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Huge problem!!!

I recieved my tilt from Amazon roughly aweek ago. Everything was going fine up until not to long ago. The screen stopped registering any screen taps from the stylus or my finger while everything else worked just fine. I reset the unit a few times hoping to resolve the issue. Nothing. THEN I made the big mistake of hard resetting the unit. Now i get to the calibration screen and no further. Anyone got any ideas? Any idea where I can take this to get looked at? i was contemplating sending it to Amazon as defective but ive already flashed the HTC Rom to it shortly after recieving it. Am I completely screwed? Help!!

hollowground said:
I recieved my tilt from Amazon roughly aweek ago. Everything was going fine up until not to long ago. The screen stopped registering any screen taps from the stylus or my finger while everything else worked just fine. I reset the unit a few times hoping to resolve the issue. Nothing. THEN I made the big mistake of hard resetting the unit. Now i get to the calibration screen and no further. Anyone got any ideas? Any idea where I can take this to get looked at? i was contemplating sending it to Amazon as defective but ive already flashed the HTC Rom to it shortly after recieving it. Am I completely screwed? Help!!
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you could try reflashing the original ROM

Yeah, I tried that shortly after making my original post. Still nothing. I'm curious if the cable for the digitizer came loose somehow (no idea how though) or if it is an actual hard ware issue.
I thought something was wierd when it was working though. When I used the stylus the taps were very inaccurate recently. More so towards the upper hight hand corner of the screen. Calibrated it a few times hoping to correct it but it was always slightly off still. Then it just stopped working all together.I thought it had something to do with my screen protector but after removal was still a no go.
Luckily I am still able to make phone calls thanks to the slide out keyboard. Not sure if it rings or anything when I recieve one though. Still stuck at the calibration screen Any other ideas?
What size star key is needed to disassemble the tilt/tytn II? I may try taking a look inside to see whats up.

hollowground said:
Yeah, I tried that shortly after making my original post. Still nothing. I'm curious if the cable for the digitizer came loose somehow (no idea how though) or if it is an actual hard ware issue.
I thought something was wierd when it was working though. When I used the stylus the taps were very inaccurate recently. More so towards the upper hight hand corner of the screen. Calibrated it a few times hoping to correct it but it was always slightly off still. Then it just stopped working all together.I thought it had something to do with my screen protector but after removal was still a no go.
Luckily I am still able to make phone calls thanks to the slide out keyboard. Not sure if it rings or anything when I recieve one though. Still stuck at the calibration screen Any other ideas?
What size star key is needed to disassemble the tilt/tytn II? I may try taking a look inside to see whats up.
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If you're stuck at the calibration screen after a hard reset, how are you able to receive calls? Surely the reset hasn't completed?!?
Also, if you have reflashed to the original ROM, and thats now stuck also, then it has least got the correct ROM image on the device, thus allowing you to return it for a replacement.
Still a little confused about how you're able to use it at all though...

i honestly though it wierd myself. after flashing back to the original rom. at the calibration screen if i slide out the keyboard, press the talk button , close then reopen the keyboard, it lets me dial out using the number keys on the keyboard.
I can actually make out the home page behind the calibration screen as the screen reorientates itself.
edited Well I've no idea what just happened but the screen just stared working again out of the blue. My dog jumped on the bed n stepped on it ant the cursor moved. Very weird. Damn I'm lucky. lol Thanks for the input guys. Lets just hope it doesn't happen again XD

return it ..

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return it ..
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I agree, sounds like a loose connection somewhere

Could be grit between the screen and frame
One of my friends had an XDA Orbit and he had this problem. It turned out it was a crumb or piece of grit wedged between the frame of the phone and the screen causing the screen to be permanently pressed at that point. He used some fine implement (maybe a pin - can't remember) to dig it out. If this was the problem with your phone that may explain why it suddenly started working viz the bit of grit became dislodged by itself.
Cheers,
Ashley

hollowground said:
i My dog jumped on the bed n stepped on it ant the cursor moved. Very weird. Damn I'm lucky. lol Thanks for the input guys. Lets just hope it doesn't happen again XD
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Thats doggone lucky!! Just another reason to have a dog around...

my diamond is crazy!!! Help!!!!

from several days ago whem i touch in diamond icons never select the one i touch!!!... It selects the icon on left or right but never the right one....
When i have a phone call i select the green icon and it turns the phone off
What can i do?
I aligned the screen thousands of times, i installed the different calibrators and nothing.
I align screen, it works well for a few seconds and becomes crazy again. I soft reset, a tried everything i remember and always the same.....

Obvious question: Did you Hard Reset?

Try a hard reset.
If that doesnt work then it sounds like the screen is screwed, get the unit swapped.

I've just installed a new rom! I think i have to swapp the unit
The problems are the same. Anything more i can do??

If you just installed a new ROM, did you do a hard reset? To me it sounds as if the calibration for the touch sensor is off. The first thing that you do after a hard reset is calibrate the screen.

So you can try to calibrate the screen, bofore doing the hard-reset.

You can but when you hard reset you just have to do it again

Also, you could check your local optician for any additional problems.
No, but honestly, a hardreset and recalibration should fix the problem. I'm aware that GNes/GSen can give some problems if it thinks it has rotated the screen, but I've never seen that occur outside programs that don't rotate the screen by themselves.
If that doesn't work, Sync it, back it up, whatever you want to do, possibly flash to stock and return it to whereever you bought it/HTC to get it swapped.

thank's everybody... I tried it all and the same. Going to swapp

have the same problem.. it wasn't there before, had the phone for 3 month.. i think it has to do with water under the screen, used it in the rain and then it began to behave this way (due to the big speaker hole maybe?) , it works fine otherwise! Any idea how to fix it? waterdamage? - guarantee or what?
I think it´s wierd if you can´t use it when it´s raining..?

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I think it´s wierd if you can´t use it when it´s raining..?
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How many phones can be used risk free in rain?

i don't think that's the problem. no water in my phone, rain or other....
i think it started after gsen installed...may be wrong, or else or.....

Very little chance Gsen having anything to do with it. Many people are using that (including me) with no ill effects.

Hmmm, I though I was the only one with this problem. I'm on the second unit now, the first one always do soft reset by itself after every few wake up. Now the alignment always gone off after few minutes of use. I'm waiting for the replacement unit now.
Initially I thought it was because of the ROM update I did, but even after I restore the original ROM, it still happen.
Looks like I'm quite unlucky with the Diamond .

problem solved!!!!
gone to look for assistance.
After 3.30 hours new touch screen and they sad to me new components inside.
For now all good. Till when??....
hope it was the last problem

So its a guarantee issue? - bad components inside?
It still works ok, so i wait to send it away..

till now all ok.

Tilt no longer enjoys being touched.

So, i'm usually quiet on these forums. Just reading, trying roms, etc. But here is something that has me stumped. Last thursday my phone crapped out. When i woke up and looked at it (it was connected to my laptop/charging) Applications were opening left and right, i couldn't close any of them because stuff kept opening. I tried to soft reboot it and it didn't help. Once it rebooted stuff started opening itself at random again. I ended up pulling the SIM and battery out and leaving it for 5 minutes. When i put it back and powered it up the touch screen no longer worked, but apps weren't opening on their own.
What gives?
I have hard reset (which means it's waiting for me to touch the screen to setup my rom), i have also taken off the screen protector (in case it had something stuck under it. Neither of these things helped. Per the forums I got a new screen, just put it in, and the touch screen doesn't work still... I'm drawing a blank here can anyone give me some advice. Going back to my Prophet for the time being but I HATE not having a keyboard (and it's slower than molasses)

have you tried flashing a new rom via sd?

Check that the screen protector has not moved under the front bezel and keeps pressing your touchscreen.
Robert

I have totally removed the screen protector and even replaced the screen for that matter so I dont think that's it. I haven't tried flashing a new rom. I just found it odd that this has worked for so long and now I get what appears to be hardware problems. As for flashing Via SD memory, is that better than doing it via cable for some reason? I'd be willing to give it a go...

Any other suggestions?

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I have totally removed the screen protector and even replaced the screen for that matter so I dont think that's it. I haven't tried flashing a new rom. I just found it odd that this has worked for so long and now I get what appears to be hardware problems. As for flashing Via SD memory, is that better than doing it via cable for some reason? I'd be willing to give it a go...
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Similar problem happened to my Kaiser phone, although no multiple files opened, the phone just won't react to any touching, not stylus pen either. So I first soft reset, then hard reset, none of them works, now the phone can Sync alright, but the screen just stands on the Window Mobile screen, saying "Tap the screen to set up your window mobile device"
I only have this new phone for <3 weeks.
I went to HTC site, want to download a latest ROM file from them, after typing in the S/N, it won't let me, saying that ROM is not suitable for my phone.
So now I am download ROM file from this site, will choose one to flash the phone, see whether it works.
I will call HTC tech support tomorrow after Thanksgiving, see what they suggest
Hope some gurus here can also make some suggestion, Thanks!

Well I replaced the LCD and the new LCD works great, but the screen still doesn't respond to touches. What gives?! I hard reset and I got past the windows screen alignment thing by creating a welcome.not file but it's still pretty much worthless w/o a touch screen. Anyone have any suggestions?

Whoa, i thought something odd was going on. Never mind i got entirely the wrong idea.

Ha, not the case.
Anyone know if a flex cable would fix my issue? I dont really know what the felx cable is for but i've seen posts about people replacing them w/ LCD problems. I don't know if it is touch screen related or not, and i'm kind of tired of buying parts that don't fix my problem

please just flash a new rom whch ever you want (for some reason i thought you said that it keeps restarting your device because if that was the case the only option you would have was to flash via sd as activesync would load long enough for you to get a connection to flash from the computer)..trust me just try it..what have you got to lose

I reflashed one yesterday actually. The newest HyperDragon (which is looks like a new one is available today) It wasn't rebooting but initially windows were popping open left and right so i restarted it a couple of times(which i first had the problem, not yesterday) Yesterday it worked like any normal rom w/o the ability to touch. Anywho, after the flash of a different rom. No luck. I'm thinking it's a hardware problem of some sort but as i've already replaced the LCD i have no idea what?

yah thats sounds funky..you can bring it in for a warranty exchange either at a local DSC or over the phone (that is if your with att) and if not call HTC..all devcies come with a 16 or 18 month warranty

Well I called ATT yesterday, apparently I purchased the phone On Oct 17th 2007 which means It's out of warranty (apparently it has a 12 month warranty?) So it sounds like I'm SOL. So, i guess I'm off to ebay to try and fine a phone that I can canibalize to try and get mine going again.

touch screen
this may sound dum but when you replaced the screen did you replace the touch part as this is different from the screen

Well I picked up this
http://www.blackberry8100parts.com/...B3-NEW-HTC-TyTN-II-KAISER-P4550-_p_35-70.html
which includes the digitizer (from what I know it's all one part when they send it to you) The screen has the digitizer built in. So i replaced the part they sent me.

I just stated having this issue. My touchscreen stopped responding to touches over the weekend while the keyboard was extended. I just took the phone apart to make sure everything was connected right & put it back together, & now the touchscreen doesn't work at all. This sucks!

Any news? i'm having the same problem: no response at all, stuck at "Tap the screen to set up Windows Mobile-based device"

An interesting problem with screen
well my tilt fell out of the car holster while using gps and i suspect the screen hit my gear shift. I didn't notice anything odd after i put the battery back in it (yeah it fell that hard lol). Later that night I went to check mail and noticed something not right. Turns out my screen seems to have been pushed in a bit. Well here's the issues I've noticed so far: All the touch responses seem fine except for 1) the screen alignment doesn't register taps, but otherwise the touchscreen works and 2) on the htc home screen, I can't tap the house icon unless I tap any other icon first.
Initially I thought there was some pressure or deformation right at that particular spot, but it reacts the exact same way in landscape mode. I can't tap the house icon first; I have to tap something else first, then the icon works fine until I open a program or something and go back to the home screen. Then I simply have to tap weather or something and then home.
I'd reflash the rom or do a hard reset, but the screen alignment didn't work when I tried it so I didn't want to get stuck at the "tap your screen to begin" part.
Any ideas or do I just need to buy another screen or maybe just the digitizer. the amount the screen seems recessed is maybe a millimeter at most. Just enough so that I noticed a difference when touching contacts just above the housing. I tried cleaning by using a business card and running between screen and housing. Ohh... and one more thing... when I open the cube and then close it, I get what I refer to a static frazzle for split second and it goes back to normal. That only happened a couple of times after the business card thing. Do you think I just loosened a connection? damn... I still haven't taken it apart yet. Think I need to. Any help appreciated.

If your screen does not work, you can still use your phone. There is an app that you use on your computer that acts as the touch screen. This also works when the screen craps out.
http://www.sparus-software.com/spip.php?page=download&lang=en&ref=at&t=tilt
(EveryWAN Remote Support Personal Edition - Free download)

yeah -- my touchscreen didn't crap out totally, it just got muffed up when I dropped it a bit. Well, i went ahead and installed codefreaks remote screen alignment thing and did a hard reset. Well, the hardreset did the trick w/out the need for anything else. The alignment worked and everything. So, i'm back in business. Everything seems to work properly, except that my screen is still recessed a tad; but, that's not a big deal really.

screen problems?

i got my td2 just about a week. yesterday suddenly the touchscreen didnt work at all anymore! i was taking some pictures and then it stopped to do anything on the touchscreen. i rebootet the device few times but no go - even removed the battery but didnt work anymore. then i left the device a few minutes without battery and when i tried it again it worked. this scared me a little... because without touchscreen u are really lost with this phone.
ohwell.. i hope this doesnt happen again. but i actually got another strange thing here:
if i look into the screen from the side.. i can see a strange glimmer sometimes. it looks like oil in water... it does glimmer a little and its not visible all over the screen but the part does even grow. i noticed this yesterday and it was like 5cm long and 2cm width. but now its almost on the full screen and it looks like the effect when u press on a LCD screen really hard. but it appears without doing anything.. does anyone have that too on his TD2??

same problem here. its the device of a friend. one week old. but we didn´t managed it to bring it back to life again...
no we will try a hard reset.
battery was out for ar least 30min wizhout success.
even noticed some glimmer at the screen. hard to describe. like liquid between sreen and screen protector.... but only on those parts were we tapped on the screen...
no we try the hard reset - i´ll report how it worked.
somebody else with that problem here?

ok we tried a hard reset - no success. screen is dead. no way to setup the device. no reaction of the touch screen. will go to the o2 shop tomorrow and bring it back...

wow.. at least im not the only one. my screen is working again but the glimmer didnt go away. also today appeared one more defect on the screen - it looked like the protection plastic is moving, but then after some tapping on the screen it went away again. very strange!
the glimmer looks indeed like a liquid between the screen and the protection. sometimes its almost not visibe and sometimes its really good to see. i wonder whats going on here..

hey i just found something out!!
my screen has something like little bubbles under it when i do touch it on a certain area. when these bubbles are visible.. my screen does not work anymore!! then i can clean the screen a while with a tissue or my tshirt or whatever and the bubbles go away - as soon they are not visible anymore the touchscreen works again!!!
im tryin now to give that phone back and get a new one. i dont even have that phone 1 week!!

I have a Diamond2 with the same frozen screen issue. The screen just did not react to any tap. Soft reset may put it back to work again, but the symptom repeated after some time. Even hard reset cannot rectify the problem. It is hardware defect. Fortunately it is one week old and still within the one-to-one exchange policy and I can take back to the shop I bought push for an exchange. Having email HTC and they just ask for service check and refuse to exchange a new one. If you conduct a Google search of freeze screen, you may locate a lot of touch screen issue but only very limited solution. I suggest you to have the device exchange than going to repair.

Does it look like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2557175#post2557175???

Hi, I am experiencing the very same problem. Touchscreen stopped working. Taking out the battery for 5 minutes fixed it. But there is a oily liquid now beneath the screen. My device is 5 days old, this should not happen
Taking it to the shop on monday.

we tried everything but without any succes...
today we gave back the phone. it was within the one week limit. but there is another limitation: 15 minutes airtime! i said to the guy in that shop: when he can show me the airtime, we keep the phone - because than the screen seems to work again... )
but no problem they exchanged it against a new one! good service, very customer friendly at o2!

I encountered this one day after getting my unit. I got a replacement. It seems two layers of the touch screen is "stucked" together. Use scotch tape to lift up the area and and the touch screen responds. But the next time you press on the screen it will get stuck again.
So get it changed.

wow
what a great idea... never ever thought of that... *lol* but when you buy such a sophisticated mobile it looks very unsophisticated to lift your screen with scotch-tape everytime you tapped on the screen...

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Does it look like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2557175#post2557175???
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kinda yes. but not that big and after cleaning phone with a tissue it goes away. i will get a replacement in a few days.. hope this doesnt happen again - but shop told me it seems that there are a few ppl with that problem on td2!! :-(

ok i did get a replacement now and all is fine again. but i think i know what caused the problem.
actually i had the phone always in my back pocket of my jeans. this is not a very good idea when you sit down. the phone gets some pressure on the screen and my screen actually was lowered into the case a little bit. you can see this from the side. that did cause the air under the screen and also the oily liquid that sometimes appeared. so i think the screen felt into the phone case and this was causing the problems. my new phone does not look like the screen is lowered - its totally flat. so i will take more care and not using back pocket of my jeans again to put the phone in

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ok i did get a replacement now and all is fine again. but i think i know what caused the problem.
actually i had the phone always in my back pocket of my jeans. this is not a very good idea when you sit down. the phone gets some pressure on the screen and my screen actually was lowered into the case a little bit. you can see this from the side. that did cause the air under the screen and also the oily liquid that sometimes appeared. so i think the sYcreen felt into the phone case and this was causing the problems. my new phone does not look like the screen is lowered - its totally flat. so i will take more care and not using back pocket of my jeans again to put the phone in
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I hope you are joking... I mean one can't be serious about carrying a touch screen device in a back pocket of his jeans. Are you even surprised about what happened to it? In fact I'm rather surprised you got a warranty replacement. There is a thing called User manual that comes with the device a it is saying 'Always remove the device from the pocket of your trousers prior to sitting down'. Yu are really lucky indeed you got a replacement....

well aint a mobile phone made for putting in the pocket? this is not my first phone and i never had such a problem even with a touchscreen phone. its not like i did sit on it with full force or something.. just had it in back pocket during cardriving. you can easy do that with any other phone without breaking it...

cko2 said:
well aint a mobile phone made for putting in the pocket? this is not my first phone and i never had such a problem even with a touchscreen phone. its not like i did sit on it with full force or something.. just had it in back pocket during cardriving. you can easy do that with any other phone without breaking it...
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that's exactly what's it's not - it's a pda phone and it kind of makes sense to treat it differently from normal mobiles which can withstand all sorts of abuse. also if they ask you specifically not to do something because it can damage the device - and you do it and then you are surprised it happened. it's written there for a reason. they surely know that for many people it will be their first pda phone so they don't have much clue how to treat it...

Touch Screen

Hi guys I've got a HTC Ignito and Id like abit of advice the touch screen on my phone seems to be acting up as u can press on the left hand side and it will detect pressure but only the top and bottom 5mm will work properly the rest it will activate what is on the opposite side or will do nothing.
when Ive tried to calibrate the screen it just constantly repeats the calibration process non stop but if you do a hard reset it will start working properly but as soon as you reset phone it messes up again.
Any one any ideas is the touch screen broken or is it another problem its got the stock rom on it
Sorry for the bad structore of post feeling abit tired as been up for hours annoyed at my phone.

I noticed a simmilliar issue starting a couple of weeks ago. Looks like the X-axis of the digitizer starts to die. In my case it only detects touches in Y direction, but not in X.
So far it only appeared under hot condition like sunlight or constantly running device in craddle. After cooling down it always came back to normal behaviour (so far)

Cheers bud for the reply. Its weird tho as its same as yours as it will detect the Y axis movemnt as when i hadnt hardrest it you could minamise the clock but that was it. Simalar problem happened to my grandads orbit and acted like urs then got progressivly worse over a few months.
I wonder if anybody knows if it would be sortedby getting a new touch screen.

HI...
Hopefully we are not the only ones... But yeah my MDA Compact (Diamond on T-Mobile UK) is doin the same thing. Like you guys, mine has staterd to get worse, before it was just a few edge icons that i could'nt press..but now sometimes pressing the screen anywhere does nothing, all i can do is scroll up or down.
Axelpix... you make a good point about temp...mine gets quite warm when charging on the USB. I will try to see if this is causing the problem.
Any info on fix would be greatly welcomed.
PS i'm running the Windows 6.5 Energy ROM. 14/07/2009

Hi guys least im not alone I think the only way to fix this problem might be to replace the touchscreen im just looking to see how much it would cost to buy a new one and if its easy to just replace the screen or if it comes attached to the lcd screen like on the orbit

continuous request to calibrate the screen
Yes, I have experienced this when i switched the handset on for the first time after purchase but it went off when I forced a restart to the handset.