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I've just sold my last car which had built-in PCM sat nav. I'd like to get sat nav for my new car but can't decide whether to get a GPS cradle for my XDA, a TomTom 3/5/700 or change the car's head unit for a power-screen DVD sat nav system.
My XDA IIi is relatively stable but it does crash periodically, can be slow to run stuff, sometimes freezes when I'm answering calls and basically seems to struggle with any sort of complex processing. I'm a bit woried that it may therefore be a bit crap at running 3d maps. Has anyone any experience of using these versus built in car systems or the TomTom units?
I've never updated the firmware etc so would also be interested if this improves reliability/speed etc.
Between the TomTom and SatNav head unit is the only real difference the screen size and convenience of not having an external box?
Thanks in advance for any help, Jonathan
I've just got Tom tom for my XdaIIi, with a bluetooth GPS reciver bought on E-bay. I've found it slightly unstable, however my friend with a IIs said it sorted itself out after a short time of using it. I recomend it, however I donot have experience of the other systems, so I would not be able to say which one is better. I personally like having everything in one place.
i plan to buy a bluetooth gps receiver.
i just have some question before buying one
- will any bluetooth gps receiver work with niki? are there known receivers that will not work?
- i currently have a mapking software on niki and a map of my city, is the bluetooth gps receiver all i need for it to work? by work i mean it'll tell you where you are, where to go, etc...
thanks!
I have an adapt AD-350 bluetooth GPS receiver.
Works like a dime! It 'only' cost me 50 euro's (dixons, the netherlands).
Works with any app that can use GPS, (for all I know).
dekoning said:
I have an adapt AD-350 bluetooth GPS receiver.
Works like a dime! It 'only' cost me 50 euro's (dixons, the netherlands).
Works with any app that can use GPS, (for all I know).
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looks nice thanks dude! i'll consider that brand, i hope they sell it in taiwan
my holux GPS (i forget the number) works great.
i use this : http://www.htcdirect.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=289¤cy=GBP
solar powered sirf iii on my copilot7, all good
I use an Oasis BT GPS, wich are no longer available under that brand name but it works perfect with my downloaded tom tom software
you can find a lot on pdashop.be
succes!!
I use a Globalsat BT-338 and its wonderful.
I like the idea of a solar powered bluetooth gps
anyways thanks guys! will check out those you suggested! buying one tom
Navman B10
I just paired a NAVMAN B10 the $35 special from Expansys US. It is a SIRFIII and so far it works awesome. Cant really see why it was so cheap. Yet.....
kipmast said:
Cant really see why it was so cheap. Yet.....
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maybe made in China? lol
Can I use these with Google Map? I mean that I don't need TomTom or another program at all?
I use this, "http://www.bluenext.co.uk/bluetooth-gps/bn-806f-bluetooth-gps.html"
works real good, it's real fast, good battery and have the last chip sirf star III, and of course all this for a good price
How to setup
Could someone tell me how to setup GPS connection over Bluetooth? I have a Nokia GPS which was working on normal HTC Touch and I just can't get it work on Nike... This is what I did:
1. Turn on GPS
2. Turn on Bluetooth on Nike
3. Search for BT device, Nokia is found
4. Enter code
5. Select serial port (the only port offered)
6. I create an outgoing port (e.g. COM2) for Nokia (in settings/connections/setting/bluetooth)
7. I set GPS program port to the previously created outgoing port in setting/system/External GPS)
8. I set GPS port number in iGO...
What did I wrong? Please help me.
Thank you in advance
That's all correct. I can't see what's the problem there.
Me neither... On my old iPaq (WinMo 2003) is a lot easier to connect as there is a connect feature in Bluetooth manager. In WinMo 2006 there is no such possibility... How can a bluetooth connection to GPS initialized without iGO? How could I connect from Windows to test the connection?
mapping software
i live in the us where can i get a free mapping software with map? because i dont want to access any data...
I'm trying to set up traffic on igo 8 and TMC search returned negative results. Does anyone know if Kaiser supports TMC?
.....And yes I have searched the forum for this.
hnic8705 said:
I'm trying to set up traffic on igo 8 and TMC search returned negative results. Does anyone know if Kaiser supports TMC?
.....And yes I have searched the forum for this.
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No, Kaiser doesn't have an FM tuner or interweb capability. And yes this has been answered before here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2211591&postcount=12
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No, Kaiser doesn't have an FM tuner or interweb capability. And yes this has been answered before here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2211591&postcount=12
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Thanks for the speedy response.
that being said is there an alternative that anyone know on how to configure traffic with Igo8 or to automatically reroute if im using google or something in the background.
You can use TMC with IGO but it would require you to get at bluetooth TMC receiver och a bluetooth GPS with integrated TMC but the ones I´ve found are quite expensive and not easy to find.
oh ok thanks cause i still been searching all over the net for one.
From another thread in the Kaiser accessories forum:
gauntman said:
GNS are advertising a launch of TMC only receivers.
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=72&L=1
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here's the link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400813
If you are in the UK, don't forget TMC is a paid service... unlike the rest of the world.
Okay I emailed the people over at GNS about the bluetooth TMC Transmitter that plugs into a cars lighter plug.
This is what I asked...
When will the GNS TrafficBoxplus FM9BT-C be available for sale, and is it compatible with the HTC Kaiser (AT&T Tilt), Igo 8 and TMC signals in the USA?
Thanks.
This was the reply I recieved.
Dear Mr. Gerado,
thank you for your inquiry. The ramp up time for production of the GNS TrafficBoxplus FM9BT-C will be in the end of october 2008. The GNS TrafficBoxPlus FM9BT is compaible with HTC Kaiser and works also with iGO8 (manual configuration). The GNS TMC receivers support the TMC service in the USA. But it depends on the navigation software (maps), if the received USA TMC data can decoded and used in the navigation software.
Best regards
Gerd Sept
So it looks like in November or so I will be ordering me another "toy" as my wife called my gadget pr0n..
http://www.jr.com/magellan/pe/MGN_TRAFFICLINK/
So much cheaper, but no clue it it'll work w/ phones.
i had tpc rom and the igo worked fine
Hi,
Does anybody know about a working bluetooth TMC-receiver for Leo? I need only TMC but I'm not really sure what I should buy. Maybe anybody of you has a working one - please tell me which one.
Big THX in advance!
de Wolfe said:
Hi,
Does anybody know about a working bluetooth TMC-receiver for Leo? I need only TMC but I'm not really sure what I should buy. Maybe anybody of you has a working one - please tell me which one.
Big THX in advance!
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HI, it´s possible to use the inside radio to recive tmc signal. But only with the cableheadset.
Is it already possible also with HD2? Last time I tried (3 days ago) hyperGPS was not suitable for HD2.
No, it is not yet possible to do so... I am waiting for this too...
De Wolfe: check gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=80
GNS TrafficBox Plus FM9BT-C or its identical clone Navilock NL-324BTR (comes a little cheaper). Tested with HD2 + Navigon 7.3.6 and 7.4.0 PDA.
No HyperGPS/proprietary TMC yet.
I've tried Hypergps with my HD2 with no success
The starnge think is that Igo8 discovered TMC when Hypergps was set to port com 7 and GNS protocol. Unfortunately there was no way for me to set the correct FM frequency for RDS
TMC working with external BT GPS/TMC receivers
I got my new HTC HD2 a week ago. Igo8 runs exceptionally fast. I wanted to still use TMC data as well as I have paid for it (naviextras) and am used to it on my Pocket PC's (ipaq 3970, 5450, 5550 and 4700). I tried the HyperGPS route with the headset lead (you definitely need to plug a lead in to act as FM aerial). The only way I get TMC information working is to use either the GNS BT GPS/TMC receiver (GNS5843) or the Royaltek (RTG1001). I can either use internal GPS of HD2 (port 4 baud rate 57600) and get TMC from the BT GPS on port 2 at baud rate 57600. Port 2 seems to be the only option you get when you add (pair) the BT GPS devices and pick an external GPS port. I intend to generally use the internal GPS, but when in the car and going some distance or in bad weather if necessary will switch on the GNS 5843 go to igo8 setting/TMC pick GNS (protocol) port 2 and baud rate of 57600 (even though the manual says 38400). I get the message TMC Hardware detected and off It goes searching for RDS signals of the FM transmissions and extracts the TMC codes to integrate with your map and route. I have my GPS/TMC device semi permanently in the car (using velcro pads) by the windscreen or sun roof to get a better view of the sky for the satellites and the aerial suckered to the top of the windscreen so as not to have the FM signal blocked by the metal of the car's metal frame. Be aware that if you have a car with the 'athermic' windscreens that this will weaken all radio signals to your device (satellite, mobile & FM/RDS).
I better mention that I am in Northamptonshire in England in UK. You need to be in area that is covered by TMC carrying radio stations (non BBC), example are Classic FM and leicester sound, Heart FM, etc. etc..
Dear Mr de Wolfe
I use the "GNS TrafficBox FM9BT-C - Bluetooth TMC / TMCPro Empfänger mit KFZ zu USB Adapter" wich is a bloetooth tmc-module built in a car-charger.
It works pretty good, signal is ok with the short antenna and is very good with the cable-antenna. The charger is strong enough for the HD2 (wich is mentioned as problem in the comments of the website)
I got it from here: "http://www.pdamax.de/?art_nr=gn-003"
Greetings from Bavaria
esociarius
I can confirm the gns 5843 working. but i do have, after activating bluetooth, to connect the com2 manually. only activating bluetooth does not do the trick. the gns unit is paired but com2 does not connect. so igo does not find the tmc signal.
after manually connecting com 2 it works like a charm.
little annoyance and would like to find solution for it. if anyone knows.
example of sys.txt tmc setting for HTC HD2
I think you can get around this by adding some text to the sys.txt file under title of TMC and you state com port. Port 2 in our case.
[tmc]
port="" - comma separated port name and port number pairs for ex. "COM,1,COM,2,COM,3"
source="" - if it is not specified then the program tries to autodetect or the possible strings are
gns
royaltek
amaryllo
samsung
opentmc1
opentmc2
ngalik
eten
harman
gps_source= - 0 if the GPS and TMC receivers communicate on different ports, 1 if they share one port (for ex. GNS 5843 or Royaltek RTG1001)
But then it will always look for the BT GPS unit. Personally I prefer to switch the TMC section on only if I think I need to when in the car on a longer journey. So I use HD2's internal GPS (port 4) and external TMC (port 2 from GNS5843) Like I went to London on Friday (100miles away). Only in the centre of Canary wharf did the signal become confused. This would be because of the tall, close, glass and steel buildings making multipath GPS signals and only a small and narrow view of the sky immediately above. That is the situation when you put your BT GPS receiver at the sunroof glass looking straight up at sky instead of forward at the buildings blocking the signals from orbit.
Were you using your GNS GPS/TMC device for both signals or just the TMC? The above should cure your problem if you only use the GPS/TMC BT device on port 2.
I am using the internal GPS and bluetooth only for TMC. never had a prolem with lack of sattelite signal of the internal GPS in my car, so have no reason to use it other way.
I agree that the internal GPS receiver in the HD2 is very very powerful (sensitive). I get all 12 windows full of GPS signal even in the middle of my house and accuracy listed as 'high'. But I was just giving an insight to the worse case scenario I had the other day was in the middle of Canary Wharf because of the tall buildings . it would be the only place in the UK with the worst conditions for satellite reception.
The ideal and cheapest solution, for everyone, will be the solution for HyperGPS to work on HD2 with the 3.5mm aerial/headset lead plugged in. I even get a good FM signal through the 3.5mm to 3.5mm lead to connect HD2 to the audio input to the car system. If someone gets or sees the HyperGPS working on the HD2 for igo8 do please let us know. Thanks! in advance.
P.S. by the way ....where is this web site based? I just put this on at 1856 yet it displays at 0656. This site would therefore be ½ way around the world...... Ah! I just noticed there is the pm after it.
Just got my Navilock NL-324BTR. Paid just over £50 from Amazon.de. All is working well. The only niggle I have is that when iGO8 opens, it asks me to confirm the port that I want to use. If I do not select the port then hit "select" in time, the option screen disappears and it does not start.
Anyone any solutions?
To get that screen back you either just tap the BT button to get to that screen again or minimize Igo8 and tap start then Bluetooth then select your device. (I have moved the BT icon to the top (tap and hold) of the HD2 screen.
tomtom
Does anyone know whether there are any workarounds to use any of these tmc receivers with tomtom on the hd2. If not, can someone who used both tomtom and recent Igo give a short pros and cons of the two? I used Igo about 3-4 years ago and I did not like it plus I became used to tomtom.
what is reception quality of gns trafficbox tmc receiver?
Hi,
i am topaz (HTC touch diamond 2) owner and can use hypergps, however i find fm reception of topaz builtin tuner quite poor for tmc needs. In my citroen c5 (worst car for all sort of signals due to its athermic windscreen), tmc reception is poor. I have experimented with various antennas connected to extusb connector, however no real success.
I tried to get magnetic mount fm antena for car roof, but there isnt any available?!
Out of desperation i am now conisdering GNS traffic box (to many $$$...). As i understand there are two versions: lighter plug and external antenna version (both BT). I would buy one of these, and lighter plug seems practical, however i am afraid, that it would have poor recepetion due to athermic windscreen.
tomi
Hi tomi,
I have the GNS for the lighter-plug. The reception in my car (Ford Mondeo) is excellent with the long antenna and not bad with the short antenna - but in your case: I would buy the internal module, which is connected to the antenna of the car-radio, though you cannot take it out of your car.
Best regards
esociarius
Hi mihaid,
I have Tomtom on my second device, but I think there is no possibility to connect a tmc-module to tomtom - they want to sell their own tmc over internet-connection. This was one of the reasons, why I went back to Navigon, which works great on the hd2 (though the Navigon-support is poor).
Best regards
esociarius
For those with athermic front windscreens, place your BT GPS or TMC devices on the rear parcel shelf or attach to a sun/moon roof if you have one. An alternative position if you are a bit DIY is to place under the plastic in the aquarium between the bonnet and windscreen (usually has the windscreen wiper parts there too, needs power and insulation/ water proofing provided) tuck aerial along windscreen rubber).
I think many people, including me, would like this.
http://www.locosystech.com/product.php?zln=en&id=49
and here is the specifications.
http://www.locosystech.com/download/receiver/TMC2001~3_datasheet_v1.0.pdf
I had a few emails with the support people, here is a relevant excerpt:
"Regarding to navigation software, our TMC Protocol has been supported by
major navigation software providers,
such as : Destinator, Horizon, iGo, Maction, Mapfactor, Sygic. "
All the rest is in the specs.
Problem is, it connects with mini USB. OK, mini to micro converters do exist, but will it still work?
Hmm, doesn't seem so. It has a USB conector, but which isn't carrying USB signals, it has a simple serial port instead. So the PND would have to be specifically made to work with it.
Bluetooth GPS - TMC Receiver:
GNS 5870 GPS RDS TMC Receiver Bluetooth
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=157,具体香港的地址网站上有&L=1
Best regards,
dingolino
p34cdc2 said:
I think many people, including me, would like this.
http://www.locosystech.com/product.php?zln=en&id=49
and here is the specifications.
http://www.locosystech.com/download/receiver/TMC2001~3_datasheet_v1.0.pdf
I had a few emails with the support people, here is a relevant excerpt:
"Regarding to navigation software, our TMC Protocol has been supported by
major navigation software providers,
such as : Destinator, Horizon, iGo, Maction, Mapfactor, Sygic. "
All the rest is in the specs.
Problem is, it connects with mini USB. OK, mini to micro converters do exist, but will it still work?
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dingolino said:
Bluetooth GPS - TMC Receiver:
GNS 5870 GPS RDS TMC Receiver Bluetooth
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=157,具体香港的地址网站上有&L=1
Best regards,
dingolino
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Slightly expensive with only 299 euro
For EUR 299,- it would be realy expensive - I got it for EUR 89,-
Best regards,
dingolino
http://www.amazon.de/GNS-5870-TMC-R...UTF8&coliid=IHAMS4JL0SXJZ&colid=1OPRJANNOTT3Z
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Slightly expensive with only 299 euro
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That is indeed a better price. so bought one.
Can confirm it is working well with iGo8. receiving TMC without a problem.
The only annoying thing is you need to connect the com2 manually. if you have done that it works.
looking for a solution on this. so far not found.
There is also the Royaltek RTG 2000 Bluetooth GPS/TMC receiver. You can get one for around €90 and it works just fine with iGO.
THE HD2 has TMC build in
if that is the case, good news.
please explain to us how to use it in navi program.
so far no one got it to work without bluetooth receiver.
shine the light..
Bump, I liked to know to get that working !
Confirm that
GNS TrafficBoxPlus FM9BT-C (google it) is working fine with HD2 and Igo8
please explain
Please explain!!
peter7 said:
THE HD2 has TMC build in
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madatter said:
Please explain!!
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Bump Up ! is it true? That would be so nice!
it is just a loose comment made and never explained how to.
when you look in the hypergps thread it is stated that it does not work on the HD2.
* BCM432x Chipset:
HTC Rhodium, HTC Leo, HTC Mega
Supports radio functions if renaming FMSDKWrapper.dll to FMS_API.dll with the above driver. RDS data cannot be received.
We are working on this device. Related thread: FM Transmitter on HD2
Have a look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630&highlight=hd2+tmc
sutt359 said:
Have a look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630&highlight=hd2+tmc
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this is the hyperGPS thread i mentioned before and the second post in the link says:
NOT supported devices
HTC Rhodium/Leo cannot receive RDS data by using GFMAPI.
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* BCM432x Chipset:
HTC Rhodium, HTC Leo, HTC Mega
(skipped)RDS data cannot be received.
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Hmmmm...
When using FM radio, i can see station names, recieved via RDS.
Example: "SKY radio"
pavelbor said:
Hmmmm...
When using FM radio, i can see station names, recieved via RDS.
Example: "SKY radio"
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Yes, that's RDS, not TMC....
woaloo said:
Yes, that's RDS, not TMC....
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If i have understood it right rds and tmc is transferred the same way but the problem is extraction of the tmc data. the piece of software used for that named gfmapi does not work with the BCM432x Chipset build in the HD2
so far nobody managed to write software that can do this for our chipset.
for the time being we are left with the working bleutooth tmc receiver solution.
Another potential USB solution?
After extensive googling I found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Evesham-Nav-Cam-7500-Tmc-Kit-12-VOLT-USB-CAR-CHARGER-/370400305941
It is a GNS FM9; I bought one. At first sight the connector seemed to be a standard mini USB (that is easy to convert to micro USB). Well, it IS USB, but the 8-pin type that is widely used in digital camera connectors by Fuji, for example. I opened it up; the first attached image shows how it looks inside. Looks fairly standard USB colour coding, although pin 4 (the black) is also wired.
I have an RJ11 type that I used with my Axim X51 through a windscreen mount. The second and third image show how that one is wired; attached as comparison / reference.
I understand that I would need USB host functions to use the first one with the HD2, which is under development. But could some clever folks confirm that it would be possible to solder a micro USB connector to it and end up with a usable hardware? Of course, subject to driver availability.