Every now and then it happens : spam posts on this forum.
And i don't mean the posting of auctions on ebay. If they are from commercial shops I consider them spam. but for a regular person wanting to sell something I accept them.
And if they post them in off-topic I don't mind but anywhere else :twisted:
But replying on them only gives them more importance than they should, keeping them on the top of the list. So my suggestion is that one persons answers with NO SPAM
and everyone else just ignore them.
I couldn't agree more!
@dcs : I know, it was your post that put me on to this.
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Help me define. Simple HOW OFF is Off-Topic?
Does anyone know...?
lol... give your best shot.. IQ
LEGO comes to mind.
I never see people here helping each other build cool lego models..
So in other words, you're asking what's OFF Limits in a OFF-TOPIC section? Hmmm .... threats of any kind, damning or belittling(sp?) someone else's religious or political beliefs, making fun of people physical/emotional/psychological disabilities even if it's your friends or family member. Promoting racism, child porn, child abuse, advocating violence, and supporting rape is a definite no no and barbaric in my book. Making fun of someone's grief over a death of a friend or family is also barbaric.
Or how off limits can you be Off Topics section without being banned? As some say, the sky is the limit, but here, the limit is the sky, lol. Child rearing and relational issues are within the bounds in this section, which I haven't heard much about here. But who knows
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Help me define. Simple HOW OFF is Off-Topic?
Does anyone know...?
lol... give your best shot.. IQ
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Your previous post, sending people to survey links would definitely be off limits. Creating threads for free webhosting sites over and over again would also be off limits. Spam is something we try to avoid. Members help by alerting mods to these types of posts. Violators can be warned or banned, depending on the severity of their actions.
I'd also agree with the things robosiris said earlier, as we'd like to keep this forum a friendly place for all to enjoy.
Other than that, off-topic is pretty open. Lego Mindstorm projects would be a great topic
...so off-topic isnt really Off-Topic? or is Everything aother than xda phones
NOT SPAM JUST READ ON...( For MODERATOR )
or is anything other than xda phones, softwares and gadgets considered as SPAM. Yes i do agree maybe I erred since I was kinda "zit" where the "limit" of Off-topic was concerned, no one would expect it to be so ENTIRELY "LIMITED"...
I STRONGLY agree 1000% with "robosiris" stuff like that should NEVER be tolerated... and commend XDA moderators+ for being swift on posts and for implementing this feature in their Administration.
Ok then, is it better to QUIT Off-Topic? Since "Off" is not yet defined...
SINCE the statement below contradicts the usual statements i get... "your topic is not related to phones, etc..... always about xda phones... and so on..."
Then IS THAT "Off-Topic"? yet according to Alex (moderator)... Of-topic is Defined...as pretty much Free..
""Your previous post, sending people to survey links would definitely be off topic. Creating threads for free webhosting sites over and over again would also be off topic. Spam is something we try to avoid. Members help by alerting mods to these types of posts. Violators can be warned or banned, depending on the severity of their actions.
I'd also agree with the things robosiris said earlier, as we'd like to keep this forum a friendly place for all to enjoy.
Other than that, off-topic is pretty open. Lego Mindstorm projects would be a great topic ""
MOD...(ALEX) Help Me... Determine what i did wrong... then "zit" THIS Post..
aftershock said:
NOT SPAM JUST READ ON...( For MODERATOR )
or is anything other than xda phones, softwares and gadgets considered as SPAM. Yes i do agree maybe I erred since I was kinda "zit" where the "limit" of Off-topic was concerned, no one would expect it to be so ENTIRELY "LIMITED"...
I STRONGLY agree 1000% with "robosiris" stuff like that should NEVER be tolerated... and commend XDA moderators+ for being swift on posts and for implementing this feature in their Administration.
Ok then, is it better to QUIT Off-Topic? Since "Off" is not yet defined...
SINCE the statement below contradicts the usual statements i get... "your topic is not related to phones, etc..... always about xda phones... and so on..."
Then IS THAT "Off-Topic"? yet according to Alex (moderator)... Of-topic is Defined...as pretty much Free..
""Your previous post, sending people to survey links would definitely be off topic. Creating threads for free webhosting sites over and over again would also be off topic. Spam is something we try to avoid. Members help by alerting mods to these types of posts. Violators can be warned or banned, depending on the severity of their actions.
I'd also agree with the things robosiris said earlier, as we'd like to keep this forum a friendly place for all to enjoy.
Other than that, off-topic is pretty open. Lego Mindstorm projects would be a great topic ""
MOD...(ALEX) Help Me... Determine what i did wrong... then "zit" THIS Post..
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I've changed my post to read 'off-limits' instead of 'off-topic' in two key areas, which should hopefully make more sense.
It was late and I didn't realize I was using the same words to explain myself, which tends to lead to a very confusing response
i simple do not know and even do not care what is in and what out - off topic.
but .... am glad to have a place where i can relax and read some other stuff than all about htc devices.
this is where i go when i need to get three steps back and after a while again move forwards install applications, customize, soft reset, hard reset, browse and read off topic, install applications, customize, soft reset, hard ... ;-)
cheers
Edit: Well, I guess now the original thread has been deleted. I guess that's what I get for questioning authority.
Well I didn't close it, but having looked at the newer thread I can see why it was closed. Perhaps a word or two in a final post might have helped.
I can see why you say that it is not an "out and out" religious thread, BUT it does clearly invite religious discussion in the first post when it asks
"is God testing us?"
The above is the reason for closure, I assume you have highlighted a discrepancy with our rules - it has, for as long as I can remember, been against the rules to discuss religion, whilst being OK to merely mention what religion you are. We have also ignored brief good wishes posts related to religious festivals.
Mike
Please point me in the direction of this rule sheet that says religion is not to be discussed.
New forum rules, please read!
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Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
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You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
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We understand that with all the different nationalities not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English use an online translator, You're free to include your original message in your own language below the English translation.
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As a large forum we don't need unnecessary clutter, You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time, it might take a while before you receive an answer.
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If you wish to advertise a product, contact us we provide ads. But do not post it in the forums, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban.
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These are the only set of rules that I've found, and I see nothing about religion in them. If it is indeed against the rules to discuss religion, maybe it should be put into the rule sheet.
And there is no need to apologize with a thread that ended with photoshopped steven seagal pictures...It was going wayyyyy off-topic anyway...Oh...wait...that's another thread...
But still, my point of not having to apologize still stays...
I sent a PM to the-equinoxe about it.
He said it's a rule that threads about Religion are not allowed.
I believe him when he says that; but the way he closed the thread is something I don't really understand.
BTW fiktion are you the starter of that thread?
Nope. I didn't even post in it. I just didn't agree with why and how it was closed.
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Edit: Well, I guess now the original thread has been deleted. I guess that's what I get for questioning authority.
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you guessed wrong.
OP of thread you where referring to, requested for the thread to be deleted.
[ElCondor] said:
I sent a PM to the-equinoxe about it.
He said it's a rule that threads about Religion are not allowed.
I believe him when he says that; but the way he closed the thread is something I don't really understand.
BTW fiktion are you the starter of that thread?
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-see mikechannon's reply re. religion.
My closing post in the religious and OT thread was clear:
"This is a Technology forum and not a forum to discuss religion.
(as stated in the forum rules).
Hence this thread is closed."
What did you want to see more?
BTW. Fiction has nothing to do with thread, he even didn't post in it.
If you guys want to discuss religion, feel free to do so in forums who are actually made for that kind of discussions.
Closing this thread also, because this discussion leads to nowhere.
About this thread - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631416
What's wrong with links? Could I talk to the administrator on MSN Messenger or Google Voice about the links issue? I see no reason that that link should have been removed. Can someone clarify? Thanks.
Another thing - why can't we post links before our accounts are verified by a moderator? Is it because there aren't enough moderators to continuously moderate and ban spambots?
I'm not trying to be mean I just want to know.
Read what Fallen Spartan wrote. Seriously. He says exactly why the thread was closed and the link was deleted.
And yes, I think it's safe to assume that the reason your account has to be verified by a moderator is because of the influx of spam trolls.
TechieGeek = Spam Troll
fiktion is correct. New users aren't able to use links until they have posted 8 or more times. This is to help combat against spammers. For the same reason the first posts made by all new users have to be verified by moderators
I hope you understand our reasoning
Rick
I'm waiting for the day that there is a simple authentication service for any forum running VB. That way your posts are linked between forums (I hang out on anandtech and resellerratings) and things like this wouldn't be a problem. Even though this brings up a whole new issue of rules being different between forums.
In an effort to decrease what seems to be a growing number of complaints over useless, counter-productive posts (which in my humble opinion, are in and of themselves, also useless, counter-productive posts) I've started this thread.
Got a problem with a stupid, useless, thread-clogging post?
Want to flame someone endlessly for not reading the thread before posting? Or not reading the Original Post? Or asking a question that was clearly answered three posts before?
Cut and paste it, list it here and comment on it. Then if possible, PM the perceived wrongdoer and let them know. Or let them know as part of your next "useful" post by adding a short comment and a link to this thread. Take the fight or argument off-thread! That way, the complaints that you would be tempted to post in the affected thread, won't cause the very thing you're complaining about!
If anyone likes this idea, add the link to this thread in your signature...please don't PM me telling me you don't like this thread...
First Complaint
This is a waste of space.
All posts I make are a waste of space AND time.
The ironic thing is, although a majority of the posts on XDA qualify for this, watch this thread be the one that's the least commented in. Oh irony.
Oh NO!!!! It's Mr Bill!!!
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All posts I make are a waste of space AND time.
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@ tnpapadakos
*sights*... how do I put this?....
There is no flaming allowed ANYWHERE in this site. Not even in Off Topic regarding to anything else. By opening this thread, you are in essence encouraging people to be rude to others, allowing them to "vent" against others. Users are not allowed to be disrespectful or flame at any time in this site. If a user does, then he/she is breaking forum rules and moderators will act accordingly. The little triangle with the exclamation sign on each post is so that anyone can let us know if any of this is going on...
I am going to close this thread simply because the only thing that you wanted this thread to do is causing users to do exactly that. They are flaming you and posting comments that serve no other purpose other than... well, flaming the OP.
If you would like to revisit this case, pm me and I will be more than happy to talk it over with the other mods. But for now...
thread closed.
Here is a warning to all members.
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.
If you violate this rule in any way I will remove the link, close the thread and issue a permanent ban to the member(s) involved and issue a 1 week ban to anyone that downloads it!
This is your first and final warning!
Any links or files posted will be reviewed by myself and other members of the moderation and administrative staff.
So it is YOUR responsibility, as a member and contributer to ensure that this rule is enforced at all times! This will not be up for debate.
What do you do if you see a questionable post?
You can either report the post or you can send me a private message and it will be dealt with immediately. You will be completely anonymous.
What do you do if you post a thread and attach a paid app (to include crack, keygen, key, serial, etc)
You remove your post immediately and report the post or send me a private message immediately with details explaining the mistake. We will review the post and more than likely no correctable action will be taken upon you.
What if you make a mistake by posting a paid app and not know it?
Too bad... so sad. You had your warning. I know that this is harsh but I don't want any excuses or lies and I must be fair and rule everyone the same. No exception.
Are you a develeper and want to sample your app here?
Great! We always welcome productivity and development! That is, after all what we're all about.
Please attach your file and your contact information such as website, details of your app and screenshots if possible.
If you have any other questions feel free to contact me or another moderator.
I will be keeping this thread open for 72 hours for Q&A regarding this already existing policy.
Thanks for your cooperation.
This topic has had almost a hundred views and not one person had a question or statement about it. I find that interesting because I know that in a few days some poor soul will send an e-mail to XDA-Developers with something like:
"Why did I get banned? I didn't know that wasn't a rule. Can I get a second chance? I won't do it again."
And do you know what we will do? We will post it for the moderation team to review, I will post this link to this topic and say only three words "They were warned" and case close. Then we'll probably have a laugh about it.
So again... DO NOT DO IT!
This topic will be closed by nights end (that is in about four hours from now) so you have until then to say your piece.
Alright, 122 views and not one reply in the 72 hours that this has been posted.
Topic closed and rule is now in full effect.
I'm going to start going through now and removing posts and banning members if applicable.