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Multiport charger with sufficient output to quicly charge the Mate 8

Right now I have a 40W Anker 5-port USB charger which works rather well. That is: for current devices. Each output supplies enough juice to charge the connected device as fast as with it's supplied stock charger.
The Mate 8 however can draw 18W's of power to charge quickly. The Anker does not supply this much, even when only using a single port.
Has anybody seen (and tested/confirmed) a Mate 8 quickcharge-compatible multiport charger yet? I know that there already are some quick/fast charge models out there but I read in numerous reviews that the Mate 8 apparently needs it's own charger to reach the high loads/speeds.

Tested and confirmed that QC 2.0 chargers doesn't work well with out Mate8
Original charger is the best!

indeed, unbeatable 100 min charging time from 9-100%
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Yes buddy, it's unbeatable.
While checking on the voltages, I found that QC 3.0 chargers will work.fine with our mate 8. Hence I tested with one Aukey QC 3.0 certified multi charger and it's close enough but still 15min late then original Huawei charger

I've noticed that the huawei charger ramps up to 9 volts right away when charging and the QC 3.0 starts off a 5 volts. This is all at about 84% on the phone. What after market charger is this aggressive that I can purchase in the US??
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tdamocles said:
I've noticed that the huawei charger ramps up to 9 volts right away when charging and the QC 3.0 starts off a 5 volts. This is all at about 84% on the phone. What after market charger is this aggressive that I can purchase in the US??
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To experience full charging speed, you have to find chargers that support Huawei's Fast Charging Protocal (FCP). Merely having a charger that can output 9V2A is not enough. Chargers that support FCP will also be compatible with Qualcomm quickcharge, but not necessarily vise versa.

Which FAST charger I should order for my new Huawei P9

Hi to all
Just ordered a new EVA-AL00 from eBay last night. I am living in Canada. May I know which charger I should order to take advantage of the quick charging capability of the P9 ?
Is P9 using QC 2.0 or 3.0 ?
Please kindly advise ASAP.

gomcse2002 said:
Hi to all
Just ordered a new EVA-AL00 from eBay last night. I am living in Canada. May I know which charger I should order to take advantage of the quick charging capability of the P9 ?
Is P9 using QC 2.0 or 3.0 ?
Please kindly advise ASAP.
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P9 doesn't support fast charging
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Akhayev said:
P9 doesn't support fast charging
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HI
wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working

anyone who can provide a link to where i can buy one with an eu plug?

I'm considering buying this phone over the S7 (although still undecided) and I still don't get the battery thing (charging or battery life, I get people telling me all sorts of contradictory things that I'm having a hard time to fact check). That 9V/2A charger doesn't come with the phone, right? How much faster is that Huawei charger compared with the 5V that comes with the phone and what is it called since I can't find it on their site or anywhere? Is that the Mate 8 charger?

Yes it's mate 8 charger
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raber111 said:
Yes it's mate 8 charger
Отправлено с моего EVA-L09 через Tapatalk
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Cheers! :good:

scedric57 said:
HI
wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working
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Awesome! I need an Australian version of this, what do i search for; is it just a mate 8 charger?

Well, no EU plug still available. But it will be later I think. It is not QC 2 or 3, it won't work. Search for "Huawei 9V 2A Charger".
The result should be like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-9V...hash=item280f7d97a4:m:mNQwKZr7I5KHReS9CA2RwkA
As I metioned, no EU plug yet, so via adapter only.

Milamber said:
Awesome! I need an Australian version of this, what do i search for; is it just a mate 8 charger?
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Perhaps this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ori...-2A-FAST-AC-Wall-Travel-Charger-/351744631869 (NB I haven't tried it)

tnhh said:
Perhaps this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ori...-2A-FAST-AC-Wall-Travel-Charger-/351744631869 (NB I haven't tried it)
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Perfect, he had 3 and I nailed 2 of them
Hopefully these will quick charge.

Please post results!

The photo shows it is 5V 2A charger, so it is a standart, not a Huawei Quick Charge (9V 2A).

scedric57 said:
HI
wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working
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Just a quick question, what's the charging time with that charger? Does it go below the 2 hours for a full charge?

Kutusov said:
Just a quick question, what's the charging time with that charger? Does it go below the 2 hours for a full charge?
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hi i never look before
i just charge now at 21h59 and 46% i will post the result at 100%
Edit: 100% at 23h02 ( 54% in 1h00 approximatly) but when i have the time i will try a full charge because the fast charge is more active at the start and midle of charging

With this Aukey charger I got from 5 to 95% in about 90 minutes

ladxxdal said:
With this Aukey charger I got from 5 to 95% in about 90 minutes
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Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery

scedric57 said:
Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery
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to be confirmed

scedric57 said:
Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery
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It's fine, it will charge as a standard charger at 5V. I would have to brush up my Ohm's law but I don't even get why Huawei's standard charger on the P9 has 2 Amp electric current value. What matters is the voltage going into the battery and you don't need a 2 Amp charger to give you 5 volts, a regular 1amp will be able to do that. The only difference I know is that 5V at 1 amp are 5 watts and 5V at 2 amps are 10 W. But that has only to do with resistance, I think, a battery isn't fed on watts?
I'm really on the fence about this fast charging thing now. I never got it. Qualcomm's has its QC 2.0 tech but a Motorola charger is faster than any other. An S7 Edge with amuch bigger battery charges as fast as an HTC 10 and the Edge has a 2.0 QC and the HTC is 3.0. The G5 is also 3.0 and charges way faster than the HTC, even compensating for the different battery capacity. And I own a G2 which has no fast charging at all and will charge from 0 to 100% in less than 2 hours on a 5V generic charger, which isn't very far off the times I see with 3000mah batteries and Quick Charge 2.0 or 3.0... Why these differences?? No idea... Somehow I think battery chemistry has a lot to do with it (it does in the RC and electronic cigarette world) but I never see anyone addressing that.
^^^^sorry for the rambling, just thinking/writing out loud

Kutusov said:
It's fine, it will charge as a standard charger at 5V. I would have to brush up my Ohm's law but I don't even get why Huawei's standard charger on the P9 has 2 Amp electric current value. What matters is the voltage going into the battery and you don't need a 2 Amp charger to give you 5 volts, a regular 1amp will be able to do that. The only difference I know is that 5V at 1 amp are 5 watts and 5V at 2 amps are 10 W. But that has only to do with resistance, I think, a battery isn't fed on watts?
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Nearly right! A little analogy may help... Think of Voltage (V) as the diameter of the water tap, Ampage (A) as the speed of the water through the tap and Wattage (W) as how quick you want the bath the taps are filling!
So you can see, a small diameter tap but high water speed will still not fill bath very quickly, neither will a big diameter tap and slow water speed...you need both together. So 9V2A should charge quicker than 5V2A (18W compared to 10W).
As I understand it the P9 will accept charging at 9V and 2A (their Fast Charging) giving max 18W input so a 9V2A charger should give the best results (which is what the P8's fast charger is)...and what the qualcomm quick charge 2.0 (and 3.0) spec can provide. Now i'm not saying the P9 is a qualcomm quick charge phone, it's not, but my QC2.0 and 3.0 car chargers certainly charge my phone quicker than the included mains charger! So i suspect that the car chargers are providing 9V2A to the phone.
Whether this means any 9V2A charger would do......I don't know

Found replacement fast charger (UPDATE 8/10/16)

I took a chance for the fun of it and bought a 15 dollar (at the time of writing this) charger from newegg here and it works perfectly. This post took me about 5 minutes to write and i plugged my Mate 8 in a 43% and now it is at 54%. When it plugs in, it even gives me the Fast Charging notification and says so on the lock screen. Highly recommend it, for USA owners only or you will need a converter plug.

I think you need the original hauwei quick charger to get 9v2.4a "quick charge".
Im using a QC 2.0 which should do 9v2a, but do not get "quick charge" message, and using software, only see up to 1.7ah; however with the original charger; I get 2.6ah.
What I also noticed was the with the original charger its goes up to 2.6ah in bursts (from 1.4 to 2.6ah) and not constant, while the QC 2.0 have constant 1.7ah.
Not sure which is faster. Also some cables don't go above 500mah, and some cables do give "quick charge" message on original charger. Ordered USB voltage tester to test more.
Im also looking for source for cheap oem hauwei charger.

HUAWEI HW-059200CHQ with EU plug: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...L-Charger-adapter-for-Huawei/32668184405.html

Huawei charger with option for EU or US plug.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-9V-...hash=item2a6b21d483:m:mKEdY4PKIJdpJ0H_NQVZoCQ

As long it covers the signed agreement between Huawei (FCP) and Qualcomm QC2.0 to support both standards it should work with our mate 8. It must be a 9V2A , be careful some of those sold on AliExpress may have only one voltage of 5v1a and that won't do any fast charging.

ronnie72 said:
Huawei charger with option for EU or US plug.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-9V-...hash=item2a6b21d483:m:mKEdY4PKIJdpJ0H_NQVZoCQ
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Just got the EU version of this one in, can confirm it's identical to the one that came with my Mate 8 and does proper quick charging.

Amazon Good Replacement Quick Charger
this is compatible for the US..very fast charging..even more so than the original charger the Mate 8 came with..I went from 40% until 67% in just under 15 minutes

so i just got mate 8. as usually everyone need more than one charger. is it true that even a charger with QC 2.0 will not charge our phone as fast as the original charger?
i dont have budget to buy $30 charger - will check ebay later.
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keyid said:
I think you need the original hauwei quick charger to get 9v2.4a "quick charge".
Im using a QC 2.0 which should do 9v2a, but do not get "quick charge" message, and using software, only see up to 1.7ah; however with the original charger; I get 2.6ah.
What I also noticed was the with the original charger its goes up to 2.6ah in bursts (from 1.4 to 2.6ah) and not constant, while the QC 2.0 have constant 1.7ah.
Not sure which is faster. Also some cables don't go above 500mah, and some cables do give "quick charge" message on original charger. Ordered USB voltage tester to test more.
Im also looking for source for cheap oem hauwei charger.
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this is copy pasted from someone else reply regarding my question of why QC 2 charger is slower than original huawei.
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They both have the same power QC 9V x 2A =18W or 12V x 1.5V =18W compared to Huawei 9V 2A =18 Watts
However for the Huawei Mate 8, the only charger that will give you 18W worth of charging power is the Huawei SmartPower charger. Anything else charges it at 10W maximum.
And the Huawei SmartPower charger can only charge other devices at 5V 2A = 10W as well. It only switches up to 9V when it sees a Huawei chip inside the other device.
So it's not 12V 1.5A being 0.5A less than 9V 2.0A - Power is Volts multiplied by Amps.
On that particular phone, if you use a Huawei charger you get 18W. If you use ANY non-Huawei charger, you get 10W.
If the battery capacity is 4000mAh at nominal 3.7V, and the charging circuit is 80% efficient then you need to chuck (4 x 3.7 / 0.8) = 18.5 Watts of power into it to charge it. An 18W charger will do that in just over an hour. A 10W charger will take 1.85 Hours which is almost double the time.
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Keep in mind that fast charging wears out the battery more than regular charging. If you have time, use a normal charger with lower current.

Bah, what doesnt wear out a lithium battery? Fast charge on, we can all get replacement batteries for this thing. theyre cheap anyway.

Dash Charge Oneplus 3 Charger & Cable on mi 8

Hi ! I had 2 charger for my Oneplus 3 and cable usb type -c ( I had 3 cable usb type-c ugreen too but no charger)
Can I use my Dash charger with my mi 8 ? I had buy a mi 8 and receive it tomorrow global version with EU charger but don't know wich charger it Qc 3.0 or 4.0 ? And with my oneplus Dash charge is 5v 4amp can work on mi 8 or do buy another charger ? Thank you

ggkameleon said:
Hi ! I had 2 charger for my Oneplus 3 and cable usb type -c ( I had 3 cable usb type-c ugreen too but no charger)
Can I use my Dash charger with my mi 8 ? I had buy a mi 8 and receive it tomorrow global version with EU charger but don't know wich charger it Qc 3.0 or 4.0 ? And with my oneplus Dash charge is 5v 4amp can work on mi 8 or do buy another charger ? Thank you
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it will charge at normal speed. I tried myself with original oneplus car dash charger, no fast charging for Mi8.

lockmunk said:
it will charge at normal speed. I tried myself with original oneplus car dash charger, no fast charging for Mi8.
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Ok thanks. I can use it no mistake but slow. I think buy a qc 3 or 4 it's good. For car I have too dash car and it's so good I loose it. I have car charger qc 2 or 3 I don't know.
Thanks

Rommco05 said:
DASH charger is good for OP, strange for others. Highly not recommended to use DASH on other devices than OP
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Why not?
It is a very good 5V charger, with Xiaomi you can expect up to 2A current, not more. Perfectly safe to charge anything, however not quickest charging option for others.

Rommco05 said:
RIP battery. Do u think it is good charging phone with no original charger? Especially with OP DASH
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Bull*hit....
Dash charging just doesnt work on mi8, normal charge will not cause any damage on any other phone or their battery.
you do not necessarily need a original charger from your phone manufacturer.
The phone negotiate how much power the battery gets not the charger ... the charger slows down the load balance to 2,4A (2,4A*5V=12W)
With a 2,4A output you'll reach ~12W at peak due to cable limitations you'll get 10w
QC 3.0 reach ~ 18 watt on peak with variable voltage and ampere steps. (3,6 - 20v)
Same on Dash Charge, Dash uses variable voltage and ampere steps like QC but doubles the charging lanes.
You can charge your phone with any charger you get, the worst you can get is slower charging speed.

tomsag said:
Why not?
It is a very good 5V charger, with Xiaomi you can expect up to 2A current, not more. .
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Bull****, the original MI 8 charge is QC 3.0 and I'm getting up to 3.3A on it.
It's very fast..
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Flash-User said:
Bull*hit....
Dash charging just doesnt work on mi8, normal charge will not cause any damage on any other phone or their battery.
you do not necessarily need a original charger from your phone manufacturer.
The phone negotiate how much power the battery gets not the charger ... the charger slows down the load balance to 2,4A (2,4A*5V=12W)
With a 2,4A output you'll reach ~12W at peak due to cable limitations you'll get 10w
QC 3.0 reach ~ 18 watt on peak with variable voltage and ampere steps. (3,6 - 20v)
Same on Dash Charge, Dash uses variable voltage and ampere steps like QC but doubles the charging lanes.
You can charge your phone with any charger you get, the worst you can get is slower charging speed.
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What he said.

Rommco05 said:
I see, probably u never heard about optimization, calibration and testing btw and that's isn't about fast or slow charging
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OKay its just your opinion but my opinion is you have no insight in electrical topics or the insight of such an charger.
optimization - the charger doesn't overcharge or use an overvoltage on your phone when its not support their specific fast charge technology it simply slow down to 5v - max. 2.4A, these charging speed will never cause any damage on your phone.
its just simple: an QC phone doesnt use the benefits of SuperCharge technology or Dash Charge and vize versa....
And trust me i've done more calibration and testing in USB charging topics and their different Charging tecnologys as you think (mobile batterys, chargers and so on).
I had several phones and several chargers and compared nearly all of them (QC, FastCharge, VOOC) and there is absolutely nothing dangerous to charge a phone with a QC charger if it is a supercharge phone.
But .... you ever can prove the contrary. I'll never stop learning but you have to tell me some facts.

33W Charger

Are there any other devices with the same power output? I have various Oneplus chargers, and a couple of Quick charge 3.0, but would like a spare fast charger.

MarkRobert said:
Are there any other devices with the same power output? I have various Oneplus chargers, and a couple of Quick charge 3.0, but would like a spare fast charger.
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You can buy the xiaomi 27W QC4 charger it does 27-35W

realme x2 pro has 50W, so something there shud fit

I've tried various chargers but the SOC was >85% so it wasn't a proper test. With most charger (QC or PD) I've gotten 15W, including with my 65W PD laptop charger. With the original charger I got 20-22W. If it's important to check the power, I can wait until it's discharged and redo the tests, which I plan to do anyway.
For travelling, I find it a lot more useful to have the 36W (18W QC + 18W PD?) cheap Amazon charger with 2xUSB-A and 1xUSB-C, which has the same size as the original charger: https://smile.amazon.de/gp/product/B07WFDTJFR/

Let us know how you get on. I tried my Samsung 25w charger, Pixel 3 charger and the Motorola 18w charger. All of them charge at 12-18w only. Stock charger goes to around 27w

I've now tried all the chargers and powerbanks that I have, QC3 or PD. All of them cap out at 16W, even though they can deliver more. I got the original one to charge with 30W (at 60% SOC).
The original charger is marked QC3 but they are probably not following the standard.

From my understanding the Snapdragon 732g has Quick Charge 4+ support doesn't it ?

manu1991 said:
Let us know how you get on. I tried my Samsung 25w charger, Pixel 3 charger and the Motorola 18w charger. All of them charge at 12-18w only. Stock charger goes to around 27w
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Yes, i've noticed the same. Around 27w max. Today i was charging my phone and observing the batt temperature. Kinda obvious, but the hotter the battery gets, the lower charging power it will deliver. Here in Brazil the temp this week is being around 36-42°C, so i put the phone over a bar of artificial ice. As the batt temp went under 35°C, the resultant "charging current" went to around 5500-6000mA. Doing the math, it was possible to arrive at the 27w result. (~4,5V x 6 = 27w).
When the batt temp was near 38~39°C, charging was down to 2000-2800mA (resulting to around 10-12w).
I also found something strange, it wasn't able to show the charging percentage with 2 decimals, as shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y8ja08uGEQ

Can someone give me a link for a u.s. charger for poco x3 device??

danieliswhattheycallme said:
Can someone give me a link for a u.s. charger for poco x3 device??
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maybe this?
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005001516773316.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.221f1870n5uSWW&algo_pvid=e82d72d7-5dac-413a-8e05-1657b2124e88&algo_expid=e82d72d7-5dac-413a-8e05-1657b2124e88-15&btsid=0b0a187916118446027031496e9a4e&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

For me GAN 65W chargers (Baseus) are good and universal quick chargers.
I have made a quick test in the thread Chargers and Charging speed