I thought of opening a thread for CStark's Camera PX specific for the Pixel 3a, for settings, samples, comparing photos and for those who might not know it
Here are some settings recommended:
MAX_hey said:
I am using the following settings on my 3a and PXv4.5. The result has been incredible. I always use it with the HDR+ Enhanced enabled.
ADVANCED:
HDR+ control: On
PX MOD SETTINGS:
Synthetic Fill Flash: Off
Disable Focus Tracking: Off
Disable Motion Photos: On
Non-ZSL Frame Count: Default
Maximum Zoom Level: Default
Super Res Zoom Always On: Yes
Force Sabre Merge: Off
DCI-P3 Color Space: On
Portrait HDR+ Enhanced: Off
AI AWB for ZSL: Off
AI AWB for HDR+ Enhanced: On
AI AWB for Night Sight: On
LIB PATCHER:
Tone Curve: On (with default and stock settings)
Shadows Point: 0.33 (Default)
Highlight Points: 0.33 (Default)
Shadows (Lower Curve Half): -6 (Shadows Stock)
Highlights (Upper Curve Half): 15 (Highlights Stock)
Force System Noise Model: Off
Disable Dehaze: Off
Sharpness: 0
Saturation: 1.5
Global Luma Denoise: 1.0 Default
Global Chroma Denoise: 1.0 Default
WAVELET LUMA DENOISE LEVELS
Level 1 (Fine Details): 0.375
Level 2 (Rough Surfaces): 0.375
Level 3 (Edges): 0.375
Level 4 (Smooth Surfaces): 0.5
WAVELET CHROMA (Low Frequency) DENOISE LEVELS
Level 1 (Fine Details): 0.375
Level 2 (Rough Surfaces): 0.375
Level 3 (Edges): 0.375
Level 4 (Smooth Surfaces): 0.5
WAVELET CHROMA (High Frequency) DENOISE LEVELS
Level 1 (Fine Details): 0.375
Level 2 (Rough Surfaces): 0.375
Level 3 (Edges): 0.375
Level 4 (Smooth Surfaces): 0.5
Is an adaptation of the settings that the @Gnaius posted here previously. Tell us how these settings work for you.
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-> Do you have any other setting suggestions? Or any samples comparing Camera PX vs Stock Google Camera?
C'mon guys, anyone?
Using PXv4.3, but they should be quite similar.
Here are some of my settings:
Face shape correction disabled
Synthetic fill flash disabled
Super res always on disabled
Force sabre off
AI AWB on for everything (all 3 modes)
Lib patcher enabled
Global luma denoise 0.75
Tone curve on
Shadows -2
Highlights 17
The rest are mostly set to their defaults.
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Now testing PXv8.1 and quite pleased with the results so far.
Only change from default is 'Google AWB' always on.
I personally prefer AI AWB as I care more about skin tones and "memory colours" than actual colour temperature.
Mefiboshet said:
I personally prefer AI AWB as I care more about skin tones and "memory colours" than actual colour temperature.
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So you say "AI awb off" is more accurate to reality? Interesting...
Tomar777 said:
So you say "AI awb off" is more accurate to reality? Interesting...
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Not always, but often.
Actual colour temperature is usually somewhere in the middle.
I wish there was an option to control "AI AWB amount" rather than it just being an on/off switch.
What the AI is doing (for instance) is "thinking": This is a wall, walls are white, I'll adjust the white balance to match that.
In reality, some walls are actually yellow...
I leave it on because I found that it's very good at cancelling unflattering colour casts from artificial light sources such as orange'ish street lights.
The end result may be a less faithful recreation of the actual scene, but a better looking photo that is more similar to how we remember it, as our brain also has a tendency to subliminally "cancel" such colour casts in retrospect.
Tomar777 said:
I thought of opening a thread for CStark's Camera PX specific for the Pixel 3a, for settings, samples, comparing photos and for those who might not know it
Here are some settings recommended:
-> Do you have any other setting suggestions? Or any samples comparing Camera PX vs Stock Google Camera?
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HDR enhanced always on needs still fotos which is not common always , if there is motion in what you capture results are blurry
casabel said:
HDR enhanced always on needs still fotos which is not common always , if there is motion in what you capture results are blurry
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What Max_hay suggests is HDR+ Control to be set on "ON" so you can switch it off whenever you like.
If this setting is on "OFF" HDR+ stays on all the time
Tomar777 said:
What Max_hay suggests is HDR+ Control to be set on "ON" so you can switch it off whenever you like.
If this setting is on "OFF" HDR+ stays on all the time
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thank you for the clarification
Cstark has stopped developing his Pixel GCam but we have some news:
S4turno said:
New update from MWP:
- Gcam_8.2.204_V1.1_MWP
Changes:
1. Enable face detection
2. Enable focus tracking on video mode ( Thanks cstrak27 )
3. Added JPG quality options ( Thanks PZD )
4. Added DCI-P3 color gamut options
5. Added Pixel 5 AWB ( Thanks Arnova8G2 & Rakin )
6. Added new paramenter on Rampatcher
7. Reduce saturation on my xHDR lib by default
8. Removed Dynamic depth options ( still unstable ), use the "HDR style / model" instead
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Nikita also released a new update and it mentions Pixels ("Optimized GCam for Google Pixel devices").
I don't know how well it works and it's based on GCam 8.1 (not 8.2, like MWP's), but here's the link in case someone wants to test:
- NGCam_8.1.101-v1.2-fix
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In MWP's GCam there are many parameters under "advanced" .
Interesting settings:
HDR+ style/model,
Ram Patcher,
MWP custom Lib HDR lib (red color),
Custom AWB,
Astro max exposure time
Will work a bit with this one, any setup recommendations are welcome.
New version from MWP Gcam_8.2.204_v1.2_MWP.apk
Google Camera 8.2.204 Mod V1.2 by MWP
==============================
20-07-2021
Changelog from previous version :
1. Enable camera sound switch for pixel JPN region ( thanks cstark27 )
2. Fixing Pixel RGB calibration on custom AWB
3. Added some new AWB
On Pixel 3a running LineageOS 18.1, switching to Portrait mode using the rear-facing camera crashes the camera app.
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Hello to everybody,
Before alot of search i`ll try to ask it to you.
Ìs it possible that there isn`t any apps that let you use all potentility of the g1 camera?
I`ve seen that in hero rom(but now i have cym 4.2.5) the htc camera let you set iso, contrast, night mode, and a lot of features, i`ve buy all camera apps in market but any of these let you set these parameter.
I would pay for an app that let me use my camera in all its features.
Any suggestions?
FXCamera is free and i like it check it out
yes, i've already try it, but it's not what i want
Our product Camera ZOOM FX offers a very high degree of customization of the G1 camera's abilities. A Droid version is expected to be available in the next 10 days. Camera ZOOM FX is available on the Android Market for £1.29 or on the SlideME market.
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It features the following features :
- 40 photo fx! (pencil, fisheye, filmreel, etc.)
- circular zoom wheel (6x zoom)
- upscale zoomed images
- tap screen to snap shot
- timer + sound effect
- auto focus on / off
- burst mode up to 16 shots
- photo booth = quad camera!
- stable shot including stability meter
- sound activate
- props, borders and famous ‘buddies’ in your pictures
- customizable grid overlays
- whitebalance
- nightshot
- geotag
- send, share
- 1-click upload facebook, twitter, myspace
- silent mode
- antibanding (for TV / computer monitors)
- auto save option
- digi composites
More information is available on our website :
http://www.androidslide.com/camerazoom
We continue to update the product so feature requests are always welcome.
Snap Photo Pro?
yes, i already buy it, but this not have any contrast regulation, or iso setting or exposure etc.
i would like to have these features but... nobody do that.
The problem i that in low light or in night the photos are so dark.
It's not a DSLR, it's a camera on a phone.
yes i know, but for example in built in camera in hero rom there is the regulation of constrast, saturation and sharpness, and iso, and if i set high iso and low contrast i can take beautiful and clear photos with very low light.
davidesatta said:
yes i know, but for example in built in camera in hero rom there is the regulation of constrast, saturation and sharpness, and iso, and if i set high iso and low contrast i can take beautiful and clear photos with very low light.
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then you should get a hero phone or run a hero rom. again, this is a phone.
g1 camera
well i notice that no matter what program the g1 has its seems that the camera sux!!! is there any way that this can be fixed???
Try xROM.
It's a full rom, not an app.
But it has the Hero camera in it, and it works pretty good in dark light.
The Market does have some very nice camera apps (especially for a phone camera), but I fully understand the op's request. Sometimes it's not feasible to carry around a camera and a phone. For the candid, spur-of-the-moment shots, that's the benefit of having a camera on the phone. Unfortunately, most of these apps do post-processing of photos. That's not much fun when you take multiple photos. The Hero camera, on the otherhand, let's you set the brightness/contrast/etc BEFORE you take the pics. That's a huge benefit when you're in a restaurant or club and want to grab some low light photos.
xROM is a very nice, stable and fast rom. Although it's a bit older of a rom, it still has most of the functionality of the latest roms and pretty much all the speed as well. I believe it's the most recent rom that also had the Hero camera.
Thats why I'm hoping we get some software improvements once the Sony Ericsson phone comes out. I had the k800i Cybershot Phone before the G1, and that phone rocked. The camera software was amazing. I imagine the hardware will limit it of course, but the image processing right after the sensors output should see great improvements that, I hope because of android, will lead to amazing improvements of the camera apps.
I have Snap Photo Pro, FxCamera, and 3DCamera.
In my opinion...
Snap Photo is best for photos that matter the most (but its still not a real cameraphone so you can't expect much). But the detail is there and postediting can fix most issues. And you get the most megapixels compared to the rest.
FxCamera is awesome if you don't mind small photos. Web quality, but not print. Love this app though, and prefer the auto output of the polaroid mode better than auto Snap Photo settings, and use this one the most for casual shots.
Never had a photo from 3dCamera yet. Hoping its a skill level thing and I can make use of th incredible possibilities. But only possibilities so far.
I repeat, if a hero rom can use these features on a g1/dream phone, this mean that a stand alone software for g1 can do that, i think.
Why nobody has developed these features? What is the problem?
I totally agree! I just wish we had an app. in which nightmode actually worked...
is it just me but is FX camera missing from the market now? I havent been able to find it
Port Based on GCam 7.3
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PixelCam_Plus_V2.0What's Working?
- All Cameras are working fine including Main-Wide-Macro
2- Video Recording also working with macro and wide lenses support. Yes you can shoot videos on AUX cameras as well with this port.
3- Slow Motion, working without any force stop or any problem.
4- Night Sight
5- Astrography
6- Portrait
7- And all other features such as Panorama, PhotoSphere, Slow Motion, Time-lapse etc.
Download: celsoazevedo | Mediafire
Config file for Mi Note 10 Lite: Download (GCam/Configs7/)
Changelog:
[ PixelCam Plus uses Arnova's 7.3 as base. Configs from previous versions aren't compatible.]
- LIB DLIB 4C
- Added a separate Libpatcher for each lens (Thanks to UltraM8 and R0m10)
- Added Temporal Denoise Radius (Thanks to UltraM8 and R0m10)
- Fixed Auxiliary Lens on Mi9
- Auxiliary lens problem found and fixed (Thanks Richard)
- Added separate front and rear display
- Added separate exposure time for front and rear
- Fixed AWB (Thanks to Arnova and UltraM8)
- New AWB – Sony IMX471 – Sony IMX686 – Samsung S5K3T2 – Samsung S5K3l6
Minor visual modifications:
- New icons in libpatcher
- New Logo on the camera information.
- New Icon Following our identity pattern.
- Colors Following our identity standard.
- Small code cleaning.
- Among other modifications and corrections that I don't remember
Please uninstall the previous versions before installing this update to avoid issues.
2:
Work great thanks
Hallo, yeah it works great.
But I don't know if it's a bug if you zoom in HDR mode, the app closes.
Thanks, I will try it as soon as the mi note 10 lite is better supported (custom recovery/roms)
Video Recording also working with macro and wide lenses support. Yes you can shoot videos on AUX cameras as well with this port.
How you shoot videos with wide/macro lenses?
Also lenses icons disappear from viewfinder when switching between modes.
How can I load the config? I can't find the button
It doesn't let me download the app despite deleting all my gcam ports on my device
edit: nvm i deleted my old app but for some reason had to manually do it again from the settings
Liron123 said:
It doesn't let me download the app despite deleting all my gcam ports on my device
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What's the issue
hanste (SM-G901F) said:
How can I load the config? I can't find the button
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By double tapping the area between gallery button and shutter button
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Ijaz Farooq said:
By double tapping the area between gallery button and shutter button
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Where do I have to put the config file? It says no file if I foubleclick
hanste (SM-G901F) said:
Where do I have to put the config file? It says no file if I foubleclick
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hi,
you create a GCam folder at the root of the internal memory (internal shared storage space), in this GCam folder you create a Configs7 folder and in this Configs7 folder you put the XML file.
sorry for my bad english.
When I create a photosphere it won't let me see it. It opens the gallery app. But the default app doesn't recognize photospheres
Thanks, works really nicely. Only issue I found is a brief screen flicker when changing screen orientation.
1080 30/60 fps and 4k 30fps stabilization not working. it is supported on this version?
Ijaz Farooq said:
Port Based on GCam 7.3
View attachment 5059007
PixelCam_Plus_V2.0What's Working?
- All Cameras are working fine including Main-Wide-Macro
2- Video Recording also working with macro and wide lenses support. Yes you can shoot videos on AUX cameras as well with this port.
3- Slow Motion, working without any force stop or any problem.
4- Night Sight
5- Astrography
6- Portrait
7- And all other features such as Panorama, PhotoSphere, Slow Motion, Time-lapse etc.
Download: celsoazevedo | Mediafire
Config file for Mi Note 10 Lite: Download (GCam/Configs7/)
Changelog:
[ PixelCam Plus uses Arnova's 7.3 as base. Configs from previous versions aren't compatible.]
- LIB DLIB 4C
- Added a separate Libpatcher for each lens (Thanks to UltraM8 and R0m10)
- Added Temporal Denoise Radius (Thanks to UltraM8 and R0m10)
- Fixed Auxiliary Lens on Mi9
- Auxiliary lens problem found and fixed (Thanks Richard)
- Added separate front and rear display
- Added separate exposure time for front and rear
- Fixed AWB (Thanks to Arnova and UltraM8)
- New AWB – Sony IMX471 – Sony IMX686 – Samsung S5K3T2 – Samsung S5K3l6
Minor visual modifications:
- New icons in libpatcher
- New Logo on the camera information.
- New Icon Following our identity pattern.
- Colors Following our identity standard.
- Small code cleaning.
- Among other modifications and corrections that I don't remember
Please uninstall the previous versions before installing this update to avoid issues.
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Thanks for your effort. The mod is great except for the video. It freezes and crashes the phone.
Hope you can fix the issue soon. Also, the app icon, I wish you use the classic Gcam icon. well, it is just my opinion
how can I use the ultrawide camera on the gcam?
You need to make a file named Gcam in the internal storage
then inside that you make another file named Configs7
In that you just paste the xml file which is privided
(the files need to be named exactly as i typed them btw)
then you just double tap at the gcam app in the black part between the picture taking button and the gallery
It should show you a white rectangular shape and you press update
then you get access to ultrawide and macro
It doesn't let me record video for some reason
Hello
Asus Talk buffer fix issue request :
fix raw buffer resolution limitation
Can you please fix raw buffer resolution limitation like you recently fixed on Rog Phone5? Thank you
zentalk.asus.com
GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.0Dev Wichaya: link
Wide camera settings:
Dave.a said:
Hello, I managetd to get back wide with this settings:
Auxiliary camera - (back) - 2 buttons
manual set camera id - enable,
back camera 1 (main) - 0
back camera 2 (wide) - 2
front camera (main) - 1
I cannot get 64MP work
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Thank you
GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.1Changelog: - Added new import custom library. Compatible with ram patcher - Added Chinese Traditional, Chinese Simplified translation (Thanks vincent9579, Sking) - Fixed aux detection on Zenfone 8 and Rog Phone 5 - Changed default stream config for Zenfone 8 and Rog Phone 5 for fixed limited exposure - Added aux restart method - Added more parameters in ram patcher - Added camera.alternate_sensitivity for sun bug - Added camera.black_level
Wichaya: GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.1.apk
Download GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.1.apk by Wichaya.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Under test:
Arnova8G2 (Beta): GCam_6.1Beta.210709.0049build-8.1.101
Download GCam_6.1Beta.210709.0049build-8.1.101 by Arnova8G2 (Beta).
www.celsoazevedo.com
gkornaks said:
I need help for front camera, it stucks.
Change stream config to EISV2.
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Thanks you bro!!
Now I must give permission for read XML (attached). I successfully had possibility to have both cameras working. I need maybe more help about how to set it in the best way
Hello, I managetd to get back wide with this settings:
Auxiliary camera - (back) - 2 buttons
manual set camera id - enable,
back camera 1 (main) - 0
back camera 2 (wide) - 2
front camera (main) - 1
I cannot get 64MP working
Dave.a said:
Hello, I managetd to get back wide with this settings:
Auxiliary camera - (back) - 2 buttons
manual set camera id - enable,
back camera 1 (main) - 0
back camera 2 (wide) - 2
front camera (main) - 1
I cannot get 64MP working
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Working thanks sir. We have now a sort of gcam
Did you tried the MGC version?
michelinoO said:
Hello
Wichaya: GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.0.apk
Download GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.0.apk by Wichaya.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Edit:
With that one I'm able to use main camera and frontal.
Anyone is able to use wide also?
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Improves the quality compared to the Stock? Could you share pictures comparing GCam with Stock please
Probably a stupid question..... but the apk just "works" on my zen8. Where do I enter these settings to alter or add tele/wide? (I have opened the settings menu but do not recognize the fields where I can enter these values)
Dave.a said:
Hello, I managetd to get back wide with this settings:
Auxiliary camera - (back) - 2 buttons
manual set camera id - enable,
back camera 1 (main) - 0
back camera 2 (wide) - 2
front camera (main) - 1
I cannot get 64MP working
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Sogree said:
Probably a stupid question..... but the apk just "works" on my zen8. Where do I enter these settings to alter or add tele/wide? (I have opened the settings menu but do not recognize the fields where I can enter these values)
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Open menu from the top of screen, "gear" icon - mod settings - auxiliary camera...
I'm using snap version, did you tried that one?
michelinoO said:
I'm using snap version, did you tried that one?
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Can you share some samples?
michelinoO said:
Hello
Wichaya: GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.0.apk
Download GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.0.apk by Wichaya.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Edit:
With that one I'm able to use main camera and frontal.
Anyone is able to use wide also?
Thank you
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What is the difference between the different versions?
I will prepare a collection of photos from Camera app and gcam. From my observations it's 50/50 which means that some are better on Asus and some on Google cam. From what I see is that in very difficult conditions - like against direct sunlight - Google makes more pleasent photos, but Asus is generally brighter and in shadows keeps more natural colours. In dimmspaces Google keeps the colours as they are, however.
Most of the times during day theres no visible benefit of google. Also HDR+ takes much more time to shoot. HDR is quick, though.
I've read on zenfone 7, that is possible to activate the 64mpixel. I tried all IDs, but no-one works. On zenfone 7, the write that I'd is 6
ID 6 crashes the app so it does not work.
After todays photo session I can say that the gcam is not an upgrade. In most cases stock camera is better. Actually looking at the app versions it seems that the stock camera IS Google Camera with some slight adjustment.
If the sharpness of the stock cmaera could be slightly reduced to avoid pixelation it would be perfect. Maybe some manual log change will be possible for that.
I have created a folder with various photos from the Zenfone 8 taken on the stock camera and on the gcam.
You're welcome to take a look and compare by yourself - all data and an easy way to differentiate the cameras is the "info" where gcam has PXL_ in name and stock has P_
Comments on album are welcome.
Zenfone 8
138 new items · Album by Przemyslaw Bobnis
photos.app.goo.gl
In my opinion the stock camera is generally better and produces more true to life outcome. It is a little bit to bright and the sharpness in details is a little to big. You can see that only by zooming in. This can be overcome by shooting 64MP which happens quick but the size is bigger.
Thank you for your contribution, nice photos!
From what I can see, the gcam has more sharpening and saturation, which I like in photos.
But I prefer the HDR management of the stock camera, I love how it captures the clouds.
Is there a way to adjust contrast and saturation on the stock camera?
Yes and no, there are no options for that but you can slightly lower the brightness during the photo taking with a slider onscreen. That makes them a little more like gcam.
I have also noticed that HDR on stock is really nice but it softenes the image and destroys edges. With no HDR it super sharp.
Also stock wide camera has almost no distortion where gcam is quite round on edges.
New photos added to the album. The latest update seems to improve HDR very much. It's now better than gcam in almost every case.
thanks for sharing your experience, for me most of the times the gcam pics look much better on a calibrated monitor.
do you know if Face retouching and night sight are working with this gcam version?
johdost said:
thanks for sharing your experience, for me most of the times the gcam pics look much better on a calibrated monitor.
do you know if Face retouching and night sight are working with this gcam version?
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I saw that selfie camera, during night, the HDR doesn't work properly. But also the stock camera, all selfies in the night are very cheaper quality :/
Edit: I put the selfie camera with "pixel 4 settings", it works now!
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michelinoO said:
Hello
Wichaya: GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.0.apk
Download GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.0.apk by Wichaya.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Edit:
Thank you
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BSG: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix
Download MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
I saw that gcam make miracles, especially with selfie camera, during night. HDR work perfectly. All lens working properly.
This gcam freezing after 3 seconds, but i can take pictures, while changing lens. We need buffer fix, for make it working? or existing some config file?
Thanks
4k/60 fps doesn't work with gcam, is saved as 4k/30fps.. Would like to use GCam for filming because it has much smoother zooming while recording, in the default camera app the zoom is very choppy.
Need help to fix this issue with long exposure shots on my Redmi Note 10 Pro Max. I recently bought the phone and today when I tested long exposure shots it showed white dots in all the pics with same settings, higher the ISO, more clearly the dots were visible.
What can I do to fix this issue?
I attached 2 shots below that I took in complete dark room after cleaning my lens carefully, and for extra precaution I point the camera towards a black surface closely. These are clicked with "Wide" camera in pro mode with Shutter Speed : 30 and ISO : 6400, when I reduce the ISO, they dots fade away a bit. Ultra Wide camera produces similar results.
I even downloaded ProShot app to check if it does any good but, same dots at same place were visible.
These 2 are taken by system camera app, using above given setting (S-30, ISO-6400)
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Sniper God said:
Need help to fix this issue with long exposure shots on my Redmi Note 10 Pro Max. I recently bought the phone and today when I tested long exposure shots it showed white dots in all the pics with same settings, higher the ISO, more clearly the dots were visible.
What can I do to fix this issue?
I attached 2 shots below that I took in complete dark room after cleaning my lens carefully, and for extra precaution I point the camera towards a black surface closely. These are clicked with "Wide" camera in pro mode with Shutter Speed : 30 and ISO : 6400, when I reduce the ISO, they dots fade away a bit. Ultra Wide camera produces similar results.
I even downloaded ProShot app to check if it does any good but, same dots at same place were visible.
These 2 are taken by system camera app, using above given setting (S-30, ISO-6400)
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Which ROM and which cam?
ROM : MIUI Global 12.5.10 Stable and Camera : 108 MP, 5 MP, 8 MP, 2 MP and in depth details added as attachment.
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Mentioned the device details in the above reply.
That's hot pixels and/or noise. That's pretty much normal on any digital camera, especially on longer exposures and higher ISO. How much they're shown in the final image depends on noise reduction used - the less (less aggressive) noise reduction, the more they will be visible.
@Case_
Firstly thanks for helping out! And got what you're saying, so just wanted to know in my case, as I am on an android device, what measures can I use to fix this? Any third party app that'll process images with more noise reduction? Or maybe any way to change default settings of system camera app? Can't always switch to post editing to fix this, as it'll be tricky too.
@Sniper God I would start by not shooting 30 second ISO 6400 shots That can be a tall order even for a DSLR, let alone for a phone camera.
GCam ports have noise profile and noise reduction adjustments if you're willing to tinker. I think I saw a hot pixel removal setting there too. Also I've used the mobile Photoshop before for noise reduction. Other than that, I only ever use Snapseed for some light photo editing, but it doesn't have noise reduction (or I don't think it does, at least).
But yeah, as silly as the advice to not shoot shots like that might seem, that's honestly one of the best advices in photography in general - if your camera has some shortcomings, either take advantage of them and use them to improve the shots (which in this case is kinda hard), or work around them so the affect your shots as little as possible.
Case_ said:
@Sniper God I would start by not shooting 30 second ISO 6400 shots That can be a tall order even for a DSLR, let alone for a phone camera.
GCam ports have noise profile and noise reduction adjustments if you're willing to tinker. I think I saw a hot pixel removal setting there too. Also I've used the mobile Photoshop before for noise reduction. Other than that, I only ever use Snapseed for some light photo editing, but it doesn't have noise reduction (or I don't think it does, at least).
But yeah, as silly as the advice to not shoot shots like that might seem, that's honestly one of the best advices in photography in general - if your camera has some shortcomings, either take advantage of them and use them to improve the shots (which in this case is kinda hard), or work around them so the affect your shots as little as possible.
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Got it, but I've been trying to shoot with nearly same settings using different phones, and none of them reflected any issue like this. I think I should try resetting the phone or otherwise get to the service center as it is under warranty period. It even does this with inbuilt long exposure shot settings that are made to shoot stars and light painting.
It all depends on noise reduction algorithms and settings used. Many phone cameras are pretty aggressive in that regard, so things like these will rarely show up. Though it can also differ literally sensor from sensor, even on a same phone model, to a degree at least.
It is also IMO more likely to show up using settings made for astrophotography, because those are likely to have the noise reduction set pretty low to make sure it doesn't remove too many stars and smudge the sky too much.
I would seriously doubt a factory reset will change anything. But, I mean, you've got little to lose by trying that. And returning the phone is certainly your customer right if you're not satisfied with it.
BTW, out of curiosity, I just tried it on my phone. I got roughly the same amount of hot pixels as you did. Which, frankly, is impressively low for a phone camera as far as I'm concerned I'm pretty sure I'd get the same or more if I shot a 30s ISO 6400 exposure with my DSLR. I don't normally even use ISO 6400, I even try to use ISO 3200 as a last resort.
Does anyone recognize this type of image distortion, and what settings can avoid it?
I'm guessing it's unavoidable as something baked-in to how the camera tries to do selective image stacking/bracketing on only certain parts of the image, and being too unsophisticated to do it right.
This motivates me to finally figure out how to install google camera.
Look at the weird outline around the bird's head:
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Here are the settings, also attached original JPG image:
Filename - 20220424_120754.jpg
ImageWidth - 4000
ImageLength - 3000
Make - samsung
Model - SM-G998U
Orientation - Top left
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - G998USQU5CVCG
DateTime - 2022:04:24 12:07:55
YCbCrPositioning - Centered
ExifOffset - 238
ExposureTime - 1/379 seconds
FNumber - 4.90
ExposureProgram - Normal program
ISOSpeedRatings - 50
ExifVersion - 0220
DateTimeOriginal - 2022:04:24 12:07:55
DateTimeDigitized - 2022:04:24 12:07:55
OffsetTime - -04:00
OffsetTimeOriginal - -04:00
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/380 seconds
ApertureValue - F 4.89
BrightnessValue - 9.18
ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
MaxApertureValue - F 4.89
MeteringMode - Center weighted average
Flash - Not fired
FocalLength - 30.60 mm
ColorSpace - sRGB
ExifImageWidth - 4000
ExifImageHeight - 3000
ExposureMode - Auto
White Balance - Auto
DigitalZoomRatio - 10.00 x
FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 240 mm
SceneCaptureType - Standard
GPS information: -
GPSLatitudeRef - N
GPSLatitude - 38 19 37.222679 (38.327006)
GPSLongitudeRef - W
GPSLongitude - 75 4 59.453041 (75.083181)
GPSAltitudeRef - Sea level reference
GPSAltitude - 26 m
Thumbnail: -
ImageWidth - 512
ImageLength - 384
Compression - 6 (JPG)
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
JpegIFOffset - 948
JpegIFByteCount - 54701
Another example where I took a photo of a flock of birds, and you can see how the wings are flapping even though it was a single snapshot, not a video, suggesting again the weird image stacking but poorly done:
Exif info:
Filename - 20220424_120710.jpg
ImageWidth - 4000
ImageLength - 3000
Make - samsung
Model - SM-G998U
Orientation - Top left
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - G998USQU5CVCG
DateTime - 2022:04:24 12:07:10
YCbCrPositioning - Centered
ExifOffset - 238
ExposureTime - 1/612 seconds
FNumber - 4.90
ExposureProgram - Normal program
ISOSpeedRatings - 50
ExifVersion - 0220
DateTimeOriginal - 2022:04:24 12:07:10
DateTimeDigitized - 2022:04:24 12:07:10
OffsetTime - -04:00
OffsetTimeOriginal - -04:00
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/613 seconds
ApertureValue - F 4.89
BrightnessValue - 9.89
ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
MaxApertureValue - F 4.89
MeteringMode - Center weighted average
Flash - Not fired
FocalLength - 30.60 mm
ColorSpace - sRGB
ExifImageWidth - 4000
ExifImageHeight - 3000
ExposureMode - Auto
White Balance - Auto
DigitalZoomRatio - 10.00 x
FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 240 mm
SceneCaptureType - Standard
GPS information: -
GPSLatitudeRef - N
GPSLatitude - 38 19 37.284599 (38.327023)
GPSLongitudeRef - W
GPSLongitude - 75 4 59.422081 (75.083173)
GPSAltitudeRef - Sea level reference
GPSAltitude - 21 m
Thumbnail: -
ImageWidth - 512
ImageLength - 384
Compression - 6 (JPG)
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
JpegIFOffset - 948
JpegIFByteCount - 13200
Hardware problem i think
While you seem to have more knowledge on the depth of this camera, I thought I'd mention this just in case.
I'm a huge fan of portrait mode for subjects within 3-6 feet in the stock Samsung camera because you can do tricky filters in post. I very often use the "color point" effect in particular. As the software tries to isolate the color of the subject, if the background colors are within similar saturation/temperatures it'll occasionally "bleed" into the subject's colors & create a halo effect.
Here's an example of one I took this morning. In my case, this is normal since the dog's fur color shares similarities with the hard wood. So some of the "blondish brown" in the wood bled through & created the halo effect you can see around the dog - particularly around the ears.
Again, this probably isn't the case with you. Definitely try another camera app as you stated.
the second image implies that the shutter was kept open a bit too long and the camera captured variations of the bird flocks' wing/position hence ghost images imprinted. The camera may have done so to take additional reference images to use in order to perform the fine touch but ended up producing this compilation of a mess.
i would try reproducing the issue if it's quite consistent, then report to samsung members app > get help > error report and attach the original image
TheNewGuy92 said:
the second image implies that the shutter was kept open a bit too long and the camera captured variations of the bird flocks' wing/position hence ghost images imprinted. The camera may have done so to take additional reference images to use in order to perform the fine touch but ended up producing this compilation of a mess.
i would try reproducing the issue if it's quite consistent, then report to samsung members app > get help > error report and attach the original image
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Would you agree that it's impossible to control the "fine touch" image stacking?
When you look at the EXIF data for that bird wing flapping shot, the shutter speed reported by the camera is faster than the blink of the eye, only 1/613 second.
There is NO WAY a bird can flap his wing faster than 1/613 of a second, not even a hummingbird (their flapping is more like 1/10 second or 1/15 second per flap).
So my point is why did the camera report a shutter speed that is extremely fast, yet the camera shows wings in different positions, and therefore I cannot change a setting that would affect this.
Increasing shutter speed would not affect this, I'm just confused? Is there a global camera setting that a user can change to prevent this weird mismatch?
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Hardware problem i think
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Yeah... I've never seen that before (first image).
Shoot similar shot in raw mode. If it persists it's likely a hardware failure.
Throw it back at Samsung and let them sort it out.
KingFatty said:
Would you agree that it's impossible to control the "fine touch" image stacking?
When you look at the EXIF data for that bird wing flapping shot, the shutter speed reported by the camera is faster than the blink of the eye, only 1/613 second.
There is NO WAY a bird can flap his wing faster than 1/613 of a second, not even a hummingbird (their flapping is more like 1/10 second or 1/15 second per flap).
So my point is why did the camera report a shutter speed that is extremely fast, yet the camera shows wings in different positions, and therefore I cannot change a setting that would affect this.
Increasing shutter speed would not affect this, I'm just confused? Is there a global camera setting that a user can change to prevent this weird mismatch?
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I don't know the full detail of how samsung's camera works behind all them programmings.
My assumption is that the main photo (one you captured) takes that fast shutter image that it is set to, uses other lenses or maybe the same lens to take addition references to do its thing and attempt to make a better image.
The best DIY tests I got in mind is to try using the RAW Expert camera app to strictly remove as much of the algorithm as possible and see if it's still doing this.
If it is, then maybe I was wrong in assuming it was the algorithm acting out and really is a hardware issue.
Another option is to just go and have the camera module replaced and see if that fixes the issue.
One other test option is to use another app to see if it does the same thing. since the 3rd party app won't be affected by samsung's default image processing algorithm as much (hence people complaining about poor 3rd party app image quality lolol)