Anyone know if the exynos version would work on verizon? I assume that that it would but the 1x and 3g would not. lol, i would be ok with that if i also go root and TWRP.
My follow up question is where could we order it? It would be nice to get it right from samsung, but i don't see that option.
I have the same question
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i think this is the place to buy it. Since they will open it up and use one of their sims to make 5 minutes of calls before sending it to us, so it doesn't lock up once we get it.
Has anyone used 4g exclusively on verizon, what are the drawbacks?
I know where to buy it here in the US. I could actually buy it today. Just want to know if it will work on Verizon
Gigatopiloto said:
I know where to buy it here in the US. I could actually buy it today. Just want to know if it will work on Verizon
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I dont think you will be able to use it to make phone calls or msg because verizon use a CDMA network for this and the exynos version doesnt have this. Just my guess.
Samsung's soc never supports cdma (big Q owns the patents) so that's why the rest of the world who aren't on cdma gets the exynos versions
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Samsung's soc never supports cdma (big Q owns the patents) so that's why the rest of the world who aren't on cdma gets the exynos versions
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That's not true at all, my Galaxy Tab S2 is an Exynos and runs on Verizon LTE., and the galaxy S6 was an Exynos 7420 on Verizon.
Oh I stand corrected. I knew the tablets were supported but figured since you don't make calls from them, it wouldn't need cdma. In either case, unless it's made for Verizon, the exynos versions won't natively support Verizon.
The FCC filing shows it support the Verizon LTE bands, but no CDMA bands.
It would probably work for data but I am not sure if it would work for calls, unless they implement VOLTE on the international version for Verizon.
Guys it's best to wait for the North American unlocked version (Qualcomm chip) to become available in a couple of weeks or so.
It will definitely work on both Verizon and Sprint and their MVNOs.
I can see bhphotovideo taking preorders for it already, and the page is setup on bestbuy. This is the S8 version I'm gonna go for. Downside is it will cost you a little more, but it is worth it to me to know I can use it on all US carriers.
Edit: looks like bhphoto added the model numbers for their preorders as "SM-G950F" and "SM-G955F", which is the same as the European/global GSM version. So that is Exynos chipset powered, and it's a no go for CDMA guys.
The plus on this model is it gets the software updates more quickly than the US unlocked model. (This is still speculation based on Samsung not updating SM-G930U to Android 7 for months while the SM-G930F and the US carrier models already received their updates.)
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Commodore 64 said:
Guys it's best to wait for the North American unlocked version (Qualcomm chip) to become available in a couple of weeks or so.
It will definitely work on both Verizon and Sprint and their MVNOs.
I can see bhphotovideo taking preorders for it already, and the page is setup on bestbuy. This is the S8 version I'm gonna go for. Downside is it will cost you a little more, but it is worth it to me to know I can use it on all US carriers.
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unlocked as in unlocked BOOTLOADER? Or just for use on any carrier?
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unlocked as in unlocked BOOTLOADER? Or just for use on any carrier?
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Unlocked as in "unlocked for all carriers" (or "sim free" is what Samsung UK calls their SM-G95*F versions). But I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader is also unlocked.
My guess, even with the unlocked (unencrypted) bootloader, is once you flash a custom ROM/recovery it will still trip the Samsung Knox binary counter and void the warranty. This is just speculation based on Samsung's devices in the past. We have to wait until someone gets their hand on the US unlocked version.
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Unlocked as in "unlocked for all carriers" (or "sim free" is what Samsung UK calls their SM-G95*F versions). But I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader is also unlocked.
My guess, even with the unlocked (unencrypted) bootloader, is once you flash a custom ROM/recovery it will still trip the Samsung Knox binary counter and void the warranty. This is just speculation based on Samsung's devices in the past. We have to wait until someone gets their hand on the US unlocked version.
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Sim unlocked at best buy will be out may 9th priced at 725/825
i buy international versions all the time...
don't listen to all these people who just make things up but never used it.
supported bands according to this site just an example:
http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7922/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos
I have the exynos s7 i bought from B&H in US. on verizon CDMA won't connect, but if you are in a region with VOLTE and you don't travel within US, it should be fine.
all the international versions have much better support if you are on ATT/Tmobile where GSM is the "3g/crippled 4g" I left verizon for Tmobile just to get better support for Exynos.
now... i didn't check validity of the site above, but it gives u an idea. i just wanted to chime in.
Exynos has much better power management IMO. my wife's phone is S7 tmobile variant, and when i was using s7 Exynos, my battery life was BETTER AND i use the phone way more than her throughout the day.
going to, i actually bought s8 TMobile this time... just so i can use samsung pay... samsung pay will work if you modify the CSC and install spay/framework, but guess i'm getting old and getting lazy
exynos will likely get rooted FIRST, and the first root type will likely trip Knox, and without Knox, no samsung pay...
TLDR. Exynos will work on vzw but not all the bands. if you think it's too risky, don't get it.
2 upsides that actually matter IMO when it comes to Exynos versions.
1. less bloat, I say less, because Exynos versions come with all kinds of CSCs from all over the world. and depending on where it came from... you'll see it installing regional specific apps on your initial boot. 1 year i had a phone with Arab CSC and it installed bunch of apps made for Arabs... on another phone i had a UK CSC and it installed all kinds of UK news apps.
2. better battery
3. faster updates from sammobile
jucytec said:
i buy international versions all the time...
don't listen to all these people who just make things up but never used it.
supported bands according to this site just an example:
http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7922/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos
I have the exynos s7 i bought from B&H in US. on verizon CDMA won't connect, but if you are in a region with VOLTE and you don't travel within US, it should be fine.
all the international versions have much better support if you are on ATT/Tmobile where GSM is the "3g/crippled 4g" I left verizon for Tmobile just to get better support for Exynos.
now... i didn't check validity of the site above, but it gives u an idea. i just wanted to chime in.
Exynos has much better power management IMO. my wife's phone is S7 tmobile variant, and when i was using s7 Exynos, my battery life was BETTER AND i use the phone way more than her throughout the day.
going to, i actually bought s8 TMobile this time... just so i can use samsung pay... samsung pay will work if you modify the CSC and install spay/framework, but guess i'm getting old and getting lazy
exynos will likely get rooted FIRST, and the first root type will likely trip Knox, and without Knox, no samsung pay...
TLDR. Exynos will work on vzw but not all the bands. if you think it's too risky, don't get it.
2 upsides that actually matter IMO when it comes to Exynos versions.
1. less bloat, I say less, because Exynos versions come with all kinds of CSCs from all over the world. and depending on where it came from... you'll see it installing regional specific apps on your initial boot. 1 year i had a phone with Arab CSC and it installed bunch of apps made for Arabs... on another phone i had a UK CSC and it installed all kinds of UK news apps.
2. better battery
3. faster updates from sammobile
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Did you gloss over the fact that regular phone calls wont work on the international Exynos version using a Verizon sim?
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Did you gloss over the fact that regular phone calls wont work on the international Exynos version using a Verizon sim?
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yes... hence i said if you are in an area with VOLTE and you don't travel. that is the reason why i went tmobile.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...m-g950v-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8-sm-g950u/5341523
look at 2g/3g difference OP
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yes... hence i said if you are in an area with VOLTE and you don't travel. that is the reason why i went tmobile.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...m-g950v-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8-sm-g950u/5341523
look at 2g/3g difference OP
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I read it I just think its a dumb GSM phone for people that have a dumb CDMA phone provider. LTE only is not a solution Verizon people simply need Verizon phones. Just like Sprint people need Sprint phones. Getting international GSM phones for use on CDMA service providers is stupid. Thats one reason CDMA is crap compared to GSM. Unlocked phones like some apple and moto and rare samsung are the best solution. Best Buy will have the unlocked snapdragon available in 2 weeks for $725/$825
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Anyone know if the exynos version would work on verizon? I assume that that it would but the 1x and 3g would not. lol, i would be ok with that if i also go root and TWRP.
My follow up question is where could we order it? It would be nice to get it right from samsung, but i don't see that option.
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You dont need regular calls? You are going LTE only and hoping you dont miss any calls? If you are using hangouts for calls and don't need cellular phone calls then go get one. Ebay, amazon, they have them for sale, forget warranty unless you want a huge hassle.
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I read it I just think its a dumb GSM phone for people that have a dumb CDMA phone provider. LTE only is not a solution Verizon people simply need Verizon phones. Just like Sprint people need Sprint phones. Getting international GSM phones for use on CDMA service providers is stupid. Thats one reason CDMA is crap compared to GSM. Unlocked phones like some apple and moto and rare samsung are the best solution. Best Buy will have the unlocked snapdragon available in 2 weeks for $725/$825
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You dont need regular calls? You are going LTE only and hoping you dont miss any calls? If you are using hangouts for calls and don't need cellular phone calls then go get one. Ebay, amazon, they have them for sale, forget warranty unless you want a huge hassle.
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I understand everything. I was wondering who has done it in the past. Everyone in my company with the latest update from Verizon has seen their CDMA coverage disappear. Where they once had CDMA service, they now have none. Verizon seem to really be pushing the VoLTE. I've had phones where i have disabled all non 4g bands, because i didn't like it switching, and it actually worked better for me. The main reason i ask is because the international version has root and TWRP. Hopefully the US version will get root, but i don't think we'll every get an unlocked bootloader. The verizon version is already sim unlocked, so i'm not looking for more sim unlocked phones that don't have root.
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I understand everything. I was wondering who has done it in the past. Everyone in my company with the latest update from Verizon has seen their CDMA coverage disappear. Where they once had CDMA service, they now have none. Verizon seem to really be pushing the VoLTE. I've had phones where i have disabled all non 4g bands, because i didn't like it switching, and it actually worked better for me. The main reason i ask is because the international version has root and TWRP. Hopefully the US version will get root, but i don't think we'll every get an unlocked bootloader. The verizon version is already sim unlocked, so i'm not looking for more sim unlocked phones that don't have root.
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I undersrand now. Go exynos based on what you just mentioned
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I undersrand now. Go exynos based on what you just mentioned
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Thanks for your help and concern. haha, i still don't want to be the first. I'm going to see what happens here before i get too serious about getting it. The risk in waiting is that the current unlocked bootloader method for the exynos may get patched. idk
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If I buy the unlocked version from Samsung will I be able to use it on ATT and Verizon networks? Will there be a limitations on what LTE bands that the phone can use? Just trying to avoid the bloatware that carriers have on their phones. I have both before mentioned carriers. I really want the note 8 but if I can't use the unlocked version to its full potential. Then I guess I. Will go with the Verizon version. I have been waiting since they took back my note 7 and now I can hardly wait to fill the void lol.
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If I buy the unlocked version from Samsung will I be able to use it on ATT and Verizon networks? Will there be a limitations on what LTE bands that the phone can use? Just trying to avoid the bloatware that carriers have on their phones. I have both before mentioned carriers. I really want the note 8 but if I can't use the unlocked version to its full potential. Then I guess I. Will go with the Verizon version. I have been waiting since they took back my note 7 and now I can hardly wait to fill the void lol.
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I recently chatted with a Verizon representative regarding this very question. I asked two key questions.
"Does an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 8 work on Verizon networks?"
Essentially the person told me they needed the phone to determine weather or not it would work on the Verizon network; either the MSIN or IMSI number. My belief is there is, most likely, a better answer elsewhere.
"Does Verizon restrict any features on unlocked phone?"
The Verizon representative told me they don't restrict any features for unlocked phones.
I know this still doesn't answer the question you have. Just know that I, and others, also have the same question(s).
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I recently chatted with a Verizon representative regarding this very question. I asked two key questions.
"Does an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 8 work on Verizon networks?"
Essentially the person told me they needed the phone to determine weather or not it would work on the Verizon network; either the MSIN or IMSI number. My belief is there is, most likely, a better answer elsewhere.
"Does Verizon restrict any features on unlocked phone?"
The Verizon representative told me they don't restrict any features for unlocked phones.
I know this still doesn't answer the question you have. Just know that I, and others, also have the same question(s).
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Thanks for the reply on your conversation with a Verizon rep on this issue. I will keep my ears open and hope we all can find that answer.
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Thanks for the reply on your conversation with a Verizon rep on this issue. I will keep my ears open and hope we all can find that answer.
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This is from my chat transcript with Samsung technical support. Yes, an unlocked Note 8 will work with Verizon's network.
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Amit H: Hi, thank you for reaching out to Samsung Technical Support. How may I assist you?
Amit H: Please excuse us for the long hold. We have had an unusually high volume of chats coming in. I would be happy to assist you with any questions you have about our products.
You: If I order an unlocked Galaxy Note 8 phone, will it work on the Verizon network in North America?
You: no worries. I don't mind the wait.
Amit H: Yes, the Unlocked version of Note 8 phone will work with the Verizon.
You: perfect. Thank you!
Amit H: You are welcome.
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on AT&T , from experience, you lose wifi calling. thats about it.
I am interested to know if the unlocked is a DUAL SIM
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on AT&T , from experience, you lose wifi calling. thats about it.
I am interested to know if the unlocked is a DUAL SIM
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From all the spec pages i've looked at, YES the unlocked version has DUAL SIM.
where did you see the SPEC pages. does anyone know where the bands are listed - want to compare what the unlocked and AT&T versions have (or miss)
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on AT&T , from experience, you lose wifi calling. thats about it.
I am interested to know if the unlocked is a DUAL SIM
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I've also been told that you lose WiFi Calling with unlocked phones on Verizon's network as well. Can anyone confirm this? I know for a lot of people Wifi Calling doesn't matter much, but when cell service is spotty my LG V20 often switches over to WiFi for the duration of the call.
I don't think there are any other Verizon features I use other than WiFi Calling, and I'd hate to lose it. But I also hate all the Verizon bloatware.
Only lose wifi calling and any bloatware that the provider puts on them. That’s all. All the bands are there.
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i was not able to use video calling on my unlocked s7 edge on t mobile. i was able to use wifi calling though
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where did you see the SPEC pages. does anyone know where the bands are listed - want to compare what the unlocked and AT&T versions have (or miss)
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Here is one example from the BestBuy website.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-note8-64gb-unlocked-orchid-gray/6002607.p?skuId=6002607
Click on Specifications, then look under Compatibility.
Does the unlocked note 8 come with a unlockable bootloader?
Be interesting if you could actually get wifi calling to work. I definetly need it as service is spotty in certain places of my house. Have Verizon but I'm paying outright regardless so it'd be the same price.
What about updates? I know for the unlocked S7, the updates were actually slower than the carrier branded, which is actually kinda crazy.
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I jumped on the unlocked version; on T-Mobile. Now I'm wondering if I made the right decision.
I just pre-ordered the unlocked version through samsung's website. I will be using it with AT&T. I was going to order it through best buy but when i visited the samsung site they had the freebies ready to ship with the order as well.
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I just pre-ordered the unlocked version through samsung's website. I will be using it with AT&T. I was going to order it through best buy but when i visited the samsung site they had the freebies ready to ship with the order as well.
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Hi!
I'm thinking of doing same. Do you have exact model #? Also, when you say "unlocked" do you mean SIM unlocked or is it also "BOOTLOADER" unlocked, or both?
If you don't know, can you send link ?
TIA for your response.
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Hi!
I'm thinking of doing same. Do you have exact model #? Also, when you say "unlocked" do you mean SIM unlocked or is it also "BOOTLOADER" unlocked, or both?
If you don't know, can you send link ?
TIA for your response.
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I just preordered the unlocked version from Samsung.com as well. http://www.samsung.com/us/galaxy/note8/buy/ It was $960.00 for the Sprint version or $929.99 for Unlocked. I chatted online with customer service and they said the only difference with the Unlocked version was the lack of carrier apps (carrier bloat). Unlocked means Carrier/SIM Unlocked. Unless Samsung had a miraculous change of heart, the bootloader will be locked just like the Snapdragon Note 7, S7, & S8.
LouK said:
Hi!
I'm thinking of doing same. Do you have exact model #? Also, when you say "unlocked" do you mean SIM unlocked or is it also "BOOTLOADER" unlocked, or both?
If you don't know, can you send link ?
TIA for your response.
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He means sim unlocked.
There is no bootloader unlocked NA device.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
When I saw that the unlocked version worked on Verizon, I was surprised until I saw that the processor on the unlocked Note 8 is Qualcomm Snapdragon and not Exynos.
Hello,
Which Note 8 should I buy?
International Version
Unlocked Version
Sprint Version
I heard the processor for the International Version is best I think it stats with an E. Should I get that?
I would like to root.
Does it matter or should I just order one directly from Sprint?
Will this work with Sprint?
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Factory Unlocked Phone - 6.3" Screen - 64GB - Midnight Black (U.S. Warranty)
This one from Amazon?
Should I buy that one above from Amazon or buy it directly from Sprint?
Can I root both of them?
I would like to order one today, I just don't know if I should order from Sprint or Amazon.
P.S.
Also if this is not possible should I get a S8 or S8 Plus? However, reading over on their threads doesn't look like root is possible really there either, hit or miss. Is that true? Which S8 I should get? International or US?
I mainly want apps like:
Ad Block
YouTube Background Player
YouTube Ad Block
ETC...
Please Advise.
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable?
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
BlueFox721 said:
I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
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My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Torquemada288 said:
Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
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Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
AtlantaBB said:
My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
Oops...I forgot to mention that they may update more frequently or sooner
BlueFox721 said:
The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
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That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
AtlantaBB said:
That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
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Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
Agenesis said:
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
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Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
BlueFox721 said:
Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
AtlantaBB said:
Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
I am coming from Note 3 as well
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Oh my goodness, looks like my note 3 has two antennas and the newer phones have only 1. that is why i can do both. Why would they make the service worse?
https://community.sprint.com/t5/Buz...e-same-time-with-Sprint-s-Calling/ba-p/961338
The Note 8 wipes the Note 3 out
I just bought the unlocked Note 8 from best buy (N950U1WEW1AQH9). It is working fine on tmoble but i am not sure if it would work better if it had the Tmo rom.
I see from other threads that i can download and flash the Tmo rom from Sammobile.
The questions i have is:
1- Should i do this to get all the Tmobile benefits?
2- If i should, do i need root?
3- Will it void warranty?
4- How do i go back to original N950U1WEW1AQH9 if i flash Tmo Rom? (In other words - Where is best place to get original N950U1WEW1AQH9)
Thanks
Does anyone have any comment on this?
Ok my opinion I guess is better the unlock firmware because tmobile have a lot of bloatware so ... let see what other said about it .
I'm current have a tmobile note 8 and Thinking if is possible flash via Odin the unlock firmware
I would keep to motto "Don't fix it if it ain't broken". Does wifi calling works? do you use it? Hows the reception compared to previous phone? Anything else missing/ don't work like visual voice, if you even use it?
On the other hand, personally I don't see much T-mo bloat on my phone either, so probably doesn't matter much which FW you have .
Is the T-Mobile phone the same as the Unlocked? I thought the T-Mobile version was GSM only and the Unlocked would be GSM and CDMA.
Also should be able to flash just the missing parts instead of whole rom. Check the AT&T threads, some info in there.
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Since at least Galaxy S7? all US hardware is the same and the main reason we have Qualcom is that damn CDMA, otherwise it would be Exynos. Of course you need proper software to unlock right frequencies and protocols. I do not know if T-mo software has CDMA protocols, but OP is on T-mo so it's irrelevant.
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Since at least Galaxy S7? all US hardware is the same and the main reason we have Qualcom is that damn CDMA, otherwise it would be Exynos. Of course you need proper software to unlock right frequencies and protocols. I do not know if T-mo software has CDMA protocols, but OP is on T-mo so it's irrelevant.
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Wow, is that really true about CDMA and Qualcomm? Not doubting you but I wasn't aware.
Not much evident bloatware on the T Mobile version. Just a few silly apps I disabled.
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okrk said:
I just bought the unlocked Note 8 from best buy (N950U1WEW1AQH9). It is working fine on tmoble but i am not sure if it would work better if it had the Tmo rom.
I see from other threads that i can download and flash the Tmo rom from Sammobile.
The questions i have is:
1- Should i do this to get all the Tmobile benefits?
2- If i should, do i need root?
3- Will it void warranty?
4- How do i go back to original N950U1WEW1AQH9 if i flash Tmo Rom? (In other words - Where is best place to get original N950U1WEW1AQH9)
Thanks
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1/2. Don't need to, doesn't gain you any benefit. TMO puts their apps (e.g., Visual Voicemail) in Play.
3. Yes, but Samsung may not care.
4. Check the XDA news, Chainfire set up a site for this.
okrk said:
I just bought the unlocked Note 8 from best buy (N950U1WEW1AQH9). It is working fine on tmoble but i am not sure if it would work better if it had the Tmo rom.
I see from other threads that i can download and flash the Tmo rom from Sammobile.
The questions i have is:
1- Should i do this to get all the Tmobile benefits?
2- If i should, do i need root?
3- Will it void warranty?
4- How do i go back to original N950U1WEW1AQH9 if i flash Tmo Rom? (In other words - Where is best place to get original N950U1WEW1AQH9)
Thanks
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1. Devices are the same so trying out the T-Mobile firmware to see if you prefer it over the unlocked firmware is fine.
2. Root not needed to flash firmware.
3. Will not void warranty.
4. To go back to stock follow this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...covery-odin-recovery-software-t3671615/page22
I have flashed two different Sprint versions on my unlocked and have flashed back to Stock XAA unlocked, I like the download booster, and have not triggered Knox warranty flag. Choosing carrier firmware over unlocked firmware is personal preference, the best way to decide is to flash and try...just follow the guide...
Note:
*use regular Odin to flash from unlocked to carrier
*use Prince Comsy's Odin to flash from carrier to Stock unlocked XAA or carrier version of Stock unlocked (only the csc is different)
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1/2. Don't need to, doesn't gain you any benefit. TMO puts their apps (e.g., Visual Voicemail) in Play.
3. Yes, but Samsung may not care.
4. Check the XDA news, Chainfire set up a site for this.
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Waranty is not voided by flashing firmware, you are mistaken...only after custom like recovery and some rooting methods.
Chainfire is still working on cfauto root for our device. It will be awesome once it is uploaded to the website.
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Limeybastard said:
Wow, is that really true about CDMA and Qualcomm? Not doubting you but I wasn't aware.
Not much evident bloatware on the T Mobile version. Just a few silly apps I disabled.
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nuclearrage said:
Is the T-Mobile phone the same as the Unlocked? I thought the T-Mobile version was GSM only and the Unlocked would be GSM and CDMA.
Also should be able to flash just the missing parts instead of whole rom. Check the AT&T threads, some info in there.
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All Note 8's have same hardware except FDD bands used in Asian markets...these are not available on the unlocked version...for the U.S., hardware is identical for branded and unlocked versions...in other words, once unlocked by carrier, the T-Mobile version could be used on Sprint or Verizon or be used on ATT...
With T Mobile and CDMA I was referring to the USA Snapdragon devices in relation to why we don't get Exynos.
Someone mentioned that it's due to the use of CDMA technology that for example Verizon uses , is the reason we don't get official Exynos. Since Exynos is not CDMA compatible.
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BlueFox721 said:
All Note 8's have same hardware except FDD bands used in Asian markets...these are not available on the unlocked version...for the U.S., hardware is identical for branded and unlocked versions...in other words, once unlocked by carrier, the T-Mobile version could be used on Sprint or Verizon or be used on ATT...
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I think you meant that all North American Note 8's have the same hardware. Outside of North America and I think China, they are Exynos not Snapdragon CPUs.
As mentioned by others, the reason we got a Snapdragon version here is because their SoC has a built-in CDMA modem, and we have 2 main players still on CDMA in the USA, Verizon and Sprint. With the old Note 5 everyone got Exynos but they included a CDMA modem for at least the Verizon/Sprint models (not sure if the others had it). For the Note 8 I guess they decided not to try that again.
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I think you meant that all North American Note 8's have the same hardware. Outside of North America and I think China, they are Exynos not Snapdragon CPUs.
As mentioned by others, the reason we got a Snapdragon version here is because their SoC has a built-in CDMA modem, and we have 2 main players still on CDMA in the USA, Verizon and Sprint. With the old Note 5 everyone got Exynos but they included a CDMA modem for at least the Verizon/Sprint models (not sure if the others had it). For the Note 8 I guess they decided not to try that again.
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Yes the U.S. models is what I meant for the snaps...not exynos...guess I could have specified that...lol
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Limeybastard said:
With T Mobile and CDMA I was referring to the USA Snapdragon devices in relation to why we don't get Exynos.
Someone mentioned that it's due to the use of CDMA technology that for example Verizon uses , is the reason we don't get official Exynos. Since Exynos is not CDMA compatible.
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Right... the exynos supposedly had compatibility issues with cdma technologies even though some state that it was compatible before...I think cdma is being phased out eventually...just an opinion though
Kalm_Traveler said:
I think you meant that all North American Note 8's have the same hardware. Outside of North America and I think China, they are Exynos not Snapdragon CPUs.
As mentioned by others, the reason we got a Snapdragon version here is because their SoC has a built-in CDMA modem, and we have 2 main players still on CDMA in the USA, Verizon and Sprint. With the old Note 5 everyone got Exynos but they included a CDMA modem for at least the Verizon/Sprint models (not sure if the others had it). For the Note 8 I guess they decided not to try that again.
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate it. I dont think thr UK got the note 5. But thats probably just a marketing thing with Samsung.
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Licensing issues prevent cdma on exynos...according to this article
https://www.google.com/amp/www.andr...ng-selling-exynos-chips-companies-759678/amp/
BlueFox721 said:
Licensing issues prevent cdma on exynos...according to this article
https://www.google.com/amp/www.andr...ng-selling-exynos-chips-companies-759678/amp/
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So in essence, the cuprits are Sprint and Verizon.[emoji38]
It should get interesting should T Mobile merge with Sprint. They'll probably dismantle the CDMA network leaving Verizon with the nonly obsolete network in NA
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Limeybastard said:
So in essence, the cuprits are Sprint and Verizon.[emoji38]
It should get interesting should T Mobile merge with Sprint. They'll probably dismantle the CDMA network leaving Verizon with the nonly obsolete network in NA
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That's what I was thinking
BlueFox721 said:
Licensing issues prevent cdma on exynos...according to this article
https://www.google.com/amp/www.andr...ng-selling-exynos-chips-companies-759678/amp/
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That stuff is deep.
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Hello Friends,
Firstly, forgive me if these questions have been asked 100 times. I see a lot of chat about the TMO version but not ATT. Here we go, recently I ordered and received the Unlocked SM-N960F/DS 512GB with Exynos SOC and the phone was absolutely awesome but slow as hell. Unfortunately, I could barely get a reliable signal on AT&T in my city and of course because of the international origin of the phone, none of the carrier features were available like VOLTE, WiFi Calling, HD calling etc. Since then, I’ve returned the phone for a full refund. I am still dead set on purchasing another Note 9 but for the past several days I’ve been wrecking my brain trying to figure which firmware version to get. I am trying with all my might not to buy the locked ATT version SM-N960UZBFATT. Is the unlocked SM-960U version still capable of 4G LTE, VOLTE, WiFi calling, etc? I was also possibly looking at the SM-N9600 but I realize that’s just an unlocked international version with the snapdragon SOC. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. I really want to make a decision by Black Friday!Thanks!
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First of all, had you kept your N960F/DS, this mod would have helped you to get all the carrier features working. This mod supposedly work on N9600 as well but judging from the smaller number of dev threads regarding N9600 I'm not sure it'll be a better deal. You should always check for LTE signals on your previous device, taking note the signal strength and which bands it connect to, and check the new device's spec sheet and see if it support the bands.
I really liked that phone so this news is a definite blow! I have a OnePlus 5T that I am currently using until I decide what to do next. Is there an app that would allow me to see which LTE bands I'm connected to so I can make a comparison? I was leaning towards not having to root the phone or unlock the BL so that I could maintain Samsung Pay, Secured Folder, OTA etc. I looked at the link and I've been flashing for years but all the firmware numbers and instructions looked mind boggling to me. Don't want to screw up $1000 phone! Thanks for your input
kgptzac said:
First of all, had you kept your N960F/DS, this mod would have helped you to get all the carrier features working. This mod supposedly work on N9600 as well but judging from the smaller number of dev threads regarding N9600 I'm not sure it'll be a better deal. You should always check for LTE signals on your previous device, taking note the signal strength and which bands it connect to, and check the new device's spec sheet and see if it support the bands.
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dcscorpio76 said:
I really liked that phone so this news is a definite blow! I have a OnePlus 5T that I am currently using until I decide what to do next. Is there an app that would allow me to see which LTE bands I'm connected to so I can make a comparison? I was leaning towards not having to root the phone or unlock the BL so that I could maintain Samsung Pay, Secured Folder, OTA etc. I looked at the link and I've been flashing for years but all the firmware numbers and instructions looked mind boggling to me. Don't want to screw up $1000 phone! Thanks for your input
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If you don't need root and just want everything to work right, then you might as well get the variant used by your carrier (U.S. Snapdragon). Unless there was a specific reason for wanting a different variant like the Exynos model?
sefrcoko said:
If you don't need root and just want everything to work right, then you might as well get the variant used by your carrier (U.S. Snapdragon). Unless there was a specific reason for wanting a different variant like the Exynos model?
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I previously ordered the Exynos model because I read that the BL was unlockable and root was available. The Note 9 itself is amazing and after having the phone for a week, I realized that I actually didn’t mind Knox, Secure folder, OTA, and Samsung Pay. For the first time in many years I considered not rooting the phone. The issue I had with the Exynos was the very poor LTE signal and lack of carrier features I had on my OnePlus 5T like VOLTE, WiFi calling, etc on AT&T. The 4G signal was dismal at best and slow like 3G. That was a dealbreaker and enough for me to send the phone back. I know I want the Note 9, I just need the US version that’s optimized for AT&T I think but at the risk of locked BL. I’ve been eyeing the unlocked model that ends in FXAA but the BL is stilled locked but will be easier to sell when time to upgrade. I’ve also been debating purchasing the N9600 to keep my rooting options open in case I get that itch. I’ve always purchased unlocked phones that I could root and unlock the BL and I know the locked ATT version will never allow it. Earlier, there was a great suggestion made to use a mod that would introduce all of the carrier features to the unlocked models. My only issue with that is tripping Knox and losing the Security features of the phone along with the warranty and Samsung Pay so I’m really debating with what I should do.
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dcscorpio76 said:
I really liked that phone so this news is a definite blow! I have a OnePlus 5T that I am currently using until I decide what to do next. Is there an app that would allow me to see which LTE bands I'm connected to so I can make a comparison? I was leaning towards not having to root the phone or unlock the BL so that I could maintain Samsung Pay, Secured Folder, OTA etc. I looked at the link and I've been flashing for years but all the firmware numbers and instructions looked mind boggling to me. Don't want to screw up $1000 phone! Thanks for your input
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LTE DISCOVERY app
dcscorpio76 said:
I previously ordered the Exynos model because I read that the BL was unlockable and root was available. The Note 9 itself is amazing and after having the phone for a week, I realized that I actually didn’t mind Knox, Secure folder, OTA, and Samsung Pay. For the first time in many years I considered not rooting the phone. The issue I had with the Exynos was the very poor LTE signal and lack of carrier features I had on my OnePlus 5T like VOLTE, WiFi calling, etc on AT&T. The 4G signal was dismal at best and slow like 3G. That was a dealbreaker and enough for me to send the phone back. I know I want the Note 9, I just need the US version that’s optimized for AT&T I think but at the risk of locked BL. I’ve been eyeing the unlocked model that ends in FXAA but the BL is stilled locked but will be easier to sell when time to upgrade. I’ve also been debating purchasing the N9600 to keep my rooting options open in case I get that itch. I’ve always purchased unlocked phones that I could root and unlock the BL and I know the locked ATT version will never allow it. Earlier, there was a great suggestion made to use a mod that would introduce all of the carrier features to the unlocked models. My only issue with that is tripping Knox and losing the Security features of the phone along with the warranty and Samsung Pay so I’m really debating with what I should do.
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I have to say that i am surprised that you have bad network speeds on a. Unlocked model of the Note 9 in the states. I've been using the FD model for about two weeks now and haven't noticed a difference in streaming YouTube, Netflix, browsing Facebook, etc. There is only one spot on my fault train ride that I noticed i have slow speeds but it only last for about 20 seconds. Need to get a second device to see if it's the phone or the network. Other than that it's been great.
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daniel4653 said:
I have to say that i am surprised that you have bad network speeds on a. Unlocked model of the Note 9 in the states. I've been using the FD model for about two weeks now and haven't noticed a difference in streaming YouTube, Netflix, browsing Facebook, etc. There is only one spot on my fault train ride that I noticed i have slow speeds but it only last for about 20 seconds. Need to get a second device to see if it's the phone or the network. Other than that it's been great.
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Depends on the carrier...many are perfectly fine, but users reported issues with others (due to bands and carrier aggregation I believe).
I agree with this. It seems that TMO is best suited for this unlocked device in the states. Unfortunately I have AT&T and the network really seems to suffer if you're not using a branded AT&T phone. I was leaning on going with the US unlocked model and just pop my sim in to see if I can at least get LTE but like I stated, I'm usually a root and flash guy. I really see no reason for this on the Note 9 and that's saying a lot for me as just about every phone I've had over the last 10 years has been modified to some extent. Because of that, I thought I'd keep my options open for the N9600 since the BL can be unlocked but at least it has the Snapdragon. Then again my worry with that is the same that I experienced with the N960F/DS I just returned which was the extremely poor signal. I appreciate the conversations here. Please enlighten me!
OP. Any reason why you need a BL unlocked device?
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Initially I thought I'd root the phone and be able to modify some things to my liking as well as be able to use Vanced YouTube and a few other root apps I'm use to but like I said with my limited use of the phone I felt like it wasn't necessary. The carrier features are more important than the BL IMO so it's down to the US unlocked (FXAA) and the N9600 with Snapdragon but unlockable BL in case I ever get the itch for root. I hope I explained that craziness so you understand [emoji23]
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OP. Any reason why you need a BL unlocked device?
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I'm looking at getting a new phone from Verizon and I use the Skvalex call recording app to record all my company calls. Unfortunately the only way to use the good recording quality where it records both sides from the in/out on the routing table on any of the latest android OS fw is to have root kernel access. Can this phone currently be rooted with latest OTA from Verizon if I purchase this phone ?
If not, can someone point me in the direction of one of the phones Verizon sells (or one I can get at Best Buy/Amazon) at a reasonable price? It's been a long time since I rooted a phone as I have had the same Moto Z Force from Verizon for about 4 years now. Great phone just has issues with battery life after a year and data storage is not big enough.
Verizon is to my knowledge the worst company to buy from if you want to root a device.
then on top of that there's the (apparent) deal Samsung agreed with US carriers, no Samsung phones for the US and Canadian markets have unlockable bootloaders. only official Samsung firmware images can flashed. T-Mobile will let you unlock the bootloader when you've paid for the phone, AT&T too... Verizon never will!
I'd say buy an imported 4G version the SM-G780G seeing as 5G on Verizon is mmwave (only Samsung's made for Verizon even support that). but check with Verizon first if they'll let use it. I've heard some weird things about phones needing to approved to use on some carriers there.
3mel said:
Verizon is to my knowledge the worst company to buy from if you want to root a device.
then on top of that there's the (apparent) deal Samsung agreed with US carriers, no Samsung phones for the US and Canadian markets have unlockable bootloaders. only official Samsung firmware images can flashed. T-Mobile will let you unlock the bootloader when you've paid for the phone, AT&T too... Verizon never will!
I'd say buy an imported 4G version the SM-G780G seeing as 5G on Verizon is mmwave (only Samsung's made for Verizon even support that). but check with Verizon first if they'll let use it. I've heard some weird things about phones needing to approved to use on some carriers there.
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That really sucks. I always thought the non-branded / non carrier motorola phones could have their BL unlocked through motorola. I will look into the imported 4g version but I'm really wanting to take advantage of the 5g data speeds. I was just hoping for a root method to do some tweaking and unbloating to some of the files.
enettrek said:
That really sucks. I always thought the non-branded / non carrier motorola phones could have their BL unlocked through motorola. I will look into the imported 4g version but I'm really wanting to take advantage of the 5g data speeds. I was just hoping for a root method to do some tweaking and unbloating to some of the files.
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AFAIK Motorola phones can be unlocked, it's just Samsung that's doing this and most people think it's to keep the carriers happy.
Samsung has ants up their ass over competing with apple so they probably made this agreement as extra incentive to get picked up by more carriers. that's a guess though.
I'm leaning towards getting a pixel 6... direct from google. I'm not giving samsung any more of my money over them having their head so far up the carriers asses I can't tell where samsung ends and the carrier begins.