We and I say We all need to particaipate in the updating of the wiki.xda-developers.com
Short Version:
Who is willing to build the frame work of the BlueAngel in wiki.xda-developers.com
Long Version:
If you look at:
wiki.xda-developers.com
Its great!! Unless you own a Blueangel.
Well I do!
Personally I am sick of reading the same stuff about fix.bat over and over again.
Personally It has taken me a few weeks to get were I am Now and yes I have been able to find out a lot but it was Painful.
I Still have outstanding questions that were not answered for at the time I asked then they were just plain "Stupid".
A Newbie asking a question based on his limited knowledge.
We still see these questions, also left unanswered.
So as we have all been Newbie's playing with our new toys, should we not help others based on what we have learnt.
I have spent some time looking at that Blueangle and posting a few topics.
What I still have is a collection of How to for the BlueAngle that I feel are wrong if placed in the forum.
These are at the moment finished.
How to: Find out what my device is before upgrading
Goes into GetDeviceData, explains the fact why you only see the device name if opened on the device, ect ect.
How to: Find the correct upgrade ROM for me
Based on the get device info,
goes into how to find the upgrade, understanding the naming of the ship file, checking if it has a password
all based on a real example with real threads
How to: Install a upgrade and what tools to use.
All based on what was found before
all based on a real example with real threads
I am working
How to: Upgrade radio
Also based on the same as above.
One can add to that the Extended rom stuff out of the Rom kitchen.
Now here is my problem.
- I cant do this alone
- I have no Idea about how to do even basic web pages
- My spelling sucks.
So my contributions to this project is:
I have 3 canned inputs and am will to add to them.
So all we need:
1) A Person that understands how to update the wiki.xda-developers.com and thus build a frame work that we all can build on.
2) A place to take about it and make suggestion or corrections
--> which we have in this topic.
3) A starting point
---> being my canned input.
And that reads only as:
Who is willing to build the frame work of the BlueAngel in wiki.xda-developers.com.
Although many people read this forum, and a large number help on answering questions in the forum.
only a few make great posts in the forum, and even less put something in WIKI. Although with the knowledge gathered here I believe this wiki has the potential of being the best reference on the net.
I would be available for help on editing/checking whatever you put in WIKI, if you want me to. Just let me know what you want me to do in detail.
M4io
Thanks.
I understand what you are saying however my main problem is building the frame work.
At the stage of the game I am not even able post a Quote with out getting the Quote text
MDAIIIUser Wrote:
Who is willing to build the frame work of the BlueAngel in wiki.xda-developers.com
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See what I mean.
Others can do it, me no way
We can go further on my lack of forum knowelege.
In the past I used to start off by hitting the bold, qoute, ect buttions so that I had a list to cut and paste from.
Now I GROWN and can just mark the text and hit the bold.
See .... I would get so lost trying to link the first page to the next.
You would end up on one of my personal links and your wife would not be amused.
Think the edit / checking is a great option, thanks for that!
but do we have any takers for the frame work part.
Well if this newbie could figure anything out I would help you.
if you will tell me were your want what link, and which new pages you want i can make them for you.
like if you want a blueangel link on the the Faq to a new page BlueAngelFAQ. Questions like that I can handle, but you have to figure out how the framework has to be. And supply the contents of the newpage.
some forum pointers :
quote="username" give you
username said:
something
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url=http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=16208
wil give you some nice text instead of just the url like this :
this thread
Ok
under:
Other HTC devices
We need a new Link
BlueAngle
Which points to a new page. (BlueHome)
On that new page we need a photo on the top of a BlueAngell
We Start with one simple sections and have that a Title.
How to:
Under how to 3 links to a postion in a new page (Help01)
How to: Find out what my device is before upgrading
Linked to pointer in that same page (Help01:Findevice)
How to: Find the correct upgrade ROM for me
Linked to pointer in that same page (Help01:Findrom)
How to: Install a upgrade and what tools to use.
Linked to poiner in that same page (Help01:Instal)
I have the file in the same format as I would post here , will that work ?
So in total 2 new pages, home and help.
The help page will have 3 text blockes that can be fopund over the bluehome.
You still with me? and can you set that up and I dump the text in it.
like this?
I saw the link on the home page pointed to a different page than the page that was already there for the blueangel.
now they all point to Blueangel with lowercase 'a'.
... ah, and now m4io else has just created HTC_BlueAngel with capital A.
hope he sees the other page too.
yes, we were doing the same at the same time.
you can delete mine , it has no use now no
and http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BAHowTo should also be deleted
MDAIIIuser : you can edit this page :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelFAQ
ok done
Now have a look at it I have formting problems
This is wha the first part should look like
In order to change your ROM to a higher or different Language version you need the following information.
1) What is my model Nr?
2) What is the Language Code of my ROM?
3) What is the operator code that my phone was shipped as.
4) What ROM do I have now?
5) What ExtendedRom do I have now?
6) What is my Radio Version
How to find all of this information in one place.
Step 1
Insure that your device is connected to your Desktop....
I get it all on one line.
Next problem
Under that cold you add
this is a qoote A
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so I can work that syntax out?
Next Problem
Can you turn the "?"Link of for C:\XDA-Tools\?GetDeviceData.exe
and change the color to blue, again to work out syntax.
You are cool and I am learning, thanks
Thanks
Help
Ok lost again
Solved the nunber problem and thus created a new one and that is how to stay in the same numbering with text betwwen it.
What I need is a command that will generate a new line and yes I have tried the <new-line> and a few versions of it.
What I need is some color (blue, red)
What I need is getting rid of the "?" links.
Feel free to edit the page in so that I can work the syntax out.
Hey it looks Like s**t but its a start
Thanks!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelFAQ
have you see the TextFormattingRules?
a newline is three percent signs: %%%
this wiki has no support for colors.
the '?' links mean that you typed a WikiWord, and it has no page yet.
if you don't want it to be a link, add a tilde ( ~ ) before the word.
Have now! Thanks itsme.
Will sombody take a look, do some fixing on the spelling, give me some feed back?
Thanks
2 down 1 to go.
Hey buddie!
I can do some adjustments if you like but I don't know how!!!!
Explain it to me and I'll help!!!
Dom
Help
Hi all
I need some help!! with the Wiki Home Page.
1) I would appricate it if somebody would deal with the home page and look at the info that is there, if it is upto date and usefiul
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
2) I would appricate it if that person would add the following sections to that home page:
A) Getting started with my Blueangle on Wiki
----> Linked to the content of:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelFAQ
Yes you need to change the page name But keep the content.
B) Blueangel Exteneded Rom Kitchen
----> Linked to a blank page that I hope I can work on
C) List of know Blue angel, sold as, Model ID, Operator code etc
----> Linked to a blank page that I hope somebody will work on
D) List of Know Upgrades (Ship.exe)
----> Linked to a blank page that I hope somebody will work on
E) Wiki Development page
----> Linked to a page that has:
--------> Wiki Test Page please read and edit
--------> Wiki Test Page Please do not edit (add your name here)
--------> Wiki Test Page Please do not edit (MDAIIIUser)
My Spelling is poor on a good day, so if the link is spelled wrong just correct it.
3) Will somebody please look at the content of
"Getting started with my Blueangle on Wiki"
And correct it for spelling understanding ect.
This is what I have done sofar and as said above the link might change
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelFAQ
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Lets not get in each others hair!
So can Please each of us post what they are going to do on this site.
I will start:
MDAIIIUser Will work on the page Blueangel Exteneded Rom Kitchen and use his test page under devlopment for that.
Thanks for all the help so far
mmm, the aim of WiKi is that EVERYONE can update EVERY page.
so: Go ahead & Good Luck
I think it would be more appropriate to add those sections to the main Blueangel page
i think currently there are some links on the homepage that are too specific.
also some of the himalaya, and wallaby links should be moved to their phone pages.
then on the homepage more a general introduction, to what kind of information about what phones is available on this wiki.
I moved to Himalaya stuuf from the HomePage to the Himalaya page.
I also added a Sitemap link on the homepage, which could be useful
Mio4
First of thanks for doing a clean up!
Alas I fail to understand how to link a page form the Blueangel Home page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
To the content of another page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelFAQ
When I go into edit of the Blueangel homepage, apart form getting lost, I get
* BlueangelFAQ
Which seems to be the name of the page that it is linked to.
That is all I see, that is all I can understand.
So my problem is that although I have created informtion that I would like to post I just don't know how to:
1) Open and name a page like BA_GettingStarted
2) Link that named page (BA_GettingStarted) from the blueangel home page over the wording
"Getting started with my Blueangle on Wiki"
so that the blueangle home page reads like this
BlueangelFAQ
Getting started with my Blueangle on Wiki
List of know Blue angel, sold as, Model ID, Operator code etc
List of Know Upgrades (Ship.exe)
Blueangel Exteneded Rom Kitchen
Given that info I would be able to add a few other pages without having to beg somebody to do it for me.
Would you please explain this so that I and others can also add infomation to Wiki.
Thanks
that is what a wiki does, make it really simple to link, and create new pages.
you create a link, just by typing the a pagename, with at least TwoLettersCapitalized, or, if your pagename does not have 2 capitalized letters, you can put it between [brackets] to make it a link.
when you type a pagename that does not yet exist, and view the saved page with your new link on it, you will see it with a questionmark next to it. if you click on the question mark, you go to the edit page of your new page.
so 'BlueangelFAQ' is automatically a link, in a wiki.
if you want to give the link a different description than the page name, you can write it like this:
[your description|LinkName]
that is, write between [brackets] your description, and the pagename separated with a vertical bar symbol.
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i found some registry mods in wiki to get the BA to display first name last name in contacts but it says that you need to have cproghook installed.what is that and where can i get it?i tried a search in the forums but cant seem to shed any light on my query.is there someone who could lead me to the right direction?[/i]
I too would like this information and the thread starter is one up on me since I did not know there was a Wiki for this subject.
BTW - I am on MW5 if that matters [knowing my luck it will].
anyone?
cproghook has something to do with the phone application, in the Thread "a new button to quick dial" Mamaich gave us a little app that gives you a contacts button in the empty button in the dialer interface. You best look in that thread for some info on cproghook, since that has to do with some first/last name as well, but only in that little app! perhaps you have used it in the past and deleted it and the registry is still pointing to that program? For changing the order of contacts in the default contacts program, have a look around at this forum, I posted the link to 4 cab files somewhere that gave you the ability to choose how to display contacts. just search for "first name", "last name", "company name".
Trying to download anything from the ftp side of this site is futile.
Why when i goto this page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM5_Home
There is nothing? Why?
Everywhere i look on the net for a BA upgrade to WM5 points back here, and nothing works here. Why?
Quick Fix...
Go to the link you highlighted, click on the Thread title and it'll bring up all the 'Backlinks' for that page, so you'll see the pages that would have been linked from it...
Thats the wiki site. not the ftp. probably you want to change your title to get more respond? There are problems with the ftp and there are problems with the wiki.
First, the wiki edit function is not working. I've just check, the wiki function is working, BUT it seems not able to translate/save/convert it well. E.g., when other try to edit the page and save it, it will look like that (as what you get in the Preview when you are editing).
However, all is not lost. If you go to that page (the link in your post), click on the bottom Edit button, you will see the contents of the page in code. You can make some sense out of it.
Anyone know who's incharge of the wiki page?
Well thanks for your help.
I can see that page after hitting edit, I just wished the ftp worked so i could get some of these files i keep reading about.
Thanks again.
Ok, This may be the wrong forum to ask this, I'm not sure. If it is the wrong forum, can you point me in the right direction? Couldn't find anything better via Google. The reason I chose this is because I own the AT&T Tilt and you all seem very knowledgeable about windows mobile and this phone.
I am trying to create a today screen plugin that just parses information (a picture) from a website every hour or so.
There is a Google gadget for a Japanese word of the day, and I have contacted the creator and asked if it would be possible to get the source for the gadget. They agreed, and gave me a web page that has some information about it.
Just trying to parse the web address for the word of the day image from this web page http://www.hitsalive.com/japanese_wotd/wotd_png.php then display that picture on the today screen.
Is there some simple plugin I can start with and edit you think?
Thanks for your help! (or for pointing me in the right direction)
HI,i know this french link : http://www.codeppc.com/evc/plugintoday/timetoday/timetoday.htm
Good luck to create your plugin !
Thanks for the link! I don't speak french but my friend http://babelfish.altavista.com/ will translate it for me
Hopefully I can get started after I get off work tonight. Thanks for the help!
I don't know how many of you have had issues with getting the weather to work on any of the Manilla builds, but I did finally figure out a solution for it. I am a Tilt owner, so this may only be a solution for those with Tilts.
First, disable the proxy that ATT has in place.
2nd, take the file HH409_Weather_Cities and open it with notepad on your desktop. After you open it, follow the same setup that they have already to add in your city. After this is done, save it and copy it into the /windows folder on your Tilt. It should ask if you want to replace it. Say yes. After this, locate the file in the /windows directory. It should say Copy of HH409 blah blah blah, RENAME this file! Just remove the "Copy of" and leave the rest. Soft reset the device. Enjoy!
There's a much more detailed guide to adding custom cities found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2638970&postcount=1089
I wrote it awhile ago, and it's posted in the FAQ's in the kaiser rom development forum, and the M2D thread as well.
Awesome, thank you.
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Awesome, thank you.
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No problem, i actually have several tutorials that i have written for various issues. There is so much that i'd like to post but i just haven't had time yet. Check the link in my sig to see what i have posted thus far though.
Scotchua, nice tutorial. I've been using several of your fixes since I discovered them. However, the one note missing from your Manila2D Weather Custom Cities tutorial is how to determine the loca="NAM|US|AK|KETCHIKAN".
I have the solution! For most US locations, you can use the 5-digit ZIP code, but to determine ANY location, including outside the US, use this link to AccuWeather's RSS.
Simply put in your location as instructed in the 'Choose a location' field and click 'Set'. (For this example, I used Whistler, Canada.) The page then generates a URL for you, which looks like accuweather.com/rss/liveweather_rss.asp?metric=0&locCode=NAM|CA|BC|WHISTLER. The piece after locCode= (which I've hilited in Red) is what goes in the loca="" field in the XML file.
Then complete your tutorial, and choose the custom cities! Hope this helps someone else looking to make a quick fix.
Thanks,
Charles
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Scotchua, nice tutorial. I've been using several of your fixes since I discovered them. However, the one note missing from your Manila2D Weather Custom Cities tutorial is how to determine the loca="NAM|US|AK|KETCHIKAN".
I have the solution! For most US locations, you can use the 5-digit ZIP code, but to determine ANY location, including outside the US, use this link to AccuWeather's RSS.
Simply put in your location as instructed in the 'Choose a location' field and click 'Set'. (For this example, I used Whistler, Canada.) The page then generates a URL for you, which looks like accuweather.com/rss/liveweather_rss.asp?metric=0&locCode=NAM|CA|BC|WHISTLER. The piece after locCode= (which I've hilited in Red) is what goes in the loca="" field in the XML file.
Then complete your tutorial, and choose the custom cities! Hope this helps someone else looking to make a quick fix.
Thanks,
Charles
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Thanks, i'll add it to my post, and of course credit you for the info.
Hi,
I have now searched for over a week and I cannot find any information on hacking and customizing TouchFlo for Diamond.
I know there are lots of stuff there for customizing the look and also a few programs for tweaking it, but I want to delve into the files and make my own theme, customize the tabs for me and stuff like that.
Is there any program or thread on what fales do what, how to extract the original files for changin and how to convert them back, how to add tabs in touchflo and make changes to the interface of it.
I already know that I am going to get someone that says use search or "In 10 sec I found this", but I have been researching for a week now and I think that me not finding anything is more the fact that its called TouchFlo or Manila or Manilla or Manila2D or manila3D etc..... very hard to know what words to search for.
Please someone point me in the right direction.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=441
Well thankyou for pointing out 2132 threads of information. Why didn't I think to read thru all those threads?
I thought I made it clear that I didn't want to just customise the look of TouchFlo. I want to do it myself, making my own themse and making my own additions to the app.
I need to find out how to actually edit the app, as in what files do what and how to open and edit them to do what I want it to do and not what is already predifined from someone else.
Thought I made it clear in my initial post.
Stickies in this forum are too useful, read it...
Let me redo my original request in a manner that may be more understanding.
I HAVE read threads, posts, googled, search within these forums etc etc etc.
I DO find Tweaks, Config Programs, even found a program to convert the manila files to an imag and back (thou I don't understand how some of the animation files can't be exported as a gif animation (wiper blade for weather)..
What I DON"T find is information on what files to edit for differnet parts of the TouchFlo. I don't know what file to hack for adding another panel, I don't know how my images are suppose to be for themes (the program lets export to jpg, bmp and png, information on transparency and animation are no where to be found).
How much clearer can I be about this.
I have already gone thru 6 pages of the 2132 pages of threads available and still only premade themes and hacks are there nothing in terms of HOW TO HACK TOUCHFLO.
I don't want information on how to optimize TouchFlo and make it look pretty. I want to know HOW to hack it and do my OWN things to it.
Oh god...
I think u need to read more...
Or maybe u dont readed stickies...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=441
Dont read the 2132 pages, JUST ONLY THE STICKIES!
If u look there, u will find the MANILA EDITOR 0.2...
Either you DIDN'T read my posts or you have never used the Editor.
I DID say I found it. BUt it ONLY lets me edit the images. Nothing in there about adding custome tabs, renaming tabs or anything along EDITING and HACKING TouchFlo.
Also there is NO information on how to do the transparencies on some images, seeing all images can be exported in BMP, JPG or PNG, to my knowledge only PNG supports Transparencies but you can have transparency in BMP by making the transparent areas hot pink or some other bold color. And seeing that none of those image formats are animations, then how the hell do I edit things like the weather wiper blade.
I am not an idiot, I usually do find these things out myslef or work them out some how, but USUALLY I can find some small tidbits of information on what I am doing to point me in the right direction.
Manila Editor 0.2 doesn't do anything other then let me change the pictures.
eangulus said:
Let me redo my original request in a manner that may be more understanding.
I HAVE read threads, posts, googled, search within these forums etc etc etc.
I DO find Tweaks, Config Programs, even found a program to convert the manila files to an imag and back (thou I don't understand how some of the animation files can't be exported as a gif animation (wiper blade for weather)..
What I DON"T find is information on what files to edit for differnet parts of the TouchFlo. I don't know what file to hack for adding another panel, I don't know how my images are suppose to be for themes (the program lets export to jpg, bmp and png, information on transparency and animation are no where to be found).
How much clearer can I be about this.
I have already gone thru 6 pages of the 2132 pages of threads available and still only premade themes and hacks are there nothing in terms of HOW TO HACK TOUCHFLO.
I don't want information on how to optimize TouchFlo and make it look pretty. I want to know HOW to hack it and do my OWN things to it.
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LOL, I can't stop laughing Eangulus. I'm not laughing at you just the responses. I feel your pain, whenever I've asked for help I get the same kind of useless replies. A bunch of people who don't even read my post assuming they know what I want. Goodluck in your search!!
Great. Now I have someone that understands what I want, but can't help me...
I read somewhere that this forum was the be all and end all for all WM information, hacking tweaking etc.
Maybe all that info is in a special "HACKERS" area that the genral public can't see. Keeps all us "newbies" in the forums searching clocking up their advertising dollars....
There is no such complete HowTo (which would be pretty big and much to read btw.). The information is spread all over the threads. Download the cabs and stuff people provide and inspect what files are involved. Download the tools and go to the readme files. There's additional information inside.
Spend some time on testing and playing around (but remember: everything you do is on your own risk). And ask questions in the relevant threads.
Someone startet a diamond wiki some time ago, but I think it's not maintained anymore.
That's why people can only point you to the threads and as a starting point to the stickys. You have to pick up the pieces and build the puzzle. (If you get everything together you are ofcourse welcome to write a complete Diamond-HowTo)
cheers
Thankyou for a clear answer.
Im personally more annoyed at the fact that it does seem to be just a default respnse of read the thread, search is your friend crap.
If someone actually read my original post they would have known that was what I was doing.
Oh and I would read the readme. Only if they were included. there is none with the manila editor.
eangulus said:
Thankyou for a clear answer.
Im personally more annoyed at the fact that it does seem to be just a default respnse of read the thread, search is your friend crap.
If someone actually read my original post they would have known that was what I was doing.
Oh and I would read the readme. Only if they were included. there is none with the manila editor.
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wow, pretty pissed I see...I get similar responses but you get used to it. As far as transparency, thats the png's effect. Use photoshop for this and to retain the trans effect, export it to png. Gif also does this being that gif's are not exclusively for animating, but for utilizing transparency at a smaller file size, but also at the expense of quality. As far as creating a tab of your own (like a cheetos tabs that predicts how many cheetos are eating every sec or something random), that you may have to just follow the threads and get information according to which step you're on. I would ask more along the lines of "what part of touchflo does this?" or "how to change blah blah" rather than "how to hack touchflo" cause someone would need to write an entire page of crap. Maybe one day, but I couldn't find it either. lol
I would first start with learning how touchflo works by inspecting the entire reg file for anything that says "manila" or "touchflo", start research on lua modding/changing (if necessary), crack open the tab cabs (i.e. calender, today, etc.) and start modding!