Apparently there is a known issue with the Microsoft bluetooth stack which makes it virtually useless to use this phone with Infiniti/Nissan vehicles.
I own a G37, and when I connect the Tilt, everything connects but the quality is sooooo poor that it sounds as if I have the phone in the house and the car is 100 ft away (crackling sound, and no one on the other end can hear me).
I have tried several of the roms here, including the official ones, and no luck thus far. I have tried playing around with the bitpool settings and once again no luck.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is there any way of replacing the Microsoft stack implementation from the Kaiser with the one from the Hermes? That one works perfectly with my car...
Have you tried Austinsync's clean rom? Its working fine with my M45 and I had the same problem you did with some other ROMs. Not sure if ROM change fixed it or one of the other hundred changes I make to my phone every other day. I assume you have adjusted the volume while in-call?
sell your car and buy American!
kireol said:
sell your car and buy American!
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Your phone is made by a Taiwanese manufacturer. I tried searching for a American-made cellphone so that you could immediately begin your purchasing prospects, but was stunned to find that there is not one American cellphone manufacturer.
Your profile picture looks somewhat like a Dodge Ram to me. You might be interested to know that Chrysler recently built a new $315M Dodge plant in Brazil. They also worked collaboratively with Mitsubishi and Hyundai to design 3 engines that will be manufactured mostly in South Korea and Japan.
But let me get back to the topic at hand. I own a 2007 G35S Sedan and I have had very minimal trouble with my Tilt and the handsfree system. Everything works fine, including the reception meter (never worked on my 8525, even with WM6 ROMs). The only problem that I have noticed is that if I answer an incoming call using the button on the steering wheel, the car appears to start the call, though the audio is routed through the phone for the first 10 seconds and then the car resumes control. It is worth noting that I couldn't get my 8525 (WM6) to work with the car at all - even with the latest and greatest.
I will borrow my dad's Kaiser (as mine was returned earlier today), and try the Austinsnyc's superstorage rom. Hope it works, although I think it's based on the base HTC rom. As I'm sure they're using the same Bluetooth stack, problem should be the same.
Either way, I'll try and report if it works.
As far as the buying American... I thought that whole marketing scheme went out the window a few years ago when Chrysler merged with Mercedes Benz, and most of our products are made in China (as our workers are not willing to work so cheap without going on strike)... don't you just love the beauty of the world economy?
klasikahl said:
Your phone is made by a Taiwanese manufacturer. I tried searching for a American-made cellphone so that you could immediately begin your purchasing prospects, but was stunned to find that there is not one American cellphone manufacturer.
Your profile picture looks somewhat like a Dodge Ram to me. You might be interested to know that Chrysler recently built a new $315M Dodge plant in Brazil. They also worked collaboratively with Mitsubishi and Hyundai to design 3 engines that will be manufactured mostly in South Korea and Japan.
But let me get back to the topic at hand. I own a 2007 G35S Sedan and I have had very minimal trouble with my Tilt and the handsfree system. Everything works fine, including the reception meter (never worked on my 8525, even with WM6 ROMs). The only problem that I have noticed is that if I answer an incoming call using the button on the steering wheel, the car appears to start the call, though the audio is routed through the phone for the first 10 seconds and then the car resumes control. It is worth noting that I couldn't get my 8525 (WM6) to work with the car at all - even with the latest and greatest.
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It was supposed to be a joke as it has nothing to do with the car. But since you wanted to act all high and mighty......
My Dodge ram was designed approximately 15 miles from my house. It was built 5.5 miles from my house. The company that built it employs approx 200,000+ direct employees and roughly 400,000 indirect, here in the U.S., where i live. At an average salary of $75,000 that's roughly 45,000,000,000 that the company that I buy my car from pumps back into the American economy. This does not include car dealers.
The 2007 G35S is designed in Japan. The 2007 G35S is built in Japan. The 2007 G35S employs maybe 1000 people here in the U.S. because someone has to import it and drive the boat, drive trucks, and do paper work. At an average salary(i'm sure it's way off but lets pretend) of $75,000 that's 75,000,000 that gets pumped back into the American economy. This does not include car dealers.
45,000,000,000 vs 75,000,000
yeah, you are right, it's all even. buy imported cars. it makes sense.
Thats EXACTLY the same problem with my 2007 G35 sedan and my HTC TYTN 2.
When i press the receive button, it takes 10-15 seconds to transfer over to the car audio (goes to the handset first).
THe only solution i have is to receive the call using the phone's talk button, which will go immediately to the car.
I am currently running Dutty's Touchflow Final 2 rom.
BTW. Before my G35, i had a 2006 Chrysler 300C Hemi rollin on 22's with full multimedia setup. My first domestic. I only owned imports before. After i came back to get my infinity G35 (after my major accident), i remember now why imports are so much better than domestci. The Infiniti is built like a ROCK, and the 300 was very crude in build quality.
Anyhow.
klasikahl said:
Your phone is made by a Taiwanese manufacturer. I tried searching for a American-made cellphone so that you could immediately begin your purchasing prospects, but was stunned to find that there is not one American cellphone manufacturer.
Your profile picture looks somewhat like a Dodge Ram to me. You might be interested to know that Chrysler recently built a new $315M Dodge plant in Brazil. They also worked collaboratively with Mitsubishi and Hyundai to design 3 engines that will be manufactured mostly in South Korea and Japan.
But let me get back to the topic at hand. I own a 2007 G35S Sedan and I have had very minimal trouble with my Tilt and the handsfree system. Everything works fine, including the reception meter (never worked on my 8525, even with WM6 ROMs). The only problem that I have noticed is that if I answer an incoming call using the button on the steering wheel, the car appears to start the call, though the audio is routed through the phone for the first 10 seconds and then the car resumes control. It is worth noting that I couldn't get my 8525 (WM6) to work with the car at all - even with the latest and greatest.
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No problems in my M45...
Maybe it's the car and not the phone?
I had a G35 prior to the Bluetooth option so I cant speak about the quality there but the M45 has been pretty good. the Tilt has a low out put at times but 95% of the time it connects perfectly with zero issues. beats using a headset imo
could be the car, but more than likely it's not... here's why:
I have successfully paired and used 2 tytn, 2 8125 (Wizard), and 1 ol' school SMT5600. All worked fine without any crackling, or the other person on the other end not hearing me...
On the other hand, I have tried 2 Kaisers and both exhibit the exact same things...
(btw, in the info screen about the bluetooth connection the connection shows up as "poor" for the kaisers, excellent for the rest...)
It's hard to believe that I'm the only a-hole that has the Kaiser/Tilt and G37 combo out there... anyone else having the same problem or am I alone on this one?
Did you not read my post? I have a Tytn 2 and a 2007 G35 sedan with the exact same problems as you.. Just use the Talk button on your phone to receive calls..
Arent you on G35drivers.com?
marsb007 said:
could be the car, but more than likely it's not... here's why:
I have successfully paired and used 2 tytn, 2 8125 (Wizard), and 1 ol' school SMT5600. All worked fine without any crackling, or the other person on the other end not hearing me...
On the other hand, I have tried 2 Kaisers and both exhibit the exact same things...
(btw, in the info screen about the bluetooth connection the connection shows up as "poor" for the kaisers, excellent for the rest...)
It's hard to believe that I'm the only a-hole that has the Kaiser/Tilt and G37 combo out there... anyone else having the same problem or am I alone on this one?
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Tilt + my Mercedes work great.
Same problem w/ Tilt & G35x
Not that I'm glad anyone is having this problem but glad to see it isn't just me. I started with an unlocked imported TyTN (Hermes) phone that worked perfectly in my '07 G35x purchased in May. I never had one problem pairing in the car, receiving or making calls, using voice commands via the car or audio quality.
As soon as I purchased my Tilt I immediately had problems in the G35x but not with any other bluetooth device (I also have a Garmin c550 and pair and make / receive calls with it without any problems).
I can pair the Tilt with the car - no problem. I can use voice commands to make a call - no problem. As soon as the phone starts to ring through the car speakers I can tell there will be a problem because the ring is very 'tinny'. I can hear the person answer and speak but they cannot hear me at all. I then put Dutty's ROM on the phone thinking maybe it was a stack issue that might have been resolved in a new ROM (assuming their had been updates to the BT stack). That did not make any difference.
I will by tomorrow test my corporate Blackberry in the car again. I had used it in the car via bluetooth while I had the Hermes - no problem. I will retest now that the Tilt isn't working.
Have any of you contacted Infiniti and / or AT&T? I could only assume until they have a quantity of calls will they say anything other than "not our problem" or, "never heard of that before".
If there are others with this problem it would be good for them to acknowledge their experience here along with any comparative good/bad feedback with other phones in the same and different car / devices.
Update: I've just tested my Blackberry 8700 that worked prior to pairing the Tilt with the G35. I can confirm that the Blackberry still works flawlessly. As the Tilt also works flawlessly with my Garmin device I think the cause is unclear but would appear to be with the Tilt as it is the only thing that has changed in the tests I've identified above.
Regards,
David
minirx7 said:
Did you not read my post? I have a Tytn 2 and a 2007 G35 sedan with the exact same problems as you.. Just use the Talk button on your phone to receive calls..
Arent you on G35drivers.com?
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well, one of the ways I use the phone also is calling out... when I dial the number and call from the phone, the car bluetooth connects and the crackling starts... (i call my voicemail to test).
besides being an Infiniti/Nissan issue, it appears it is far more widespread... there's already a 20 page thread on BT and Kaiser! from that thread it appears HTC is aware of the issue and is working on an upgraded stack/rom... everyone cross your fingers and hope that one works!
Could you provide the link to that thread?
Thanks,
David
marsb007 said:
well, one of the ways I use the phone also is
calling out... when I dial the number and call from the phone, the car bluetooth connects and the crackling starts... (i call my voicemail to test).
besides being an Infiniti/Nissan issue, it appears it is far more widespread... there's already a 20 page thread on BT and Kaiser! from that thread it appears HTC is aware of the issue and is working on an upgraded stack/rom... everyone cross your fingers and hope that one works!
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SteinyD said:
Could you provide the link to that thread?
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David
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here ya go... hope someone finds a fix soon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329270
Thanks .. I hope HTC truly has acknowledged the issue and is working on it. I sent an email tonight to HTC America and hope to get a favorable response soon.
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here ya go... hope someone finds a fix soon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329270
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Multiple solutions...
I'm using Dutty's TouchFlo Final Rom and I'm not having any problems with my 2006 M. So maybe you can try that ROM.
But on the M, I did have horrible problems with my E-Ten M500+ (continous feedback...C R A Z Y), and limited functionalities with my 3125. Both of those problems were solved instantly with this software: http://www.jetwaremobile.com/ They offer 30 day trial of their software, so try it.
marsb007 said:
well, one of the ways I use the phone also is calling out... when I dial the number and call from the phone, the car bluetooth connects and the crackling starts... (i call my voicemail to test).
besides being an Infiniti/Nissan issue, it appears it is far more widespread... there's already a 20 page thread on BT and Kaiser! from that thread it appears HTC is aware of the issue and is working on an upgraded stack/rom... everyone cross your fingers and hope that one works!
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I do not have this issue with my g35... I do not get any crackling.. Its only when i try to receive calls, it delays like 10-15 seconds!!!
Making calls is NON-issue...
it really is crazy... I've tried that particular rom and it has the exact same problem. I have also tried the Jetware bluetooth stack, and once again, it does the same thing. I've tried about 5-6 different roms, from super clean roms, bigstorage, to the latest build numbers that I could find, and all do the exact same thing. I've played around with the bitpool settings, audiogateway settings, and nothing...
It may be that the combination of the G37 + Tilt just has something in there that makes it go crazy. Could be the car, but as I've said earlier, all other phones work, including the Hermes, without any problems whatsoever.
Anyone out there with a G37 willing to give the Tilt a try? I'm about to go to the dealer and pair it with other cars to see if it works!
If you have the G37 (coupe I guess?) then you have the 2008, right? I know they switched to the new hard drive based system. So maybe they don't have all the bugs worked out. Top it all off, MS's bluetooth stack is kinda shaky, so it might be amplifying the problem.
I don't see any service bulletins relating to this issue on your car either: http://x.infinitihelp.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=86 I doubt that Voice Recog system update will fix your bluetooth issues...but then it might. Worth a try.
marsb007 said:
it really is crazy... I've tried that particular rom and it has the exact same problem. I have also tried the Jetware bluetooth stack, and once again, it does the same thing. I've tried about 5-6 different roms, from super clean roms, bigstorage, to the latest build numbers that I could find, and all do the exact same thing. I've played around with the bitpool settings, audiogateway settings, and nothing...
It may be that the combination of the G37 + Tilt just has something in there that makes it go crazy. Could be the car, but as I've said earlier, all other phones work, including the Hermes, without any problems whatsoever.
Anyone out there with a G37 willing to give the Tilt a try? I'm about to go to the dealer and pair it with other cars to see if it works!
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Hey guys,
just realesed another video about the HD2. This time i paired my HD2 with the Motorola MOTOROKR T05. Its a Bluetooth In-Car Speakerphone for calls and musicstream with a inbuild digital FM-Transmitter. You can pair any device with the T505 and play music or take calls with a inbuild speaker or via digital FM-Transmitter through your car speakers. Its possible to control the phone with the buttons on the T505. The T505 has a own battery so there is no need for a cable. It gets charged with any miniUSB cable where ever you get power.
Its a very easy and nice solution for your HD2 in your car. It makes it possible to have a legal call while driving (in germany you get in trouble when you touch your phone while driving) and listening to internet radiostreams .
My video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=934Yo010WIA
HD ready in a few mins...
Vendors page
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/t505/
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...akerphone-with-Digital-FM-Transmitter-US-EN-2
http://motorola.pairx.co.uk/?l=38&a=0&pp=536&sm=17&sp=780&j=45858&jd=1261064698000
What about hands free dialling?
I'm about to upgrade from my Touch Pro to the HD2.
I already have a T505 that i love (simple, reliable & small), but i'm wondering if you can get Voice Dialling up on the HD2 just like you can on the Touch Pro i currently have by just pushing the call button?
Thanks
Ben
BGM said:
I'm about to upgrade from my Touch Pro to the HD2.
I already have a T505 that i love (simple, reliable & small), but i'm wondering if you can get Voice Dialling up on the HD2 just like you can on the Touch Pro i currently have by just pushing the call button?
Thanks
Ben
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hey, i missed the postman today but tomorrow i shall get back my hd2 and i can tell you exactly. by voice dailing you mean you push a button on the t505 and the hd2 askes you what number you whish to call and you speak out the saved name for it and hd2 starts calling the number?
well i didnt try this so far because i never used it before, as i remember right microsoft has an application for it? because i dont know if the hd2 has.
yep, that's what i meant.
I've realised now though that the HD2 doesn't have the feature built-in, even though the T505 works well for it.
bgm
T505 with HD2 Bluetooth
Hi
I have just bought a HD2 T9193 Aus version so its compatible with AT&T ..which it is.
I have a T505 (which I love) but does not allow voice commands... works great other wise...some one calls you or you dial manually from the list or favorites.. will keep looking for a solution... bummer
I picked up a SGT from Verizon and am having trouble with bluetooth. It won't pair with either a Jabra or Motorola brand headset. I can get it to pair with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard, but it won't connect. It just says "Paired", but does not function. I'm using Skype and GV on this and would love to be able to use a bluetooth headset. Is this unique to the Verizon model? Has anyone else had better luck with a T-Mobile model?
Thanks!
Apparently vzw left the bluetooth HID out (unlike tmo). So the vzw tab can pair with keyboards and mice, but cannot connect to them. There are hid drivers in the market, but I haven't tried any yet. I have a bt keyboard on order. I tried a mouse,it paired fine but wouldn't connect. There have been many reports of this.
BT headsets haven't had any issues that I have heard. My moto s9hd paired and connected the first time and has been ready whenever I have needed it.
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I have the T-Mo version and I can connect and pair BUT...
Audio from the other person plays through the BT headset and your voice is via the Tab's microphone... I put the Tab in another room and made a call and all the other person could hear was the TV in the other room.. Once I walked back and picked up the Tab they could hear me...
TMO Profiles?
I have a Sprint Tab and it pairs but refuses to connect. I'm wondering if there's some way to extract the TMO drivers from the device, and stick them elsewhere. Also, I don't know a lot about the bluetooth driver architecture. What exactly is it missing? The kernel drivers for it? Or some other thing?
I had the same trouble with my Jawbone and Think Outside stowaway keyboard.
I called Verizon about this and the tech told me they had no profile for headsets or HID. They have stereo headphone support for music.
Very disappointing that they would do extra work to remove functionality, but I'm certain a good rom will become available that fixes this Verizon blunder.
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What I'm reading is that Android doesn't actually support BT HID in this release. I'm still wondering if it could be extracted from TMO or some of the European releases and pushed with ADB.
The other thing I'm wondering is about CyanogenMod. They've had an experimental bluetooth HID thing that's been working decently, or so say the posts, for a few months now. I'm wondering if it's a high enough level of abstraction that it could just be put variously on any device, as long as the processor architecture was the same (or is it up in the java level so that doesn't even matter?)
I know nothing, to be honest, but wanted to just advance a few questions. Not sure how many people are actually interested in BT HID, but for me, it's a dealbreaker for whether or not I hand this device back in.
I've had the same problems with my Verizon SGT. Verizon apparently deleted some Bluetooth drivers. Why? I don't know. This is the only problem I have come across with my tab. If anyone knows of a driver that will connect Bluetooth devices to the SGT please reply. I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks