The still under heavy development MotionCam enables the ZTE Axon 30 Ultra to capture RAW video in form of CinemaDNG.
This is virtually a sequence of DNG frames with a seperate audio track generated by the app.
The app allows cropping from the full resolution of the sensor (but no scaling) so that you can create content that the free version of DaVinci Resolve is able to process.
The app detects all of the camera modules on the back.
During capture tha app stores the data in a container. From within the app the DNG sequence can be exported from each container.
In DaVinci Resolve you can simply add the complete folder to the timline and apply any grading there like on any other video clip except there is so much more range for processing without the result falling apart.
Besides the ablity to capture RAW video there ist also the opportunity to create naturally looking JPEG images on each of the modules on the ZTE Axon 30 Ultra. An option to store DNGs is there as well. Also an interesting burst mode that captures a rapid sequence of images that can than be used in the app to create a single output image where you can control the settings in a wide variety of parameters. The app provides a night mode on all the camera modules as well. Maybe not as perfect as on the GCam but good enough.
A sample of the output from the main camera on YouTube
Original HEVC (H.265) clip on OneDrive for download
A sample of the output from the 35mm equivalent module on YouTube
Original HEVC (H.265) clip from the 35mm equivalent on OneDrive for download
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I took a ton of pictures, and compared many with S7. S10 is always super clean and smooth, without any noise, every picture size ranges from 1.3mb to 5mb tops. While S7 retains some noise in the blue skys, and can be edited after, the S10 one has macro-blocking from the start, and when I try to edit them a little, all sorts of artifacts start to pop up, like banding, it looks like 256 colored gif sometimes. I feel like when S10 processes and saves jpegs, it applys something like noise reduction 70/100, jpeg quality 60/100, if compared to Lightroom settings.
Samsung compress jpegs too much, the average jpeg out of the phone is about 2-3 mb, while jpeg converted from raw using Lightroom mobile is 6mb!
There is a new custom rom with modded camera app to get 100% jpeg
I noticed that too. Is it possible to change compression ratio on stock rom?
Nop
Unless you install a third party camera app with jpeg compression control.
If you want to use stock camera then take your photos in raw, you can edit them calmly in any raw editor
Thanks for the answer! Can You, please, recommend any third party camera app? Good RAW editor for Android would be helpful information too.
martolk said:
Thanks for the answer! Can You, please, recommend any third party camera app? Good RAW editor for Android would be helpful information too.
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Good RAW editor for Android : Snapseed.
You also got Adobe Lightroom, but it is not for free.
Hello,
Sum up
I'm looking for a good way to record 4K 60 FPS with an external microphone, and possibly using any camera of the phone.
Why
I'm trying to find a convenient way to record good quality videos with speaking subjects (interviews and such) on the phone.
I aim the best possible quality for comfort and durability. I am therefore trying to film 4K 60 FPS with an external Lavalier microphone plugged in the jack port of the phone. (I'm also using a gimbal and stands depending on the context).
I also want to sometimes use the main camera, and sometimes the wide angle lens.
Phone
I'm using a stock ROM Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro (8GB RAM/256GB Storage, Global version).
Issues
As simple as it seems, I'm encountering a few issues/limitations.
Default video app :
- doesn't seem to take an external microphone
- has mediocre but OK audio compression quality
- has an 8 minutes limit when filming 4K 60 FPS (don't know about other formats).
(My 8 minutes 4K 60 FPS video is 2.2GB, so it doesn't seem to be a file size limit)
- and it's also the only one that seems to support video recording with any lens/camera on the phone...
I'm willing to sacrifice on audio quality if someone can think of a way to use an external mic, and get rid of that 8 minutes time limitation with the default camera app.
Issues with other apps
I've tried a lot of alternate video apps, but none allowed me to record videos using the wide angle lens, or they were bugged or wouldn't take the external mic or woulldn't do 60 FPS in 4K...
- OpenCamera : Works great for everything, most stable so far, OK with external mic, no time limit and all, but no wide angle
- 4K Camera Pro : No 4K 60 FPS (limited to 30 FPS), crashes a lot, no option for using wide angle camera, takes external mic
- Cinema FV-5 Lite : No option for more than 30 FPS, 4K is limited to the pro version, no option for wide angle camera
- HedgeCam2 : Unable to even select 4K anymore after testing the app, couldn't find an option to select another camera, should take external mic, not tested that much.
- Google Camera (from Pixel) : Supports wide angle for photo, but not video. Stopped testing there.
- DJI Mimo : This is the app from my gimbal, no 4K 60 FPS (no framerate option), and won't take external microphone... So it's OK for making footage, but not interviews.
Question
For now, my best option is to forget about the wide angle and to just use Open Camera which is not 100% satisfying...
So my question is this:
Does anyone see a better option? Maybe even a ROM or an addon that could force microphone selection? I'm willing to go to custom builds at this point.
Thank you
UltimateByte said:
Hello,
Sum up
I'm looking for a good way to record 4K 60 FPS with an external microphone, and possibly using any camera of the phone.
Why
I'm trying to find a convenient way to record good quality videos with speaking subjects (interviews and such) on the phone.
I aim the best possible quality for comfort and durability. I am therefore trying to film 4K 60 FPS with an external Lavalier microphone plugged in the jack port of the phone. (I'm also using a gimbal and stands depending on the context).
I also want to sometimes use the main camera, and sometimes the wide angle lens.
Phone
I'm using a stock ROM Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro (8GB RAM/256GB Storage, Global version).
Issues
As simple as it seems, I'm encountering a few issues/limitations.
Default video app :
- doesn't seem to take an external microphone
- has mediocre but OK audio compression quality
- has an 8 minutes limit when filming 4K 60 FPS (don't know about other formats).
(My 8 minutes 4K 60 FPS video is 2.2GB, so it doesn't seem to be a file size limit)
- and it's also the only one that seems to support video recording with any lens/camera on the phone...
I'm willing to sacrifice on audio quality if someone can think of a way to use an external mic, and get rid of that 8 minutes time limitation with the default camera app.
Issues with other apps
I've tried a lot of alternate video apps, but none allowed me to record videos using the wide angle lens, or they were bugged or wouldn't take the external mic or woulldn't do 60 FPS in 4K...
- OpenCamera : Works great for everything, most stable so far, OK with external mic, no time limit and all, but no wide angle
- 4K Camera Pro : No 4K 60 FPS (limited to 30 FPS), crashes a lot, no option for using wide angle camera, takes external mic
- Cinema FV-5 Lite : No option for more than 30 FPS, 4K is limited to the pro version, no option for wide angle camera
- HedgeCam2 : Unable to even select 4K anymore after testing the app, couldn't find an option to select another camera, should take external mic, not tested that much.
- Google Camera (from Pixel) : Supports wide angle for photo, but not video. Stopped testing there.
- DJI Mimo : This is the app from my gimbal, no 4K 60 FPS (no framerate option), and won't take external microphone... So it's OK for making footage, but not interviews.
Question
For now, my best option is to forget about the wide angle and to just use Open Camera which is not 100% satisfying...
So my question is this:
Does anyone see a better option? Maybe even a ROM or an addon that could force microphone selection? I'm willing to go to custom builds at this point.
Thank you
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Try filmic pro, it's not free but has a huge amount of options when it comes to resolutions, compression/container method, camera and fps, there's actually too much for me to mention, the ui is a little cluttered but I think it's down to having so much stuff
sofir786 said:
Try filmic pro, it's not free but has a huge amount of options when it comes to resolutions, compression/container method, camera and fps, there's actually too much for me to mention, the ui is a little cluttered but I think it's down to having so much stuff
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Just got the Filmic Pro app, really great even though it doesn't solve the camera switch issue. Thanks for sharing.
Sent a few suggestions to the devs, we'll see.
One boring thing is it gets back to the default (internal) mic after unplugging the external and does not go back to external when you plug it back. No big deal but might lead to errors. Also, it doesn't support the DJI Osmo Mobile 3 yet, but since the 1 and 2 are supported, it's likely a mater of time. That's awesome already that it supports some gimbals at all.
For the rest, it's pretty cool, I like the interface and ease of use, that's the most professional video app I've seen yet.
We'll see, I'm glad I've got this app in my library anyways.
Hi
Been using a V50, that is identical to the V40 camera wise, for a couple of days comig from a V30.
Regarding RAW capture with the stock camera the output seems much worse than the V30 - the DNG files have vignetting and are very desaturated, noting like the output on the V30 and previous LG phones that had this corrected.
Using a 3rd party camera app, the DNG files don't have vignetting but are still very desaturated.
I'm on android 10. Does the V40 also has these issues, having the same camera hardware?
Thanks
Hi!
The V40 does actually have the same problems. Well, DNG files as RAW files by nature contain the unprocessed information what the camera saw when it took the picture, including all optical imperfections and sensor noise. I have a SONY a6000 mirrorless camera at home, and it also has these "problems". It is how it is... Instead of the camera software doing the hard work, it leaves it to you to decide what do you wanna do with the image. Using Lightroom Mobile, you can fix both vignetting and barrel distortion by enabling Lens Profile Corrections. There is also an Auto setting for the colours too. (and a built in capture mode with DNG support which automatically applies lens prifile corrections if I remember correctly) But if you do not want to go through all these to get a decent picture, why all the fuss, just use JPEG. The stock cam app can do awesome images with its built in post processing algorithm, I barely use RAW mode, unless I wanna do something really specific and go hard on editing.
What is the best compromise in terms of settings for the video shooting for the OnePlus 10 Pro?
I have noticed that some of the settings available make the choppy videos and/or incompatible with external devices or apps.
- resolution (720p, 1080p, 4k or 8k)
- FPS (30 fps, 60 fps or 120 fps)
-- I have noticed AI Highlight Video and Ultra Steady are only available for 1080p, 60 fps. It seems to be the best compromise but happy to get your feedback on it.
What do you think about the below settings?
- 10 bit color for Photo / Night modes
- HEIF to retain quality and reduce file size
-- It seems to be fine if photos are converted before editing (on Photoshop / Lightroom for ex.) and exporting to JPG
- HEVC to save video space
-- I have noticed compatibility issues on certain videos on VLC for example or Whatsapp sharing (as it is compressing videos)
Thanks
any thoughts?
antoinecimino said:
What is the best compromise in terms of settings for the video shooting for the OnePlus 10 Pro?
I have noticed that some of the settings available make the choppy videos and/or incompatible with external devices or apps.
- resolution (720p, 1080p, 4k or 8k)
- FPS (30 fps, 60 fps or 120 fps)
-- I have noticed AI Highlight Video and Ultra Steady are only available for 1080p, 60 fps. It seems to be the best compromise but happy to get your feedback on it.
What do you think about the below settings?
- 10 bit color for Photo / Night modes
- HEIF to retain quality and reduce file size
-- It seems to be fine if photos are converted before editing (on Photoshop / Lightroom for ex.) and exporting to JPG
- HEVC to save video space
-- I have noticed compatibility issues on certain videos on VLC for example or Whatsapp sharing (as it is compressing videos)
Thanks
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Lightroom also failed to load some photos too due to some settings.may be HEIF but not same for all.
Hi, I've made a few posts comparing the Wichaya GCam to the stock Asus camera. So far I've always preferred the look of the Asus shots compared both to the Wichaya GCam + config xml. However the Asus shots over-sharpen areas of fine detail and over-smooths some highlight areas which looses fine detail.
Unfortunately there is no way to alter the sharpening and processing of the Asus camera. Wichaya's Gcam, however, can be customised using Ram Patcher settings, and I have been playing about with these to try to alter the look of the GCam shots to my taste.
Both the Asus camera and the GCam can save RAW files that can be edited afterwards. It can take a lot of effort to produce a good result, but for an occasional special picture it can be worth the trouble. I did a quick test today to compare an edited Gcam RAW with the normal GCam Jpeg and Asus camera's Jpeg. I've attached the results as screenshots of the editing software I use.
I was pleased with the edited RAW file (it's actually the Adobe DNG version of RAW) and felt that it gives a more accurate impression of the scene than either the Asus or GCam Jegs. So I saved the settings and in the future be able to apply them automatically. Some additional tweaking will always be necessary to Raw files, but the saved settings will make a good start.
Of course it's possible to also edit the Jpegs of both cameras but the results can become grainy - RAW files have a lot more potential to be edited successfully.