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bluetooth stereo headset for bikers helmets ???

Hello
the Jabra bluetooth headset (http://www.jabra.com/) seems to be fine!
But I want to use something like that fitting inside a motorbikers helmet!
Does anybody has an idea where to find a stereo headset (with a bluetooth dongle like that from jabra) fitting in a helmet?
Also I am looking for a good small extern stereo microphone for the XDA!
thanks for your informations

heiner said:
Also I am looking for a good small extern stereo microphone for the XDA!
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Audio input on the XDA is mono.

thanks for this hint concerning the audio input!
and where can I get a mono microphone with a fitting plug?

There's an accessory (not off the top of my head right now...) that converts between a 2.5 mm headset jack and the XDA's headset connector, and another one that does mic 2.5mm and stereo headset 3.5 mm.
Or solder something yourself... All the info is on
http://xda-developers.com/connectors

I know this isnt as high tech as a Bluetooth headset such as the Jabra... but as a low tech solution, Why not just use the headset that comes with the xda? You can certainly improve the ear fitting with some replacement ear sponges. or even better, slice into the cabling, and replace the earpieces with the SONY headphones that are like mini "in-ear defenders"
Quick tip: to solder headphone cables, use a soldering iron with a little cored solder to melt away and tin the very thin coating on the exposed cables, as headphone cables don't have sleeving in the traditional way. Dont hold it on for too long though!
Sorry, I can't quote any model numbers for the sony headphones, but the nice design feature is that
1) They are inside the ear, so it wont interfere with getting your helmet on/off
2) The Bass response with these headphones are even better than the standard xda headset. Because they are a snug fit like an industrial ear plug, so the ear canal resonates the sound better without losses. In a noisy environment you should find this better, e.g. with the roaring of a bike engine.
Advantage of modding with the standard headsetYou can modify the push to talk button by opening the pod and wiring a switch in parrallel to your handlebars, something thats easy to use with big bike gloves on, e.g. an automotive switch from Halfords. And of course the most important part, you get the xda four pole 2.5mm connector, which is very difficult to get hold of!
The other part of the push to talk switch "pod" on the xda headset is the microphone, so you could mount it somewhere in the part of the helmet near your mouth.
Obviously these ideas will need some "interconnect cables", from your xda to your handlebars, and from either to your helmet, I did see a posting with a motorbike cradle mount somewhere on this site.
Connectors
You should be able to get an inline solderable coupling connector (male & female) respectively from your local electronics shop or http://www.maplin.co.uk a small 3.5mm connector will suffice.
Obviously for the mic you need two or three connectors depending on how you rig it up.
You can get away with a mono one and one with three (in other words a normal stereo one) for the headphones, which has three poles
Headphones (stereo 3.5mm solderable plug & coupler)
1) Left
2) Right
3) Ground
Microphone (mono 3.5mm solderable plug & coupler)
1) Signal
2) Ground
Switch (mono 3.5mm solderable plug & coupler)
1) from pod button contacts
2) from pod button contacts
Obviously if you're not keen on using the phone while riding, then dont bother with the mic, switch etc, and just make up the headphones for music etc.
If this is the case, just buy the sony headphones and use a 2.5mm stereo to 3.5mm adapter (available at most maplin stores)
I've already done this mod using a replacement xda headset bought from expansys.com for a cassette adapter for in-car use. And have had many hours of music listening in between and during GPS instructions on long journeys!
Software called "Withmp3" is very good for in-car music playback (Its just like Winamp) because you can assign hardware buttons to skip tracks or stop the music. Even while using Tom-Tom navigator for example.

heiner said:
Hello
the Jabra bluetooth headset (http://www.jabra.com/) seems to be fine!
But I want to use something like that fitting inside a motorbikers helmet!
Does anybody has an idea where to find a stereo headset (with a bluetooth dongle like that from jabra) fitting in a helmet?
Also I am looking for a good small extern stereo microphone for the XDA!
thanks for your informations
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by far the safest way to do this is look at the communication/intercom systems currently on offer from motorcycle suppliers. i know no biker is ever going to have an accident, but things sticking in ears is probably not a good idea if head does hit the road.
i am 'lucky' enough to have a bike already fitted out with passenger intercom, radio and 'phone connection but i'm damned if i can find the right sort of 'phone connector and the bike manufacturer is about 2 years behind. so i suppose i'll have to find someone who can make one. any ideas?
ian

Motorola HS-830!
Bought two recently and they work just great!
Except for the fact that XDA/QTEK/etc... can't send audio, so I can't listen to MP3 using this helmet headset.
Anyhow, you can either use the helmet headset for phone calls or music (using iPAQ) or connect both helmet headsets to have a two way conversation with your passenger!
Work just great, and it comes with a neck lace, when not on the bike!

Audio bluetooth routing...
I found on this forum very little information about an audio driver (audio profile actually) product for PPC from AveLink: http://www.avelink.com/Bluetooth/Products/AudioDriver/index.htm
But they seem to integrate the MS Stack with two new profiles and the A2DP everybody is looking for!
I've been looking for a solution for... an eternity...
Anyhow can't find the product for purchase anywhere so I wrote them to see the features/price/etc... I'll let you know guys
Gee, hope is a strong feeling that leads us to keep trying... I can't even think on how much time I spent looking for this

external speakers

http://www.jenneth.info/archives/000267.html
while not a true XDA accessories
it's a pretty cool portable speaker system for playing
mp3 with better sound quality then the normal pda speaker
perfect for cramped spaces like
trunk of a mobsters car
coffin
ISS (international space station)
small airplane toilet while entering the 20K miles club

Well, the most important thing is to get a stereo jack adaptor, with 2.5mm male to 3.5mm female.
Once you plug it in the headset socket of the XDA/Qtek, you can connect it to any system with the usual 3.5mm stereo jack.

yep and maybe a mono jack for a mic if you will be using karaoke

can anyone help with wiring connections

Being a deaf old git (not totally but my hearing is not as good as I would like), I want to add a pair of apmlified speakers to the PDA so I can hear the voices in my Tom Tom on the Apline clearer since the socket is a 2.5 stero type plug does anyone know which is which on the connections please?

you should read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1526625#post1526625

I presume your referring to the Garmin 2.5mm to 3.5mm Jack Adaptor?
nice but not what I was really after
I have found a small set of speakers with a 3.5 jack on the end all that concerns me is the standard headset that comes with the IIi is headset and mic I presumed that a common return (usually the last outer connection and I imagine one of the terminals is for sound and one for mic if so it means only mono sound which is different to what I have been lead to believe just need to know which is the sound out connections on the plug so I can buy a 2.5 plug and wire them up.
The other thing I suppose is I could get a bluetooth headset if the sound from the Tom Tom comes over that but that is a unknown also

i was not talking about the post i made in that thread but more about the DIY stuff people were doing
more about the connector wiring here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors

that would have been exactly what I wanted only thing it wasn't for the Apline unfortunately

Audio connections on himilaya and alpine are identical.

then one of us is wrong as the connections shown are on a FOUR pin connector my Alpine has a working THREE pin connector

not sure about alpine but i had no probs using my old wallaby headset and cradle on alpines sibling called himalaya

Well I seem to be a blind old git because I just noticed there is a inset on the plug and it is a four connection job sorry guys I only recently got given this thing and a quick glace it looks like three connections but one is inset behind the shield

The 2.5mm connector on BOTH Alpine & Himalaya can accomodate either a stereo or a 4-pin 2.5mm connector.
If the PDA detects a 4-pin plug inserted, it assumes the standard wired earphones and mic are connected, and bypasses the internal mic and routes stereo audio to the earphones.
When a normally-wired 2.5mm stereo plug (or adapter to 3.5mm socket) is connected to the PDA, it just outputs stereo audio.
I use a small 2.5mm stereo plug to 3.5mm socket adapter (having shaved away some plastic to enable it to fit, the socket is inset slightly) - to connect up a standard set of ipod-type speakers to the PDA, and it works a treat.
In short, either obtain a small adaptor to standard 3.5mm socket adaptor or if you get a 2.5mm stereo plug that fits nicely (Maplins, Radio Spares etc) and you want to solder it up yourself, it follows the same wiring cnventions as it's bigger 3.5mm brother, so a wiring diagram is just a google away.
Joe

quick question audio headphone

I was looking around the phone and can't find any jack to plug any audio headphone. do i need a special wires headphone for the tilt?

There was a usb-headphone supplied with my Kaiser (audio headphones with a small usb-jack).
You can buy an extra adapter that allows 2.5mm audio jacks, like this one: picture.

It may be easier to get some Bluetooth Headphones...

Does this adapter exist?

I already have a 2.5mm -> 3.5mm stereo adapter to connect my Mogul to my car stereo.
I want a 2.5mm (M) -> Splits two ways:
a) 3.5mm (F) stereo
b) 3.5mm (F) mic
If there isn't one commercially available, I should be able to make it. Any idea what the proper pinout is? And how do we get all signals down 3 wires? (Left+Right+Mic+Gnd+control button)

Any update on finding out how to conect a external speaker and mic to the 6800? I would like to have this type of setup in my car.

TdiDave said:
Any update on finding out how to conect a external speaker and mic to the 6800? I would like to have this type of setup in my car.
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You can do a direct splice of the cables coming out if you want, but that requires a little bit on knowledge and a little bit of testing. Basically, you'd take the stock headset and cut off the earbuds and mic. You'd then splice the headphone fead and the mic feed into other lines that would run to your external speaker and mic. Other than that, I don't know of any attachments that do it. You could swing by radio shack and ask them.

I am also interested in doing this. My car has an aux input to the stereo and I would like to install some kind of mic setup so I can use it as a handsfree device. Bluetooth is way too unpredictable so I plan on doing it wired.
You will need a 4-conductor 2.5mm plug along with the Y-cable that came with the phone that has usb and 2.5mm jack.

anyone looking for this setup.. i have a cable i bought off ebay that has a miniusb,which allows you to have a charger plugged in, built in microphone and answer button, and a 3.5mm headphone jack, it works great in the car for hands free (car deck has aux in) , and also works great with my cigarette lighter fm transmitter. anyone looking for this , just type in m

I think i found a solution. I just bought an adapter like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2in1-USB-audio-...ryZ35211QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem