I'm looking to buy an Audiovox XV6600.
I currently am on a wallaby with Cingular.
I know that cingular uses the SX66 and has WIFI, but i want the camera.
My problem.
Cingular appears to use Quad Band on thier SX66 and
Verizon's XV6600 uses a tri-band (no 850mhz).
Can i convert the radio of the verizon to get 850/1800 or 850/1900?
No. Verizon is CDMA and Cingular is GSM. the two systems are completely incompatible.
order a I-Mate pda2k or o2 xda IIi and you can use it with Cingular
thanks.
Thanks for the advice, almost ended up with the wrong device.
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One of the top reasons I chose Xda IIs over Xda IIi was for its quad-band capability. And now, with the latest O2 Asia Blue Angel ROM installed, there is the option to switch bands easily.
But I need your help to understand the practicality of bringing my phone to the U.S. and using it there. I have no idea at all how things work over there.
Can I get a new number with a new SIM card? Or do I have to do something else? And will I have to change the ROM I use? Just the radio? All these questions are begging for answers.
I await any suggestions you may have. Thanks.
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One of the top reasons I chose Xda IIs over Xda IIi was for its quad-band capability. And now, with the latest O2 Asia Blue Angel ROM installed, there is the option to switch bands easily.
But I need your help to understand the practicality of bringing my phone to the U.S. and using it there. I have no idea at all how things work over there.
Can I get a new number with a new SIM card? Or do I have to do something else? And will I have to change the ROM I use? Just the radio? All these questions are begging for answers.
I await any suggestions you may have. Thanks.
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You will no prolem to use Blue Angles in US , if you XDAIIs is unlock than you can use any sim card in US,but you only can use T-Mobile or Cingual in here others carriers not a GSM system.
Thanks for that info! Now, just to clarify, by "any SIM card" you mean T-Mobile or Cingual SIM cards, which are indeed available in the U.S.?
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Thanks for that info! Now, just to clarify, by "any SIM card" you mean T-Mobile or Cingual SIM cards, which are indeed available in the U.S.?
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yes,you got it
Hi again. Getting closer to the date of my trip to New York. I've already started looking into getting a new SIM for the trip, but I still don't know:
1. Must I flash with a different ROM (I have O2 Asia ROM right now)
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2. Must I simply flash a different Radio version (I have 1.15 now)
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3. Can I forgo all flashing and simply switch to a different band (Settings>Tools>Options>Band>GSM 850)
I'm hoping the third option is viable - and why shouldn't it be? Why have an option of switching bands if it were instead necessary to flash one's device?
Any last bits of advice on this? Thanks again.
Just switch to a different band - and perhaps rescan the available networks in the dialler app.
@Biohead, thanks - that's just what I wanted to hear.
If you are visiting the US and do not mind paying roaming charges, then do nothing as the XDAIIs will automatically switch to TMobile or Cingular on the 1900 -- who ever your Asian company has an agreement with. You can also buy a prepaid SIM from one of these companies or others (check the web).
If you are coming to live in the US, I suggest you get regular service with TMobile or Cingular as they are the only US providers that have GSM service. Someone on this forum already suggested that. I have no problems using my XDAIIs with the TMobile SIM card. Just make sure that your phone is unlocked for this option!
@SKassam,
That's interesting. I'm not sure I understand though... "on the 1900"? The bands on my Xda IIs are 850, 900, 1800 and 900/1800. I will be staying for only 1 month, so maybe I _should_ go with roaming, as it seems that otherwise I'd have to pay for some kind of package deal for a new SIM from TMobile or Cingular. My Xda IIs will really just switch to one of them automatically upon my arrival? Is it fairly certain, then, that my current provider (Matrix/StarOne), probably unknown outside of Indonesia, has some kind of agreement with one or the other? Lastly, are roaming charges typically prohibitive and exorbitant, or sensible? Thanks for your info. I appreciate any advice I can get, as I don't want to find myself out of the loop for a month.
@sub_rosa25,
The XDAIIs is a Quad band phone as in this link:
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaIIs/template/XdaIIsProductInfo.vm
May be you have a different model and not an XDAIIs?
Sorry for the confusion. It's definitely an Xda IIs, and quad-band; it's just that 1900 is not covered in its specs. US uses 850 and 1900 - the Blue Angel is compatible with 850. My problem is just that I don't know if T-Mobile or Cingular will do what you suggest they'll do upon my arrival. I need to know if it's more cost-effective to roam for a month or to buy the costly T-Mobile package just to get a new SIM. I suppose I should just contact my current provider and ask about roaming coverage and fees. Your info did help, though. Thanks again.
@sub-rosa25,
I think you had better check with your provider because when I travel overseas, I have the world roaming option available free from my provider, TMobile. Roaming can cost a pretty penny so be careful how much roaming you do.
You can also check the websites for TMobile and Cingular and select Indonesia to see if Americans have your service provider when in Indonesia. You will also see how much your provider charges by the minute to Americans which should give you an idea as to how much raoming might cost in the US for you.
Just buy a phone card when in the US and it will be very cheap.
Right, there are several GSM bands available throughout the globe. Each continent usually uses a different one. I say GSM bands because there are also different types such as CDMA, WCDMA, EDGE, EV-DO etc.
There are 4 main bands of GSM. 850, 900, 1800 and 1900. Europe uses the dual band 900/1800 with the US using either 850 for some networks or 1900 on the others.
From what I can tell there are only 2 networks in the US that uses GSM technology: T-Mobile USA and Cingular. These are the only two networks that you will be able to use with the BlueAngel.
In order to use your BA in the US you have one of two choices. The first would be roaming. If Matrix/StarOne have an agreement with either T-Mob or Cingular it will automatically roam onto that network and it should lock it, much like it would at home. If not, you will have a choice of either of the networks - it won't really matter which one you choose. Just set your network selection to automatic and it will do the business itself
The other option (and it may be cheaper in the long run), will be buying a PAYG sim for either T-Mob or Cingular whilst in the states. Just bung the sim in (presuming the phone is unlocked), again set the network to automatic and it will do the job itself.
Roaming is generally an expensive option so is only worth doing for a small amount of time. In your case, it might be worth buying a PAYG sim and putting $10 on or so.
Long story short: as long as the network selection is automatic you will be fine.
Is there a version of the diamond that will get 3g with att us ?(850mhz band) I have seen the update that gives the 850 band but I was told it isnt for the 3g. I really want a diamond but not having 3g is gonna be a real deal breaker for me.
I've got 850MHz on 3G here with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM which came on my device (works on Telstra NextG here in Australia which is 850MHz HSDPA).
really? I just read where the fcc just passed the us version of the diamond for the 850 band on hsdpa. Anyone else can confirm they are getting 3g with there diamond in the us?
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I've got 850MHz on 3G here with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM which came on my device (works on Telstra NextG here in Australia which is 850MHz HSDPA).
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did you buy your diamond from telstra???
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did you buy your diamond from telstra???
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No I did not, I have the UK version. The Australian version isn't available for another few weeks.
no it is out now but only in certain telstra stores...
so how do you know you are operating on the 3g 850Mhz band???
what radio and firmware are you using?
i want my next g speeds!
I know I'm on the 850MHz band as that's what Telstra NextG uses (with HSDPA). As I said above, radio version is 1.00.25.05 and ROM is WWE 1.93.405.1. All this info is in my signature as well.
3G on ATT
I just got my Diamond Touch today and it came with the
RADIO: 1.00.25.05
ROM: 1.93.456.2 WWE Dated (7/10/08)
O/S: CE 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3)
I'm only getting (E)dge on AT&T
No (G) or (H)
My upgraded TILT/TYN II connects to G3 and H at my location here in Los Angeles.
I hope someone figures out a way to get at least a G3 and 850Mhz radio.
Does it just need to be unlocked ??
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I know I'm on the 850MHz band as that's what Telstra NextG uses (with HSDPA). As I said above, radio version is 1.00.25.05 and ROM is WWE 1.93.405.1. All this info is in my signature as well.
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Hi#
In another thread somone posted that Telstra uses 850mhz for its 3g network and 2100mhz for its joint 3g venture with 3. I'd be happy though if they used 850/900mhz for 3g in the uk though
I am totally confused here, Everything that I have read says that there is no way that the diamond's that are currently out there has the 850 band hsdpa. No software update is suppose to give it the hsdpa band because it lacks the HARDWARE. I know that the gprs band of 850 is able, is it possible that you are connecting to some other band of 3g in your area? I really wanna buy a diamond but I dont wanna be stuck with this phone and not be able to use 3g in my area (us) PLEASE SOMEONE ELSE SHED SOME LIGHT HERE. There are people in this thread that say it dont work and then there are people that are saying it does, thanks for any help
Not true. It's not a hardware issue, it's radio issue.
After you get the diamond and flash that radio there is a setting to change the band. I don't remember it though T.T
can someone confirm that i can use the diamond on us 3g band (850) by just a new radio and setting?
She's probably getting the 2100mhz HSDPA band in AUS unless she's edited the radio, the phone is only capable of 900/2100mhz HSDPA right now. Here's the killer... The Touch Pro just passed FCC... And no HSDPA/UMTS/WCDMA whatsoever. No 3G.
Hi everyone--
I have an unmodded, "unlocked" at&t tilt that has a t-mobile gsm sim chip in it. I'm still running the WM6 that came in it, and can't seem to get access to the 3G speeds I know this thing is capable of. I've tried numerous software apps to "force" the phone to go 3G, to no avail. T-Mobile customer "support"--HAA! tells me I need a t-mobile phone to be able to take advantage of the 3G speeds. Needles to say, I feel this is a bunch of malarkey. T-Mobile put out this phone, did they not, and called it the "MDA Vario III"? Is there a rom for the mda that I could flash this thing with so I could get the 3G speeds? Or another rom perhaps? Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks!
tripp
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Hi everyone--
I have an unmodded, "unlocked" at&t tilt that has a t-mobile gsm sim chip in it. I'm still running the WM6 that came in it, and can't seem to get access to the 3G speeds I know this thing is capable of. I've tried numerous software apps to "force" the phone to go 3G, to no avail. T-Mobile customer "support"--HAA! tells me I need a t-mobile phone to be able to take advantage of the 3G speeds. Needles to say, I feel this is a bunch of malarkey. T-Mobile put out this phone, did they not, and called it the "MDA Vario III"? Is there a rom for the mda that I could flash this thing with so I could get the 3G speeds? Or another rom perhaps? Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks!
tripp
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Unfortunately, the malarkey is the truth! Because T-Mobile runs its 3G network on a different band than the Tilt is capable of! Sorry, this also effects me as I am a T-Mobile customer using a Tilt as well! My advice is to use Opera mini 4.2 for your internet browsing it is very fast on the Edge network!
The T-Mobile you refer to is European
It does not run on the same 3G as the US T-Mobile. The US T-Mobile uses 1700 Mhz and 2100 Mhz, I believe. The Tilt does not use the 1700 Mhz band. There was a rumor going around that there would be a new version of the Kaiser (KAIS140) that would use the US T-Mobile 3G bands but it was never released for sale. I don't think it will since it is pretty much at the end of the life cycle of the phone. They (HTC) have moved on to newer models with more features. If you would like to use the US 3G and live in an area with 3G, The T-Mobile G1 (HTC Dream) uses T-Mo 3G and has its own section on this forum.
bleh. newer models should still freaking tilt. that is the coolest thing about this phone. and it's pretty solid construction. my friend has had his over a year and its still going strong.
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Unfortunately, the malarkey is the truth! Because T-Mobile runs its 3G network on a different band than the Tilt is capable of! Sorry, this also effects me as I am a T-Mobile customer using a Tilt as well! My advice is to use Opera mini 4.2 for your internet browsing it is very fast on the Edge network!
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I thought the Tilt accessed 3G through it's tri band frequencies 850/1900/2100Mhz so that it could connect to most 3G networks worldwide, making it a world business tool for users?
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I thought the Tilt accessed 3G through it's tri band frequencies 850/1900/2100Mhz so that it could connect to most 3G networks worldwide, making it a world business tool for users?
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True but T-Mobile uses the 1700 for upload and 2100 for download. ATT uses 1900 for both.
I've Googled around for the better part of the morning and not found an answer.... forgive the noob question. I'm a programmer, but I don't know much about mobile tech/programming.
I have an unlocked Treo 750 I use on T-Mobile. Software Treo750-2.25-ATT Firmware 1.54.27.00. I'd like to know if it's possible to use the T-Mobile US 3G network. I was told it wasn't possible due to T-Mo using 1700/2100 band, which the Treo can't access.
Would upgrading the radio version allow me to do this? If so, is that the only piece that would need to be updated? Which radio version? From what I've read, it and the ROM talk to one another but radio capabilities aren't determined/defined by the ROM. Is that correct?
Many thanks in advance,
Richard
Not sure but I think it will
Radios do not work like that. The antennas in the phone are calibrated to work on certain frequency ranges. It's the same reason that a normal FM car antenna would work poorly for shortwave or CB.
The radios in the phone are approved (at least for the US) to work on preset frequencies by the FCC as well, so they will not even have the capability to work on any other bands because if they were broad-spectrum radios, the phone would fall into another category of device as mandated by the FCC.
Thus, any phone will only work on the bands that it is designed to.
I have an unlocked 02 HD7 which I brought with me before emigrating from the UK.
I am currently using it on Rogers, however I am thinking of upping sticks and moving to windmobile which is AWS. I know that the HD7 was sold be TMO US so it is AWS compatible but was this a different hardware to the O2 version or is there a way to get it to work on AWS (radio rom flash etc.)
Thanks
Tim
Shameless bump, anyone know the answer. Or alternatively know if you can use a Euro HD7 on TMo US?
Tim
From what i know about O2 is that they don't use the same frequencies as such changing the radio version won't do any good as the physical antenna design wont work with the AWS frequencies. your best bet would be to sell the HD7 and buy a new one a Tmo version. I bought mine about a week ago for $425CAD in Toronto and am now using it on Wind.
They're different hardware. The Bell HD7 doesn't work on WIND for the same reason.
Thanks for you help, hoped it wasn't the answer but guess I will sell up and move on.
Tim