https://youtu.be/d8u0f7AaBgw
It's not a big difference, but I'm sure users would like to get what they're promised.
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Edit: Rated and typical capacities differ.
I saw this. A shame on OnePlus for sure. Add it to the list, along with cell provider compatibility (Verizon).
PS. Although I have pretty solid SOT, it's probably going back if I can't use it on Verizon reliably for business.
I noticed same with accuser battery app that the estimate is 3800. Maybe it's reserved/locked like a Tesla?
The rated capacity is 3880 while the typical capacity is 4000.
First the fake 3x optical zoom, now this
DonnntD said:
I saw this. A shame on OnePlus for sure. Add it to the list, along with cell provider compatibility (Verizon).
PS. Although I have pretty solid SOT, it's probably going back if I can't use it on Verizon reliably for business.
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What's your issue on Verizon? I've been on Verizon since launch without issues
So they owe us 20mAh... LOL ?
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So they owe us 20mAh... LOL ?
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Or 120 mAh... If you are using that thing called 'math'
For those who have not looked closely at the photos of the battery and/or don't understand the difference between rated and typical capacity:
The battery says Rated Capacity 3800mah AND Typical Capacity 4000mah... so Oneplus HAS NOT LIED at all, it does have a battery with a Typical Capacity of 4000mah.
The Rated Capacity is what you would get if you discharged the battery at 2+ Amps... A cell phone should never be pulling that much current .... If instead you drain the battery at a much lower rate (like 200ma or less) you will get a capacity of around 4000mah.
In other words: Don't accuse someone of lieing without making sure you know what you are talking about first.
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Or 120 mAh... If your using that thing called 'math'
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you're*
If you are using that thing called Proper English
galaxys said:
So they owe us 20mAh... LOL ?
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120mAh which is 3% of the advertised battery capacity and I don't remember any math class I ever took where I allowed to round up by 120 units and the answer still be valid. This isn't hard drive sales.
Edit: I'm wrong and now looking at the Galaxy S10+ and the Huawei P30 Pro all their "Advertised" capacitys are 100 mAh different from their "typical" or idea rating. It seems every flagship is doing this even though Oneplus is still cutting 20mAh extra compared to other manufacturers.
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For those who have not looked closely at the photos of the battery and/or don't understand the difference between rated and typical capacity:
The battery says Rated Capacity 3800mah AND Typical Capacity 4000mah... so Oneplus HAS NOT LIED at all, it does have a battery with a Typical Capacity of 4000mah.
The Rated Capacity is what you would get if you discharged the battery at 2+ Amps... A cell phone should never be pulling that much current .... If instead you drain the battery at a much lower rate (like 200ma or less) you will get a capacity of around 4000mah.
In other words: Don't accuse someone of lieing without making sure you know what you are talking about first.
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Well, that makes sense I suppose. Ifixit didn't exactly elaborate in the video, and they have a good enough reputation I think many would take what they said at face value. Like I did.
So, I will definitely scold the ifixit people for making such heinous accusations of lying next time I see them. Which is to say: I won't. And don't be a jerk.
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https://youtu.be/d8u0f7AaBgw
It's not a big difference, but I'm sure users would like to get what they're promised.
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I read that its 2.2x Optical Zoom and not 3x.
I smell a lawsuit.
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What's your issue on Verizon? I've been on Verizon since launch without issues
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Inbound calls from iphone x series users on Verizon are being immediately rejected (when HD Calling/Advanced Calling in enabled). It's a weird bug that they are supposedly working on.
Also, I was wrong about the capacity rating. I should have looked into it further.
could someone explain whats is meant by "Kernel profile" eg whats this profile for?
Related
simply WOW!
Before you continue, jump to post # 87 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10913484&postcount=87
so far so good, it's been almost the end of the work day and it's still on 74%
i'm going to run it a few more days, before i give my recommendations
also i'll reset the counter tonight midnight, and let it run a whole normal daily cycle to see how long it can last without recharging.
then repeat the process with the stock 1500 mAh battery
but just for reference, the stock battery by this time of the day, is already way down to 50% or less
sorry shaky hands
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open eBay website
then search for item 220683021453
[1850 mAh Extended Battery] Here are the pictures you've all been waiting for...
... old results, new ones will come on Monday, to capture the same info captured on the stock 1500 mAh test
[1500 mAh Stock Battery] Results are here
seems like the stock battery last slightly longer in a normal day routine than the extended battery, however by the same time in the morning the stock battery was already down to 63%
How significant is the additional bulge? lol PAUSE.
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How significant is the additional bulge? lol PAUSE.
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it's a perfect fit
no bulge at all
you'll see in the pictures that i'll be uploading later
So there's no replacement battery cover??!
I think I'm sold already lol
How much was it?
I will definitely get this if there is no battery cover change needed.
Link to the one you got, please?
WHERE DID YOU GET IT!
Link...Now!
Edit: caps=excitment
i posted the link on the other topic "confirmed: behold, batterry .... blah blah blah" topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876120
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i posted the link on the other topic "confirmed: behold, batterry .... blah blah blah" topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876120
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this one?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-Battery-1850mA...021453?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3361bbac8d
I hope this has more juice than the stock ones... normally anything the same size usually doesn't run any longer... heres to hoping it does!
There's been a lot of testing of aftermarket batteries... and they usually hold 70-80% of what they claim, so I'll be really surprised if this battery lasts any longer than the stock Samsung one. If it does, then that's great, I might pick one up, but I'm very skeptical... maybe a placebo effect?
The only way to really test is to get a voltmeter or do some controlled testing like video playback looping.
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There's been a lot of testing of aftermarket batteries... and they usually hold 70-80% of what they claim, so I'll be really surprised if this battery lasts any longer than the stock Samsung one. If it does, then that's great, I might pick one up, but I'm very skeptical... maybe a placebo effect?
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agreed, cant remember that site off the top of my head but it was pretty sad. However, if this battery indeed does better I would invest in one asap.
Better to risk $20 rather than $50 on Sedio's worthless 100 mah increase battery.
Picked up a set for myself. What is the correct way to cycle new batteries to give it the best performance ?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-Battery-1850mA...021453?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3361bbac8d
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Picked up a set for myself. What is the correct way to cycle new batteries to give it the best performance ?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-Battery-1850mA...021453?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3361bbac8d
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Search for some of the threads from the NS release day youll find plenty of different ideas and theories
Order mine today. How long did it take to come?
Believers b3ar fruit with their Nexus S.....
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Picked up a set for myself. What is the correct way to cycle new batteries to give it the best performance ?
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Lithium-ion is a low maintenance battery, an advantage that most other chemistries cannot claim. There is no memory and no scheduled cycling is required to prolong the battery's life.
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/is_lithium_ion_the_ideal_battery
There is only one way to charge lithium-based batteries. The so-called 'miracle chargers', which claim to restore and prolong batteries, do not exist for lithium chemistries. Neither does super-fast charging apply. Manufacturers of lithium-ion cells have very strict guidelines in charge procedures and the pack should be charged as per the manufacturers "typical" charge technique.
Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days.
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http://batteryuniversity.com/index.php/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Although lithium-ion is memory-free in terms of performance deterioration, batteries with fuel gauges exhibit what engineers refer to as "digital memory". Here is the reason: Short discharges with subsequent recharges do not provide the periodic calibration needed to synchronize the fuel gauge with the battery's state-of-charge. A deliberate full discharge and recharge every 30 charges corrects this problem.
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That's what I thought. Thanks for clearing that up. You were very helpful
So that eBay link will for sure work?
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So that eBay link will for sure work?
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I hope so. I just ordered.
Here's hoping that all of our Nexuses don't explode...
I originally was very excited about the N5, especially when it was supposed to be smaller than the N4 (which was already borderline - I would say 132mm h is the max)
But with this being another stupid brick, there is ZERO appeal - especially with such a small battery.
STUPID google!
17 hour talk time isn't anything to complain about.
cool story bro
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17 hour talk time isn't anything to complain about.
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Really? It's pretty ****ty, given that the equally sized G2 gets almost 24 hours?
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Really? It's pretty ****ty, given that the equally sized G2 gets almost 24 hours?
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3000mAh =/= 2300 mAh
thats what he's saying, they should have put in a 3000mAh then.
with such a small storage, does anyone know if its supports USB OTG? cus right now thats probably the only thing making a difference for me (from the nexus 4).
they should have put in a 6000 mAh battery imo
I'm not going to ***** as long as it gets me through the day. I charge at night, and don't see why anyone else doesn't..
andTab said:
Really? It's pretty ****ty, given that the equally sized G2 gets almost 24 hours?
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Buy the G2?
yahoowizard said:
I'm not going to ***** as long as it gets me through the day. I charge at night, and don't see why anyone else doesn't..
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given that most of us probably work in front of a computer screen all day, the lack of extra micro USB cables is astonishing
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they should have put in a 6000 mAh battery imo
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It really should be over.........
wait for it.........
wait for it.......
It's coming.....
over 9000!
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3000mAh =/= 2300 mAh
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Well, since they made it a ****ty brick of a phone they should have kept the larger battery.
DUMB google.
andTab said:
Well, since they made it a ****ty brick of a phone they should have kept the larger battery.
DUMB google.
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You do understand that the N5 is a lot cheaper than the G2 ?
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andTab said:
Well, since they made it a ****ty brick of a phone they should have kept the larger battery.
DUMB google.
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then move along and buy a move expensive phone.
andTab said:
I originally was very excited about the N5, especially when it was supposed to be smaller than the N4 (which was already borderline - I would say 132mm h is the max)
But with this being another stupid brick, there is ZERO appeal - especially with such a small battery.
STUPID google!
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Thanks for sharing.
Obviously had enough appeal for you to take time out of your busy day to complain about what the second largest tech company in the world should do to earn your business.
With most units being sold out across the world, I'm sure "stupid" Google is laughing all the way to the bank.
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He's doing a bit obviously... I mean. Right?
Itchiee said:
He's doing a bit obviously... I mean. Right?
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He is a very obvious troll
psychoace said:
He is a very obvious troll
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He is very obvious child.
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying
It is a valid point.
Even if you want an expensive phone, there are little options.
Droid Maxx was US only, G2 is expensive. There you have the issue of lack of updates and crappy skins.
I want a phone with huge amounts of on screen time and the latest updates...
Hey guys what you think new mate arrived
Younger brother Mate S
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_s_is_official_with_a_55inch_display_and_kirin_935-news-13816.php
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2700mah baterry? wrf?
haistiinta said:
2700mah baterry? wrf?
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I don't believe that it suppose to be 3700 or 3500.. bcos phone is 5,5"..
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Huawei-Mate-S_id9580
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http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Huawei-Mate-S_id9580
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yeah it is 2700 .. hm strange..
but it might perform same as mate 7 ..
and even weirdest thing is they switched to AMOLED ..
http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/mateS/specifications.htm
2700 is a joke... Especially for a Powe user..
Looking forward to see the battery test, but if it wasnt for the battery I could have pre ordered it right now.
I thought Huawei was more intelligent than that and did not jump on the small battery trend.. and instead having the biggest batteries on the market..
I wonder in what time frame we can expect Mate 8... which will have kirrin 950 and most likely 20 megapixel camera.
I really like the 2D glass..
Big screen, huge battery, decent screen to body ratio, this is why I bought HAM7 and this is why I started following HAM1 and HAM2.
I hope the battery spec is a typo
Dang, Huawei has always been on top with their batteries. Would be a shame if they slipped up with this device.... That's one thing they will have over top of all these other OEM's. Huawei is going to instill fear in all of them hahaha.
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Unfortunatelly its not. On launch event they even shown some slide where was picture of battery and it had text 2620 mAh. Unfortunatelly dont have original here and its not readable on downsized version.
Bit disappointed...
Wlk said:
Unfortunatelly its not. On launch event they even shown some slide where was picture of battery and it had text 2620 mAh. Unfortunatelly dont have original here and its not readable on downsized version.
Bit disappointed...
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Well, guess testing needs to be done to see how the battery life is. Makes me curious if they changed up the system and frameworks to accommodate for the battery life.
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There are quite powerfull tools to allow selectably kill background tasks when screen is off, another to pick which apps have access to data connection (wifi/mobile separately). But not sure if they are able to limit general system draw to allow longer uptime. Disconnected from charger this morning, playing with phone quite lot and still have 59% battery. But by playing I mean setting it up, not playing games. Seems to me like usuall one day of power use, or two day of limited. No surprise here unfortunatelly, hoped for 4000+ mAh battery like old Mate 7...
Wlk said:
No surprise here unfortunatelly, hoped for 4000+ mAh battery like old Mate 7...
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I hear ya. The Mate 2 can typically last up to two days easily. Have seen it last three days even.
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Amazing ... 128GB and you can add 128GB SD card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93dtZb0buVE
Does anyone know about NFC on Mate S? All sites are saying different things. Also on Huawei's consumer site it says Mate S only has b/g/n 2.4ghz wifi which is very odd. Anyone know actual specs?
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Does anyone know about NFC on Mate S? All sites are saying different things. Also on Huawei's consumer site it says Mate S only has b/g/n 2.4ghz wifi which is very odd. Anyone know actual specs?
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It has nfc, just dunno how to find what wifi standards it supports?
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It has nfc, just dunno how to find what wifi standards it supports?
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There's quite a few phones that have launched without NFC which I couldn't understand and with the conflicting information of the Mate S I'm in two minds. I'm going to pre order so I guess I'll find out when I get it.
Oppo R7 Plus, OnePlus 2 and few other new releases without NFC. I know a lot of people don't use it yet but with Android Pay round the corner I can't see what manufacturers leave it out. Doesn't cost much to put in NFC. Hmmm
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It has nfc, just dunno how to find what wifi standards it supports?
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It has NFC. Works fine.
The Mate S I have with me doesn't see my 5G WiFi network, only the 2.4 wifis. My "old" G3 has no problem handlng the 5G nets.
The battery is 2700. It's not bad compared to the G3. More later.
I t completely doesn't matter if it supports only WiFi 2G and not 5G..
My GF has P7 which has only 2G and she doesn't complain about it.. internet works perfect in the whole house..
Hello. It has been just 2 days since my Note 9 arrived. Everything is perfect. I wonder about the battery percentage range. I mean, you know, it is harmful to go from "0 to 100" all the time. This is my first Android after 4 years of IOS jail...
What is the safest method? Thank you!
If you search in the Note8 forums I remember reading some posts on battery life/health long term and the general opinion, some backed with links to studies, was that the optimal range was between 40-80%. I'm no expert, but from what I read and looked up at the time, I think that was mostly correct, however I get the impression most people (including myself) don't actually charge their phones that way. I think a lot of posters said they didn't let their phone drain too low, and certainly not to 0, but happily charged them up to 100% every day/night.
As I say, some searching on these forums, or even just googling should give you the answers you want. Hope it helps! ?
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If you search in the Note8 forums I remember reading some posts on battery life/health long term and the general opinion, some backed with links to studies, was that the optimal range was between 40-80%. I'm no expert, but from what I read and looked up at the time, I think that was mostly correct, however I get the impression most people (including myself) don't actually charge their phones that way. I think a lot of posters said they didn't let their phone drain too low, and certainly not to 0, but happily charged them up to 100% every day/night.
As I say, some searching on these forums, or even just googling should give you the answers you want. Hope it helps! ?
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Apparently that is the correct way to charge lithium based batteries. I have my quarrels about it though because of the heating aspect. If the device is charged that way, and the device is heavily used, it will end up getting very hot which is what happens in my case. Heat causes extra wear and tear on batteries, and actually causes them to discharge more rapidly, and take a lot more time to get charged. So using the 20-60% or 30-80% method on a heavily used device just might not be the best way to care for the battery.
I'm still struggling to find a balance of charging on my Note 8. Still haven't found a good solution as yet considering that it's rooted so it's limited to 80% max.
I've been doing the accubattery 40-80% "most" of the year with my Note 8. It claims my 3300mah battery has 3213mah remaining.
Semantics said:
I've been doing the accubattery 40-80% "most" of the year with my Note 8. It claims my 3300mah battery has 3213mah remaining.
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Thanks for the information. For how long have u been using acubattery and the note 8?
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Thanks for the information. For how long have u been using acubattery and the note 8?
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Since I got it. I do go to 100% when I'm tethering for long periods of time so there have been many times when the phone was topped off. I normally do the 80% though and the battery has held up well. I've had the Note 8 since release.
There are so many studies and opinions about this subject. Its like diet, one day we should eat margarine and not butter the next study shows the complete opposite?
To that end, as yet I don't think we are going to get a positive, reliable, professional answer?
Battery paranoia is not healthy been there. Just use the mobile and enjoy it.
Ryland
Been doing the 40-80% as best I can since ownership.
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Let it works for you, don't work for it.
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Let it works for you, don't work for it.
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Just playing devil's advocate..... But isn't only charging to 80% and basically not using 20% worse than over the course of say a year, losing 15% battery health??? Your still getting more battery use and over the course of time much more hours of usage. Unless your plan is to have the phone for 2+ years which most ppl on XDA don't do.
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Just playing devil's advocate..... But isn't only charging to 80% and basically not using 20% worse than over the course of say a year, losing 15% battery health??? Your still getting more battery use and over the course of time much more hours of usage. Unless your plan is to have the phone for 2+ years which most ppl on XDA don't do.
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I don't get the point of sweatin' over the battery.
Why waste your time and worry,seems like people are still stuck in the mindset of 2013 or so.
Just top.it off overnight, or, while you're getting ready for work/etc & it should have enough juice for the day.
It's akin to having a garaged sports car & never taking it out for a drive, why bother.....
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I purchased this about a month ago. I have been reading a lot of posts out here about people having fairly low battery life. So I had installed Accubattery to see if the discharge is abnormal. I checked today and it seems like Accubattery is claiming that my battery is only at 50~% health. Now I am unsure that if this is because it is a genuine fault or because this phone is supposed to have 2 2500mAh batteries and Accubattery is detecting only one of them. Any idea about this?
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What are your SOT vs battery percent used?
History tab...
blackhawk said:
What are your SOT vs battery percent used?
History tab...
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I've had my 11T Pro for roughly two weeks and I have the same issue.
It doesn't read charging speed correctly which confuses it's health calculations.
I'm sure your phone is fine.
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Those SOT numbers seem erratic. Some reasonable, others look impossible.
When you're using the browser not watching vids the usage should low.
As the previous poster mentioned it may just not have good sensing for battery usage.
Accubattery is only as good as the data it's getting. Even then it can screw up. I don't understand what's going on there.
Rather strange. I don't have that phone so I don't know what it's nominal run time should be. If it's running cool and you can get 8-10 hours SOT you're probably in the ball park.
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Those SOT numbers seem erratic. Some reasonable, others look impossible.
When you're using the browser not watching vids the usage should low.
As the previous poster mentioned it may just not have good sensing for battery usage.
Accubattery is only as good as the data it's getting. Even then it can screw up. I don't understand what's going on there.
Rather strange. I don't have that phone so I don't know what it's nominal run time should be. If it's running cool and you can get 8-10 hours SOT you're probably in the ball park.
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Hmmm, okay. I'll continue observing my phone's behaviour then. I do get over 8-10 hours SOT on medium usage. Additionally, I read from other threads that the 120W charger isn't charging the phone fully and it makes sense to charge with a lower power charger. So I will try that as well. Will keep this thread updated if I see any improvements.
Accubattery doesn't work well with dual battery setup, that's why it's showing Battery health at 47%.
Set design capacity to 2500.
11T PRO has 2x 2500mah battery for ultra fast charging. Set the design capacity to 2500 and you will be fine.
Pichulec said:
11T PRO has 2x 2500mah battery for ultra fast charging. Set the design capacity to 2500 and you will be fine.
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This presents a potential problem in the future as one battery can degrade and fail independently of the other. You really need to be able to monitoring both.
If the manufacturer designed it properly each battery should have its own power controller in a perfect world. Not sure if this is so on any of the dual battery phones...
blackhawk said:
This presents a potential problem in the future as one battery can degrade and fail independently of the other. You really need to be able to monitoring both.
If the manufacturer designed it properly each battery should have its own power controller in a perfect world. Not sure if this is so on any of the dual battery phones...
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I reached out to Accubattery support team and this was their reply.
Link from the email