'd probably use it just like you have, root it and unlock the bootloader. I just want stock android without having to use custom roms.
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The turbo charger is great. I only use it once in awhile most of the time I'm wireless charging. With my galaxy phones i ended up making it look and run like a nexus device as much as i could. My friend convinced me that i should just get the n6 and try it. So much nicer and easier when it comes to updates too. Definitely don't regret the n6. And I'm very pleased with 5.1
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Just to chime in, I also came from the Note 3. I was in a real pickle as I didn't want to have a phone without a sd card but root was more important as it's beginning to look you'll catch a unicorn before anything Samsung gets rooted on Verizon...:silly: Anyway, rooting this device was the easiest I've ever done and I just bought a Meenova adapter and still use my sd card with that when I need it. I look at it as you have to give to get, if you want root on Big Red you may have to give up something and what I gave up wasn't all that bad in the end for the freedom I now have. Just some thoughts from me.
P.S. - Plus I don't want to have to give up my signature....
Curious if anyone has gone the other way switching from N6 to S6. I am considering it, but I don't want to rush into it. I know the pros and cons of each, but I'm just wondering if anyone switched from N6 to S6 and has a good experience.
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Curious if anyone has gone the other way switching from N6 to S6. I am considering it, but I don't want to rush into it. I know the pros and cons of each, but I'm just wondering if anyone switched from N6 to S6 and has a good experience.
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Obviously I cannot help with going from the N6 to the S6, but I will try to report back once I get the N6 and let you know how the two devices compare and if there was anything I preferred on the S6.
All I can say is, an an att retail employee, I still think the N6 is the best overall phone right now. Camera isn't terribly important to me, screen quality, screen size, battery life, and customization is what I look for and N6 wins in all 4 categories. The N6 still has a QHD screen and the size is great for gaming or netflix/YouTube. Just my two cents, I'm either going to get the m9 (half off purchase program for wireless employees with free upgrade every year... No contract) due to bootloader situation, purchase a N6 for my personal device or wait for one-plus-two. S6 is nice, but mostly hype, IMHO.
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Curious if anyone has gone the other way switching from N6 to S6. I am considering it, but I don't want to rush into it. I know the pros and cons of each, but I'm just wondering if anyone switched from N6 to S6 and has a good experience.
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I did for one week then went back to my N6. The S6 is very nice. The N6 is a much better software experience IF you favor stock android. That's what it came down to for me.
Thanks for this thread you guys! Exactly why I love xda! Currently have the Nexus 5 after owning the Galaxy S1, S2 and S4. Couldn't be more happy with the Nexus 5 but battery life is pretty terrible for me on that device. I sneak around the Nexus 6 as I would like the bigger screen, better battery and better speaker but after seeing the Galaxy S6 I was also torn towards that a bit. This thread is really helpful for me and so far I think Nexus 6 is the way to go.
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Thanks for this thread you guys! Exactly why I love xda! Currently have the Nexus 5 after owning the Galaxy S1, S2 and S4. Couldn't be more happy with the Nexus 5 but battery life is pretty terrible for me on that device. I sneak around the Nexus 6 as I would like the bigger screen, better battery and better speaker but after seeing the Galaxy S6 I was also torn towards that a bit. This thread is really helpful for me and so far I think Nexus 6 is the way to go.
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Go for it and don't look back! Now I am stuck paying a $35 restock fee on this S6, but I think it will be worth it.

Who's moving on to a nexus?

Just curious to see if anyone is making the jump now that the new nexus' have been released for pre-order. If so what was your main reason? Easy root? More development? Hardware? Software? And if not are you staying with Samsung after the lock down they put on there phones? I myself have owned several nexus phones before and they have always been great, my only issue is there is always some hardware spec I'm missing, usually the camera. Right now with this variation I feel the 5.7 inch screen is a little much for me and know ois for the camera on the nexus p and the nexus x is the right size but way to underwhelming as far as specs go.
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I would if I didn't have to pay anything to trade
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You could probably sell your edge and recoup most if not all of the cost of the nexus... that or find someone in a few months willing to trade straight up
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I preordered my nexus 5x. I went from a nexus 5 to this and have regretted it ever since. My main reason is the openess..there's a huge battery problem that could be fixed without having to wait on Samsung if there wasn't a bootlock.
Yeah man after having several nexus devices I switched to the lg g3 then this and I miss the development possible with the nexus. I don't know if anyone from the att forums ever pops in on a nexus development thread but it's a virtual playground of new roms, kernels, and useful mods. Don't get me wrong I'm appreciative of anyone putting in work on the att variants, it's just nowhere near the support a nexus gets! If they would just come out with a soild camera and the premium specs the 6p has, I would've preordered also
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I am cant wait to get it. I doubt im ever coming back to samsung =(
I'm getting swayed myself. My notifications, device wake don't work unless with CM locker and then it's still not consistent. Then there are the gremlins here and there but there are some that really bothers me.
Plus I'm tired of my Nexus friends getting the new upgrades all the time.
I know how you feel, especially considering if I had a nexus right now I would have the marshmallow update already. Unfortunately I'm still stuck on 5.0.2 because I don't wanna lose root! By the time we see marshmallow it'll be on the SGS7! I sweat if tmobile gets it together with a consistent lte signal Im done done done with AT&T
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Samsung makes very nice phones but i really want more flexibility. I have already ordered a Nexus 6P and i hope i am going to like it. I am only worried because it is bigger than my edge.
If its your first nexus you will love it, theres almost too much flexibility! Youll find yourself messing with everything lol. The only thing is you dont get the gimmicky stuff as much as you do with manufacturers like samsung and htc. Some people miss that. The size difference, thats another story and partially why I have held off until I can hold one and see in hand the difference. I had the LG G3 and that is about as big as I think I can comfortably go with a phone.
Last time i had a samsung was the note 2.. i hated that phone so much i traded it for a optimus g pro. loved that phone still have it today. i swore i wouldn't go back to samsung. then the s6 appeared. 64 bit cpu exynos was destroying the benchmarks. smaller more efficient cpu manufacturing, awesome screen, glass, metal. smaller more efficient battery and finally tw had less bloat.damn made me change my mind. i had to pre order....... i have hated this phone since month 3 of owning. i hate this samsung. cant wait to get rid of it. i gave my htc m8 for this crap. m8 never lagged like this pos and battery was better. and the phone seemed faster idk how or why. samsung made me hate samsung. so yeah im getting a nexus just can't decide which. waiting on the reviews. not making the same mistake of pre ordering
Yeah man I know, that's why I skipped the s5. I've owned the sgs2, Samsung galaxy nexus, Sgs3, and sgs4. I got in on the sgs4 while there was still a bootloader exploit, however once i saw they locked it down in a way where the later versions could only use safestrap I was like, no way will I ever come back to Sammy. Skipped the sgs5 and went with the LG G3 but was lured back by the specs on this phone!! Samsung always has the hardware I want in a phone, best cpu, great screen, good camera, couple cool little gimmicks to play with... but this allowing manufacturers to lock down bootloader and essentially kill the dev scene is really pissing me off. I have always bought my wife HTC phones when I upgrade because I can never decide between 2 phones, her m8 still running as smooth as day she got it, I didn't even unlock and rom it like I usually do. I just cannot find the perfect storm of cutting edge specs that I want and development to go with. Sucks!!!
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The reasons I like Samsung phones is their hardware. Great camera, screens, better memory configurations, and lately the design of the phone. If all that was put into the nexus then it'd be an easy decision. Unfortunately the nexus lacks that. Idk what my next phone is going to be after this debacle.
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