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Rikaline 6010 GPS to xda Car Kit

Hi everybody,
I've got problems with connecting my Rikaline 6010 to the Car Kit. With the help of the forum I know now, wich pins I have to connect together. But I'm not be able to bring power to the Mouse. I have the +5V and GND connected but the LED on the mouse won't turn on. With a simple car adapter for the mouse and the xda it works perfect. I try to look inside the cable of the car adapter and it looks lite the cable, I build myself.
Maybe I have to short some pins inside the connector ??
Does anybody have a Rikaline 6010 successful connected to the xda car kit ?
thanks a lot
rob.

Make sure the switched power supply is connected.
I assume you are using the official XDA carkit.
I did some reverse engineering on this carkit and found that the GPS powerline is only working if the switched power line for the carkit is connected.
After disconnecting this line the GPS power will stay on for 1 hour and then automatically switch of.
Have you checked if there is power on the GPS connector of the carkit when nothing is connected? Maybe the current demand is to high? For pinlayout check www.vanhemert.biz
Francois

Hi Francois,
I think my problem is not the car kit. After it doesn't work with the carkit, I tried to connect my car-adapter-cable with the cable, I made myself to the gps-mouse. And also there, the mouse doesn't get power. So I simply put +5V and GND to the pins of the mouse-connection and it doesn't work.
Maybe GND must be connected to two pins or to the GND-pin AND the PS2-connector's metall ?
I think, I have to buy a H203e to make it work....
rob.

Pinlayout
I have looked at the data sheet (http://www.rikaline.com/pdf/gps-6010-manual-e.pdf) and it looks straightforward. Pin 2 and 4 should do the job but I can imagine that you need a correct RS232 signal to get the thing up and running. Are you sure that the LED is just an indication of power or does it only light if power and RS-232 is correct?
As you can see in the schematics on my website I had trouble opening the COM port on my XDA, Communication just did not start unless I pulled the DCD line (pin 6) to Vcc. This will activate Active sync in the same way as the original cable set I used to have.
Good luck,
Francois

Hi,
thanks for your reply. The LED on the GPS-Mouse have to turn on simply by bringing power to it. I've tried that by using my car adapter cable and simply connect the mouse to the cable and not connect the xda...and the LED turns on.
I've ordered today a Hi203E and I will try to conncet it as you described on your homepage....hope it will work (if not, I'll be back ;-))
thanks a lot
rob.

Hi Francois,
today I received my Hi203e and I will try to connect it to the carkit.
One Question:
Is the connector, which is shown on your homepage and labeled with "to gps" the female connector, which is wired to the gps-mouse or the male connector, which is wired on the selfmade cable between carkit and PS2-connector of the mouse ??
thanks
rob.

hi,
ok, my previous question is now obsolet. The connector, which is wired to the Hi203e, is male (at my Rikaline6010 it is female). So I have to buy a female connector and build new cable. I made a first test by bringing the +5V and GND of the carkit over an adaptercable to the gps-mouse and (yippie) it worked. The LED on the mouse turns on !! Looks pretty good.
...to be continued (if I have the new connector...)
rob.

Hi Francois,
I've got it now and it works perfect. Thanks again for the Info's on your webpage.
2 points:
I've got a low noise (frequently repeated) in the speaker, when the gps is active. Is there something to do against that ?
And how can I stop the activation of active-sync, when i put the xda into the carkit ?
Do you know that ?
thanks
rob

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rob said:
I've got a low noise (frequently repeated) in the speaker, when the gps is active. Is there something to do against that ?
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I would guess this is the speaker wire picking up the GSM signal, nothing to do with the GPS. Try re-aligning so that the wires relative to the antenna of the XDA. If that doesn't work, you could experiment with ferrite beads (these ugly black blocks on all modern cables) on the wires.

Same problem here, but...
I found that if I start serial communication with the GPS unit, i will hear some interferance via the speaker. It looks like the auto mute functions does not work immediatlly after inserting the XDA and "the connection is left open".
Workaround:
Pressing the red phone button to generate a tone (keypress) activates the automute and the interferance will disappear. (at least is does in my case)
Auto start of the active sync process:
This is caused by the DCD line pulled to Vcc. I first owned a standard GPS Y-cable (XDA/GPS/Lighter) and it showed the same behaviour. My first experiment was to not use the DCD line (just gnd, tx and rx)but at that time TomTom could not open the COM port. I did no further investigation but one of the forum members suggested to disable the IR connection and auto sync, this should free the com port to TomTom and not start active sync automatically. Again I have not tested it but if you will, i am interested.
Good luck,
francois

hi,
Been reading this thread with alot of interest...
can someone help me with a problem, I have the O2 carkit installed in my car, and i also have a rikaline 6010 that i would like to attach it.
I have found the GPS connector that i need to attach the GPS reciever to but when i check the connector for +5v its not there...
Does anyone know where i can connect it to... looks like the person who connect my carkit could'nt be bothered about connecting up the GPS connector properly...
and also the colour of wires that everyone mentions, mine are a different colour...
i have the following from my rikaline reciever, 4 in total...
red
black
green
white
does anyone know what connects to what????
Many Thanks
Zetex

Rikalinegps 6010 with cables - from eBay
This receiver is available with cable for XDA via eBay (see link below), but you guys have got me worried. I'm thinking of buying the Rikaline 6010 but am I going to have to do all this business of rewiring etc? What's the economical way of buying all the other bits that I need (Software, Car Kit etc)?
I'm looking for some easy to follow advice. Keep it simple please.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4668&item=3094896604&rd=1
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Produce a Cable for Garmins Geko ?

Hello,
i've bought from the haids.de one connector for the T-Mobile MDA and annother one for the garmin geko gps.
I want build a cable to connect my mda with the garmin gps geko 201.
I'm looking for a construction manual.
At this site http://www.pocketnavigation.de/startf.htm
you can find a description for a ipaq cable. Look under WORKSHOP and Datenkabel.
Thanks for the HELP,
Peet

Check out this site. I ordered a cable combo for the same setup as you. I haven't received it yet but I'm confident it will be what I need. Good luck - Jim
http://www.pc-mobile.net/gps.htm

The cable combo (gpexda) I got works great. it's a gedc+gxdap+ck203+puc2.
It was about $47.50 - it includes the geko 201 to xda + power cord + cigarette lighter adapter.
It's from http://www.pc-mobile.net/gps.htm

GPS RS232 to XDA

Hallo, I'm from germany and i've got an Laptop-GPS with RS232 and PS/2 conectors and i would like to know if there is any possibility to built an adaptercabel?
Then i don't have to buy a new GPS antenna.
Thanks for answering

If your gps is made by Haicom or similar, the adaptor lead containing power and data connections are only £15 here in UK, lot less trouble than obtaining an xda connector and trying to solder the connections, if you get power in the wrong place you have no xda or gps.

Hello,
my GPS is build by GARMIN. It's a GPS 35-LVS. I don't know, if it is similar to a Haicom. Maybe anyone else knows it.

You can use a serial cable + null modem adapter which is no problem.
The biggest problem for you is how to power the GPS.
I understand it is normally powered by PS2 so you need to find an adapter so that you can power it in car or use batteries.
You may be better off buying another GPS.

Hi PC-Mobile,
thanks for your answer, thats the way i supposed. In my opinion i can use a powersupply that makes 5V out of 12V. Than i get power for both, the XDA and the GPS.
Thats the cheapest way for me, the null-modem cabel i can build myself and seriel cabel is easy to buy.

Look here.
Regards, Tore

Bargain: Athena docking station (genuine HTC) [DE/AT/CH]

Today my genuine HTC Advantage Docking Station CR B140 arrived. I bought it from a german dealer and it was a steal for only 22.99€ (+4.99€ S/H), compared to the MSRP of 99.99€ that Expansys demands ($99.99 in the U.S.)
What was strange, though, the station arrived in a simple bubble wrap, no other packaging, no manual, nothing else. OK, for 77% off I really don't care, maybe these are some surplus or end-of-line clearance parts. In any case, the station is brandnew, completely unused and working. So if you would like to steal one, too, have a go at:
http://www.phonetec24.com/indexc.php?Artnr=10028916
Sorry, their website mentions only Germany, Austria and Switzerland as destinations. However, they accept Paypal, and maybe they will ship worldwide, if you ask kindly.
Disclaimer: except for being a customer, I am not connected to phonetec24 in any other way!

for real? or spam?
Is this for real? Anybody have an idea?
Ciao!

Re: for real? or spam?
jetherson said:
Is this for real? Anybody have an idea?
Ciao!
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Why don't you just click on the link and check it our for yourself?

Delivery ONLY to DE/CH/AT
As I heard from theseas from Greece who mailed them, they are obviously not willing to send to countries other than Germany, Switzerland and Austria. Not even to other EU countries. Sorry, folks :-(
R, Michael

mfschneider said:
As I heard from theseas from Greece who mailed them, they are obviously not willing to send to countries other than Germany, Switzerland and Austria. Not even to other EU countries. Sorry, folks :-(
R, Michael
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Yes guys sorry for not posting it. I have already mailed them and asked them if they can post the station to greece and their response was negative. very disapointing.

I'm planning to buy one for my advantage
I'm interested in the "2 x female usb port". Can it support USB flash drives? Coz I really need to find a way to connect USB flash drives to my phone. And another thing, does the dock have to be connected to the power outlet all the time? or is it recheargable? thanks

Hello ,
Is possible with the X7500 on the cradle to connect the audio line out ?
I see a lot of connections (AV , usb , VGA) but no audio line out ?
Because if you connect to a videoprojector via the cradle , how do you connect the audio output ?
Thanks ,
JF

@Jeff72fr:
The docking station offers the following connections:
- A/V interface: VGA port (15pin), video out port, S-video port (4 Pin), 3.5mm audio jack
- Charging & syncing interface: miniUSB port for power charging and synchronisation, 2 x USB standard A female ports (USB host), 2nd battery charging slot
- LED indicators: power, sync, 2nd batt charging
@santi_g:
I must admit, I haven't used any usb devices yet on my athena, I don't even know how to use them ;-) Simply plugging in some usb stick does not work for me, the stick's light stays off, and file explorer doesn't show it. I probably need some driver for it.
You probably overrate the function of a docking station, it's just a simple box offering easier access to the connectors, and a convenient place to charge the device. So not having the docking station plugged in is of no big use, and therefore there is nothing to recharge the docking station -- only the device's batteries (internal and spare).

I have used up to 16G Flash Drive using my ebay acquired docking station. Though it comes out only if I use resco file explorer. There was even a time when I used my flash drive with a usb mouse through an octopus usb port.

mfschneider said:
@Jeff72fr:
The docking station offers the following connections:
- A/V interface: VGA port (15pin), video out port, S-video port (4 Pin), 3.5mm audio jack
- Charging & syncing interface: miniUSB port for power charging and synchronisation, 2 x USB standard A female ports (USB host), 2nd battery charging slot
- LED indicators: power, sync, 2nd batt charging
@santi_g:
I must admit, I haven't used any usb devices yet on my athena, I don't even know how to use them ;-) Simply plugging in some usb stick does not work for me, the stick's light stays off, and file explorer doesn't show it. I probably need some driver for it.
You probably overrate the function of a docking station, it's just a simple box offering easier access to the connectors, and a convenient place to charge the device. So not having the docking station plugged in is of no big use, and therefore there is nothing to recharge the docking station -- only the device's batteries (internal and spare).
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Thanks a lot for your your reply.
I use my X7500 at home to listen to internet radios.It easier to have the docking station connected to my Hifi system.I just have to plug in the X7500 on the craddle without always connect and disconnect the electricity plug and the audio line.
Unfortunately I'm french so they can't send it to me.
I have a friend who's working in switzerland and and will try with him.
JF

I googled and found this: http://www.mytrendyphone.com/shop/htc-cr-b140-docking-14003p.html&togglevat=1&VariantIdSelected=0
They seem to ship everywhere and have reasonable pricing as well.

does anyone had a chance to buy this dock and figure out whether it is original, i.e identical as compared to what HTC offers or not

I have one like that
I have one and it is exactly the same as posted before.
It works really well But it is a little tricky to place the Athena in it. I'll get used to it.

reason I am asking is that is going to be my next buy ..... therefore knowing whether it is (looking and working like) oryginal is crucial as there are many different ameo docks with partial funcionality (as compared to the original one) available
the thing is I have been querying about dock from that german location / shop

I bought an original HTC docking station for my X7510 at expansys without any problem : it is 30€ right now !

Kasush said:
I googled and found this: http://www.mytrendyphone.com/shop/htc-cr-b140-docking-14003p.html&togglevat=1&VariantIdSelected=0
They seem to ship everywhere and have reasonable pricing as well.
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Thank you for that link! I just ordered from them, unfortunately they don't ship to ALL countries, so I had it sent to relatives in the States who are visiting soon, but the price, including shipping, was less than GBP25. Definitely less than the $80 most places are asking.
And of course the usual disclaimers: I don't work for them etc.,.

help with at&t titl

i have kaiser at&t us vertion
i need to use Headphone on it
can any one help me

plug in a headset or buy a bluetooth one.

You need an adapter. Take a look here:
http://store.wmexperts.com/att-tilt-headset-adapters.htm
Good luck.

Headphones
It really depends upon what type of headphones that you have.
There are headphones available that will plug directly into the Kaiser's serial port.
But if you have the headphones that have a round plug, then you would need to purchase an adapter in order to use it.