I wanted to start a thread directly related to cables that are confirmed "charging rapidly." There are a handful of posts around here that talk about usb A to C but I had a hard time finding cables that actually brought the message up on my phone. Lastly before I start the list I wanted to mention that I understand the Nexus 5X I usb 2.0 only but just due to a future proofing mentality I prefer 3.0 cables.
I will update this thread accordingly as more people post results of cables that do support fast charging. During the testing make sure you are using a charger that supports high amperage output. I am using the following charger that supports 3.0 amp output per port.
Cables Confirmed Charging Rapidly
USB Type C To USB Type A Cable, TechMatte® USB 3.0 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) Type C (USB-C) Charging Data Sync Cable - Does not follow usb spec. [edit] as of 11/18 customers that have purchased this cable can request a new-to-spec cable from Techmatte and they will ship a new one. I will review the new unit when it comes in.
PECHAM B32 USB 3.1 Type C Male to Type A USB 3.0 Male Cable - usb spec. unconfirmed
Google - USB Type-C to USB Standard-A Plug Cable - Does follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
USB Type C Cable, CHOETECH 3.3ft - Does not follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
Cables Confirmed Not Charging Rapidly
BuyCheapCables® 6Ft. USB 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard Type-A Male - usb spec. unconfirmed
Juiced Systems USB-C (USB Type-C) to USB 3.0 - Does not follow usb spec.
USB 3.1 Type C Cable, JOTO USB-C 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard USB 3.0 Type A Male Charging Cable - Does not follow usb spec.
Type C, iOrange-E™ 6.6 Ft (2M) Braided Cable with Reversible Connector - Does follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
OnePlus Type-C Cable - Does not follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
Hi, I read a lot of fast charging cables...but did not noticed those..where is the techmatte confirmed? Tnx
fosser2 said:
I wanted to start a thread directly related to cables that are confirmed "charging rapidly." There are a handful of posts around here that talk about usb A to C but I had a hard time finding cables that actually brought the message up on my phone. Lastly before I start the list I wanted to mention that I understand the Nexus 5X I usb 2.0 only but just due to a future proofing mentality I prefer 3.0 cables.
I will update this thread accordingly as more people post results of cables that do support fast charging. During the testing make sure you are using a charger that supports high amperage output. I am using the following charger that supports 3.0 amp output per port.
Cables Confirmed Charging Rapidly
USB Type C To USB Type A Cable, TechMatte® USB 3.0 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) Type C (USB-C) Charging Data Sync Cable
Cables Confirmed Not Charging Rapidly
BuyCheapCables® 6Ft. USB 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard Type-A Male
Juiced Systems USB-C (USB Type-C) to USB 3.0
USB 3.1 Type C Cable, JOTO USB-C 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard USB 3.0 Type A Male Charging Cable
Type C, iOrange-E™ 6.6 Ft (2M) Braided Cable with Reversible Connector
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But beware some of those "fast charging USB A to C cable are not to spec according to Google engineer
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roxtedy169 said:
Hi, I read a lot of fast charging cables...but did not noticed those..where is the techmatte confirmed? Tnx
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I can confirm the techmatte cable is showing fast charging. I cannot confirm if the cable is actually to spec.
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But beware some of those "fast charging USB A to C cable are not to spec according to Google engineer
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I totally understand. I have been reading all of the reviews that he has been posting. I will update the OP with approved cables later today if possible.
FWIW, the Juiced Systems cable shows 'Charging Rapidly' for me...
FWIW, https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable is back in stock.
iOrange-E cable shows rapid charge for me. Cost of cable has gone way up though though since I picked up mine. Probably not worth it.
I really hope this thread continues and gets more updates
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FWIW, the Juiced Systems cable shows 'Charging Rapidly' for me...
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Could you link the cord that you bought? If it is the same one that is in the OP please link the charger you are using.
BinkXDA said:
FWIW, https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable is back in stock.
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Thank you, I have ordered this cable. I will review when it comes in.
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iOrange-E cable shows rapid charge for me. Cost of cable has gone way up though though since I picked up mine. Probably not worth it.
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Interesting... I know for sure this cable did not show rapid charging on (2) Nexus 5X's that I tried it on. I was using a 3A charger. Are you sure it is the same one that is posted in the OP?
Tank87 said:
I really hope this thread continues and gets more updates
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I will do my best to keep it updated.
Here is the link to the Juiced cable I bought:
Juiced Systems USB-C
The charger is an iClever charger, don't have any details on it...
I have a Pecham branded A to C cable bought from Amazon for £6.59 so approx $10. Its well made, braided with metal housings for the connectors. Charging with this one shows Charging rapidly on the lockscreen.
I also have an A to C cable direct from the Google store £10 ($15) Also good quality but slimmer and much more flexible than the Pecham.
I only see Charging on the lockscreen using this one.
Despite the differences the Ampere app indicates a charge rate of Approx 1700mAH for both cables!
For these tests I used an Anker Powercore 20100 battery pack and an Anker 40W 5 port mains charger. charge rates were identical.
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Here is the link to the Juiced cable I bought:
Juiced Systems USB-C
The charger is an iClever charger, don't have any details on it...
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It is interesting that you were able to get this cable to register as charging rapidly. It is the exact same cable that I bought and returned and with a 3A charger it did not register as charging rapidly on my phone. For right now I will leave this cable in the category that it is in until further confirmation. I wonder if it is a charger specific thing?
basill said:
I have a Pecham branded A to C cable bought from Amazon for £6.59 so approx $10. Its well made, braided with metal housings for the connectors. Charging with this one shows Charging rapidly on the lockscreen.
I also have an A to C cable direct from the Google store £10 ($15) Also good quality but slimmer and much more flexible than the Pecham.
I only see Charging on the lockscreen using this one.
Despite the differences the Ampere app indicates a charge rate of Approx 1700mAH for both cables!
For these tests I used an Anker Powercore 20100 battery pack and an Anker 40W 5 port mains charger. charge rates were identical.
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I have added the Pecham cable to the OP. Thanks for the confirmation. I am getting the Google OEM cable A - C tomorrow. I will see if I can reproduce the results that you got with the OEM cable.
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Interesting... I know for sure this cable did not show rapid charging on (2) Nexus 5X's that I tried it on. I was using a 3A charger. Are you sure it is the same one that is posted in the OP?
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Cable:
iOrange-E 6.6ft cable
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W
Charger I am using:
Anker 3 port 6 amp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9D7RSM
My 5X shows "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen right now. It does not show that every time I plug it in -- but then again, neither does the stock charger.
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Cable:
iOrange-E 6.6ft cable
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W
Charger I am using:
Anker 3 port 6 amp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9D7RSM
My 5X shows "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen right now. It does not show that every time I plug it in -- but then again, neither does the stock charger.
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Up until tonight I didn't realize that charging rapidly does not show every time. I will dig into this further this week. I will also be adding the official OEM A to C cable from Google to the list.
I'm confused, I thought USB A to C can only suppose 2.4A max
You're using a charging brick that uses 3A output, does that mean .6A does not get used?
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Ironically "fast charging cables" are just out-of-specification cables, so if you want them just pay $1 for cables on eBay.
sturmeh said:
Ironically "fast charging cables" are just out-of-specification cables, so if you want them just pay $1 for cables on eBay.
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The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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The OEM Google cable (USB-A to USB-C) does not fast charge when you plug it into a non-fast charging compatible source (such as a PC's USB ports).
Any USB-C cable should be capable of fast charging when plugged into an adapter rated for 3A current draw.
Cables that are not to spec will allow the phone to "charge rapidly" when it should not be charging rapidly.
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The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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It displays fast charging because C -> C allows for more amps to be drawn
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It displays fast charging because C -> C allows for more amps to be drawn
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I agree with that, but there are certain cables that still follow the A -> C spec and allow "charging rapidly" when paired with the proper charger. I know they won't be capable of the full 2.8A - 3.0A but they can allow a max of 2.4A, and that's something that is ok with me.
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Wanted to do a shoutout to TechMatte Inc for giving me a free sample unit of these micro usb to usb C adapters. I got them in exchange for my unbiased review. So:
First: This is a two pack for a pretty reasonable price. Right now, it's $5 a piece. Not bad.
Second: Quality: These are plastic, but very functional. I have a multitude of micro USB cables from previous phones, and it's nice to be able to have backups laying around, instead of having to buy a bunch of USB C cables now. I leave the adapter plugged into the micro usb cable, and plug the adapter into the phone. Pretty handy at making the old cables still work.
Caveats: Size. This is a plus and a minus-- they would be very easy to lose. Also, the plastic feel. These work very well, but I can also see them starting to fall apart with heavy daily use. Not sure, but it looks like they wouldn't survive abuse.
Thanks, Techmatte, for the sample, and I would recommend these adapters!
Can you tell us what chargers you've used this with? Any of the Anker IQ chargers at all? I was looking at these (or similar items) to reuse the Micro USB chargers I have everywhere. Does the phone report that it's plugged into AC (in the Battery info screen), and does it report "Charging" or "Charging Slowly" if you look at the lock screen?
I'd be concerned about using an adapter like this since it could be potentially placing more stress on the phone's USB-C female connector than it was designed to handle. I'd much rather see a short (say 3" or so) Micro USB F to USB-C M adapter cable, so the stress gets relieved a bit by the cable.
compulov said:
Can you tell us what chargers you've used this with? Any of the Anker IQ chargers at all? I was looking at these (or similar items) to reuse the Micro USB chargers I have everywhere. Does the phone report that it's plugged into AC (in the Battery info screen), and does it report "Charging" or "Charging Slowly" if you look at the lock screen?
I'd be concerned about using an adapter like this since it could be potentially placing more stress on the phone's USB-C female connector than it was designed to handle. I'd much rather see a short (say 3" or so) Micro USB F to USB-C M adapter cable, so the stress gets relieved a bit by the cable.
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I bought this four pack a while ago, and just use them around the house/ office. It reports Charging when plugged in.
Hi,
Do they work as data/sync with the computer?
aiwapro said:
Hi,
Do they work as data/sync with the computer?
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Yes.
Hey I just got these today! They are small and go charge at a decently fast pace even though it only says "charging". I like that it comes in packs of 2 so I can have one in my car and one at home.
It's only been a day, but so far I approve of these.
got this one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40100033237...49&var=670529660301&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
$1.49 each and works great. Shipping took 9 days from China
rickyray9 said:
got this one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40100033237...49&var=670529660301&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
$1.49 each and works great. Shipping took 9 days from China
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Nice, does it fast charge or charge at a good speed?
buru898 said:
Nice, does it fast charge or charge at a good speed?
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I just tested using 3 configurations:
Stock LG charger and Cable 5V3A:
"Charging Rapidly" at +2621mA/h
Anker 5V2.4A charger and USB-A to C cable:
"Charging Rapidly" at +1285mA/h
Anker 5V2.4A charger and USB-A to Micro USB cable with USB C adapter:
"Charging" at +1225mA/h
Any thoughts on what the software engineer from Google has to say about the adapter and what potential impact it may have on our devices?
I'm a Software Engineer on the Chrome OS team at Google on the Chromebook Pixel and Pixel C teams.
I bought these two USB-C to Micro USB adapters from TechMatte and found they do not work properly with the Chromebook Pixel.
Upon closer inspection by our engineering team here, we have determined that this adapter is not correctly following the USB Type C specification.
The specification can be found here :
http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_31_102015.zip
Specifically, these adapters do not charge the Chromebook Pixel 2015 because the adapters leave the C-C lines floating, where the specification requires a Rp pullup to Vbus to identify the cable as a legacy adapter or cable.
Please see the document named "USB Type-C Specification Release 1.1.pdf"
section 4.5.3.2.4 for a description of why the Rp pullup is necessary.
Please also see Section 4.11 and the following note :
1. For Rp when implemented in the USB Type-C plug on a USB Type-C to USB 3.1 Standard-A Cable
Assembly, a USB Type-C to USB 2.0 Standard-A Cable Assembly, a USB Type-C to USB 2.0 Micro-B
Receptacle Adapter Assembly or a USB Type-C captive cable connected to a USB host, a value of 56 k'
± 5% shall be used, in order to provide tolerance to IR drop on V BUS and GND in the cable assembly.
In other words, since you are creating a USB Type-C plug to a USB 2.0 Micro-B receptacle assembly, you must use a resistor of value 56k' as a pullup to Vbus. This cable does not do this.
Please let me know if there is any more information I can provide about why these adapters are problematic.
If you are a consumer looking for a cable that is compatible with Pixel, do not use this one.
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Those who have their phone know the cable on the fast charger is 1 meter, which is not long enough to reach any table youd ever have a plug next to.
I tried two different type C -> Type C cables and neither would fast charge with the included wall wart.
Anyone find a longer cable that fast charges with our plugs? 2 meters would be great.
It's tough sledding hacking through all the different Amazon.com listings to get something with an actual USB 3.1 and 3A rating for a 2m cable. The ones I;ve seen are either out of stock, take forever to come from China or overpriced in the $25-30 range. Would love to hear from anyone that actually found one too.
I bought a type C to A from amazon for the computer and it charges rapidly on all my wall chargers down to 2.4 amp.
Monoprice was out, otherwise I would have ordered there. >>> http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13010
this is what I'm using, fast charges and mounts no problem.
http://tinyurl.com/oyahw4h amazon link
I would bet this will work. same brand as what I have, they have a real thick jacket on them. It's a good cord.
http://tinyurl.com/oyahw4h amazon link
edit, I just read the description on amazon for those cords
....Note for Nexus 5X/6P: In order to ensure FAST CHARGING, please ensure the charger can output 5V/3A. The cable can afford 3A current did not mean it can provide 3A. We recommend use Google official USB Type C charger with our USB C to C cable...
That monoprice page is goofy.. title lists it as USB 2.0 and then the description goes on to talk about USB 3.1
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That monoprice page is goofy.. title lists it as USB 2.0 and then the description goes on to talk about USB 3.1
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Monoprice 2.0 six foot c to c cable charges just as fast as the 3 foot cable that came with the phone. High quality stuff. The phone doesn't support higher than 2.0 anyway.
br125 said:
Monoprice 2.0 six foot c to c cable charges just as fast as the 3 foot cable that came with the phone. High quality stuff. The phone doesn't support higher than 2.0 anyway.
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USB 2.0 refers to the data transmission standard and really nothing to do with charging amps. Although, to be USB 3.1 compliant, I think the cable needs to be fairly stout to handle the increased loads in both data speed and charging power. My guess is this cable is in fact 3.1, but someone made a mistake updating the title.
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USB 2.0 refers to the data transmission standard and really nothing to do with charging amps. Although, to be USB 3.1 compliant, I think the cable needs to be fairly stout to handle the increased loads in both data speed and charging power. My guess is this cable is in fact 3.1, but someone made a mistake updating the title.
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I understand that. Monoprice's 2.0 c to c cable supports up to 3A. No point in spending almost double the price on the 3.1 cable..
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I understand that. Monoprice's 2.0 c to c cable supports up to 3A. No point in spending almost double the price on the 3.1 cable..
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What I am saying is that it is hard to even trust the 3A rating with the conflicting statements on 2.0 vs 3.1. Do you have the cable and have tested it? That would be different.
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What I am saying is that it is hard to even trust the 3A rating with the conflicting statements on 2.0 vs 3.1. Do you have the cable and have tested it? That would be different.
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Yes I do have the cable. Monoprice has that 3.1 description on all of their type c cables for some reason. The 2.0 3a cable works just fine.. I just went from 49% to 82% from when I went outside to winterize my boat and when I just went back in to check my phone, not sure how long that was, but a pretty short period of time. I usually put it on the charger when I turn on the TV at night and take it off when it hits 100% before I do to sleep.
I ordered this USB A to C one, http://.ebay.com/itm/261840366171 . The phone says Charging Rapidly. I have not done any data transfer with the computer, but upon plugging it in, the computer detected it ok. It ships from the US, but took a little while with standard shipping. Maybe almost a week;
just got some usb-c to usb-a 3.1 cables from techmatte this coupled with my Insignia 5v 2.4a charger from best buy are giving me a "rapidly charging" icon on lock screen
here is the cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01706YAXY
here is the charger http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-wall-charger-black/5689167.p?id=1219148349763&skuId=5689167
EDIT I am using a 5ft cable
OnePlus
Do0zman said:
just got some usb-c to usb-a 3.1 cables from techmatte this coupled with my Insignia 5v 2.4a charger from best buy are giving me a "rapidly charging" icon on lock screen
here is the cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01706YAXY
here is the charger http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-wall-charger-black/5689167.p?id=1219148349763&skuId=5689167
EDIT I am using a 5ft cable
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It might say rapidly charging but I doubt it's as fast as the stock charger. I've used a USB-A to type C cable, got rapidly charging, but it was only max 1800 mAh as opposed to the 2800+ with the stock one.
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You're right but its still faster than not rapidly charging
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You're right but its still faster than not rapidly charging
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Not really. That's not even faster than a regular phone that on a 2.0A charger.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Not really. That's not even faster than a regular phone that on a 2.0A charger.
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I dunno about that. I have used a couple 2A Samsung USB chargers with type a to c cable and my phone charges almost as quickly as the stock charger at least in regards of empty to full. I think the difference between the stock and alternate high amp chargers that are around 2A is how quickly it can do a partial quick charge from say 0 to 50% but from 0 to 100% I haven't noticed much of a difference.
I am using this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L2I0F4U
and this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013DAES3S
EeZeEpEe said:
It might say rapidly charging but I doubt it's as fast as the stock charger. I've used a USB-A to type C cable, got rapidly charging, but it was only max 1800 mAh as opposed to the 2800+ with the stock one.
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I got one of his cables to review... I got it to charge 2.2A + using a 2.4A charger. But I do think you are correct in that there probably isnt a 3A option with anything using USB TYPE-A. 3A seems to be the realm of pure USB TYPE-C.
I purchased this cable and it charges at the same rate as the short OEM cable supplied with the 5x.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAKLAD4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
caseyweed said:
I purchased this cable and it charges at the same rate as the short OEM cable supplied with the 5x.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAKLAD4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
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Thanks but unfortunately i got it and it didnt work, it just says charging with the stock charger. That sucks because otherwise its a great length and a really nice cable, guess I will have to return it.
ryan stewart said:
Thanks but unfortunately i got it and it didnt work, it just says charging with the stock charger. That sucks because otherwise its a great length and a really nice cable, guess I will have to return it.
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That's really odd. Mine registered fast charging immediately. I tested with Ampere multiple times and received the exact same reading with both cables.
Just wanted to know which third party wall adapter and USB combo everyone is using for their 5X that meets USB standard and achieves "rapid charging". Please provides links if possible.
So far I have the CHOETECH USB A -> C cable on the way, but do need a wall charger so please let me know which ones are good to use
CURRENTLY: OEM Wall charger + OEM C->C cable
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So far I have the CHOETECH USB A -> C cable on the way, but do need a wall charger so please let me know which ones are good to use
CURRENTLY: OEM Wall charger + OEM C->C cable
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I feel your pain! I'm rockin the same set up
I tried a Tronsmart fast charging wall adapter with a USB micro to USB C converter from ebay. I am getting the "rapidly charging" notice but Ampere and GSam both measure ~180 - 1400 mA. That fluctuation was worrying me so i stopped using it. Even at the lower measurements my phone was saying "rapidly charging". I'm not sure why...
links below
Tronsmart
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y8994SS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Converter
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-3-1-Typ...0332375?ssPageName=STRK:MERWX:ACTPNL:LNLK:ITM
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Also, using Current Monitor i am getting ~1800 mA and the fusb301/*/fclientur is stating "0"
At first I was using a techmatte adapter + micro usb and I saw that fusb301/*/fclientur was stating 0...but then my power pack died, so either it died cuz of enough usage, or it died because the techmatte adapter was not compliant. Either way I didn't know how to test, but I'm avoiding using the adapter and I have emailed the techmatte support people
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At first I was using a techmatte adapter + micro usb and I saw that fusb301/*/fclientur was stating 0...but then my power pack died, so either it died cuz of enough usage, or it died because the techmatte adapter was not compliant. Either way I didn't know how to test, but I'm avoiding using the adapter and I have emailed the techmatte support people
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when you try to use a USB A to USB C cord try using this app for your phone. It's extremely simple. Open it, plug in your cord and it turns red if your cord is bad or green if it's good.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...GPfaCn7hzdVRLnoXQ&sig2=T7OB5bkgcp3k2kJAtSVCuA
It shows up green...but Benson had said techmatte was uncompliant, getting really confused now
I feel like just using that indicator fusb301/*/fclientur of 0, 500, or 1500 is pretty unreliable...
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It shows up green...but Benson had said techmatte was uncompliant, getting really confused now
I feel like just using that indicator fusb301/*/fclientur of 0, 500, or 1500 is pretty unreliable...
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that app is only going to help you if you had a USB A to USB C cord. it will let you know if it is compliant. it turned green because you're using a micro usb which wont reach 3A. The plug would turn red if it reaches over 2.1 or 2.4 amps because USB micro cant handle 3 amps. Im honestly not sure how to test those converters for compliance
Hello,
So I just ordered a Nexus 5X. I am trying to figure out what the deal is with the issues with some USB C cable and what is the best option for aftermarket chargers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems USB A to USB C cables are 2.4A max. USB C to USB C are 3A max. So the way to obtain the fastest charging possible is to have a 3A wall plug and a 3A capable USB C to USB C cable?
I am content with the OEM charger for the house, so I am mainly trying to figure out what to get for a charger for my car. Should I be looking for a 3 Amp car plug and a 3 Amp cable? Or am I looking for 2.4A / 2.4A? I am totally confused.
Also, I read somewhere that the Nexus 5X has a chip on the logic board that makes it fully compatible for Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0, and that it may be available later on through an update. Anyone heard this? If so I may as well get Quickcharge 3.0 products.
If someone could please explain this whole USB C ordeal I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You!
EDIT:
I figured it all out. I ended up order the following:
Cable Matters 3.3ft USB to USB C Cable ( This will be my data / sync cable)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S8GU2OC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
Cable Matters 3.3ft USB C to USB C Cable ( This will be for my car)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAKL4TY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
Vinsic 3A USB C Car Charger (This has a USB C and a USB Port)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
The Cable Matters USB to USB C has been confirmed compliant by Benson Leung so I wont have to worry about it frying any USB ports on my computer. lol
Rektifying said:
Hello,
So I just ordered a Nexus 5X. I am trying to figure out what the deal is with the issues with some USB C cable and what is the best option for aftermarket chargers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems USB A to USB C cables are 2.4A max. USB C to USB C are 3A max. So the way to obtain the fastest charging possible is to have a 3A wall plug and a 3A capable USB C to USB C cable?
I am content with the OEM charger for the house, so I am mainly trying to figure out what to get for a charger for my car. Should I be looking for a 3 Amp car plug and a 3 Amp cable? Or am I looking for 2.4A / 2.4A? I am totally confused.
Also, I read somewhere that the Nexus 5X has a chip on the logic board that makes it fully compatible for Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0, and that it may be available later on through an update. Anyone heard this? If so I may as well get Quickcharge 3.0 products.
If someone could please explain this whole USB C ordeal I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You!
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Sounds like you got the info just right. What's important about A to C is the resistor used and that it meets specifications. If not it'll be asking a charger for 3.0A when it can't give it possibly leading to burning out the charger. For me, I got the Elegiant A to C cables (which are compliant) for older ports since C isn't as readily available. Good for old car chargers, old wall chargers, hotel rooms, shopping center charging stations, etc. C to C is necessary for full rapid charging so I'm waiting for a car charger and compact battery bank that support 3.0A type C.
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Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
Here is a good list of compliant cables, I wish I saw this before I ordered my cable.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
EeZeEpEe said:
Sounds like you got the info just right. What's important about A to C is the resistor used and that it meets specifications. If not it'll be asking a charger for 3.0A when it can't give it possibly leading to bring out the charger. For me, I got the Elegiant A to C cables (which are compliant) for older ports since C isn't as readily available. Good for old car chargers, old wall chargers, hotel rooms, shopping center charging stations, etc. C to C is necessary for full rapid charging so I'm waiting for a car charger and compact battery bank that support 3.0A type C.
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Thank you for clarifying. I thought I had it right I just wanted to make sure.
Also, I came across a 3A car charger. I already ordered it. There were a couple reviews that stated it wouldn't run at 3A, but there were also reviews stating that it does run on 3A IF you use the USB C port only. (It has a USB and a USB C Port) So I am assuming the people who had issues were probably using the USB side.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36?redirect=true&ref_=ya_st_dp_summary
gleggie said:
Here is a good list of compliant cables, I wish I saw this before I ordered my cable.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
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Thank you for the link! Everything I just ordered is on that list as approved! lol
minnemike said:
Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
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I'm trying to hunt down the article where I read it. I will update when I find it. (with a new post)
minnemike said:
Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
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I can't find the article I read that stated QC 3.0 (I think they were wrong anyways), but I did hop over to the iFixit Nexus 5X tear down page. I remembered that they always list the IC's on logic boards for their tear downs. Sure enough, the Nexus 5X has the Qualcomm SMB1358 Quick Charge 2.0 IC.
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318
Wanted a longer cable than what is original equipment for my Nexus 5x.
Grabbed this 6 footer and found the following....
A well made cable with good strain relief on the connector ends. The wire is very flexible and easy to position. Doesn't "fight back" like a lot of cables will.
Charges my Nexus 5x at 1200mA when attached to the oem charger. That's enough to charge rapidly.
This is not as much current delivery as the oem cable (1725mA) BUT, this cable is twice as long and well within the expected numbers for its length.
The fastest charging takes place with the shortest cable as current drop is related to the resistance in the cable and more cable equals more resistance.
This length is a great compromise from the stock cable as one is not always within 3' of a wall outlet.
ChauncyG
I have 2 of these cables, and these wont have "as much current delivery" because they have the 56k pull up resistor. They are considered to be in spec. My TechMatte cables (all 4 of them) won't make the phone report as "charging rapidly" though.
If you want a longer cable that is cable of faster charging you need to buy one of the "out of spec" cables. I have two of the JOTO cables that will do the rapid charging from ports that can supply that much power. They still slow charge from lower output chargers and PC ports though, assuming the hardware you are plugging it into is properly designed and limits output current (everything I have tried is). The JOTO cables are definitely heavier feeling (high quality) than the tech matte cables.
The JOTO cables are definitely heavier feeling (high quality) than the tech matte cables.
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Seconded. My Joto USB A to C cable feels solid and well built, supports rapid charging, and supports USB 3.1 file transfer.
OhioYJ said:
I have 2 of these cables, and these wont have "as much current delivery" because they have the 56k pull up resistor. They are considered to be in spec. My TechMatte cables (all 4 of them) won't make the phone report as "charging rapidly" though.
If you want a longer cable that is cable of faster charging you need to buy one of the "out of spec" cables. I have two of the JOTO cables that will do the rapid charging from ports that can supply that much power. They still slow charge from lower output chargers and PC ports though, assuming the hardware you are plugging it into is properly designed and limits output current (everything I have tried is). The JOTO cables are definitely heavier feeling (high quality) than the tech matte cables.
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Good to know. That said and acknowledged, my N5x does show "charging rapidly" when attached with this cable to the oem charger.
What is the current draw on your phone, at 50% depletion, when you plug it with your oem charger? Just curious.
Do you know what the threshold is for the device reporting "rapid charge"?
ChauncyG said:
Good to know. That said and acknowledged, my N5x does show "charging rapidly" when attached with this cable to the oem charger.
What is the current draw on your phone, at 50% depletion, when you plug it with your oem charger? Just curious.
Do you know what the threshold is for the device reporting "rapid charge"?
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I don't know. Best I can tell charging is 0.9 - 1.9 amps roughly. Slow charging is 0.5-0.7 amps. Rapid charging is anything above 2.0 amps. Seems like these figures should be some where easy to find, but I haven't found them yet.
The only OEM charger I have is the USB C one, so I can't test it with A to C cables. Neither length of my tech matte cables will "charge rapidly" from my Anker charger (Which can provide 2.4 amps to single port), whereas the JOTO cables will. This make sense though, as the 56k pullup resistor in the TechMatte cables should limit current to 0.5a on USB 2.0 ports, and 0.9a on USB 3.0 ports.
All I have is going directly back and forth between the TechMatte (in spec cables) and JOTO (out of spec). My Anker charger will charge rapidly with the JOTO cables, it will not charge rapidly from the TechMatte. Both cables report charging slowly from old 0.5 amp chargers. Both cables pass the Checkr app as well though.
Since this cable is USB C to USB C I don't think the pull up 56k resister would apply to the construction of this cable, would it?
I only have the oem charger with C port in it as well so I can't do any other C to C testing as none of my other device sources have USB C ports.
ChauncyG said:
Since this cable is USB C to USB C I don't think the pull up 56k resister would apply to the construction of this cable, would it?
I only have the oem charger with C port in it as well so I can't do any other C to C testing as none of my other device sources have USB C ports.
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Haha, so I'm a moron, and didn't realize (read) you got the C only cable. You are correct the 56k only applies to C to A cables.
So, I'm seeing some adapters that have USB-A output and say that they support 5V/3A output.
Do some of these USB 3.1 A to C cables support 5V/3A charging?
I initially read that it would only work with USB-C cables (not the A->C adapter cables)
Am I going to be able to do this, or is an OEM type adapter/cable my only option?
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I was looking at this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BBOE5A4
And
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YT688U0