I had to use 3rd party messaging apps like Textra to be able to send GIFs, but now it seems that since the stock messaging app utilizes Live Messages by converting them into GIFs, we can now send GIFs in general without size limits. Can anyone confirm this? I would love to be able to take full advantage of Live Messages and sending random GIFs without size limits using just the native messaging app.
Lol that was the first thing I thought of as well during the conference
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Never occurred to me but it's rather cool if so...
djinn415 said:
I had to use 3rd party messaging apps like Textra to be able to send GIFs, but now it seems that since the stock messaging app utilizes Live Messages by converting them into GIFs, we can now send GIFs in general without size limits. Can anyone confirm this? I would love to be able to take full advantage of Live Messages and sending random GIFs without size limits using just the native messaging app.
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I just watched a Youtube video where the guy explained that with Live Message you can create a message by writing/drawing with the S-Pen and it converts it to a standardized GIF so any phone can see the animation. It's not like Textra where they have a dedicated link to grab GIFs and attach to your text.
Check this video out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XCLYtY6WjQ
i've been playing with Live Message on my Note FE with Hangouts; when done, i have to "share the GIF" as a picture versus sending right away to the person i'm texting. seems like a nice feature, not sure how often i would use it tho.
So now it looks like they updated their native messaging app able to send up to 10mb size on the Galaxy s8 series, not sure about lower models. Unfortunately, when using third party keyboards on the native messaging app, the GIFs are still sent as a link unless you download and save them to your phone and send it as an attachment. This is will probably be the same for the Note 8 as well. Why cant they just embed it like the rest? oh well....baby steps I guess. =/
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I had to use 3rd party messaging apps like Textra to be able to send GIFs, but now it seems that since the stock messaging app utilizes Live Messages by converting them into GIFs, we can now send GIFs in general without size limits. Can anyone confirm this? I would love to be able to take full advantage of Live Messages and sending random GIFs without size limits using just the native messaging app.
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This Sucks I got my Note 8 two days ago and you will have to us Textra or another app to send Live Messages. So my question is why include the feature that you can't use with downloading another app on the NOTE 8?
I have the unlocked version of the Note 8 and just sent a live message using the stock messaging app just fine.
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Tetra won't compress the image like stock will. In Textra I tried to make an image and it was 9mb, system wouldnt send. Used stock app and it compressed same image to 600kb and sent fine. Tetra or any other app needs to make that adjustment and it doesn't.
I have seen weird behavior with live messages and the stock messaging app. It will play an animation, but often it is truncated, and doesn't run at the proper speed when using the "share" function of live messages. I haven't tried saving them and sending it via an attachment or something else.
Likely something to do with the compression mentioned above I would think.
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This Sucks I got my Note 8 two days ago and you will have to us Textra or another app to send Live Messages. So my question is why include the feature that you can't use with downloading another app on the NOTE 8?
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I like textra but i cant send live messages on my note 8 with it. I had to use the stock app
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Tetra won't compress the image like stock will. In Textra I tried to make an image and it was 9mb, system wouldnt send. Used stock app and it compressed same image to 600kb and sent fine. Tetra or any other app needs to make that adjustment and it doesn't.
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Same thing here. Using the Note 8 app ports on my FE.
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I have seen weird behavior with live messages and the stock messaging app. It will play an animation, but often it is truncated, and doesn't run at the proper speed when using the "share" function of live messages. I haven't tried saving them and sending it via an attachment or something else.
Likely something to do with the compression mentioned above I would think.
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If your sending to anyone who doesn't have a Samsung device on the same carrier as you it compresses the hell out of the message..... Of you send to someone with a Samsung device on the same carrier it uses Samsung's "RCS" and doesn't compresses so like me and my dad send each other cool fully animated ones... But the ones I send to my fiance's iPhone get all pixelated and choppy.... But it's better than nothing. On my s8 any gif over 1mb would fail. Now it just compresses them for me. I'd rather have that than trying to find another app all the time.
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If your sending to anyone who doesn't have a Samsung device on the same carrier as you it compresses the hell out of the message..... Of you send to someone with a Samsung device on the same carrier it uses Samsung's "RCS" and doesn't compresses so like me and my dad send each other cool fully animated ones... But the ones I send to my fiance's iPhone get all pixelated and choppy.... But it's better than nothing. On my s8 any gif over 1mb would fail. Now it just compresses them for me. I'd rather have that than trying to find another app all the time.
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Can't you go into settings, and change image size from best available to original? So the images will not be compressed.
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I read that if you change the MMS setting in Textra from System to Legacy Live Messages will send. Lots of positive feedback too but it does not work for me on my AT&T N8. Works fine in stock message app and people who received the GIF say it looks fine. They are all iPhone users. I prefer to use Textra. Gifs also send in Yappy SMS app.
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Can't you go into settings, and change image size from best available to original? So the images will not be compressed.
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Those settings are only for "chat" meaning other ppl with a Samsung phone on the same carrier as you if I'm not mistaken. Because mine is on original and it's the same outcome as I stated before.
I was able to attach the Live Message GIF to Textra once already in the app, then sending to my wife and daughter who also use Textra was fine. Once or twice it came back as failed, but after a retry, it sent. But I really hate that the native messaging app doesn't allow for adding random animated GIFs like it does in Textra.
While I have only used Live Messages on Twitter (actual tweets, not direct messages), and know it can be accessed from the stock Samsung keyboard (which I hate) and Air Command, I believe they can only be sent in apps that allow animated GIF files to be sent. Most likely, with Samsung's stock messaging app, they probably are being sent as MMS messages, unless there's that extended SMS technology (I forgot the actual name), but I'm not sure if that's true because I don't think the carrier I'm on supports that.
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But I really hate that the native messaging app doesn't allow for adding random animated GIFs like it does in Textra.
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I think Gboard can do that through its blue suggestions, but can't really remember because I have that disabled, and I doubt the Samsung keyboard supports that. Even then, I don't like the stock Samsung touch keyboard, for similar reasons to why i have a "stock Android" theme applied on mine.
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Does windows phone OS support group texting? Mostly concerned with iPhone users sending a group text to me and I want to reply all back and keep a single thread of chat/text going between the other users.
Currently the best option on Android is using GOsmspro or handcent and enabling group MMS threading. Problem is this is TERRIBLY slow even on my S3 because it has to convert each message to MMS and send and upon receiving a reply back from any party member it is received as MMS and then converted and then placed into the group thread. Extremely laggy if multiple texts are sent at in a short amount of time. Just wondering how Windows Phone 7 or 8 might handle this. It's making me really consider going back to iPhone since I like to keep tabs on my bro n sis via this group texting.
I am using groupme at the moment but it's a third party system and only supports sms if using the sms push, or else MMS via 3rd party app, which requires each sender to have the app and use this separate app to communicate.
Yes, Windows Phone 7 already supports this. It works via MMS on all platforms, but that's transparent when it's built in. The WP7 implementation is pretty good; I can't imagine they'd drop it in WP8.
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Yes, Windows Phone 7 already supports this. It works via MMS on all platforms, but that's transparent when it's built in. The WP7 implementation is pretty good; I can't imagine they'd drop it in WP8.
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Thank you. Is it pretty seemless? As in sending and receiving is pretty smooth as if sending an sms to a single user? I assume that's what you mean as in it's transparent. If so, this is great news.
Most of my family have iPhone and use group message. Was using gosms but it slow like the OP said. I use wp7 for 2 weeks and their group message is fast. I return wp7 and will wait for wp8.
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By transparent, I mean you don't really notice the difference between SMS and MMS when there's no image attached, since in Windows Phone the UI is identical - they're both messages in the same messaging app. But any "group text" is a MMS rather than an SMS, as far as how it's sent on the back end. It is very seamless - Microsoft's Messaging app handles both types of messages very well.
You'll see a message to/from some number of recipients with the individual recipients listed as screen space allows (you can tap to pop up the full list if it runs off the edge of the screen), and on each incoming message, the sender is listed near the timestamp so you can tell who sent it. Everything in that conversation, from any of the recipients, shows up in the same conversation thread no matter how many people you're texting. When you create a new text, you can add multiple recipients just like you would for an e-mail, etc.
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By transparent, I mean you don't really notice the difference between SMS and MMS when there's no image attached, since in Windows Phone the UI is identical - they're both messages in the same messaging app. But any "group text" is a MMS rather than an SMS, as far as how it's sent on the back end. It is very seamless - Microsoft's Messaging app handles both types of messages very well.
You'll see a message to/from some number of recipients with the individual recipients listed as screen space allows (you can tap to pop up the full list if it runs off the edge of the screen), and on each incoming message, the sender is listed near the timestamp so you can tell who sent it. Everything in that conversation, from any of the recipients, shows up in the same conversation thread no matter how many people you're texting. When you create a new text, you can add multiple recipients just like you would for an e-mail, etc.
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I've been having trouble getting this to work. The group text I was a part of on my iPhone isn't coming through on my Lumia 920 at all. iMessage is stuck authorizing my phone number, so that may be a part of it, but as of yet I haven't found out what the issue is. Anyone else having this issue?
Apple has never been big on interoperability, but you can easily do group texts natively without worrying about iMessage.
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I've been having trouble getting this to work. The group text I was a part of on my iPhone isn't coming through on my Lumia 920 at all. iMessage is stuck authorizing my phone number, so that may be a part of it, but as of yet I haven't found out what the issue is. Anyone else having this issue?
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You will have to turn off iMessage on your iPhone. You probably don't have your iPhone anymore, but what needs to happen is to unlink your phone number from iMessage. Did you do that? If not I think you can unregister your phone here:
http://holgr.com/blog/2011/12/howto-deactivating-imessage-on-lost-or-sold-iphones/
Also turn on group chat in your messaging settings. I saw this while messing with a WP8 in store.
I'm not sure if this is a moto X specific thing, but I've not had this problem on my previous phones.
So I noticed when I send a MMS to a friend (i'm on t-mobile , he's also on t-mobile with an htc one though i'm doubing that matter) he says it will say the image is too big and can't be sent or something like that. or that it can't be received.
I google about this a bit, and i saw a little bit of talk of it being a bug in the phone, and that you can't send MMS when on wifi but it would work when not on wifi (not sure how that makes any sense either). I saw some other posts about how if you send a message attached via gmail THEN send an MMS then MMS would start working , which also makes no sense to me as that seems so unrelated.
So previous to this phone i had a droid razr m (was on verizon before and even unlocked it for t-mobile for a bit) and i remember on that phone, when i sent an mms, sometimes the phone would say somethign like "this image will be resized before sending". the moto X never says that so is that a bug in the moto x? since i know that is an MMS size limit, but this phone never seems to prompt to resize.
anyway has anyone else had this issue?
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I'm not sure if this is a moto X specific thing, but I've not had this problem on my previous phones.
So I noticed when I send a MMS to a friend (i'm on t-mobile , he's also on t-mobile with an htc one though i'm doubing that matter) he says it will say the image is too big and can't be sent or something like that. or that it can't be received.
I google about this a bit, and i saw a little bit of talk of it being a bug in the phone, and that you can't send MMS when on wifi but it would work when not on wifi (not sure how that makes any sense either). I saw some other posts about how if you send a message attached via gmail THEN send an MMS then MMS would start working , which also makes no sense to me as that seems so unrelated.
So previous to this phone i had a droid razr m (was on verizon before and even unlocked it for t-mobile for a bit) and i remember on that phone, when i sent an mms, sometimes the phone would say somethign like "this image will be resized before sending". the moto X never says that so is that a bug in the moto x? since i know that is an MMS size limit, but this phone never seems to prompt to resize.
anyway has anyone else had this issue?
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YES, I have the same issue as well! Finally I found someone else that has the same problem as me haha.
When I first got my Moto X it worked just fine but recently I tried sending pictures to friends who also have T-Mobile and they all say that they can't see the picture because it says it is "too big", so along the same lines as the problem that you're having.
I going to call T-Mobile tomorrow and see if its maybe something on their side because when I check the details of the picture/message I sent, the size of the picture is under 1000KB (1000KB = 1MB which is the limit for sending MMS through T-Mobile, anything over 1MB gets stopped on their network).
Quick update:
I called T-Mobile an a representative told me that there were two ways of sending an MMS, specifically a picture, with the Moto X:
1. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Pictures. Then you select a picture from your gallery
2. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Capture Picture.
With the representative on the line, we tried both ways and figured out that option 1. works while 2. does not.
The conclusion that we came to is that if you capture a picture immediately, then it takes a full size picture and DOES NOT re-size it for MMS at all. HOWEVER, if you take a picture beforehand and then add it to a message from the gallery, it DOES re-size it.
I plan to call Motorola tomorrow and tell them about this issue so that hopefully they can either send out a fix or add it to an overall OTA update.
Hopefully I can contribute something to this forum haha :laugh:
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Quick update:
I called T-Mobile an a representative told me that there were two ways of sending an MMS, specifically a picture, with the Moto X:
1. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Pictures. Then you select a picture from your gallery
2. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Capture Picture.
With the representative on the line, we tried both ways and figured out that option 1. works while 2. does not.
The conclusion that we came to is that if you capture a picture immediately, then it takes a full size picture and DOES NOT re-size it for MMS at all. HOWEVER, if you take a picture beforehand and then add it to a message from the gallery, it DOES re-size it.
I plan to call Motorola tomorrow and tell them about this issue so that hopefully they can either send out a fix or add it to an overall OTA update.
Hopefully I can contribute something to this forum haha :laugh:
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If I may ask..what r u using to msg? Stock message app.. Or something else?
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If I may ask..what r u using to msg? Stock message app.. Or something else?
Slapped my Moto
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Same issue here. I am using the stock messaging app. I am on Verizon and am having trouble sending to T-Mobile. Haven't tried to other Verizon phones yet. I tried it over hangouts and had no issues, but then again Hangouts is using wifi.. Please let me know if you guys figure this one out!
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Same issue here. I am using the stock messaging app. I am on Verizon and am having trouble sending to T-Mobile. Haven't tried to other Verizon phones yet. I tried it over hangouts and had no issues, but then again Hangouts is using wifi.. Please let me know if you guys figure this one out!
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I use handcent and don't have an issue.. I like the app 1000% better than stock...try it out... See if it ur phone or just the stock app.
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I use handcent and don't have an issue.. I like the app 1000% better than stock...try it out... See if it ur phone or just the stock app.
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Eh, I've tried that and GO sms app and multiple other ones back when I had a Samsung Mesmerize. Maybe that's why I grew favor to the stock AOSP app compared to the Samsung and other third party apps. O well.
Quick troubleshooting update: Ever since we got the update to Kit Kat and the introduction of using Hangouts to SMS, I've stayed with the stock app instead of Hangouts just because I like it better. However, I will switch to Hangouts just to see if I can send pictures successfully through that. Crossing my fingers this will work and will report back if anything improves
P.S. sorry for the long absence; I've been busy with school and haven't had time to post
Hey guys, I have come back baring good things.
So I've been using Hangouts for a couple of days and MMS and picture messaging works. I can send a picture to any T-Mobile number and they can download it and view it .
The only problem that I have experienced is that sometimes I get double-texts from a friend (but that can just be due to a faulty BlackBerry ;P).
Looks like Hangouts is the way to go for now
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Hey guys, I have come back baring good things.
So I've been using Hangouts for a couple of days and MMS and picture messaging works. I can send a picture to any T-Mobile number and they can download it and view it .
The only problem that I have experienced is that sometimes I get double-texts from a friend (but that can just be due to a faulty BlackBerry ;P).
Looks like Hangouts is the way to go for now
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I've read the same issue in another thread. and the 2 fixes you mentioned came up:
1. people saying using hangouts fixes the issue
2. People saying attaching to MMS works and capturing a photo doesn't.
It's a bug with the Kit-Kat AOSP messaging apk. Other phones have this issue as well. I'm assuming that Google removed the picture compression code in an effort to get people to use Hangouts for SMS/MMS as Hangouts will compress down the pic w/o notifying you.
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It's a bug with the Kit-Kat AOSP messaging apk. Other phones have this issue as well. I'm assuming that Google removed the picture compression code in an effort to get people to use Hangouts for SMS/MMS as Hangouts will compress down the pic w/o notifying you.
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same issue in Hangouts running the pre-installed and latest version. Also you need evidence to back that up if it's really a known bug and not a rumor.
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It's a bug with the Kit-Kat AOSP messaging apk. Other phones have this issue as well. I'm assuming that Google removed the picture compression code in an effort to get people to use Hangouts for SMS/MMS as Hangouts will compress down the pic w/o notifying you.
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If that is so, it would make sense and would make me mad at Google
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Just a quick update:
I've been using Hangouts for a quite a while now and have not had a problem since. I have nothing against Hangouts but I would like to have a dedicated MMS/SMS application because I don't really want Hangouts to be checking for messages ever so often.
I have unlimited MMS/SMS and no unlimited data anyways
Good day!!! I've noticed something odd with the S6 Edge here, at least on Verizon ... I can't send folks MMS images via 3rd party apps. I love the Verizon messaging app, but when I send an image/video via MMS? The other person sees a white box.. No image/video.. I've tried using many other apps.. Naturally the default Samsung app works fine.. and I think the Google messenger app works.. But, nothing else. What gives? I've reached out to support for Verizon and have gotten no reply.
My family's phones are on Verizon, and we are able to exchange images via MMS messages using the Verizon Message+ app from S6 Edge phones. Can't recall the last time I sent a video in such a manner, but I'm reasonably confident I would remember if it had not worked.
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My family's phones are on Verizon, and we are able to exchange images via MMS messages using the Verizon Message+ app from S6 Edge phones. Can't recall the last time I sent a video in such a manner, but I'm reasonably confident I would remember if it had not worked.
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It's so strange.. I just can't figure it out.. My phone will not send MMS on any messaging app other than the default one from Samsung. It's driving me insane!
I remember trying Message+ awhile ago and not liking it. Was thinking of giving it another try with this phone. Thoughts?
I use chomp. Lots of nice features.
I practically live on Message+ because I can receive and reply from my s8, iPhone 7+, iPad pro, and SurfaceBook. I've used Textra, Chomp, Messenger, tried all of them, but have always gone back to Message+.
I never tried messages+ but it has kind of a low rating and bad reviews on the Playstore. I use Textra, it's my favorite now but there are many to choose from.
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I liked Message+ for the most part with previous phones, but it got to be a battery hog for no apparent reason, slowed down my phone, etc. I've stayed away from it since. I'm not minding the Samsung Messaging app so far. I'm usually a Textra user, because it's so light. But I like the stock app for now.
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I practically live on Message+ because I can receive and reply from my s8, iPhone 7+, iPad pro, and SurfaceBook. I've used Textra, Chomp, Messenger, tried all of them, but have always gone back to Message+.
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With Message+ though, if you receive a msg, and you left your pc on at home, msg gets delivered and pops up on pc, it doesnt show as unread and I missed msgs that way, at least when I tried it awhile ago
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With Message+ though, if you receive a msg, and you left your pc on at home, msg gets delivered and pops up on pc, it doesnt show as unread and I missed msgs that way, at least when I tried it awhile ago
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Incoming messages should send alerts to all of your connected devices. I get notified at my primary phone, my remote devices, and my Huawei watch. If I acknowledge the notification on one device, it syncs across other devices. It's been that way for me for a while.
I use MySMS in conjunction with Rambox. It's awesome as it allows you to reply to text messages at work without using your phone.
Used to be huge fan of GoSMS Pro but too many stinking ads......I use paid version of Textra and love it.
I recently switched to Pulse and it is definitely my favorite SMS app so far. Native black theming and lots of different settings and options. It has the ability to use any device to text, but it's a monthly payment. Has the ability to do lifetime for 10$ though. I might do that here soon.
I like Message+ because of all the customization you can do. It is more than the stock Samsung or android messager. Also, Verizon keeps your texts so that if you reset your phone or switch phones you can download all your messages back.:good:
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I practically live on Message+ because I can receive and reply from my s8, iPhone 7+, iPad pro, and SurfaceBook. I've used Textra, Chomp, Messenger, tried all of them, but have always gone back to Message+.
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I agree 100%. Message + shows on all my devices & has tons of customization options. No need to use anything a
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One feature I'd like to have is send delay. Auto-correction can play havoc sometimes. It'd be useful if I have 3, 5 seconds to edit my text.
anyone else having problems sending MMS through Message+
Message + for me too. I normally use Textra myself but am liking the features of Message +.
Message + is getting annoying. I am trying to like it. I hate how it highlights certain words which make them difficult to edit. I realize it is to show emoticons but still.
Message + on galaxy s8... Has anyone experienced old messages being delivered to new recipients? I have noticed that I have about 3 copies of every message in a conversation. It also appears as if pictures were being sent to random groups of people. Which I'm sure some of you can imagine could be potentially embarrassing.
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Message + is getting annoying. I am trying to like it. I hate how it highlights certain words which make them difficult to edit. I realize it is to show emoticons but still.
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Couldn't you turn that off in Settings - Enable Smart Emojis?
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Couldn't you turn that off in Settings - Enable Smart Emojis?
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Yes. Thanks. I am currently trying out Textra.
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Yes. Thanks. I am currently trying out Textra.
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I like Textra a lot. Heck, I like them all, Chomp, Handcent, GoSMS, even Messenger. However, as I carry 4 phones and 3 tablets, plus desktops/laptops, I have to use one that can sync across multiple devices.
I would love to keep using Textra as my default message app, but it cannot send Live Messages on my Note 8 (AT&T). It errors out all the time. So I tried to change the MMS setting from "system" to "legacy" as some people have suggested. It also errors out while sending Live Messages.
So I switched back to the default message app, and it worked really quickly.
Does anyone have this issue with Textra sending Live Messages? Any more suggestions?
Thanks.
Gifs, live messages work just fine on T-Mobile. Its a carrier issue.
Reach out to your carrier and express your concerns.
Google messenger can receive gifs just fine, but may not work to send them.
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I would love to keep using Textra as my default message app, but it cannot send Live Messages on my Note 8 (AT&T). It errors out all the time. So I tried to change the MMS setting from "system" to "legacy" as some people have suggested. It also errors out while sending Live Messages.
So I switched back to the default message app, and it worked really quickly.
Does anyone have this issue with Textra sending Live Messages? Any more suggestions?
Thanks.
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I have had the same problem with Textra. It is a file size issue that I havent been able to figure out. It will send a regular live message (smaller) but wont send one with the popping, glowing words as they are bigger in size. I have tried switching the carrier limit, but that didnt work. As with you when I switch to the Samsung messaging app it sends fine.
Thanks for the replies.
Can't reach out to the carrier since the default app works fine.
But, as you all know that Textra is way better than the default app in every other way. So, it would be nice to have it working. I've submitted a help request to Textra, but I thought that I'd get help here faster, if there is one...
The carrier is the reason these MMS type messages work or not. They have to have the infrastructure in place to allow MMS (aka live messages AKA gifs AKA video messages )
T-Mobile have the backend to send and receive these types of messages. Other carriers dont yet have this functionality (or its not yet "turned on") which is why some people can send receive these and others can't.
I've had the problem with my unlocked Note 8 on Verizon. I can only get GIFs to work receiving (sending was always fine) by loading either Verizon's terrible Messages+ app, or using Textra and setting the MSS > MSS Behavior to Legacy, then rebooting. Called Samsung, they said it's a Verizon issue; called Verizon, they said they don't have any information on the Note 8's messaging to help with a fix. I call shenanigans, since Verizon needs to test a device before they allow it out into the wild on their network, but maybe that's just me being crazy.
So I observed something today on this issue. When I used the default app to send a live message, it compresses the crap out of it, and also reduced the background pixel dimension (original is 600X600, the sent version was 300X300). I also found that AT&T allows up to 1MB of MMS per send. So I checked the original file, and the size is about 5.7MB. I checked the one that was sent out by the default app, and it is at 326KB. That is a damn big difference!
From this, I am thinking that Textra's compression capability might not be as fast or good as the default app for this to work.
As a loyal Textra enthusiast, I would love answers too. Maybe Textra needs work on their end? Let's contact the developer.
Textra does not compress the live message like it can with other MMS pics. The standard app as stated above does compress heavily.
EE in the UK has a limit of either 100kb or 300kb (my MMS messages only send to 100kb!) therefore textra must do some compression but clearly it can't to the live messages.
So my take on this is Textra won't currently work unless they put in a fix to allow Live messages.
I've now switched to the samsung messaging app for the time being.
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PsiPhiDan said:
As a loyal Textra enthusiast, I would love answers too. Maybe Textra needs work on their end? Let's contact the developer.
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yup thats my take on the issue - its a textra problem
Hi Guys, I filed an issue with Textra. A member of their team contacted me and said that they will look into this next week.
I went into settings, MMS, and changed the file to carrier has no limit. Live messages send fine. On TMO.
Oyeve said:
I went into settings, MMS, and changed the file to carrier has no limit. Live messages send fine. On TMO.
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When you say that you changed the file to Carrier, what setting are you talking about? I dont have a setting in MMS called file.
Beianrui said:
When you say that you changed the file to Carrier, what setting are you talking about? I dont have a setting in MMS called file.
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I meant "file size".
Oyeve said:
I meant "file size".
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Gotcha!
I have tried playing with the file size on mine and even tried playing with the System and Legacy options along with the APN settings and it will just not send. Works just fine with the default messaging application but not with Textra.
I hate it too, I would so much rather use Textra.
Just wondering what phone company is everyone using that is having issues? Mine is AT&T
Mine is AT&T.
Their help website says that the MMS limit is 1MB, so that is where I have set mine.
I have managed to send one live message through Textra, but it was a super simple thing. Size must have been really small. Anyway, the app team will look at this next week.
Google's Messages app won't send Live Messages either. Am on T-Mobile.
Any updates from the devs?
Oyeve said:
I went into settings, MMS, and changed the file to carrier has no limit. Live messages send fine. On TMO.
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This worked perfectly for me, problem solved. Thanks man.
For those on TMO and using Textra, I've changed my MMS setting to no limit as well as to Legacy but Live Messages still not working. If I send Live Messages through Textra it appears to send but recipients still aren't receiving. I've tested with a few co-workers. So those of you on TMO that says it's working have you confirmed that they are actually being "received"?
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djlee0314 said:
For those on TMO and using Textra, I've changed my MMS setting to no limit as well as to Legacy but Live Messages still not working. If I send Live Messages through Textra it appears to send but recipients still aren't receiving. I've tested with a few co-workers. So those of you on TMO that says it's working have you confirmed that they are actually being "received"?
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I also forgot to mentioned that I've changed the Live Message to "standard" as well
I can send MMS messages on AT&T. Is there any fix?