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Plz help... No Service after radio upgrade

Dear friendly XDA-Developer,
Three days back, I tried to upgrade my ASIA IIs radio from 1.02 to 1.12. It all went smoothly, but however, my IIs had been without signal and all it says is No Service. I've tried to search through the forums, but to no avail. Kindly please help... I'm at my wits end.
Thank you all!!!

Not sure were or what files you used, if they were type I or II, so I would just sugesst that you Reflash using the files of wiki.

Hi, thanks! I practically tried all the other radio roms for BA thats available on the ftp://xda-developers, but all give same results... Is it something to do with the radio rom or my phone?

You can't try all roms of the download site for they wont work unless you know what you are doing, (correct rom type ect).
Just make your life easy and go over wiki, download, read and install, its worked for many before you.
Read below this

Dear MDAIIIUser,
Like what you've said, I've read through the wiki BA guide, over and over again. I've followed throught the tutorial carefully and still, it didn't solve my problem.
I've some queries here:-
Firstly, if I use an incompatible radio version, would it affect my XDA IIs? I mean, I've successfully upgraded my CE Rom to 1.40 WWE previously and it worked flawless with cooked 1.40 Ext Rom, however, the moment I upgraded my radio rom, my phone feature cannot be utilised. It just says No Service. I've seen on the forum Asian users using Qtec 1.08 radio rom.
Secondly, my understanding on the Oper and WWE is that by setting them correctly with XDA3tools, I can then upgrade them to my XDA without facing any country code errors or such. But would it affect my XDA functionality?
Lastly, can you make any recommendations on which is the most appropriate CE/Radio ROM version I should use for my XDA IIs based on WWE & O2ASI001?
THanks a millions! Believe me, I've really tried very hard to get my IIs to work and have throughly read through the guide, but to no avail...

I recommend that you just download a FULL, fresh, 1.40 Shipped EXE (I recommend the I-Mate one) and upgrade with it.
Use the first method described here to upgrade.

Dear TheLastOne,
I'll try that now! I'll post the results after that.
Thanks a millions!

I've successfully flashed my XDA IIs with I-Mate shipped exe. All went smoothly, but the same problem persist. No service. I guess I can pronounce my IIs official dead... Sob Sob

khngaroo
Could it be that your device is sim locked or that your sim card is no good?

Dear MDAIIIUser,
I believe that my SIM is not locked as I can make calls using the same SIM with another phone. When I insert my SIM card into my XDA, there wasn't any prompt or indication of my device being locked... Is there another way to verify that?
Thanks!

khngaroo said:
I've successfully flashed my XDA IIs with I-Mate shipped exe. All went smoothly, but the same problem persist. No service. I guess I can pronounce my IIs official dead... Sob Sob
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Hi KHNGAROO... I am not an expers as TLO and MDAUser..but you can give a try downloading the 1.10 radio and downgrading your 1.40 istallation thet contains 1.12 radio to 1.10... I experienced a lot of problems on my device ( low signal or no signal) with the 1.40+1.12 radio combination..and I solved with hios trick..Dont know if can work for you..but maybe you can try..byez

khngaroo
The fact that you have no service would or could indercate that it is beining rejected by your network operator.
Alas, I have no Idea what message you get when a BA is locked to a sim.
(as in the provider has SIM locked your device so that you can only use it with that sim on his network).
The fact that you can use your sim in a different phone proves that the sim is not faulty however that does not verify if the Phone is sim locked.
Thus can you insert a sim from another device that you know that works into your BA and use it.
I have no idea what you had on the phone before you upgraded it nor if it worked, nor if you have also changed your sim so its just a bit hard to work out your probem.
At the moment it could be a locked device or a faulty instaltion of the radio rom.
You might have to go back to your Shipped version to verify if the device still works.
Then upgrade the OS only and check again
Then cook the Extromn to make sure you are not downgrading anything with the new 1.40 OS
Then upgrade the radio to a higher version 1.10 to verify if it works
The upgrade to 1.12 to prove or disprove vicer's very good suggestion.
Have fun
Be careful with the files that you use as you can't use Type I upgrade files to upgrade a Type II rom. Thus you will need to always download the files based on wiki and not reuse the old ones.

Dear MDAIIIUser,
I've flashed my original shipped asian rom back to my device. Got the SD bootable from my pal holding the same phone. Didn't work, still says No Service. I guess either my device is locked or the hardware is screwed.
Is there anything I can do to unlock my SIM on my XDA, should it be my XDA being locked. Or do I really have to bring it down to the service center to get the whole thing fixed?
Thanks a millions for all your help... Appreciated...

You still have not asnswerd the question of the sim. So I still dont know if it is the original sim or if you are using another on on a locked device.
So based on what I do know:
If you flashed the original Rom and have the correct sim and it does not work then your device needs to be sent back to the shop (which will be no problem as you have the original rom in it).
Wiki has a how to unlock (but like I said I dont know if that is your problem)

To all whom had helped me along the way (esp. MDAIIIUser & TheLastOne & vicer)
Brought my XDA IIs to Accord Dist and got it fixed. Now its back. I was told by the customer service operator that they had replaced the whole mainboard altogether. They didn't tell me what was the exact problem. Guess it was the hardware all along. But I was wondering, how on earth can flashing a ROM cause so much damage?
Therefore, here is a warning to those who wish to flash their XDAs, please do so only f you know what exactly you are doing. Please read wiki carefully before you try anything, or you might end up just like me, hee...

Well glad you solved your problem. There are a lot and I mean a lot of people that have been able to falsh thier device via this forum. But as you said you need to read and understand what you are doing.
So what rom do you have now and are you going to keep it?
(Not sure based on your sig)

Dear MDAIIIUser,
Weel, I've upgraded my CE rom to 1.40. However, I've decided to maintain my radio rom as it is (1.02), its kinda like once bitten twice shy. Quite sceptical that my IIs might end up in heaps again, lol.
Thanks again for all your help and concern.

khngaroo, I'm glad all your problems have been fixed. If it is indeed a hardware problem, then you should not hesitate to upgrade your rom.
(Besides, if the problem returns, you know they'll fix it )

TheLastOne said:
khngaroo, I'm glad all your problems have been fixed. If it is indeed a hardware problem, then you should not hesitate to upgrade your rom.
(Besides, if the problem returns, you know they'll fix it )
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Dear TheLastOne,
I took your word for it and gave it another shot! Followed all the instructions found at WIKI and presto, it worked and now my IIs is running on 1.40 CE and 1.12 Radio.
Many, many, thanks to all of you who had helped along the way!

khngaroo
Great, Happy for you.
The 1.40 rom has a few issues that can be found on the wiki Upgrade page that you need to be aware of.

Error 114, help me please,I'm helpless.

Hi All
I have a SPV M2000.One day the phone stopped working. Everything was all right, it did ask for pin but then didn't even looked for network,was immediately saying NO SERVICE. I tried few sim cards - the same.
So then I wanted to reinstall the ROM, I downloaded the official from Orange UK , tried to install it,and it shows ERROR 114, Radio Rom Upgrade Error.
And the phone now is in bootloader mode and I can't do anything!
I downloaded different ROM from xda-developers ,at the beggining with a country error, but i managed to fix it and now with this ROM it's the same thing. ERROR 114. I tried everything, hard,soft reset, Pc reset etc. Nothing works!PPC still in bootloader mode!
Please tell me if you know what else can I try!

Guys,come on,really noone knows???

Have you read WIKI? Follow the first method to flash your ROM. Have you remembered to plug in your power supply to your cradle when you flash your device?
Heres another thread on NO SERVICE Plz help... No Service after radio upgrade. Happened to me. Read it and see the advise by MDAIIIUser and TheLastOne. If all else fails, bring it to the shop.

I had a very similar problem....
First I tried to update a whole package that means rom, extended rom and radio
The radio update is always the first one and there always upgrade error 114 occured.
So I updated every part seperately and it works except the radio. So I tried alot but it just didn't work..even downgrading was impossible. MDAIIIuser and happy goat tried to help me as well as they could but nothing had an effect.
So I read in another forum that asus mainboards have some problemes with these radio updates....I thought they were joking...but I tried the radio pdate at another pc and it worked!
I know it sounds a bit stupid but I was desperate and at last it worked!
You can read it here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=89657#89657

TRied that method.Doesn't work
Any other ideas?
One more thing.Is it normal that in bootloader mode when I plug the power cable in the charging LED is not working?it was working before.
The battery is charged ,but shouldn't it show that the power is connected anyway?
EDIT: this is a reply to the first answer.
So you think I should try on another PC?I will today!Hopefully it will work.

So I managed to install new rom on a different computer! I think that there was a problem with active sync.I used the one that was installed from my old XDAII.Could that be the reason?Now i installed the one provided with a M2000.
But it doesn't work anyway
Still NO SERVICE message.
ANy other ideas different than taking it to Orange?

Hi rottie,
No Service could mean anything. Could your SIM card be faulty? Device SIM locked? Or hardware faulty? You cannot just use any ROMs you find at ftp. Try to flash your device with full shipped rom at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade. Use the first method and upgrade using MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to bypass the Country code error. Remember that you'd need to run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe twice.
Read wiki carefully, it has alot of precious information. Cheers ^^

Before you update any version you should be sure that your radio is
compatible with your device. Usually all radio upgrades should be
independent off the language of the device but as I understood (could be
wrong) there are differences because of the servicenetwork frequency.
So you must be sure that the chosen radio is compatible and that your
device is not simlocked.
So perhabs you should chose an upgrade of your provider.
But perhabs itis better not to risk your guarantee of your provider by
using updates or components of other providers! Because there could be
the possibility that your device is damaged and you should bring it back!
Good luck!

Guys, you get me wrong.I'm not trying anything what I'll find.
1)One of the ROMs that I tried and the one that I left now is a ROM downloaded from orange.co.uk for SPV M2000. So there can't be any incompatibility, don't you think?
2)I have 2 sim cards,both from Orange,I was using both of them before in my M2000 which is sold only through Orange so there can't be any simlock problem,don't you think?
3)I used only that orange ROM, original and the I-Mate one.None of them were working good,always NO SERVICE.
I bought the phone second hand,with box,all accessories etc. But I don't have a receipt :? And of course have lost the guy's number.That's why I want to try everything before going to the service.

I think this phone is network blocked, probably been reported damaged or stolen, once the insurance or replacement is issued a block is put on the imei of the phone that was subject to claim.

Debranded MDA Compact II ROM, 'Qtek' Style

now obsolete
new aku2 here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279908

so am i right in presuming that the gprs settings and phone settings are present in the rom? if not, how do we find them?
ALSO:
T-Mobile are releasing a rom update this month (ie this coming week!) so it might be worth looking at what they have done, not just for wifi fix but any other maintenence changes. Apparently they do alot of testing on their roms so there might be useful stuff there.

t-mobile gprs and wap settings are part of the extended rom. the 3 cabs files that begin CAB-Customization-...
i didnt include them as i'm on O2. This is more like a 'Qtek' version for the charmer, a universal version. doesnt include any operator specfic content.
looking forward to that update, hopefully its aku2, everyone else is releasing theres at the moment.

SDIO
What about SDIO drivers in this debranded OS?

so if i back up my current rom cabs and then install this, if it all goes pearshaped, i can relaod the origional and not end up with an expensive paperweight?
i wanna do the deed, but am scared as hell with it being my first PPC and only a few weeks old at that.
but anything to speed it up, its like im running windows or something.......
oh!
:wink:

only way you could mess up is if you pull the plug or have a power cut! while uploading the new os. remember to backup all your contacts and stuff as you'll need to hard reset.
you can start all over again if it doesnt boot or something by using the install package on the t-mobile site
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_com2.html
just go into the phones bootloader, with the phone off, hold down camera and plug in the sync cable until the 3 color boot screen comes up and run the install package to go back to factory.

It worked!!
Dear dave106 and all;
i tried your fantastic upgrade yesterday. This was my experience:
1- I works like charm!
2- you might find it easier to use Total commander to uncheck 'system' and 'read-only' in the properties of the windows folder on your charmer, before Unlocking CID (to avoid any error).
3- alternatively you might use Lockiwiz 2b from this forum to unlock and unlock CID first.
4- the ROM upgrade went fine, showed some error messages on the charmer screen (nothing to worry about) but did not indicate an end. I unplugged it after 20 minutes. It rebooted on itself et voila, it was up and running.
5- Changing the boot scrren went very smoothly.
6- I noted that the T-mobile customization (after the new config.txt) did not install at all. I had to manually install the CAB listed in the config.txt file to reload the MMS and GPRS settings.
But now my charmer has no T-mobile crap on it...
However, i did not notice any dramatic change in speed....

Ill check your unbraded rom for wifi sdio capabilities over the next few days (on a 'just in case' basis). I'm just recovering from a totally borked pagefile on my main pc so ive been too busy to try as of yet.

is this howto working on that device ?
http://www.vodafoneshop.de/shop/det...schaeftskunde&I_ID=4000&Artikel_Daten_ID=3208
or can i damage something with your howto over there ?

supreme2k said:
is this howto working on that device ?
http://www.vodafoneshop.de/shop/det...schaeftskunde&I_ID=4000&Artikel_Daten_ID=3208
or can i damage something with your howto over there ?
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thats a wizard, so you can just cid unlock it and install the imate or qtek wizard roms. the mda compact 2 is unique to t-mobile no other operator has it.

aeh....your sentence sounds strange to me, is it possible for my device or not ?

supreme2k said:
aeh....your sentence sounds strange to me, is it possible for my device or not ?
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lol, in a word, no.

i am from czech and i dont understand all of this.
This is OK? or only any idea..
is really decustomization my mda compact II? I have tmobile
(i dont can it)

i flashing new rom....
after 10minutes say my mdac "aplication repllog.exe dont start"
...update is OK, and i have second problem
when customization is start it said " \Extended_ROM\CAB-Customization-Connection-TMUK-Charmer-Nov15.sa.CAB"
DOESNT IT, I DONT HAVE THIS FILES IN EXTENDED ROM ++
and third problem, my storage card doesnt work ( i have2gb pretec...
only after the update

dead link
Can someone please post a working to the debranded rom? The current link does not work :-(
Thanks,
Dzim

funkus said:
Ill check your unbraded rom for wifi sdio capabilities over the next few days (on a 'just in case' basis). I'm just recovering from a totally borked pagefile on my main pc so ive been too busy to try as of yet.
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Funkus,
did you try wifi sdio with this debranded rom?
tnx

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Dzim said:
Can someone please post a working to the debranded rom? The current link does not work :-(
Thanks,
Dzim
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try it now, some tit nuked the uploads again

Got the Rom Working, the difference is quite noticable. Re wrote the extended ROM to auto customise just enough to get the MMS and GPRS to work correctly. Did any one work out if a WiFi card SD card will now work?
Would like to know before i buy one!

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dave106 said:
try it now, some tit nuked the uploads again
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Thanks a lot, I have spent few hours searching the Web for this file, but couldn't find it. Thumb up!!
Dzim

aWizard not reconizing os.nba
Hi,
have followed instructions as above but when I go to write new rom it can't find os.nba.
Anyone have any ideas on what i'm doing wrong or what to do next?
I'm a noob, obviously :roll:

Mass Flash

Evenin' all.
Might be a long shot, and I think I walready know the answer but thought I would just double check quickly.
I have about 100 HTC TyTnII phones that are on windows mobile 6.1 and need be downgraded to windows mobile 6.0 due to incompatible software.
Each day i am also having to do the same with a small handful of other TyTnII phones.
I have flashed a load of them with no problems using USB. Yesterday i tried to use an SD card which also worked fine on a test phone that we use for development, but it wont work on phones arriving direct from the factory.
Im pretty certain that its because i ened to unlock the CID (???) or flash the SPL (???) but this is time consuming and tedious.
Is there anyway of doing this part using an SD card? If not, what is the fastest way to do it on the road or on site when i dont have access to my computer?
Any ideas that you can bounce at me would be appreciated, and also it would be a good help if you can verify if what i have said is correct.
Cheers guys.
-AJ

Moved as not ROM Development.
As long as you use the original carrier ROM then CID won't be an issue.

Sorry about posting in the wrong place, was searching the forum for an answer and see a post in this area regarding a similar issue.
When you say original carrier ROM, do you meant the extaxt same rom that came with the phone, or a ROM from the same network provider ect?
They are English Orange WM6.1, so would I need any other English Orange WM6.0 rom? Or am i (probably) mistaken?

Your correct CID checks the vendor ID so you have Orange WM6.1 you will want Orange WM6 ROM as then vendor ID matches.
The other option is to just hard-spl them all wouldn't take long with laptop 5 mins each then you can bypass vendor ID check. "may be easier as don't know if Orange WM6 easily available?"

Would I be able to use WinRar to extract the NBH file from here and use that to flash the phone via SD Card without modifying or touching anything else on the phone?
RUU_Kaiser_ORANGE_UK_1.81.61.2_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.29R_Ship.exe

Just wondering if anyone has got any more info on this?

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Just wondering if anyone has got any more info on this?
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Well if they branded Orange it will work, lol you got so many i thought you would have tried it by now

Problem with HTC Kaiser Tytn II - please help...

So my problem is - I put android on my htc tytn II and it worked (well kinda) but anyway I decided to switch back to Windows Mobile...
I installed 1.27.x.x radio , found a Windows Mobile 6 ROM and put (Like in the instructions ) Kaisimg.nbh(renamed from ruu_signed.nbh) and Kaisdiag.nbh to my SD card and then started flashing... It flashed smth,rebooted automatically and started booting android again...
Then I hold again camera button + power+ reset and since then when I put EVERY .nbh file on my sd card and try to flash it it STUCK on "Loading.." If I try to flash it with USB It stays at 0%.
The only exeption is if I try to flash from USB the rom that I tried to flash before from my sd card.. then it starts 0%..1% and reboot the phone...
P.S: Please help me...I think my device is not Broken but I dont know what should I do to fix it...

To flash back to WM from android put your kaiser into bootloader (multi colored screen) Then connect to usb. Download any WM build that is recent (I suggest Phoenix 3 for this, you can flash whatever you want later). After you download it open and run the included RUU that came with it and it will flash it on there.

hmm, I also had experienced the similar problem on my 1st time flashing back to WinMo.
When you are trying to flash via USB cable and the process stopped at 1% I guess there is also a message about "Invalid vender ID" right?
and if the text in your bootloader (tricolor screen) doesn't mention anything about hard such as "3.29.0000" (not "3.29.hard")
then
you've lost your hard SPL that's why you cant flash any .nbh to your phone.
I had managed to solve this problem by flashing stock WM rom for kaiser. The rom also has to be suitable for your phone, I mean if your kaiser is originally from France, then use French kaiser stock rom. Or if you are using AT&T Tilt use kaiser cingular stock rom.
you can find the list of shipped roms for kaiser here :
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Kaiser/
If you still have the "invalid vender ID" error message, try another stock ROM.

Thanks man you're my hero! I though I lost my phone.. anyway i bought new one - Nokia 2730 Classic but Ill sell the kaiser...
Thanks Anyway ... you're god!

Have the same problem...
Firstly, I'd like to point that the reason for the hard SPL getting overwritten by an original SPL is NOT HAVING UPDATED HARDSPL to a newer version that prevents accidental overwrite. This is instructed in the previous steps before actually installing Android. That was my mistake (I had HardSPL 1.0 OliPof), and now I can't flash no rom to my Kaiser (which thankfully works quite well in Android).
What happens (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that "KAISDIAG.NBH" is a modified, standalone hardSPL that will flash to the phone the SPL that comes with the "KAISIMG.NBH" you put in your SD card with "KAISDIAG.NBH"). In my case, I used the WinMo 6.1 spanish version 3.29.412.0, which, resulted in my phone being flashed with the original SPL 3.29.
Now, it seems many users have fixed this locating the correct stock rom and flashing it in their Kaisers. But to others, like myself, nothing seems to work. I believe that this is because we not only need a stock rom for our specific Kaiser model, but also it has to be compatible with the SPL that accidentally got installed in the phone. The problem is what if such rom doesn't even exists?
I'm really thankfull for all I learned by reading the forums (and from my mistakes ) and I know I'm in no position to make requests, but here goes what I think could help the users like myself to fix this, if posible:
1) Guide to identify what model of Kaiser we have (maybe it's already there, I just couldn't find it)
2) Complete list (or lists) of stock roms (There are some around, those are easy to find I think, but it doesn't hurt to share different sources)
3) Something like a JumpSPL for Android would be more than awesome...
Thanks in advance to everybody, sorry for my own stupidity . Any idea or help would be much appreciated,
Daniel

hmm, I'm not sure if it has to be compatible with the SPL.
In my case, I was flashing a very old WWE stock rom which has original SPL 1.56.
I also had been very desperate because any stock rom I found seems doesn't work and I even didn't know where originally my kaiser came from because I get it from my uncle. So I tried to flash any WWE stock rom I could found but nothing works. I read from Wikipedia that based on my phone model (Kais100), this model was only sold as AT&T tilt for US. But the problem is my phone is HTC branded, not AT&T tilt. Well, based on this information I also tried to flash some cingular stock rom but the result was just the same.
After contacting HTC Customer care, I know more info about my phone. They told me that based on my phone product ID, my kaiser was originally shipped for US, but unfortunately they can't provide me stock rom for my phone model. So I searched myself but this time I had better objective : to search HTC branded rom but for US.
finally, after days of search. I've found the rom that is suitable for my phone. Its called HTC WWE Brightpoint US which has original SPL 3.29 at the bottom of the list on the website I told you on my previous post.
few weeks ago I also accidentally overwrite my HardSPL again, but this time I did it with the stock ROM which has original SPL 3.29. But this problem also solved by flashing the stock ROM I've found before via USB cable.
So, I guess it has nothing to do with spl version.
Keep tying don't give up.

Update: Step 1 completed! YAY
Using the serial number and some obscure google searching, I came to the conclusion my KAIS130 is australian. Cheers, mate!
I verified this by being able to download stock roms from the australian HTC site with my Kaiser serial number. But at the moment of writing this, have downloaded two roms and no luck yet. 5 minutes remaining for the third one... Wish me luck...
Daniel.

Well... Now what?
Tried all four rom-like thingies I could download on the HTC page, all of them returning error 294...
Now what? try to somehow extract the .nbhs from the exes and and use customRUU.exe? Try to flash from SD card?
Please help... Any ideas... I really want to get rid from that original SPL3.29.0000 It's evil!!! I think it won't never let me flash again.
Thanks,
Daniel

cuartetoraro said:
Tried all four rom-like thingies I could download on the HTC page, all of them returning error 294...
Now what? try to somehow extract the .nbhs from the exes and and use customRUU.exe? Try to flash from SD card?
Please help... Any ideas... I really want to get rid from that original SPL3.29.0000 It's evil!!! I think it won't never let me flash again.
Thanks,
Daniel
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sorry to hear that..
well, extract the .nbh from exe and flash it via sd card is the method that made me overwrite my hard SPL in the first place.
hmm, did your phone comes with operator brand, such as three or something?

-Rif- said:
sorry to hear that..
hmm, did your phone comes with operator brand, such as three or something?
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No, it's HTC unbranded. Now, something strange here: the label behind the battery has the serial number: HT830GB06075 and the P/N (guess it's part number) :99HCY194-00, but to the left of the camera, another label with the part number: 36H00563-00M and below says DATE:061107(TB02)/US.
I don't know if that's normal, but it caught my atention because my phone seems to have been dissasembled (little label over screw is teared). Maybe my Kaiser isn't Australian after all...