Question Time to return - OPPO Find X3 Pro

After spending just over a week with the FX3 pro think it's time to return it can't say I am blown away with it and don't feel it's a worthy successor to the FX2 pro
Battery life not that good having to quick charge at least twice to make it through the day ,
Camera has decent detail but colours are over saturated and not natural at all
Microscope lense is just pointless gimmicky lense and pretty useless in day to day use and hard to get a good in focus shot most of the time , detail quality reduces significantly when using zoom , again 10 bit photos is gimmicky when only the phone can display them at 10bit and when uploading to social media the quality is reduced to 8 bit anyway , performance for a SD 888 is disappointing this could be down to software optimization but stuttery web pages Facebook etc isn't grate and as mentioned Google feed is horrid considering its practically exact spec as the OnePlus 9 pro the bench marks are a lot less , maybe adaptive 120hz is to blame and not optimized correctly and even certain sites and apps just ain't optimized for high refresh rates , my 12 pro max with 60hz is smoother than 120hz on most social media and websites probably why apple have not jumped on the high refresh ban waggon admittedly swiping around the OS is a breeze but sadly that's were it ends , the chrome finish on the glossy black is just a step backward when most 2021 flagships are going for Matt finishes as the fingerprint and smudges are ridiculous on this device , sadly it's to many cons and that's just the major ones so will be retuning the device under my 28 day change of mind policy with the network , not being negative I'm sure most will be satisfied with the device but those things just make me think it's not worth the price tag that goes with it , and if you already have the X2 pro it's definitely not worth the upgrade yet

Wow what a shame that your journey with the FX3 turned out to be such a bad one.
I can't relate to most of your issues since my device is spot on from day 1
No lag or stutter and flawless benchmark scores, guess I am lucky and you got a Monday morning device.

Yes definitely or a Friday phone Lol should of known better than go with Chinese device , oh well on ward and upward

DoobyDroid said:
Yes definitely or a Friday phone Lol should of known better than go with Chinese device , oh well on ward and upward
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Only reason for me was the SD888 since I've had it with the Exynos issues by Samsung.
I did get the S21 Ultra 512Gb version first but that was a disappointment as well. It was a step back for me after the FX2Pro
Now I'm thinking about importing a SD version of the S21 Ultra, just not sure if that could give other issues on the Dutch networks

Yr I was looking at 21 ultra but a Friend had it for couple weeks and sent back due to camera not that grate although it's had a few updates since release and looking over on the forum camera updates so possibly better now and although previous exynos chips have been a let down against SD I think this time around it's slightly better not on par quiet but nearly but now you have said that I'm having second thoughts lol it's that or the dark side 12 pro Max , or stick with the x3 pro and see what updates address

DoobyDroid said:
Yr I was looking at 21 ultra but a Friend had it for couple weeks and sent back due to camera not that grate although it's had a few updates since release and looking over on the forum camera updates so possibly better now and although previous exynos chips have been a let down against SD I think this time around it's slightly better not on par quiet but nearly but now you have said that I'm having second thoughts lol it's that or the dark side 12 pro Max , or stick with the x3 pro and see what updates address
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Exynos 2100 is definitely not on oat with SD888 at least not with the S21 ultra. Had it for about a week and gladly returned it. My SD865 powered FX2Pro was performing much better compared to the Exynos powered S21U

I have no doubt" I'm just going on what bench comparison reviews I've seen yes still not as good but better than the S20 ultra's 990 was Vs 865 , Samsung slowly improving there chips , the one thing putting me of the 12 pro max is 60z going back from 120hz is horrid although I had the standard 12 prior to the x3 pro briefly after a few days you generally re adjust to 60hz as iOS is fairly buttery Smooth you do notice the odd stutter but what you loose in fluidnis you gain in battery so it's a question of trade offs and personal preference suppose camera samples do look better on the 12 pro max than s21 ultra more natural but does loose out to the s21 ultras video recording again it's what your willing to trade in one area to gain in another I personally very rarely even record video so not a big deal id rather have a better quick point and shoot cam, yes 21 ultra can do more and has multiple lenses and zooms but anything over 15x just starts to loose detail anyway so 108mp is pretty useless past that , decisions decisions one thing thought I'm really enjoying the 65w charging on X3 pro blazing fast and plugging in for 10 mins I'm good again for hrs I would definitely miss that if decide to exchange just wish the Sony 1 MK 3 was already out and I wouldn't have such hard time deciding as O2 have limited options to go for and nothing really new on the horizon for some time yet ,

patensas said:
Only reason for me was the SD888 since I've had it with the Exynos issues by Samsung.
I did get the S21 Ultra 512Gb version first but that was a disappointment as well. It was a step back for me after the FX2Pro
Now I'm thinking about importing a SD version of the S21 Ultra, just not sure if that could give other issues on the Dutch networks
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Why don't you just keep the x3 for another year? What do you not like about it?

latino147 said:
Why don't you just keep the x3 for another year? What do you not like about it?
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I miss the OneUI from Samsung devices and only reason I switched was the bad Exynos chip.
I miss the feeling I've got from the FX2Pro and the fact it did feel a bit more polished compared tot the FX3Pro
However I'll stick with the FX3Pro for a while to see what Oppo can do for us with firmware updates. As mentioned the latest firmware crippled my device when it comes to battery and performance, hoping they will fix this.
With previous firmware my device scored over 800000 point running Antutu 9, the latest firmware somewhere between 650 and 700000
Now I know benchmarks don't mean **** and real-life performance matters but also in real-life the performance dropped with latest firmware.
So if Oppo finds a way to fix the performance and battery drain with next update I'm cool.
Other small glitches on software side I can live with ( or solutions can be found )

Yeah, OneUI is almost perfect. Very customizable, especially with good lock.
Performance (s10+) wasn't that great though. My wife's s20 is still very choppy with 120hz activated.
And the fingerprint scanner on the s10 and s20 are terrible.
Oh, they should also start improving charge speeds! I can never go back to a 25W charger!

Seems a lot of mixed scores hear are my results Antutu 9.0.5

patensas said:
I miss the OneUI from Samsung devices and only reason I switched was the bad Exynos chip.
I miss the feeling I've got from the FX2Pro and the fact it did feel a bit more polished compared tot the FX3Pro
However I'll stick with the FX3Pro for a while to see what Oppo can do for us with firmware updates. As mentioned the latest firmware crippled my device when it comes to battery and performance, hoping they will fix this.
With previous firmware my device scored over 800000 point running Antutu 9, the latest firmware somewhere between 650 and 700000
Now I know benchmarks don't mean **** and real-life performance matters but also in real-life the performance dropped with latest firmware.
So if Oppo finds a way to fix the performance and battery drain with next update I'm cool.
Other small glitches on software side I can live with ( or solutions can be found )
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Hey, may I know how the FX3 pro fares currently?
Planning to buy one or wait for the reno7pro/s21fe. Wanna move away from Xiaomi now. The 1+ 9pro does not have certain 5g bands i need

I am going to return it too in the end..battery life isn't that great and no root etc. Zoom pics not so sharp. But the other alternative is s21exynos but I doubt with fine tuning will go worse than my actual immortal s10 For the high temp I usually downcloak from kernel ..so i think it will be ok.
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Oneplus 7 Pro vs Rog phone 2 ?

So I have received an offer to sell my 6t for $450, so I was wondering if I sell it what my next phone will be?
Main concerns for Rog phone 2:
- Size
- weight
- Quality control as many people in china reported issues with the screen
- OS OTA updates/ bug fixes
Concerns about oneplus 7 pro:
- more expensive around $100 more
- Curved screen glare.
What do you recommend?
Shady282 said:
So I have received an offer to sell my 6t for $450, so I was wondering if I sell it what my next phone will be?
Main concerns for Rog phone 2:
- Size
- weight
- Quality control as many people in china reported issues with the screen
- OS OTA updates/ bug fixes
Concerns about oneplus 7 pro:
- more expensive around $100 more
- Curved screen glare.
What do you recommend?
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I will go with the ROG. For a couple of reasons: Cheaper, design symmetry, better front firing dual speakers, 120 HZ screen and finally longer battery life. Regarding your concerns the weight isn't a big of a deal as they make it sound to be, in terms of size; yes it is big but it's similar to 1+ size. QC issues that will depend on how you view it personally I have no issues except for some software bugs I hope they fix soon in a future update.
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I will go with the ROG. For a couple of reasons: Cheaper, design symmetry, better front firing dual speakers, 120 HZ screen and finally longer battery life. Regarding your concerns the weight isn't a big of a deal as they make it sound to be, in terms of size; yes it is big but it's similar to 1+ size. QC issues that will depend on how you view it personally I have no issues except for some software bugs I hope they fix soon in a future update.
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I m reading many people's review regarding screen some experience some choppiness, low brightness or screen yellow light white?
Did the phone receive any updates yet?
I haven't seen any of that. Just the fact that not every app runs at 120fps. Other than that everything else I love about it.
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I haven't seen any of that. Just the fact that not every app runs at 120fps. Other than that everything else I love about it.
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oh thank you for your feedback, did you face any issues with google on mobile data? I do use google maps a lot on mobile data while driving.
No issues with google maps or tmobile. I'm using the tencent version. Although when I first had hotspot on I couldn't use gps. It seems to have sorted itself out though.
Dude go with ROG. I have the 7. The curved screen has been such a hassle. Always closing or pressing things I didn't mean to. And when gaming it's really really annoying.
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Dude go with ROG. I have the 7. The curved screen has been such a hassle. Always closing or pressing things I didn't mean to. And when gaming it's really really annoying.
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Do you think it will have a dev community like the zenphone 6?
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Do you think it will have a dev community like the zenphone 6?
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ohh man i have no idea. I hope so. Given how many sold so quickly and asus releasing unlocker I am sure there will be some movement. Also hopeful just looking at threads in this forum. Folks already flashing WW to CN version and got root. I am sure we will be fine. $500 for this phone is a steal.
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ohh man i have no idea. I hope so. Given how many sold so quickly and asus releasing unlocker I am sure there will be some movement. Also hopeful just looking at threads in this forum. Folks already flashing WW to CN version and got root. I am sure we will be fine. $500 for this phone is a steal.
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Isn't there a chinese website like xda? I bet they have achieved so root and mods to the device!
I have both. ROG 2 is taller even though OP7Pro has a bigger screen. Weight they're both heavy but ROG a bit heavier. OP screen is a lot brighter than my ROG. It will probably deoend on how you use your phone. I will sell my OnePlus and keep my ROG for the battery. I'm a casual gamer and heavy user of FB, FB Messenger, Viber, some YouTube and casual gamer and OnePlus gets me 4-5 hrs of SOT while ROG gets me 8-9hrs.
enyaj said:
I have both. ROG 2 is taller even though OP7Pro has a bigger screen. Weight they're both heavy but ROG a bit heavier. OP screen is a lot brighter than my ROG. It will probably deoend on how you use your phone. I will sell my OnePlus and keep my ROG for the battery. I'm a casual gamer and heavy user of FB, FB Messenger, Viber, some YouTube and casual gamer and OnePlus gets me 4-5 hrs of SOT while ROG gets me 8-9hrs.
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But OS updates and bug fixing, rog rarely receives updates. Which device has better haptics?
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But OS updates and bug fixing, rog rarely receives updates. Which device has better haptics?
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This is my first ROG Phone but a friend of mine has the ROG 1 and he is still on Oreo and last update he had I think was last March. So yeah in this regard OnePlus is better.
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This is my first ROG Phone but a friend of mine has the ROG 1 and he is still on Oreo and last update he had I think was last March. So yeah in this regard OnePlus is better.
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I have the Rog 1 and 2. Because i love both i haven't sold the first generation. Regarding updates i believe the Rog phone 2 will get better support because of it's popularity and price, yes the first generation isn't getting a lot of updates and we will be getting the Pie update i believe by the end of September at most if not earlier.
But coming back to the question of updates, do current updates have any added features ...barely in my opinion except for the security updates which the Rog phone is getting every 3 months since it was launched. I even prefer the Oreo rom on the Rog 1 over the Pie rom of the ROG 2 which to me doesn't add any added features what so over i even feel it's a downgrade in comparison, regarding Android Q or 10, the only thing to look for is improved gesture navigation and dark mode which we are enjoying currently on the ROG 2.
@Shady282 Good luck with which ever phone you go with!
for sure rog phone 2 is the winner.. i bought the 8/128GB version. its enough for me , 12 gb ram wont be used its only for marketing strategy and its only if anyone want more storage like 512gb.
rog phone 2 has an amazing 120hz oled 1ms pixel response, 10bit hdr10 almost full dci p3 screen with 240hz touch sample. latest plus processor with better 15% gpu performance,better front facing speakers,6000mah, 3,5mm jack, gorilla glass 6, ufs 3.0, 48+13mpx and 24 back and front camera with amazing stabilization, better haptics feed, better gaming and costant framerate, lots of usb c 3.1 with video output, fast charge( up to 30 watt supported).. its a best buy at 550$
oneplus 7 pro is less smooth 90hz and higher resolution will impact gaming and gpu benchmarks. no 3,5 mm jack, lower battery capacity, curved edges are cool but not useful and make accidental touches, worse speakers and stardard 855 processor. it cost 200$ more
maybe the only reason to switch to oneplus is software community and development, but i will stay to rog phone 2 due to better specs and price
Alessandro999 said:
for sure rog phone 2 is the winner.. i bought the 8/128GB version. its enough for me , 12 gb ram wont be used its only for marketing strategy and its only if anyone want more storage like 512gb.
rog phone 2 has an amazing 120hz oled 1ms pixel response, 10bit hdr10 almost full dci p3 screen with 240hz touch sample. latest plus processor with better 15% gpu performance,better front facing speakers,6000mah, 3,5mm jack, gorilla glass 6, ufs 3.0, 48+13mpx and 24 back and front camera with amazing stabilization, better haptics feed, better gaming and costant framerate, lots of usb c 3.1 with video output, fast charge( up to 30 watt supported).. its a best buy at 550$
oneplus 7 pro is less smooth 90hz and higher resolution will impact gaming and gpu benchmarks. no 3,5 mm jack, lower battery capacity, curved edges are cool but not useful and make accidental touches, worse speakers and stardard 855 processor. it cost 200$ more
maybe the only reason to switch to oneplus is software community and development, but i will stay to rog phone 2 due to better specs and price
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I m really liking the rog for all the specs but new OS gets a lot of optimizations in many different area even games performance, also fixes many bugs. The thing about asus with rog, is that they don't fix their bugs and u won't experience improved New OS features.
Also don't forget oneplus updates their phone much much faster than asus so my concern will be if asus will change their ways. They still didn't update rog phone 1 to Pie yet...
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Also don't forget oneplus updates their phone much much faster than asus so my concern will be if asus will change their ways. They still didn't update rog phone 1 to Pie yet...
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yes, but they made a lot of sales now and community here is doing great stuff and good spirit... customs roms may save this device.
Shady282 said:
yes, but they made a lot of sales now and community here is doing great stuff and good spirit... customs roms may save this device.
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Custom roms will cut almost all new features of rog 2 btw. So its only remains to hope asus will provide updates and optimization for 855+ and 120hz the most
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Custom roms will cut almost all new features of rog 2 btw. So its only remains to hope asus will provide updates and optimization for 855+ and 120hz the most
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Aouch, i totally forgot about this! Did the CN rom receive any updates, bug fixes since the phone release ?

Honestly torn between the ROG 2 or the OnePlus 7T

Hey guys. I've looked at the forums for the ROG 2 and honestly I'm torn between getting the ROG2 or the OnePlus 7T now...the ROG2 clearly has some software issues where the phone turns off by itself and the unsupported B20 band (800Mhz) for 4G coverage just screams future unpredicted problems to me. What would you guys say? Should I just save myself the troubles and go for the 7T? Are you guys satisfied with your ROG2 phones or should I go for the safer alternative, the OnePlus 7T?
slimshady112 said:
Hey guys. I've looked at the forums for the ROG 2 and honestly I'm torn between getting the ROG2 or the OnePlus 7T now...the ROG2 clearly has some software issues where the phone turns off by itself and the unsupported B20 band (800Mhz) for 4G coverage just screams future unpredicted problems to me. What would you guys say? Should I just save myself the troubles and go for the 7T? Are you guys satisfied with your ROG2 phones or should I go for the safer alternative, the OnePlus 7T?
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I have zero software issues, my phone never turns off and if I don't play games it will last 3 days.
What do you need? A real gaming phone with average camera and killer everything else but no real dev support or a mainstream like any other phone with great dev support and very good all around?
I wouldn't trade Rog for one plus, I came from one plus. It's all about your personal needs.
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I have zero software issues, my phone never turns off and if I don't play games it will last 3 days.
What do you need? A real gaming phone with average camera and killer everything else but no real dev support or a mainstream like any other phone with great dev support and very good all around?
I wouldn't trade Rog for one plus, I came from one plus. It's all about your personal needs.
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I'm just looking for a phone with a bigger battery and a 120hz display. I'm coming from a Xiaomi Mi 9T. I've seen the S20 in real life and the 120Hz display just blew me away. Kinda hard to stick with 60Hz now. I don't really care that much for games or for the support, I just want the phone to work good overall. I don't make that many pictures, but I'm sure the ones I would take would be more than good enough. The only thing I worry about now is the cellular support as my carriers support only 800Mhz band and 1800Mhz band. The phone however does not support 800Mhz or B20. I've got an option to buy an unused global edition ROG2 for just 520 euros so I think it's worth it.
slimshady112 said:
Hey guys. I've looked at the forums for the ROG 2 and honestly I'm torn between getting the ROG2 or the OnePlus 7T now...the ROG2 clearly has some software issues where the phone turns off by itself and the unsupported B20 band (800Mhz) for 4G coverage just screams future unpredicted problems to me. What would you guys say? Should I just save myself the troubles and go for the 7T? Are you guys satisfied with your ROG2 phones or should I go for the safer alternative, the OnePlus 7T?
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Before I bought my rog 2 was in same situation as u...rog 2 or 7t...to me the 7t has better camera , software support but only with 90hz screen...now I'm on rog 2 rocking 120hz screen , big 6000mah batt and a camera while isn't great but usable so I don't regret my decision...
P.s - I've used OnePlus devices in the past as well
AlanTham said:
Before I bought my rog 2 was in same situation as u...rog 2 or 7t...to me the 7t has better camera , software support but only with 90hz screen...now I'm on rog 2 rocking 120hz screen , big 6000mah batt and a camera while isn't great but usable so I don't regret my decision...
P.s - I've used OnePlus devices in the past as well
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Great, I'm glad I'm not the only one that was deciding between these two. I have an option to buy a new unused Rog2 global edition for 520 euros or the OnePlus 7T for 570 euros. I'll go with the ROG2. Thanks!
slimshady112 said:
Hey guys. I've looked at the forums for the ROG 2 and honestly I'm torn between getting the ROG2 or the OnePlus 7T now...the ROG2 clearly has some software issues where the phone turns off by itself and the unsupported B20 band (800Mhz) for 4G coverage just screams future unpredicted problems to me. What would you guys say? Should I just save myself the troubles and go for the 7T? Are you guys satisfied with your ROG2 phones or should I go for the safer alternative, the OnePlus 7T?
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I absolutely love my ROG Phone 2. Had it for several months now (since September) and have had zero software issues or restarts or anything like that. I have the Tencent 8gb/128gb model and am in the USA on AT&T and have zero signal or bandwidth/speed issues! And the battery life is just... Well... There's literally no other device on the market that can compete with it on battery life!
slimshady112 said:
Great, I'm glad I'm not the only one that was deciding between these two. I have an option to buy a new unused Rog2 global edition for 520 euros or the OnePlus 7T for 570 euros. I'll go with the ROG2. Thanks!
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ROG Phone 2 supports B20 (at least global version does, cant speak for tencent as I'm not sure)
Seriously where is this OnePlus has better camera came from !
With device camera all the reviews on YouTube came to the conclusion that Asus is better and with gcam it's even better than my note 10!
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Seriously where is this OnePlus has better camera came from !
With device camera all the reviews on YouTube came to the conclusion that Asus is better and with gcam it's even better than my note 10!
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Coming from a OnePlus 7 pro. That device had a terrible camera. Even OnePlus admitted that they are not satisfied with the camera performance..
I was trying to decide between the 7T and ROG 2 and went with ROG 2. Been using it for the past two months. One of the biggest issues I face is with the display, and had I known this before buying I wouldn't have picked this. It made me unable to watch my shows before sleeping, but hopefully this'll get fixed with Android 10.
Other problems include extremely slow software support (and with a high chance of 10 being the last version), minimal customisation options, and the weight. The weight becomes really noticeable and starts hurting your arms if you're trying to use the phone while lying on the back (so another stab at my shows, though I hope it'll buff me up xD)
Edit: Also, I can't figure out why there's zero dev support (no custom ROMs)... I don't plan on rooting my phone or swapping ROMs yet, but I'd like to have the option to do so. Surprised that there isn't one right now.
Another Edit: Oh, and I absolutely can't figure out the hype with 120Hz... I tried it for a couple days, but found it hardly worth anything, especially with the phone incapable of putting out 120 fps on most proper games, the the only real benefit can be observed during scrolling at which point it becomes pointless, so I just turned it off for better battery/performance.
I just use 90Hz most of the time to get most of the benefits without the problems.
B20 is available if you get the 12GB model. There are no issues with it suddenly turning off.
Not a perfect phone but does everything that I want of it.
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I was trying to decide between the 7T and ROG 2 and went with ROG 2. Been using it for the past two months. One of the biggest issues I face is with the display, and had I known this before buying I wouldn't have picked this. It made me unable to watch my shows before sleeping, but hopefully this'll get fixed with Android 10.
Other problems include extremely slow software support (and with a high chance of 10 being the last version), minimal customisation options, and the weight. The weight becomes really noticeable and starts hurting your arms if you're trying to use the phone while lying on the back (so another stab at my shows, though I hope it'll buff me up xD)
Edit: Also, I can't figure out why there's zero dev support (no custom ROMs)... I don't plan on rooting my phone or swapping ROMs yet, but I'd like to have the option to do so. Surprised that there isn't one right now.
Another Edit: Oh, and I absolutely can't figure out the hype with 120Hz... I tried it for a couple days, but found it hardly worth anything, especially with the phone incapable of putting out 120 fps on most proper games, the the only real benefit can be observed during scrolling at which point it becomes pointless, so I just turned it off for better battery/performance.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I completely disagree, especially about 120 fps. I've noticed absolutely no difference in battery life by using 120 FPS vs 60 fps (I regularly get 11 to 13 hours of screen on time with general use on 120 fps) and now that I've used 120 fps on a phone I find 60 fps atrociously slow/laggy/choppy, especially during scrolling. It makes any device using 60fps feel horrible now. 120 fps is a massive improvement. Yes I'll agree not many games support 120 fps on Android yet, but the ones that do are so smooth.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I completely disagree, especially about 120 fps. I've noticed absolutely no difference in battery life by using 120 FPS vs 60 fps (I regularly get 11 to 13 hours of screen on time with general use on 120 fps) and now that I've used 120 fps on a phone I find 60 fps atrociously slow/laggy/choppy, especially during scrolling. It makes any device using 60fps feel horrible now. 120 fps is a massive improvement. Yes I'll agree not many games support 120 fps on Android yet, but the ones that do are so smooth.
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Well, the games I play hardly hit 60 fps at high settings at which point they start guzzling the battery and heat up the phone. As for the scrolling (as I've already mentioned), agreed, but I'm not in the habit of constantly scrolling at high speeds.
And to note, frame rate and refresh rate are different things. Frame rate is on the software front and refresh rate is on the hardware front. Both need to match for the best experience. You can use game genie to see the frame rate you're actually getting.
frozenfirevr said:
I was trying to decide between the 7T and ROG 2 and went with ROG 2. Been using it for the past two months. One of the biggest issues I face is with the display, and had I known this before buying I wouldn't have picked this. It made me unable to watch my shows before sleeping, but hopefully this'll get fixed with Android 10.
Other problems include extremely slow software support (and with a high chance of 10 being the last version), minimal customisation options, and the weight. The weight becomes really noticeable and starts hurting your arms if you're trying to use the phone while lying on the back (so another stab at my shows, though I hope it'll buff me up xD)
Edit: Also, I can't figure out why there's zero dev support (no custom ROMs)... I don't plan on rooting my phone or swapping ROMs yet, but I'd like to have the option to do so. Surprised that there isn't one right now.
Another Edit: Oh, and I absolutely can't figure out the hype with 120Hz... I tried it for a couple days, but found it hardly worth anything, especially with the phone incapable of putting out 120 fps on most proper games, the the only real benefit can be observed during scrolling at which point it becomes pointless, so I just turned it off for better battery/performance.
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If only we get a good custom kernel for Android 10. It should increase the performance to close the gap with SD865, i get around 516k in antutu, and I've seen the xaiomi mi 10 getting around 537k in a YouTube review. There's a chance to overclock this device because it has good cooling compared to my previous OnePlus 7 pro.
Anyways, custom roms are usually very buggy and stock rom isn't lacking in any way, it has everything you'll find in any custom rom, plus some features that might not fully work on custom roms.
And btw, i do not have that screen issue that you've mentioned above.. mine is 12/512 elite version.
It's the overall best android phone I've used so far, and I've been using it since October. Battery life is awesome ? even with x mode and 120hz both on all the time.
mohammed510 said:
And btw, i do not have that screen issue that you've mentioned above.. mine is 12/512 elite version.
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Wow! Really?! Geez, now I wonder if I should get a replacement...
But 10 pages of complaints, and their acknowledgement of the issue on Twitter...
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frozenfirevr said:
Wow! Really?! Geez, now I wonder if I should get a replacement...
But 10 pages of complaints, and their acknowledgement of the issue on Twitter...
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Seems like the Tencent version or the first version that came in July is the most affected by this issue than the second/elite version. But yes, my screen is fine.
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Seems like the Tencent version or the first version that came in July is the most affected by this issue than the second/elite version. But yes, my screen is fine.
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I'll be getting the 8gb 128gb global edition and hopefully it's not defect in any way! Should be better than my Xiaomi Mi 9T in any case lmao.
I have both rog 2 and 1+ 7T pro 5G.
I've used the 1+ for maybe a few hours total. Screen/battery life/ user experience feels better on my rog
stealthj said:
I have both rog 2 and 1+ 7T pro 5G.
I've used the 1+ for maybe a few hours total. Screen/battery life/ user experience feels better on my rog
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Good to know! Thanks!

is it still worth to buy in Sept./Oct. 2020?

I am looking for new phone from past 4 days and I am not able to find better option than this K20 Pro, due to sd855 present in it. For the price it's available right now I couldn't find another. My main priorities are:-
1) it should handle game fluently
2)good rear cameras (not for printing photos but uploading on instagram)
3)have a good community for custom rom development (this phone have that)
4)have decent battery backup as i am not going to game whole day but yeah approx. 2hrs game session
5)last but very important for me a HEADPHONE jack is a must thing.
I wanna ask is that, is it worth to buy this phone even when its 1year old. Also, I wanna know if there is an alternative to this phone or should I go with it without having any thought.
Earlier I considered realme x3 pro(due to sd855+ but there was no headphone jack, no custom roms) and ONeplus nord( i think it's overpriced and without headphone jack).
I am gonna use new phone for atleast 2yrs, so what are your thought about this phone? is it worth to buy or to wait to for another flagship killer(which is very hard to see in near future)?
prakharayush31 said:
I am looking for new phone from past 4 days and I am not able to find better option than this K20 Pro, due to sd855 present in it. For the price it's available right now I couldn't find another. My main priorities are:-
1) it should handle game fluently
2)good rear cameras (not for printing photos but uploading on instagram)
3)have a good community for custom rom development (this phone have that)
4)have decent battery backup as i am not going to game whole day but yeah approx. 2hrs game session
5)last but very important for me a HEADPHONE jack is a must thing.
I wanna ask is that, is it worth to buy this phone even when its 1year old. Also, I wanna know if there is an alternative to this phone or should I go with it without having any thought.
Earlier I considered realme x3 pro(due to sd855+ but there was no headphone jack, no custom roms) and ONeplus nord( i think it's overpriced and without headphone jack).
I am gonna use new phone for atleast 2yrs, so what are your thought about this phone? is it worth to buy or to wait to for another flagship killer(which is very hard to see in near future)?
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Don't think too much now, go for it. I had similar questions before buy it, but for me they were: no notch, fm radio, jack, custom roms, a fair battery (4000 is the minimum). I didn't care too much about the cpu but this one is a beast. The cameras are just fine since I'm not a photographer. The only con for me is not having an external sd card. The biggest pro for me is not having to look at a f#cking hole or notch. We already have an aosp 11 rom if you need it & we'll probably have some more android os versions. This phone is worth to buy & if you ask, I would bought it again without think twice.
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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First time I've heard of a 6.4" screen described as too small???
The aspect ratio is identical to almost all current phones, so it's certainly not narrow compared to anything else. The resolution of FHD+ is absolutely fine. The human eye cannot distinguish higher resolutions, at typical reading distances. This is why going to QHD is pointless and a waste of money.
Currently almost all phones with the SD865 and SD865+ have jumped in price by quite a margin over the previous SD855 phones. So this phone still represents very good value for money. It's certainly better value than the current SD7xx midrange phones, that are similar in price.
However the K30 Pro/POCO F2 Pro came with only a reasonably small increase in price, so is not much more expensive and is probably the best value SD865 phone currently available. This would be my choice if I was buying a 'budget flagship' today. If this is stretching the budget too much, then this (K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro) phone is definitely still worth buying.
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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Sorry to sound rude, but what the f*** are you talking about?? small screen??? quality not good??? Bro its 6.4" 1080p Super AMOLED panel! And android 11 is confirmed for this phone and we got 1 update to android 10 not 2. Do you even know what you are talking about??
I would absolutely recommend buying this phone.
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Sorry to sound rude, but what the f*** are you talking about?? small screen??? quality not good??? Bro its 6.4" 1080p Super AMOLED panel! And android 11 is confirmed for this phone and we got 1 update to android 10 not 2. Do you even know what you are talking about??
I would absolutely recommend buying this phone.
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Robbo.5000 said:
First time I've heard of a 6.4" screen described as too small???
The aspect ratio is identical to almost all current phones, so it's certainly not narrow compared to anything else. The resolution of FHD+ is absolutely fine. The human eye cannot distinguish higher resolutions, at typical reading distances. This is why going to QHD is pointless and a waste of money.
Currently almost all phones with the SD865 and SD865+ have jumped in price by quite a margin over the previous SD855 phones. So this phone still represents very good value for money. It's certainly better value than the current SD7xx midrange phones, that are similar in price.
However the K30 Pro/POCO F2 Pro came with only a reasonably small increase in price, so is not much more expensive and is probably the best value SD865 phone currently available. This would be my choice if I was buying a 'budget flagship' today. If this is stretching the budget too much, then this (K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro) phone is definitely still worth buying.
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yes dude I agree with you K30 Pro came with reasonably small price increase, but it's not available in India. If it was launched here I would definitely go for K30 Pro, that is why I was considering this K20 Pro. Well thanks for the help bro I got my answer. Going to get this phone on upcoming sales with exchange and bank offers.
bilal.fanatic said:
Sorry to sound rude, but what the f*** are you talking about?? small screen??? quality not good??? Bro its 6.4" 1080p Super AMOLED panel! And android 11 is confirmed for this phone and we got 1 update to android 10 not 2. Do you even know what you are talking about??
I would absolutely recommend buying this phone.
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yeah 6.4 is sufficient for me, and now I have decided, I am gonna buy this phone in exchange of my very old Moto G turbo. Thanks a lot bro for giving advice about this device
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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worth considering you points bro that you told, but I think it's gonna a huge upgrade for me as I will be switching from my Samsung Galaxy S7. May be screen quality will not be that good compared to samsung, but I currently I use my device on 720p to reduce battery drain.:good:
bro can you tell how are the pictures captured with google camera mod is? (compared to stock camera)
mauam said:
Don't think too much now, go for it. I had similar questions before buy it, but for me they were: no notch, fm radio, jack, custom roms, a fair battery (4000 is the minimum). I didn't care too much about the cpu but this one is a beast. The cameras are just fine since I'm not a photographer. The only con for me is not having an external sd card. The biggest pro for me is not having to look at a f#cking hole or notch. We already have an aosp 11 rom if you need it & we'll probably have some more android os versions. This phone is worth to buy & if you ask, I would bought it again without think twice.
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thanks for the help bro.
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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What you are talking about are phones from 2025. The K20P/Mi 9T Pro is an amazing phone. The screen is actually quite large, but not oversized (the phone's dimensions are about as equal to the OnePlus 3). The bezels are thin enough to not be annoying, but not too thin for you to accidentally press the screen while holding it (looking at you, Samsung phones with edge display. Even though there's a rejection algorithm in place to solve this).
The battery life is decent with 4Ah, but we already see that the next-gen phones have a capacity of 4.5Ah to 5Ah. 4Ah is still enough to last a day, the problem I face with MIUI is that idle drain is a lot.
The 1080x2340 screen is pretty good, especially in terms of PPI (I mean, you shouldn't complain if you compare this to your desktop monitor, laptop, or television). Color space is also pretty good with D3 color space when you use the "warm" preset.
The main rear camera is superior (IMX586) and gcam modders are busy with unlocking the full potential of the sensor by modifying the driver.
The only thing you are correct about is the support from Xiaomi (or should I say, Xiaomeme), with not only lack of updates, but lack of security updates. The latest MIUI 12 EEA v12.0.2.0 rom came with a 1-month outdated security patch. It's a shame to see that they simply don't care about their flagship phones, or they have too many devices and rom variants to maintain, so they rather focus on the China beta roms and push completed changes over to stable Global, EEA, CN, RU and IN.
If you have no issues with MIUI (MIUI 12 is actually pretty good, I prefer it over stock android, because of the split notifications), I'd suggest staying on it till Xiaomi decides to end the support and then switch to a custom rom.
Go for it, good phone overall no notch and cheap.

General Snapdragon 888 vs Exynos 2100 after latest updates

I know there are already a few threads for the same discussion ,
But I am making this thread for a healthy discussion on what's better between Snapdragon 888 and Exynos 2100 after the latest software updates for both models .
There are youtube reviews that are contradictory to each other
1) Mrwhosetheboss says Snapdragon is way better and Exynos is heating like crazy.
Also in camera sd>exynos
2) The tech chap on the other hand says Exynos to be faster and cooler .
Let's discuss
I am planning to buy the s21 ultra over the OnePlus 9 pro just because I am getting it at the same price as OnePlus 9 pro ,
Also the software on OnePlus is always going to be buggy and an update to fix one issue will create more bugs .
aj7400 said:
I know there are already a few threads for the same discussion ,
But I am making this thread for a healthy discussion on what's better between Snapdragon 888 and Exynos 2100 after the latest software updates for both models .
There are youtube reviews that are contradictory to each other
1) Mrwhosetheboss says Snapdragon is way better and Exynos is heating like crazy.
Also in camera sd>exynos
2) The tech chap on the other hand says Exynos to be faster and cooler .
Let's discuss
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After my experience with the Exynos, I'm far more inclined to believe the Tech Chap. I've had no issues with thermal throttling, and my phone sits most of the time at between 28 and 32 degrees when being used under normal circumstances (browsing, light camera use etc). I've also run the benchmarks he ran and got pretty much the same results. I'm very happy with it.
I strongly suspect that boss geezer just had bad luck and picked up an Exynos model with a bad SOC. The difference between the two is he didn't buy another to rule that out.
Beefheart said:
After my experience with the Exynos, I'm far more inclined to believe the Tech Chap. I've had no issues with thermal throttling, and my phone sits most of the time at between 28 and 32 degrees when being used under normal circumstances (browsing, light camera use etc). I've also run the benchmarks he ran and got pretty much the same results. I'm very happy with it.
I strongly suspect that boss geezer just had bad luck and picked up an Exynos model with a bad SOC. The difference between the two is he didn't buy another to rule that out.
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What's the ambient temperature in your area?
aj7400 said:
What's the ambient temperature in your area?
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Like both Youtubers in this thread, I'm in England so it's not hot at the moment.
Ambient temp makes a difference, but my experience of mobile phones in the UK over the last 25+ years, not massively so.
Beefheart said:
Like both Youtubers in this thread, I'm in England so it's not hot at the moment.
Ambient temp makes a difference, but my experience of mobile phones in the UK over the last 25+ years, not massively so.
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I live in a area where the temperatures are like 40°C for like 8 months and 10°C for 4 months ..
At 40°C ambient temps even apple iphones break their sweat and throttle.
aj7400 said:
I live in a area where the temperatures are like 40°C for like 8 months and 10°C for 4 months ..
At 40°C ambient temps even apple iphones break their sweat and throttle.
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You say even Apple iPhones but they're dogs**t when it comes to thermal dissipation, in particular the more recent ones.
All I can say is that this phone is no worse than any others I've had when it comes to thermals, and seems to be better than most of them.
After I contemplated a lot, I went for it and purchased the EXYNOS version as I live in Europe and the Snapdragon seems to be Single SIM, so no point ordering it from Amazon.
Mrwhostheboss either had a faulty unit or at the time of his video, the update he put wasn't enough to fix the software issues.
Mine works fine, no overheating (gets a bit warm when doing heavier tasks, ~22c ambient room temps), no camera problems or glitches, all seems good. The camera quality is pretty fine too, although it did definitely improve further after I installed the last update. When I tested the camera out of the box, it was all weird.
Battery life for me is quite fine as well. At the time of writing this message I got SOT 1h45m and battery is at 78%. Plenty of apps installed, Dual SIMs active. AOD active.
I also have the Dr. Ketan ROM with root, AFWall and etc. So I slightly debloated the useless stuff.
I am satisfied with the EXYNOS, and although I have no way to test them next to each other, I'm sure that If the SNAP is better in some ways, it is NOT in others, like NO DUAL SIM.... And for sure if there is anything left to fix on the EXYNOS, they will fix it with the upcoming updates.
But again, if you buy an EXYNOS, make sure you do it right. Start it, install all your apps, make sure you update it to the latest firmware version and then start testing it. If it has problems, factory reset it and return it for a new one.
Good luck!!!
babyboy3265 said:
After I contemplated a lot, I went for it and purchased the EXYNOS version as I live in Europe and the Snapdragon seems to be Single SIM, so no point ordering it from Amazon.
Mrwhostheboss either had a faulty unit or at the time of his video, the update he put wasn't enough to fix the software issues.
Mine works fine, no overheating (gets a bit warm when doing heavier tasks, ~22c ambient room temps), no camera problems or glitches, all seems good. The camera quality is pretty fine too, although it did definitely improve further after I installed the last update. When I tested the camera out of the box, it was all weird.
Battery life for me is quite fine as well. At the time of writing this message I got SOT 1h45m and battery is at 78%. Plenty of apps installed, Dual SIMs active. AOD active.
I also have the Dr. Ketan ROM with root, AFWall and etc. So I slightly debloated the useless stuff.
I am satisfied with the EXYNOS, and although I have no way to test them next to each other, I'm sure that If the SNAP is better in some ways, it is NOT in others, like NO DUAL SIM.... And for sure if there is anything left to fix on the EXYNOS, they will fix it with the upcoming updates.
But again, if you buy an EXYNOS, make sure you do it right. Start it, install all your apps, make sure you update it to the latest firmware version and then start testing it. If it has problems, factory reset it and return it for a new one.
Good luck!!!
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In india there is nothing as return ..
Once paid the device is yours till it has some major issues and they are just repaired ,
Unfortunately We cannot return it for a refund here in india .
That is why thinking twice before buying .
I have no overheating problems with my Exynos unit. Phone idles at around 25-30degC.
Yo bro,
Listen, avoid YouTube reviews. Bro these ppl are just benefiting from these kindda arguments and stuff.
I had the s21 ultra 512 and i sold it coz i have literally watched every single review out there and was too worried i might have been scammed or made the wrong choice.
After talking to some ppl here i bought it again and this time i made sure i cleared my search history lol and never ever to watch a thing.
It is not SD888 but it is close, it has good battery, cameras are barely any difference between them. If you game a lot you should really just buy a different phone just for gaming.
The screen is phenomenal.
Bro i live in Kuwait, temps here reach 55°....until now i have not experienced any extreme heating issues.
My advice to you, don't listen to anything, the device is amazing...yes it lacks behind the SD888 but for me it's the better pick.. i get warranty for a year and a trade on later or i can even sell it and not lose while the imported is basically non sellable here.
So weigh things out and decide, once you decide do not regret. Do not hesitate it's just a phone, if you have a slight doubt avoid it and wait for a different phone.
Goodluck.
aj7400 said:
I know there are already a few threads for the same discussion ,
But I am making this thread for a healthy discussion on what's better between Snapdragon 888 and Exynos 2100 after the latest software updates for both models .
There are youtube reviews that are contradictory to each other
1) Mrwhosetheboss says Snapdragon is way better and Exynos is heating like crazy.
Also in camera sd>exynos
2) The tech chap on the other hand says Exynos to be faster and cooler .
Let's discuss
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Camera has improved on the exynos with updates, personally I still feel low light video and photos are just ok, but anything in decent light is great, and I don't have anything other than a pixel 3 to compare to, so not a fair fight as the camera tech on that is old.
In regards to the video, mr whos the boss was using antutu for temperatures and it's well known that at that time it couldn't read exynos temps properly. When I had antutu, it showed around 40 degrees, but CPU monitor was around 25 degrees
I've got the exynos and had no real issues to date, battery life is sometimes great, sometime ok, but more than enough to do me from morning to night with my usage. Other than that can't complain at all
Should wait for the xiaomi's launch today?
mtm1401 said:
Camera has improved on the exynos with updates, personally I still feel low light video and photos are just ok, but anything in decent light is great, and I don't have anything other than a pixel 3 to compare to, so not a fair fight as the camera tech on that is old.
In regards to the video, mr whos the boss was using antutu for temperatures and it's well known that at that time it couldn't read exynos temps properly. When I had antutu, it showed around 40 degrees, but CPU monitor was around 25 degrees
I've got the exynos and had no real issues to date, battery life is sometimes great, sometime ok, but more than enough to do me from morning to night with my usage. Other than that can't complain at all
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Berserker900 said:
Yo bro,
Listen, avoid YouTube reviews. Bro these ppl are just benefiting from these kindda arguments and stuff.
I had the s21 ultra 512 and i sold it coz i have literally watched every single review out there and was too worried i might have been scammed or made the wrong choice.
After talking to some ppl here i bought it again and this time i made sure i cleared my search history lol and never ever to watch a thing.
It is not SD888 but it is close, it has good battery, cameras are barely any difference between them. If you game a lot you should really just buy a different phone just for gaming.
The screen is phenomenal.
Bro i live in Kuwait, temps here reach 55°....until now i have not experienced any extreme heating issues.
My advice to you, don't listen to anything, the device is amazing...yes it lacks behind the SD888 but for me it's the better pick.. i get warranty for a year and a trade on later or i can even sell it and not lose while the imported is basically non sellable here.
So weigh things out and decide, once you decide do not regret. Do not hesitate it's just a phone, if you have a slight doubt avoid it and wait for a different phone.
Goodluck.
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Camera has improved on the exynos with updates, personally I still feel low light video and photos are just ok, but anything in decent light is great, and I don't have anything other than a pixel 3 to compare to, so not a fair fight as the camera tech on that is old.
In regards to the video, mr whos the boss was using antutu for temperatures and it's well known that at that time it couldn't read exynos temps properly. When I had antutu, it showed around 40 degrees, but CPU monitor was around 25 degrees
I've got the exynos and had no real issues to date, battery life is sometimes great, sometime ok, but more than enough to do me from morning to night with my usage. Other than that can't complain at all
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That temp thing with Antutu makes sense, I was worried when I first got my phone as it was listing my CPU temperature in the low 50s but then I installed CPU Monitor and it showed it was around 30 degrees. Maybe MrWhosTheBoss should have done a bit more research.
It's funny reading the comments on that video. Thousands of people talking about the S21 Ultra being rubbish on Exynos without having the first clue what they're talking about. It goes to show how a badly made video can really effect how a phone is perceived.
Beefheart said:
That temp thing with Antutu makes sense, I was worried when I first got my phone as it was listing my CPU temperature in the low 50s but then I installed CPU Monitor and it showed it was around 30 degrees. Maybe MrWhosTheBoss should have done a bit more research.
It's funny reading the comments on that video. Thousands of people talking about the S21 Ultra being rubbish on Exynos without having the first clue what they're talking about. It goes to show how a badly made video can really effect how a phone is perceived.
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Exactly and there is me researching this from a week before buying it .
Also tried to stress the camera on the demo unit at a samsung store , but it was warm to touch but not at all hot ..
By the way , as OnePlus markets their 9 pro with 5 layer cooling system , how's the cooling on s21 ultra?
JerryRigEverything did a teardown, but it's the SD varient. I'm not sure if the cooling solution on Exynos differs.
aj7400 said:
Exactly and there is me researching this from a week before buying it .
Also tried to stress the camera on the demo unit at a samsung store , but it was warm to touch but not at all hot ..
By the way , as OnePlus markets their 9 pro with 5 layer cooling system , how's the cooling on s21 ultra?
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The Samsung is much more aggressive with its thermal throttling than the mi 11 (A good thing or a bad thing depending on what you want in a phone), don't know about the oneplus or how effective it's cooling system actually is (could just be a gimmick/branding, but I don't know).
I would say from what I've seen, s21u has better battery, genuine adaptive refresh, marginally photos cameras but much more versatile camera array, better software.
Mi11 better charging and sustained gaming
Early oneplus reviews have middling battery life, but an educated guess that they haven't enabled the variable refresh yet on the pro, as it seems to last the same amount of time as the base model.
In all honesty, if you aren't sure, wait a month or so for the 'long term' reviews, then you will get a better idea of the final product
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The Samsung is much more aggressive with its thermal throttling than the mi 11 (A good thing or a bad thing depending on what you want in a phone), don't know about the oneplus or how effective it's cooling system actually is (could just be a gimmick/branding, but I don't know).
I would say from what I've seen, s21u has better battery, genuine adaptive refresh, marginally photos cameras but much more versatile camera array, better software.
Mi11 better charging and sustained gaming
Early oneplus reviews have middling battery life, but an educated guess that they haven't enabled the variable refresh yet on the pro, as it seems to last the same amount of time as the base model.
In all honesty, if you aren't sure, wait a month or so for the 'long term' reviews, then you will get a better idea of the final product
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I am getting the s21 u e2100 today .. let's hope I get a good silicon compared to what some people have got
I seriously have a feeling that both versions of the phone are nearly identical in performance and camera quality. The primary reason why we see so many threads regarding heat issues, app crash issues or battery issues are not necessarily due to the versions of the phone that are being used (Exynos or Snapdragon)... But instead, I think that this is mainly due to the fact that a lot of Samsung's phone sales are to people who aren't very tech friendly....at all...
I mean, think of Apple's iPhone market. What percentage of their customers are tech geniuses who know everything about complete device care and optimization? I'd say, near me in the US, maybe about 3-5% of their customers... And with that said, you have to keep in mind that Samsung is the most Apple equivalent company in sales numbers for Android devices in the US. So probably only about 1-2% of their phone customers actually know what the heck they're doing.
So (internally thought lol) truth be told, I don't think one variant is better than the other. I just think that we need to keep in mind the fact that the Samsung phone market is packed to the gills with customers who don't know much at all regarding the technology that's used or how it works/can be optimized or made better. Luckily for us on this particular thread, we probably don't run into the aforementioned issues as we're likely all people who actually know how to use, care for and optimize a damn smart phone lol.
Side note: this was a long comment, so my apologies.
*Edit* - To respond to @aj7400 without wasting more post space :
The US isn't really a particularly cold area. It's just a much bigger area. So there are certainly some states where the temperature stays cold for a while... But there are tons of other places where it stays over 23°C all year round (and a few states where it stays above 33°C all year). So overall, I still believe that these issues are just coming up due to a severe lack of knowledge =(. But the good thing for you is that you actually appear to know what the deal is, hence why you're here on XDA. Thanks for being here =). But ya see what I mean? You were aware of the slightly warmer temperature of the S21U and you were aware of the fact that you live in a hot area. Therefore, you're not constantly complaining about the phone being borked out of the box, but instead, you're looking for potential solutions. Kudos!
NippleSauce said:
I seriously have a feeling that both versions of the phone are nearly identical in performance and camera quality. The primary reason why we see so many threads regarding heat issues, app crash issues or battery issues are not necessarily due to the versions of the phone that are being used (Exynos or Snapdragon)... But instead, I think that this is mainly due to the fact that a lot of Samsung's phone sales are to people who aren't very tech friendly....at all...
I mean, think of Apple's iPhone market. What percentage of their customers are tech geniuses who know everything about complete device care and optimization? I'd say, near me in the US, maybe about 3-5% of their customers... And with that said, you have to keep in mind that Samsung is the most Apple equivalent company in sales numbers for Android devices in the US. So probably only about 1-2% of their phone customers actually know what the heck they're doing.
So (internally thought lol) truth be told, I don't think one variant is better than the other. I just think that we need to keep in mind the fact that the Samsung phone market is packed to the gills with customers who don't know much at all regarding the technology that's used or how it works/can be optimized or made better.
Side note: this was a long comment, so my apologies.
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That's allright ,
But imo apple is from day 1 producing good chips and their optimization is top notch ,
And samsung in US is just offering Snapdragon .
That's the main reason people are not complaining about both , and they don't care what are the specs in their phone .
Also US is a relatively cold area so not much is going around throttling issues .
I live in india where highest temps reach 45°C , where the real problem of thermal throttling arise .
So I care much about these things .

Question S21 Ultra or Pixel 6 Pro

I'm debating for weeks now on which phone to upgrade my small Pixel 2. I love its camera but battery life sucks, even after replacing the battery.
I am able to buy a new Samsung S21 Ultra for 720 euros or try to import the new Pixel 6 Pro for 900 euros.
Which one would you choose and why?
Cheers
Personally I'd stick with the s21 ultra. If the pixel was a massive jump I might of swapped over but it's not great, battery is a bit rubbish. It's just ok...I think the s21 wins in more ways. Id like stock android though for sure
I would stay with the S21, other than stock android and a few software tricks it beats the Pixel 6 Pro hands down.
S21 Ultra any day...
Or the Pixel 6 if you are not into photography and don't need the extra 4x optical zoom of the Pro
Badelhas said:
I'm debating for weeks now on which phone to upgrade my small Pixel 2. I love its camera but battery life sucks, even after replacing the battery.
I am able to buy a new Samsung S21 Ultra for 720 euros or try to import the new Pixel 6 Pro for 900 euros.
Which one would you choose and why?
Cheers
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S21 Ultra (snapdragon) with Gcam. Best of both worlds for me.
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S21 Ultra any day...
Or the Pixel 6 if you are not into photography and don't need the extra 4x optical zoom of the Pro
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I'm into photography. Love the Oppo Reno 10x Zoom that that I won on a giveaway 2 years ago and gave to my wife (features that she doesn't use, tbh).
But I've read that the S21 Ultra is terrible taking pictures for moving stuff because of the shutter lag. Is this true?
Where I live I can't get the snapdragon version, unfortunately.
Thank you all for your opinions.
I had the Pixel 3 XL then Pixel 4 XL because Google kept showing off great features that were eventually only released in the U.S. Call screening, call waiting, even certain features of Google Photos. They are doing that same bull**** about the Pixel 6 chip is needed for the eraser feature, yet the feature has been proven to work on older Pixels. They excel in camera/photos and new features but fail to deliver a whole package when it comes to phones. And they are the best in class for bait and switch tactics with their phones. As I mentioned, I got the Pixel 2 for call screening, and then they dropped the bombshell coming soon outside the U.S. The same with the Pixel 4, it's coming soon so I stayed with them. Now nearly 4 years later the feature has arrived, I gave up waiting.
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I had the Pixel 3 XL then Pixel 4 XL because Google kept showing off great features that were eventually only released in the U.S. Call screening, call waiting, even certain features of Google Photos. They are doing that same bull**** about the Pixel 6 chip is needed for the eraser feature, yet the feature has been proven to work on older Pixels. They excel in camera/photos and new features but fail to deliver a whole package when it comes to phones. And they are the best in class for bait and switch tactics with their phones. As I mentioned, I got the Pixel 2 for call screening, and then they dropped the bombshell coming soon outside the U.S. The same with the Pixel 4, it's coming soon so I stayed with them. Now nearly 4 years later the feature has arrived, I gave up waiting.
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Yeah, your right, most of the smart features they announced don't even work in Portugal, where I live. Some of them can work in the future but who knows. Which phone do you own now? Are you thinking about switching? If you were me: Samsung S21 Ultra for 720 euros or Pixel 6 Pro for 900 euros?
Cheers
Badelhas said:
Yeah, your right, most of the smart features they announced don't even work in Portugal, where I live. Some of them can work in the future but who knows. Which phone do you own now? Are you thinking about switching? If you were me: Samsung S21 Ultra for 720 euros or Pixel 6 Pro for 900 euros?
Cheers
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I have the S21 Ultra. Switched after getting sold a lie by Google too often. Even the photos "free pixel" storage was removed for older Pixels. Classic a bit and switches as per Google One is now a must-have for Pixel owners.
Now they are selling a 30W fast charger with claims the Pixel 6 supports it, but again lies and false claims.
Pixel 6 devices don’t really charge at 30W speeds
One of the selling points that Google is pushing about its Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro is that it has fast-charging capabilities. While they don’t actually include a fast charger when you buy the…
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lywyn said:
I have the S21 Ultra. Switched after getting sold a lie by Google too often. Even the photos "free pixel" storage was removed for older Pixels. Classic a bit and switches as per Google One is now a must-have for Pixel owners.
Now they are selling a 30W fast charger with claims the Pixel 6 supports it, but again lies and false claims.
Pixel 6 devices don’t really charge at 30W speeds
One of the selling points that Google is pushing about its Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro is that it has fast-charging capabilities. While they don’t actually include a fast charger when you buy the…
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I know. And they claim that the fingerprint reader is slow for security reasons. lol.
So you are happy with your S21 Ultra? What were the downsides and upsides from switching from stock android from your old Pixel?
Cheers
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I know. And they claim that the fingerprint reader is slow for security reasons. lol.
So you are happy with your S21 Ultra? What were the downsides and upsides from switching from stock android from your old Pixel?
Cheers
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They integrate more with Google, supporting Google Messages, Photos, Discovery, etc. But the are still niggles that I've had to get used to. The biggest annoyance is Samsung making screenshots part of the photos/camera storage folder so they are included in Google Photos backups. I am moving off Google services bit by bit due to them just cancelling things or removing free from things. You can use Android gestures for navigation so the switch was easier than I thought it would be. Everything Samsung say the phone can do it does and that is better than Google ever claimed.
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Personally I'd stick with the s21 ultra. If the pixel was a massive jump I might of swapped over but it's not great, battery is a bit rubbish. It's just ok...I think the s21 wins in more ways. Id like stock android though for su
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I know. And they claim that the fingerprint reader is slow for security reasons. lol.
So you are happy with your S21 Ultra? What were the downsides and upsides from switching from stock android from your old Pixel?
Cheers
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I do not understand this question, it's basically lacking any base knowledge of how Android works?
"What were the downsides and upsides from switching from stock android from your old Pixel?"
Load or remove what you use or do not use, it's no different. The only thing is Samsung makes some cool APPS, that you can use if you like. Just like you can go with third party APPS from the Galaxy Store or Play Store. Running plan-jane Android is no longer some great thing. Wake UP!
I think many stock android comments go back to the day that touchwiz and other variants were awful.
That being said development wise you get a lot more than on the s21. Updates for longer also.
As I said though this alone isn't enough to rock a pixel
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I think many stock android comments go back to the day that touchwiz and other variants were awful.
That being said development wise you get a lot more than on the s21. Updates for longer also.
As I said though this alone isn't enough to rock a pixel
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Maybe that's why I didn't get the question, I was thinking stock, and now you bring up launchers. All good, hey can't we just download and use google's launcher now anyway, on any Android? For me, thinking stock smooth, is just no longer a thing, it was, a while back, because of bloat and slow down, but today, there really is no such things, all these upper end phones are smooth as butter. BTW, I do switch and use Nova Launcher always.
S21 Ultra Pros:
- Feels more premium. Pixel 6 Pro and the iPhone 13 sound plasticy or hollow when tapped. The s21 ultra absorbs the touch. It's something you have to feel, but it's definitely noticeable.
- 10x Zoom. Wow. This is the only way the camera wins, but it's nice.
- Screen. I had a P6P and the screen is noticeably brighter, and adjusts to the lighting so much faster on the S21 Ultra. I can't believe how long it was taking the P6P to adjust.
- Way less Jank and is faster. The P6P had issues hanging when scrolling in apps. Nothing like this on the S21U
- FP Sensor. The fingerprint sensor is much faster on the S21U
- Heat. My S21U running games doesn't get noticeably hot, the P6P does.
- Battery life. My battery on my S21U has been better overall, but I don't know if that's due to only having the pixel for a little over a week.
Pixel 6 Pro Pros:
- Camera. Camera wins in every way besides the 10x. Samsung over smooths faces or something. It's ridiculous how good the hardware is and how bad the processing is on the S21U
- AOD. The always on display turns off in your pocket. No idea why Samsung took this option away.
Other Notes:
- I've heard the haptics are better on P6P, but I think both are great.
- I've also heard that the P6P has an older modem, but I did not notice any slower loading while on cellular in my testing.
- The charging time is reported to be better on the P6P, but in my testing they were similar.
I went back to the S21U. I just didn't think there were any upgrades that made it worth choosing the Pixel over the S21U as the S21U is better in almost every way.
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S21 Ultra Pros:
- Feels more premium. Pixel 6 Pro and the iPhone 13 sound plasticy or hollow when tapped. The s21 ultra absorbs the touch. It's something you have to feel, but it's definitely noticeable.
- 10x Zoom. Wow. This is the only way the camera wins, but it's nice.
- Screen. I had a P6P and the screen is noticeably brighter, and adjusts to the lighting so much faster on the S21 Ultra. I can't believe how long it was taking the P6P to adjust.
- Way less Jank and is faster. The P6P had issues hanging when scrolling in apps. Nothing like this on the S21U
- FP Sensor. The fingerprint sensor is much faster on the S21U
- Heat. My S21U running games doesn't get noticeably hot, the P6P does.
- Battery life. My battery on my S21U has been better overall, but I don't know if that's due to only having the pixel for a little over a week.
Pixel 6 Pro Pros:
- Camera. Camera wins in every way besides the 10x. Samsung over smooths faces or something. It's ridiculous how good the hardware is and how bad the processing is on the S21U
- AOD. The always on display turns off in your pocket. No idea why Samsung took this option away.
Other Notes:
- I've heard the haptics are better on P6P, but I think both are great.
- I've also heard that the P6P has an older modem, but I did not notice any slower loading while on cellular in my testing.
- The charging time is reported to be better on the P6P, but in my testing they were similar.
I went back to the S21U. I just didn't think there were any upgrades that made it worth choosing the Pixel over the S21U as the S21U is better in almost every way.
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Thanks for the comparison and tour inputs. I are almost decided to go with the S21 Ultra. I love the point and shoot great pictures that I get on my Pixel 2 but I guess the S21 Ultra photos are good as well, from the reviews I´ve seen...
Cheers
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Personally I'd stick with the s21 ultra. If the pixel was a massive jump I might of swapped over but it's not great, battery is a bit rubbish. It's just ok...I think the s21 wins in more ways. Id like stock android though for sure
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Hmmmm.This is false. I own both devices. The battery appeared rubbish first couple of days. Due to Google's amazing adaptive battery, I'm getting around 10:16 min-ishscreen on time. That Tensor AI is the real deal. I continually become more more impressed as I noticed the device getting better and learning.
The smart features in the pixel 6 pro alone makes it worth it. I typed this entire message by voice, without touching the keyboard at all. The AI automatically inserted all the punctuation and deep learned the grammar checking all on it's own.
I think people underestimate how good pixels improve over time with Google magic.
The other smart features are incredibly convenient, intuitive and without getting too hyperbolic, amazing. Live translate allows you to literally translate anything anytime, anywhere with your keyboard or microphone. Being able to see hold times when you call ridiculous companies like insurance companies is downright cool. I recently got into a car accident and been having to call Geico repeatedly. One hour hold times. I'm able to see when those hold times. As soon as i preemptively see the call volume subside throughout the day, this allows me to make the perfectly timed pinpointed call. Call screening is amazing too. Telemarketers and Scam callers get tea bagged. Not even to mention live caption...
The smoothness and raw ui usage speed is slightly better than my s21 ultra.
The six pro screen is the clearest most beautiful screen I've ever seen on a smartphone. All videos and anything other than websites actually look like beautiful web pages with perfect clarity.
Additionally, The six Pro has just been released. Like literally just released. It's had only one day one update. As amazing as the 6 pro is, it'll even get dramatically better than it is now -- in the next couple months, with those updates. People forget how crappy the s21 Ultra or the 9 Pro software was on day one.
Don't get me wrong. I adore my s21 ultra. But my carefully calibrated and monitored opinion is the Pixel 6 Pro is better.
Now, if we're talking the s22 Ultra compared to the pixel 6 Pro, now we have legitimate conversation.
S21 ultra. the pixel 6 pro is hyperthetic
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Hmmmm.This is false. I own both devices. The battery appeared rubbish first couple of days. Due to Google's amazing adaptive battery, I'm getting around 10:16 min-ishscreen on time. That Tensor AI is the real deal. I continually become more more impressed as I noticed the device getting better and learning.
The smart features in the pixel 6 pro alone makes it worth it. I typed this entire message by voice, without touching the keyboard at all. The AI automatically inserted all the punctuation and deep learned the grammar checking all on it's own.
I think people underestimate how good pixels improve over time with Google magic.
The other smart features are incredibly convenient, intuitive and without getting too hyperbolic, amazing. Live translate allows you to literally translate anything anytime, anywhere with your keyboard or microphone. Being able to see hold times when you call ridiculous companies like insurance companies is downright cool. I recently got into a car accident and been having to call Geico repeatedly. One hour hold times. I'm able to see when those hold times. As soon as i preemptively see the call volume subside throughout the day, this allows me to make the perfectly timed pinpointed call. Call screening is amazing too. Telemarketers and Scam callers get tea bagged. Not even to mention live caption...
The smoothness and raw ui usage speed is slightly better than my s21 ultra.
The six pro screen is the clearest most beautiful screen I've ever seen on a smartphone. All videos and anything other than websites actually look like beautiful web pages with perfect clarity.
Additionally, The six Pro has just been released. Like literally just released. It's had only one day one update. As amazing as the 6 pro is, it'll even get dramatically better than it is now -- in the next couple months, with those updates. People forget how crappy the s21 Ultra or the 9 Pro software was on day one.
Don't get me wrong. I adore my s21 ultra. But my carefully calibrated and monitored opinion is the Pixel 6 Pro is better.
Now, if we're talking the s22 Ultra compared to the pixel 6 Pro, now we have legitimate conversation.
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Yeah but I live in Portugal. Besides the fact that I have to import it from France or Germany none of those smart features you mentioned work in my language/country. Samsung doesn't make it those distinctions and their hardware is supported and sold all over the world.
Badelhas said:
I'm debating for weeks now on which phone to upgrade my small Pixel 2. I love its camera but battery life sucks, even after replacing the battery.
I am able to buy a new Samsung S21 Ultra for 720 euros or try to import the new Pixel 6 Pro for 900 euros.
Which one would you choose and why?
Cheers
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I bought both of these because I couldn't make up my mind. It was a very hard choice but I plan to return the Pixel 6 Pro for a refund and keep the S21 Ultra.
The software on the Pixel seems buggier. There have been a few times while using the browser that it just straight locked up. Mostly while browsing XDA. Stock Android is also very meh to me.
After using both for only a week I've noticed the camera is only marginally better on the pixel if you aren't doing any zoom shots. If you're zooming at all, it's not that great. I took a bunch of photos with both phones and both consistently looked really good.
The pixel is easier to hold in the hand and I think it feels a little bit more premium than the S21 Ultra.
I think the S21 Ultra may be better for battery.
Odd that the price difference is like that. Here in the states, the S21 Ultra is like $300 more than the pixel 6 pro.

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