Hello,
I hope someone can help me.
I'm from germany and I bought a new note 9.
I own a 3 year old Huawei Mate 9 and the Mate 9 has a much brighter display as the new note 9 !!!!
I have ordered more note 9 and it's the same for everyone.
Energy saving is OFF... accu is set to Maximum Performance.
Why is that note9 darker than the three year old huawei ???
When I light up the note9 with a bright flashlight, the display becomes a little brighter again. But not brighter than the Mate 9.
can someone help me please?? (
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steve197635 said:
Hello,
I hope someone can help me.
I'm from germany and I bought a new note 9.
I own a 3 year old Huawei Mate 9 and the Mate 9 has a much brighter display as the new note 9 !!!!
I have ordered more note 9 and it's the same for everyone.
Energy saving is OFF... accu is set to Maximum Performance.
Why is that note9 darker than the three year old huawei ???
When I light up the note9 with a bright flashlight, the display becomes a little brighter again. But not brighter than the Mate 9.
can someone help me please?? (
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remove adaptive brightness?
to me anything over 40% seems way to bright anyways.
Yes it is on.
steve197635 said:
Yes it is on.
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Turn off adaptive brightness
weren't i clear?
check Screen Mode in displays settings. if it is set to basic then it will be a yellowish or dim screen. set it to "Adaptive display".
Mate 9 use ips lcd right? So the display technology not the same. IPS need LED to backlight the screen hence its look brighter when on max brightness because it lit the whole screen. Note 9 using Amoled panel, every pixel capable of producing their own light. So the brightness intensity not the same. Plus i would not recommend using max brightness, it'll make screen burn in much faster on amoled panel.
nmlng said:
Mate 9 use ips lcd right? So the display technology not the same. IPS need LED to backlight the screen hence its look brighter when on max brightness because it lit the whole screen. Note 9 using Amoled panel, every pixel capable of producing their own light. So the brightness intensity not the same. Plus i would not recommend using max brightness, it'll make screen burn in much faster on amoled panel.
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This, you cannot compare LCD with OLED like that, OLED is superior for a number of reasons but peak brightness is not one of them.
Displaymate test
Samsung managed to get the Note 9's full-screen peak display brightness to 710 nits,
I can tell you the Note 8 has a slightly brighter/whiter display than my Note 9. The Note 7 the same (I still have my Note 7). Side by side, same settings, the Note 9 display is not as bright or white as either of those two phones. It's not a huge deal, barely noticeable really, but side by side you can definitely tell the N9 is not quite as bright or white. And before anyone asks or suggests, of course the settings on all 3 were the same.
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Source: https://translate.google.com/transl...Samsung_GALAXY_Note_4.html&edit-text=&act=url
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Smaller Delta E is better in above figure.
Not to forget, Note 4 will have infinite contrast and much black levels compared to iPhone 6.
Comparable brightness characteristics: maximum brightness Samsung was 334 cd / m 2 , if we talk about white fill the entire screen. But if the area of the white filling is reduced to at least 50%, the brightness is clearly growing - already up to 370 cd / m 2 . As it turned out, this is not the limit! If we translate the screen to automatically adjust the brightness and smartphone will be exposed to bright light (eg the sun) - that the brightness can grow to an impressive 620 cd / m 2 . Add to that the excellent efficacy of anti-reflective coating and conditionally "infinite" contrast AMOLED zero black - and you get an amazing combination.
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The average color temperature Note 4 close to the reference value of 6500K. Note 4 color balance in the "main" is set perfectly. Most eloquently confirmed by the mean value of the error Delta E value of 1.07 units.
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The average color temperature iPhone 6 Plus - about 7400K. Color balance shows that the image has a light bluish tint. The average error of Delta E on the gray scale - 8.5 units. Deviations tint get higher than that of the screen Note 4.
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Color gamut Note 4 in the "main" fully complies with sRGB, without any discounts and errors. Moreover, the intermediate color values ββlie practically on the reference values ββ- the minimum error. Total score of 24 color patterns ColorChecker gives an average error of Delta E value of only 1.22 units.
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Overall Score color iPhone 6 Plus 24 templates ColorChecker gives the average error in the Delta E value of 3.52 units. Factory setting of color adequate, though not without some flaws.
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Galaxy Note 4, almost perfect:
iPhone 6 Plus, not so perfect!
Did I mentioned about contrast and black level yet? :victory:
Now for the last freaking time, AMOLED displays are not inaccurate!!
CLARiiON said:
Now for the last freaking time, AMOLED displays are not inaccurate!!
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NO, not anymore. I like the max brightness level, that's a factor I will look at now after my disappointing screen brightness on my LG G3.
Another nail on the coffin
http://displaymate.com/iPhone6_ShootOut.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
Dr. Raymond Soneira of DisplayMate conducted a test to see just how much Apple has improved its smartphone display since the iPhone 5 was released in 2012. According to Soneira's*iPhone 6 Display Technology Shootout, the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have the best LCD displays of any smartphone on the market.
Soneira praised the iPhone 6's display after his testing, but it wasn't enough to steal the title of "Best Overall Smartphone Display" from Samsung's Galaxy Note 4.
Soneira says the Galaxy Note 4 matches or breaks records in smartphone display performance in categories such as highest absolute color accuracy, highest screen resolution, and highest peak brightness, among other areas. Although Apple's new smartphones come with the best displays of their kind, Soneira believes the Galaxy Note 4's display is generally better.
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source
From article: http://displaymate.com/iPhone6_ShootOut.htm
We recently gave the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 our overall Best Smartphone Display award, and for the time being that continues for all of the reasons originally mentioned there. In particular, for implementing Color Management to provide multiple Color Gamuts, and then using the Color Management to provide the Highest Absolute Color Accuracy for Standard (sRGB/Rec.709) consumer content of any Smartphone or Tablet display that we have ever measured
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I recently got my 128gb, and returning the 64gb tomorrow, did some comparison on the screen, 128 on the left side.
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Light bleeding on the camera at low light condition
Brighter on the 128gb(letft). Stripes are from the camera(glare)
Different display modes?
Takes a few hundred hours for the pixels to settle. In a month they both would probably look similar.
556AR said:
Different display modes?
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This. Make sure your display mode is set to the same setting on both devices.
Light bleed does suck though. I had that on pretty much every HTC device I've owned.
556AR said:
Different display modes?
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Same "Basic" display modes (as posted on the pic).
jhun80 said:
Same "Basic" display modes (as posted on the pic).
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While this may sound crazy! This is normal (that there not exactly the same). While you might be able to keep comparing different S6 until you find a pair that "matches", or have the same screen brightness any random pick won't be the same...there are many factors and as simple as different build dates etc...
On the S6 now and have had every galaxy since the first one and several HTC's before. I always by in pairs (keep the wife upgraded) and have noticed this every single time and not just with the Samsung's. Just how it is.
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Alright, thanks
This is 'normal'. I am on my 3rd S6 because the first two had that ugly pink tint to it. My 3rd phone not only has no pink tint, but also a really crisp white display. Compared to the previous phones, they were much more yellow.
geoldr said:
This is 'normal'. I am on my 3rd S6 because the first two had that ugly pink tint to it. My 3rd phone not only has no pink tint, but also a really crisp white display. Compared to the previous phones, they were much more yellow.
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I'm on my 3rd as well, no pink but it does have some green at the bottom sadly. It's not too noticeable, and I don't think I want to go through the hassle of getting a 4th replacement. There's a whole thread on it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/getting-replacement-s6-due-to-screen-t3074865
All the AMOLED displays for the S6 are going to have slightly different factory calibration on all profiles. So no two S6 displays are going to be the exact same.
There is no such thing as light bleed on AMOLED screens.
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There is no such thing as light bleed on AMOLED screens.
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Exactly. Basic knowledge
AMOLED does not have a backlight, it lights up each individual pixel which is why you can have inky blacks, because it simply turns off those pixels, unlike LED screens that use a black image with a light behind it giving off a grayish background.
@rbiter said:
There is no such thing as light bleed on AMOLED screens.
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So how do you call that on the picture i posted? That only happens when i opened my camera app on total darkness. A little bit brighter on the botttom
jhun80 said:
So how do you call that on the picture i posted? That only happens when i opened my camera app on total darkness. A little bit brighter on the botttom
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light sensor is different in the camera (more sensitive or uneven)
I noticed a change in my screen after installing a tmobile update. Originally there was a completely black screen on the lockscreen, but after the update it almost appeared that there was a sort of gradient almost representing a light bleed.
How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the LG V20's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Definitely not a Note 7, which sets the standard for true blacks. I'll bet this screen is easier on the battery.
douger1957 said:
Definitely not a Note 7, which sets the standard for true blacks. I'll bet this screen is easier on the battery.
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I'm going to disagree. The Note7 is a standard for "true black" because it is actually true black. An LED/OLED/AMOLED/etc display accomplishes black by simply shutting off an LED pixel, thus creating a 100% TRUE black. (Also, LED being off is using 0 energy).
LCD's on the other hand require backlighting, thus anytime the screen is on, the entire thing is lit. This is why no LCD will ever accomplish a 100% true black. It's also the reason why LCD's tend to be more of a battery hog because all pixels, even black ones, require lighting which requires energy.
To see the difference, put an AMOLED and LCD screen phone beside each other in a dark room and do a google image search for 000000, click one of the results and view it full screen. The AMOLED phone will appear to be off and the LCD phone will still be giving off light.
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I don't know if everybody know this but the note 7 is irrelevant.
techrider6262 said:
I don't know if everybody know this but the note 7 is irrelevant.
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DING DING DING We have a winner!!!!
Note 4 Note 7 no difference for this discussion same AMOLED panel.
the LGv20 has a nice screen. very nice screen in fact (I now have one) it is not REMOTELY as good as my note 4 screen.
way way way to high a color temp on the panel. its damned near blue. not remotely white. when I use low warming it helps a little but not much. you get used to it but you really really notice in large areas of white.
the blacks are ok but again. horrid if you are used to an oled panel. I hope LG puts an oled panel in the V30 since I know they have the tech (their oled televisions are drop dead sexy alas way way outside of anything remotely in my budget)
what helps is that it has the 1440p panel. this really is the ideal resolution for a 5.5 to 6 inch panel where 1080p is just lacking noticeably. you adjust to the high temperature you don't adjust to low resolution.
sadly so far the camera is crap at night. grrr. was hoping for better. have not really tested in in daytime yet though I expect it will be fine.
nerys71 said:
Note 4 Note 7 no difference for this discussion same AMOLED panel.
the LGv20 has a nice screen. very nice screen in fact (I now have one) it is not REMOTELY as good as my note 4 screen.
way way way to high a color temp on the panel. its damned near blue. not remotely white. when I use low warming it helps a little but not much. you get used to it but you really really notice in large areas of white.
the blacks are ok but again. horrid if you are used to an oled panel. I hope LG puts an oled panel in the V30 since I know they have the tech (their oled televisions are drop dead sexy alas way way outside of anything remotely in my budget)
what helps is that it has the 1440p panel. this really is the ideal resolution for a 5.5 to 6 inch panel where 1080p is just lacking noticeably. you adjust to the high temperature you don't adjust to low resolution.
sadly so far the camera is crap at night. grrr. was hoping for better. have not really tested in in daytime yet though I expect it will be fine.
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So turn down the blue. Nougat lets you.
Hmm.. Coming from a note 7... The 7 still has a better screen.. But increase brightness to 60 and up and it looks really great. Can't complain.
Yeah the blacks cant compare to my note 4 but at least the viewing angle is good enough. Dont notice any colour shift at any reasonable angle.
Sent from my LG-H990 using Tapatalk
Has anyone fiddled with the Color settings under Accessibility menu? I wonder if those would help.....anybody have success?
Zeromus2003 said:
Has anyone fiddled with the Color settings under Accessibility menu? I wonder if those would help.....anybody have success?
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There's already a thread all about it
It's not much of a thread tbh. I've just read it.
Amoled vs LCD. Note 4 vs V20. You win some you lose some. Having come from Amoled screens (Nexus 6, Note 4, etc) you get spoiled by blacks. However, the colors on the V20 are fantastic. I am a weekend pro photographer and can tell you I feel the V20 is way more natural than the over saturated colors of an Amoled screen. Also viewing angles on the V20 maintain colors while the Note 4 does not.
But back to black levels. This is good for an LCD screen and turning off the top display improves it a lot. The black level is good but it is a dark grey. But when you watch Netflix etc in the dark it is not bad at all. Not Amoled good but definitely not bad.
OK so having done some more watching with the lights totally off, I can say this is a disaster in terms of black levels. I watched 10 minutes of Lord Of The Rings and pretty much stopped.
I just bought moto x4 and it's display look's darker then any other normal display. Look at Images
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Why does display looks red when the color is Orange. Is this real colour of the display or is display defective?
Are you on vibrand mode? Try on normal, maybe will make difference.
matrixex said:
I just bought moto x4 and it's display look's darker then any other normal display. Look at Images
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Actual screenshot(from moto x4)
Why does display looks red when the color is Orange. Is this real colour of the display or is display defective?
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Unfortunately, X4's display is supersaturated when you use vibrant color option in display settings. and normal mode is under-saturated.
a custom kernel can solve this issue by small amount, but it's still can't fix it to normal levels. it's a real issue for me too specially after coming from Nexus 5x's awesome colour correct screen.
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Are you on vibrand mode? Try on normal, maybe will make difference.
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I already did that and the results were same anyway its display is still good. At least good for eyes.
kraatus90 said:
Unfortunately, X4's display is supersaturated when you use vibrant color option in display settings. and normal mode is under-saturated.
a custom kernel can solve this issue by small amount, but it's still can't fix it to normal levels. it's a real issue for me too specially after coming from Nexus 5x's awesome colour correct screen.
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EDIT : Definitely, I previously used moto z which has AMOLED panel with vibrant colors but after using this the screen seems dark and I think It will take time to adjust to it. Overall a great device.
kraatus90 said:
Unfortunately, X4's display is supersaturated when you use vibrant color option in display settings. and normal mode is under-saturated.
a custom kernel can solve this issue by small amount, but it's still can't fix it to normal levels. it's a real issue for me too specially after coming from Nexus 5x's awesome colour correct screen.
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@kraatus90
Now it's really getting on my nerves. I mean seriously I can't get used to this. Is this display is made to look like this or is it the fault of stock android?
DUPLICATE
matrixex said:
@kraatus90
Now it's really getting on my nerves. I mean seriously I can't get used to this. Is this display is made to look like this or is it the fault of stock android?
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I think they have done this to please those guys who love punchy colors of Amoled displays. stock android has nothing to do with it it's just how they have made/calibrated vibrant profile.
the thing is looking good =/= perfect. people don't get it and always demand Amoled screen. thanks to that moto has made IPS panel too saturated. it can be fixed somewhat with custom kernel. but i won't recommend it right now because we don't have proper TWRP yet.
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I think they have done this to please those guys who love punchy colors of Amoled displays. stock android has nothing to do with it it's just how they have made/calibrated vibrant profile.
the thing is looking good =/= perfect. people don't get it and always demand Amoled screen. thanks to that moto has made IPS panel too saturated. it can be fixed somewhat with custom kernel. but i won't recommend it right now because we don't have proper TWRP yet.
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I can live with this if I can get used to this.
it goes super hyper vibrant only in powersaving mode, it's on purpose and there is no way to turn it off. othherwise it's not that bad
I observed the same as well. When I compare my Moto X4 to any other highend phones like the S8, iPhone 7, HTC U11, etc,.. the X4 seems to be darker (a bit saturated).
The issue is that all pics look dark on the phone so when I edit something and post it say, on Instagram. It will look really bright.
It's hard to edit now coz I don't know how it will look like on other devices.
I hope they will have another color mode aside from the vibrant and standard. Somewhere between the two.
matrixex said:
I just bought moto x4 and it's display look's darker then any other normal display. Look at Images
Image taken from a camera
Actual screenshot(from moto x4)
Why does display looks red when the color is Orange. Is this real colour of the display or is display defective?
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How did you enable speedometer for net speed in status bar?!
Having the phone for over 3 weeks now and I've noticed in very low brightness (1-10%) that display is unevenly lit. Dark gradient on the right side. Visible especially if your view a dark grey solid colour.
Is this an OLED issue or do I have a defective panel?
Va2c said:
Having the phone for over 3 weeks now and I've noticed in very low brightness (1-10%) that display is unevenly lit. Dark gradient on the right side. Visible especially if your view a dark grey solid colour.
Is this an OLED issue or do I have a defective panel?
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This is something related to DC dimming feature. Try disabling DC Dimming option in Display setting and check if you notice any difference.
I experience the exact same issue... on my Pixel 3a XL.
Came here because I'm evaluating a new purchase, and the first post I read is about this problem.
Meh!
P12AV33N said:
This is something related to DC dimming feature. Try disabling DC Dimming option in Display setting and check if you notice any difference.
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I've tried that before posting here and it's still there. It's apparent when you use at night. Day time practically imperceptible.
Giocarro said:
I experience the exact same issue... on my Pixel 3a XL.
Came here because I'm evaluating a new purchase, and the first post I read is about this problem.
Meh!
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I think since these are budget devices (relatively) with amoled screens they cut corners in QCC.
Va2c said:
I've tried that before posting here and it's still there. It's apparent when you use at night. Day time practically imperceptible.
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Strange!
I only experience the exact same problem but only when the DC dimming is on, otherwise everything is fine even on the lowest brightness. (except ofcourse the smearing issue when scrolling through dark background on low brightness)
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Strange!
I only experience the exact same problem but only when the DC dimming is on, otherwise everything is fine even on the lowest brightness. (except ofcourse the smearing issue when scrolling through dark background on low brightness)
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That's an issue with all amoled screens
Same here, I dont know if i should keep the phone, i like it a lot but this issue has left me dissapointed, i've bought two of them and both have the same problem
oliese said:
Same here, I dont know if i should keep the phone, i like it a lot but this issue has left me dissapointed, i've bought two of them and both have the same problem
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If it's any consolation then even the one plus 7 (just checked my friend's) has the same issue. The notch also affects screen around it.
I have this on my 9TP. Only visable at very low brightness in a dark room and grey background.
Looks like a piece of tape what's folded up. Poor QC but it doesn't bother me.
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Verstuurd vanaf mijn Redmi K20 Pro met Tapatalk
https://www.xda-developers.com/redmi-k20-pro-xiaomi-mi-9t-pro-review-flagship/
As mentioned in the article, it's normal. Hope this settles everything.
compared my K20 with another
Tested my Redmi K20 with another K20 and found that only my device has uneven brightness on left side of panel. Red many threads that its common flaw among AMOLEDS but there isn't any stat what % of AMOLEDS. Moreover didn't find any clue why this happen in first place.
My device shows visible uneven grey at 10~15 % brightness.