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Battery Life

So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?

brushrop03 said:
So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
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Gonna need more info than that. You talking screen on time? or total? under what settings? full screen brightness?

Yeah screen on time with auto screen brightness. Pretty much on LTE all day. Only disabled bloat apps.

Full day with it, unplugged at 3am and at 8:38pm cst, I am still at 48%. Now I don't use facebook or Tweeter so that helps my battery life. Wifi at work weak and slow so I am on LTE most of the time.
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Same here. Only around 4 hrs with regular use. This device needs root.

Easily getting through a day with the phone. Most of the bloat disabled, moderate usage, Bluetooth/NFC/Wi-Fi always on, though mostly on LTE. I certainly don't expect this thing to last like my Note 4, but I'm pleased with the battery life. I get home with time to spare, and plug it in every night like any other phone, so its all good.

calientecafe2001 said:
Same here. Only around 4 hrs with regular use. This device needs root.
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Root doesn't mean better battery life. My nexus 5 had about the same battery and got about the same battery life as my s6. And that's rooted, stock, slimrom, and cataclysm. My G3 has about 500 more mAh than the s6 and I get about 5 hours of screen time. Stock battery was better than cyanogen battery.
It's not 2012 anymore. Root is almost obsolete. It's good for app removal, rooted app functionality, and customization. Even if underclocked and undervolted it doesn't change dramatically. If u want a better battery, buy a phone with a bigger battery. MOST people don't look at their phone for 25% of their awake hours (if avg sleep is 8 hrs.) The s6 will give u 3.5-4hrs of screen time on 14-15 hours of use. That is plenty for MOST users

prjkthack said:
Easily getting through a day with the phone. Most of the bloat disabled, moderate usage, Bluetooth/NFC/Wi-Fi always on, though mostly on LTE. I certainly don't expect this thing to last like my Note 4, but I'm pleased with the battery life. I get home with time to spare, and plug it in every night like any other phone, so its all good.
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Same here!
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We badly need root. Rooting my phone has always improved the battery life and performance of your phone.

Battery life today was better I think. Screen-on time didn't even show up in the battery usage list, so i'm not sure how much it used. 20.5hrs since unplugging with 14% left.
This will definitely be a phone I'll have to get rid of after a year. With constant charging and a sealed battery, this device really doesn't have a long life. That's my main concern.

Someone in another thread turned off Enhanced LTE (Voice over LTE) under network settings and saw a much better battery life (or lack of drain).

I am experiencing insane WiFi battery drain. I am foregoing the use of WiFi in the mean time. Seems to help.

oxeneers said:
I am experiencing insane WiFi battery drain. I am foregoing the use of WiFi in the mean time. Seems to help.
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Same. I tested mine and the drain is far less with WiFi off all together. No WiFi and I can get 6-7+ sot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3yfqsTbo3GY
dont know how true this is. i updated mine and going to see if it does indeed improve battery life.

Pure+ said:
Same. I tested mine and the drain is far less with WiFi off all together. No WiFi and I can get 6-7+ sot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3yfqsTbo3GY
dont know how true this is. i updated mine and going to see if it does indeed improve battery life.
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I updated the Samsung push service and it seems to have improved battery life for me. I will also try turning off the HD Voice and see how it performs..

iceman4357 said:
I updated the Samsung push service and it seems to have improved battery life for me. I will also try turning off the HD Voice and see how it performs..
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I updated mine plus turned off Wi-Fi and the hotspots setting in advanced Wi-Fi and battery life has improved. I still see screen as being one of the lowest factors for battery consumption. Our gs6 must have a very battery efficient display. Android os is now my top battery drain. I'm hoping an update to android 5.1 improves the system battery usage. I know it did on my nexus 6.
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if you heavily use it well.. thats pretty normal.. mine can last a day if i don't use it for browsing just sms.. but for calling it would mean smaller life

brushrop03 said:
So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
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I was getting horrible battery life like you because of cell standby but I disabled enhanced lte and did a cache delete in recovery and now I'm getting almost 5.5 hours of screen on time with brightness set at 25%-50% on WiFi/lte. If you want I have screenshot.

vontokkerths said:
I was getting horrible battery life like you because of cell standby but I disabled enhanced lte and did a cache delete in recovery and now I'm getting almost 5.5 hours of screen on time with brightness set at 25%-50% on WiFi/lte. If you want I have screenshot.
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I can vouch for this myself. I was getting pretty bad drain to the point where I was about to return the phone.
The cache wipe seemed to work wonders. Along with deleting and reinstalling google play services (I searched google play services in chrome, clicked the link and jninstalled reinstalled uodates , then did cache wipe)
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Battery life seems great to me.

Let's talk battery life

I have a new 1254. I never used the stock ROM. I unlocked it and put cm13 out of the box. I get about 5-6 hours of screen time out of it . Mostly browsing, I used it for movies on a flight. Is this good? Not sure what to expect. Would a stock ROM be better?
What's everyone getting out of their battery?

Daught said:
I have a new 1254. I never used the stock ROM. I unlocked it and put cm13 out of the box. I get about 5-6 hours of screen time out of it . Mostly browsing, I used it for movies on a flight. Is this good? Not sure what to expect. Would a stock ROM be better?
What's everyone getting out of their battery?
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i'm still on stock ROM (LP 5.1), rooted, bootloader unlocked, but running Xposed. I get great battery life (rarely dipping below 50% at the end of the day) to the point where I'm hesitant to flash anything else.

I'm new to this device (1 week old), changed ROM on day one for Mokee lastest nightly and battery life was really bad, it lasted half day. Yesterday I flashed BB kernel and Intelliprofile in battery saver mode and now I get almost a day.
I don't play games, mainly browsing and some GPS.
So far I'm really disappointed with the battery of this phone, I bought it for its massive 3.900 mah battery but it's lasting the same as my previous Galaxy S4mini (1900mah).

I went to computerfreak ROM. Moto ROM is definitely not as nice as CM. I want to see what this phone is really made of on stock ROM. Unless it's ridiculously better I will probably go back to CM.

Battery life is definitely better. My phone rarely warms up a bit. I wonder what causes this pretty big difference. I think my next step will be a custom kernel in cm13. I am guessing the cm kernel is way more performance oriented than stock.
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I'm new to this device (1 week old), changed ROM on day one for Mokee lastest nightly and battery life was really bad, it lasted half day. Yesterday I flashed BB kernel and Intelliprofile in battery saver mode and now I get almost a day.
I don't play games, mainly browsing and some GPS.
So far I'm really disappointed with the battery of this phone, I bought it for its massive 3.900 mah battery but it's lasting the same as my previous Galaxy S4mini (1900mah).
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What rom was on your s4?

Daught said:
What rom was on your s4?
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S4 mini AICP 10 (5.1.1)
Computer freak's ROM is LP
I'm going to try with Stock MM (MPG24.107-70.2 Brazilian 6.0.1 for XT1254[TWRP Flashaeable]) tomorrow.

I been on vacation since I started the thread. I get about a day out of the phone with some city map use, occasional browsing(1.5h max) , pictures 15 min of phone talking and about 20 texts. I have about 20% left at the end of the day.
Is the battery capacity displayed in apps like gsam the actual capacity or designed capacity? I wonder if I should just replace the battery.

I don't remember ever getting 5-6hrs SOT. Even when new, I would get about 3-4hrs... and I'm still getting about that on stock-44. It's good enough for my needs, but I still wonder how people get so much more SOT than I do... what am I doing wrong?!
My wife is barely pushing 2hrs SOT... really don't know what's wrong with her phone... still trying to figure that out. She ends up with a dead phone by the end of the day, with very little usage. (I game a little on my phone, and I still get more SOT).

I get around 4 hours of SOT with playing games and browsing. I'm using computer freeks ROM because I can't go without 4g. 3g is just so freaking slow it makes me not even want to use my phone.

For me, the best ROM for battery life is the Brazilian Marshmallow ported to droid turbo by @iiWoodstocK. I get ~6 hours of SoT and once the phone lasted 3 days with >6 hours of SoT. Usage included Youtube, WhatsApp, tapatalk, browsing, routine calls and text and a few hundred times of opening the settings and looking at the battery screen

I am finally getting great battery life
CM 13
BHB27 kernel
Interactive governor
Intelliprofiles
Govtuner set to daily
Greenified shallow hibernation most apps.
My locked phone battery draw with music playing is ~50-70 mah. Can go as low as ~30 without music. I used to be above 300 mah. Phone never warms up while idle. I get good SOT battery life, but I don't have numbers to compare.

jco23 said:
i'm still on stock ROM (LP 5.1), rooted, bootloader unlocked, but running Xposed. I get great battery life (rarely dipping below 50% at the end of the day) to the point where I'm hesitant to flash anything else.
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Let me chime in on this.. Do not put a lot of stuff on your device with stock rooted or unrooted.. My phone had Xposed and gravity box installed.. For some reason, a lot of apps tend to over heat this phone to the point were it become useless.. Hell the battery would drain in about 3 hrs of use.. I called Moto about it, and at one point my phone was 129F hot... This phone is fine, but can not imop handle a lot of apps... My wife Note 4 can handle anything I throw at it without ever over heating..

My phone used to get hot browsing... heck even sitting. Now it does not get as warm even with GPS and music streaming at the same time.
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Daught said:
My phone used to get hot browsing... heck even sitting. Now it does not get as warm even with GPS and music streaming at the same time.
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I turn WiFi and GPS off when not using them. Battery life on Bliss ROM with custom kernel, phone is always cool and battery life is amazing.

stock rom
4g, wifi, etc etc
at home with wifi about 6 to 7 hours
with 4g out about 5 hours

battery life

So, i bought XP few weeks ago, comming from z3.
I am very disappointed from the battery, compared to z3.
Want to ask you how many SOT you have, cos when i'm outside using lte i barely make like 3,5 SOT. Even dont have facebook app to drain the battery.
For 5min telegram chat it goes down with 2%.
Thats why wanted to ask you guys hows your battery life because i'm starting to thinking that my device is faulty or deffect.
Please share your thoughts on that, for 4 hours from 100 it went to 75now with only 30mins SOT

Might be a factory defect, my Xperia x performance always reaches a little bit over 5 hours of screen on time.

Have you seen details on battery usage?
Anyway, I can say that battery lives on Z3+,Z5,Z5 Premium are no match for Z3. See battey test on GSMARENA and you will see that XP got a lot less number compare to Z3 as well.

Yeah, sure its 400mah difference between z3 and xp, but still i think something is wrong, may be on wi fi only i can make 4,5-5h SOT but on lte, impossible.
Here some screenshots from today, took it around 9am from the charger

ice_lander said:
Yeah, sure its 400mah difference between z3 and xp, but still i think something is wrong, may be on wi fi only i can make 4,5-5h SOT but on lte, impossible.
Here some screenshots from today, took it around 9am from the charger
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It doesn't have the WiFi bug that the xa had on release by any chance. Not letting the device reach sleep properly, workaround is to turn off scanning always available inc when screen is off in settings WiFi advanced. It's since been fixed on the xa with a update appently, I'm still waiting on the update to hit the UK
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When i browse the web, or just chat it goes down very fast, draining as hell. Phone gets warm only from browsing and chat, here is 35degrees, but still i'm not using it against the sun, even now since i type this it went with 1% down from the beginning of the post writing wich is basically 2-3mins.
So when i use the phone w screen on then its the draining. My wi fi is off now i'm outside

Many people suffer battery drain from Google service (especially when they're using WiFi). However, I dont see anything suspicious from your picture except your signal strength. Very low signal strength would drain your battery real fast as well. I suggest you turning off cellular signal for a day, use only WiFi, and then see your battery consumptiom at the end of the day.
Another thing I would like to mention is battery capacity. Z3 and Z3+ has battery different of 150 mAh but from my personal experience Z3+ would last around 60% of what Z3 could. Its not only about battery itself, its also about what Sony managed on the kernel level to optimize power consumption. Sody has done very bad on this since snapdragon 810 era.

I made a soft reset, will see if there is any difference afrer 2-3 charging cycles.
Another thing is i'm living in Bulgaria, here my operator just introduced the LTE, so the network i s*** may be thats the case will listen to your advice. And try 1day without a cellular.

5 hours of almost continuous use, some of them using battery intense apps and games like Pokémon Go, most of it just reading stuff on Chrome at 50% screen illuminating consumes around 50% of battery for me. So if you're losing 98% charge iin 5 minutes, your phone probably suffers from some kind factory defect.

In 5-6 mins use SOT(browsing and checking instagram i'm loosing exactly 1-2% if i'm outside lets say 3%max if the screen need to be full brightness, hows yours?
Dont play pokemon, even dont have fb app, only instagram, shazam, telegram, viber and whatsapp and chrome.

ice_lander said:
In 5-6 mins use SOT(browsing and checking instagram i'm loosing exactly 1-2% if i'm outside lets say 3%max if the screen need to be full brightness, hows yours?
Dont play pokemon, even dont have fb app, only instagram, shazam, telegram, viber and whatsapp and chrome.
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Go to settings location tap the three dots top right then turn both the sliders to the off position WiFi and Bluetooth are scanning in the background even if they are both turned off in main settings. Makes a huge difference to the battery life on my xa.
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aidy.lucas said:
Go to settings location tap the three dots top right then turn both the sliders to the off position WiFi and Bluetooth are scanning in the background even if they are both turned off in main settings. Makes a huge difference to the battery life on my xa.
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Thanks, but allready done that, maximum i achieved 3h 38m SOT from 9am till 11pm, with LTE mostly, on wi fi i believe i can make 4hours SOT

I think battery capacity is the culprit that 400 is a big difference i used z5 premium and i got 4hrs sot only they should put there 3000 to 3200 mah on 5 inch screen Hope they fix their design im starting to dislike sony

I am testing as well at the moment. I hardly manage to get through the day. I am still investigating as it is quite hard without root. That was yesterday.
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styxter said:
I think battery capacity is the culprit that 400 is a big difference i used z5 premium and i got 4hrs sot only they should put there 3000 to 3200 mah on 5 inch screen Hope they fix their design im starting to dislike sony
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I couldn't agree more styxter! The capacity is TOO small on the XP!
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ice_lander said:
So, i bought XP few weeks ago, comming from z3.
I am very disappointed from the battery, compared to z3.
Want to ask you how many SOT you have, cos when i'm outside using lte i barely make like 3,5 SOT. Even dont have facebook app to drain the battery.
For 5min telegram chat it goes down with 2%.
Thats why wanted to ask you guys hows your battery life because i'm starting to thinking that my device is faulty or deffect.
Please share your thoughts on that, for 4 hours from 100 it went to 75now with only 30mins SOT
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I couldn't agree more Ice! I too came from a Z3, and the battery life on my XP is really disappointing. The 2 day battery life promise DIED IMO when the Z series ended. These new batteries suck. lol Way too small. The XP I saw was rated as having the WORST battery life of any 2016 flagship (even less than XZ's) AND the longest charging time. Kind makes me wish I'd waited for the XZ. lol Or just got the HTC 10 maybe, which lasts 70 minutes longer than the XP can. But XP and XZ have the better camera, so tough call. Camera or battery life? If HTC 11 bumps up the camera (10's was very good to great but XP's is excellent) another notch over 10, I may be switching back to HTC (used to have the One M8).
I have uninstalled or disabled the majority of bloatware including the Facebook app, but still. One day 6 weeks ago I had to leave early so was on a train by 6am. Even after enabling Stamina Mode and turning off phone 2-3 times over the day, by like 8 or 9pm that night, I was down to 5%! That is awful man. lol I'm really getting fed up with Sony and their BS, even though I do love my phone overall. But battery life is a major factor for me, as is camera and performance.

RockStar2005 said:
I couldn't agree more styxter! The capacity is TOO small on the XP!
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I couldn't agree more Ice! I too came from a Z3, and the battery life on my XP is really disappointing. The 2 day battery life promise DIED IMO when the Z series ended. These new batteries suck. lol Way too small. The XP I saw was rated as having the WORST battery life of any 2016 flagship (even less than XZ's) AND the longest charging time. Kind makes me wish I'd waited for the XZ. lol Or just got the HTC 10 maybe, which lasts 70 minutes longer than the XP can. But XP and XZ have the better camera, so tough call. Camera or battery life? If HTC 11 bumps up the camera (10's was very good to great but XP's is excellent) another notch over 10, I may be switching back to HTC (used to have the One M8).
I have uninstalled or disabled the majority of bloatware including the Facebook app, but still. One day 6 weeks ago I had to leave early so was on a train by 6am. Even after enabling Stamina Mode and turning off phone 2-3 times over the day, by like 8 or 9pm that night, I was down to 5%! That is awful man. lol I'm really getting fed up with Sony and their BS, even though I do love my phone overall. But battery life is a major factor for me, as is camera and performance.
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Yeah buddy, very disappointing from the battery side, lets hope they bring better battery life with 7.0 nougat, i also felt little bit f*** up when XZ comes with larger battery capacity..

ice_lander said:
Yeah buddy, very disappointing from the battery side, lets hope they bring better battery life with 7.0 nougat, i also felt little bit f*** up when XZ comes with larger battery capacity..
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I hope they do Ice, but I have little faith a software update is gonna make any real difference vs. the other 2016 flagship competition. And if it does, it will probably improve the competition's battery life too..............aka, very little difference. But I'll take whatever they can give me I guess. Not even sure if I will still be with Sony next year. DEF keeping my eyes on LG and HTC, who both currently have better battery life too than the XP and even the XZ (and lower charging times too).
Well, what's sad is despite the XZ's larger battery capacity, it's STILL only the SECOND worst on battery life vs. the 2016 flagship competition's, right behind the XP. lol I believe it only has like 30-40 min over the XP at best. Where the HTC 10 for example has a solid 70 min over the XP. And that's still on the low end, but at least there's a lot LESS BS when it comes to HTC phones than Sony's (though Sony's still have the slightly better camera, but that may not be the case with the 11 next year). And the audio quality and volume of the 10 def seems superior to what Sony is giving us these days vs. the competition. 2 years ago, it was much more equal, but in 2016, HTC took a big step forward while Sony seems to have taken 1-2 steps back. See my threads on Head-Fi for more on that (if you wish) here and here.

as it has a bright screen, I find that using a black theme and customize as much apps to black helps. Normally it can last a full day and it will have 30 percent left. I'm not a heavy user though.

Guys tell me about the battery i want this phone but i need battery that last at least full day sorry for my bad english

davinwilliam said:
Guys tell me about the battery i want this phone but i need battery that last at least full day sorry for my bad english
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If you turn your brightness to 1/4, no gps, no bluetooth, you'll make it through te day with like 5 hours SOT.

[N9208] Battery can't even survive half a day on normal use

Hello, I'm a new user on xda (but actually a longtime reader). I finally decided to upgrade to Nougat with OTA updates. My device works perfectly fine, except for the battery. I have another android running rooted stock Motorola nougat with similar apps and usage and able to survive until midnight with 15% battery left on on medium use, while my Note 5 can't even survive half a day on light usage.
In battery usage stats, most battery use percentage is the screen, followed by device idle. I don't use LTE with hope it can help, and using 720p resolution to see wether it can also help. The screen on time lies around 3-4 hours but the standby drain is very annoying.
My device has never been rooted. I'm considering flashing a rom if it can help the battery issue, but I use the S-pen a lot and don't want to lose its functionallity by using a rom without the S-pen apps. Right now I'm considering flashing a ported version of Note FE rom by RadeonMaya. Is it good for these purpose?
Any idea on what to do?

The Note5 is over 3 years old, don't expect good battery life. Even when new it was bad. 3-4 hours of Screen time is A-W-E-S-O-M-E. I only get 2 max.

cachanilla86 said:
The Note5 is over 3 years old, don't expect good battery life. Even when new it was bad. 3-4 hours of Screen time is A-W-E-S-O-M-E. I only get 2 max.
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Thanks. Perhaps i'll consider buying a battery case or something.

Get the battery replaced. I did mine myself and it's like a new phone again

Question M11 battery cheap or software?

Hi folks.
Aight m11 battery is pretty horrible ngl.
I got my m11 with miui 12.5. 1st day I got it battery dropped to 40% within 5 hrs with 30 mins sot.
I was sad phone trash.
Next day was better but very buggy battery still drain not as bad was at 60% after 5 hrs 1hr screen time.
Next couple of weeks playing with it.. Trying to figure out better battery usage but why should I its a flag ship phone?
Battery was still very buggy sometimes drained 20% over night sometimes it was fine. Got miui 12.5 enhanced slight improvement.
I got all excited waiting for miui 13. 1st impression very good. But battery life sot averaging 4.5 hrs 100% to 5%. Idle time very good too.
But now I got oneplus 10 pro. Yes oneplus had extra 500mah but I get more battery out of it ngl. Whole phone is better and I use it the same.
So my question is it the cheap hardware xiaomi use like battery for not so OK sot.
Or is it the software? Because miui 13 hella improved battery life and is very stable compared to 12.5.
And the roms on here will they have noticeable better battery life? People should know the difference between miui and own roms sot. I'm tempted to try it

I have a few months old Mi 11 Ultra with miui 13 and I am experiencing the same problems...
I think it combination of bad battery and software.

The 20% drop at night is a sure indication that something is running in the background... that probably doesn't need to be.

blackhawk said:
The 20% drop at night is a sure indication that something is running in the background... that probably doesn't need to be.
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Yes it was random sometimes did sometimes didn't. Yes but miui 13 fixed idle consumption.
My oneplus 10 pro 96% battery life 40 mins sot put it that way. And 80% is when the battery drains the least

Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But my battery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?

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Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But my battery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
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Most Samsung phones need to be optimized for best battery life.
Xiaomi's likely has to be as well. You need to find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Using manual brightness control helps save your eyes and battery.

Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But mbattery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
blackhawk said:
Most Samsung phones need to be optimized for best battery life.
Xiaomi's likely has to be as well. You need to find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Using manual brightness control helps save your eyes and battery.
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I have auto Brightness on hence 30% brightness inside. And I looked on my battery settings and nothing was running on Mi11 I've done nothing to my one plus 10pro and battery pretty good for a flag ship

Demon God b said:
Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But mbattery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
I have auto Brightness on hence 30% brightness inside. And I looked on my battery settings and nothing was running on Mi11 I've done nothing to my one plus 10pro and battery pretty good for a flag ship
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It's may well the firmware or factory loaded software. However it could be 3rd party apps misbehaving. Google apps tend to cause battery consumption troubles...
Android give you a lot of freedom to configure them the way you want. Cookie cutter Apples doesn't so it's easy for Apple to optimize their products. So with Androids the end user needs to pickup the slack many times and find work arounds or setting changes.

Yes but even if I use my phone straight off charge its still roughly 6hrs sot indoors (no sim) WiFi only 20% screen brightness. When I used it outdoors with sim 4.5 hrs if that . So I don't think non sleeping apps where doing it. I look on my battery usage and it says my apps used 3600 mah battery including screen with 25% battery left with 4.4hrs sot. So no mis behaving apps.
It might sound good but my screen brightness super low

Demon God b said:
Yes but even if I use my phone straight off charge its still roughly 6hrs sot indoors (no sim) WiFi only 20% screen brightness. When I used it outdoors with sim 4.5 hrs if that . So I don't think non sleeping apps where doing it. I look on my battery usage and it says my apps used 3600 mah battery including screen with 25% battery left with 4.4hrs sot. So no mis behaving apps.
It might sound good but my screen brightness super low
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You need to see how much each app and service are using, then figure out why. It takes some time and effort to track them down... a learning curve.
FB, WhatsApp, all social media apps should never be installed on the device. If you can't access them using browser login, forget them. They are nothing but trouble...

Yes bro I checked had enough of mi 11 no apps causing trouble checked for months.
Idle consumption very good lose 0% over night sometimes. I thought miui 13 would have substantial battery increase but only fixed idle consumption.
I thought maybe they would optimize battery usage better like Samsung 21 ultra.
My oneplus 10 pro is on 2hrs sot with 40% brightness and 84% battery life. Very good battery life no need to worry bout it dying when I'm out
Its not me thinks mi 11 battery trash too 90% reviews say to and GSMarea gives it a rating of 84hrs and the one Plus 10 pro 104hrs battery endurance
Now back to my original question is it xiaomi cost saving software optimization trash or battery hardware cheap?

Demon God b said:
Now back to my original question is it xiaomi cost saving software optimization trash or battery hardware cheap?
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You won't know until you work with it more trying to optimize it.
This Note 10+ was a hot running battery hog until it was optimized. It gets 7-8% @hr now when browsing with Brave. It took months to finally dial it in. Over a year to really get it right.
A lot of work. My second N10+ was a snap to optimize as I knew what to do.
One thing I do is not to upgrade firmware* or app updates as this can start another cycle of trying optimize the new firmware/apps. I'm running on Pie and Android 10, malware is not an issue.
*if I have a fast, stable OS... I let it be!

R u serious. What do u mean optimize? Putting apps to sleep isn't really optimizing.
Ur trying to improve battery when only really the developers can fix it.
Yes putting it in dark mode 60hz putting everything to sleep not running nothing fun having brightness on 0% will improve battery life but experience will be trash.
My oneplus Pro 10 is out the box restored all my data whatsapp 3 emails with sync on 4g nothing optimized. Screen brightness normal too (I want a good experience)
battery optimization or battery hardware is great. The layout skin in oneplus 10 pro its faultless too and looks alot better than xiaomi.
Other hand is xiaomi mi11 definitely a cheap battery or lazy developers to cut costs hence the price but one plus 10 pro is same price. But other xiaomi phones r very good battery life so I'm confused

Demon God b said:
R u serious. What do u mean optimize? Putting apps to sleep isn't really optimizing.
Ur trying to improve battery when only really the developers can fix it.
Yes putting it in dark mode 60hz putting everything to sleep not running nothing fun having brightness on 0% will improve battery life but experience will be trash.
My oneplus Pro 10 is out the box restored all my data whatsapp 3 emails with sync on 4g nothing optimized. Screen brightness normal too (I want a good experience)
battery optimization or battery hardware is great. The layout skin in oneplus 10 pro its faultless too and looks alot better than xiaomi.
Other hand is xiaomi mi11 definitely a cheap battery or lazy developers to cut costs hence the price but one plus 10 pro is same price. But other xiaomi phones r very good battery life so I'm confused
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Global power management never worked for me, disable it and deal with each power hog on a case by case basis. Limiting background data/battery usage in individual app settings doesn't invoke global power management.
Some apps like Brave browser need to be closed after use or they continue to run in the background. I disabled Google play Services unless needed. I use a package disabler to kill anything bloatware or other apps/services that cause trouble and aren't needed.
I never said it was easy... there's a steep learning curve.
Dependencies; disabling a parent app/service can have far reaching consequences, good or bad. Try to understand what you are disabling.
Acquire or use the already loaded the tools you need to help find the trouble makers... play with it.

Definitely ****ty software, battery backup is much better on AOSP-based ROMs.