Hi,
I was just wondering. What are your Battery Status: CPUSCALER settings?
Did it worked well with the battery?? Tell us about your Exeperience and with what device.
I will start off:
HTC Herald Running WM6 with Touch-it v4.4 Rom
CPU Scaler:
Min. 143Mhz
Org. 201Mhz
Max. 273Mhz
Boost 299Mhz
Battery Life: Not really satisfied. But then again my GPRS is turned ON All the time so.
Can't wait to see what your settings are
Min: 143
Org: 201
Max 247
Boost:286
It seems pretty good
My screen goes a bit weird if i go over 247 but at 286 its normal again, so i gotta skip every speed in between lol
Running @ 273 for 3 months straight and not a single bump in the road. According to batterystatus, I'm usually sitting at only a 20-40 mA draw 99% of the time, which seems to increase only when I'm either on the phone or on GPRS/WiFi, then exceeding 200+ mA.
also running 273mhz all time. i did on my wizard for 2 years and now with my herald for 1 year - WITHOUT problems.
don´t like scalar...
Wow Suprised by you non Scaler users
Because everyone was telling me that scaling is the best. Because when you doing nothing, your phone runs at Underclock which saves your battery.
Instead of unneccesarily overclock when you doing nothing... But I diddnt know that when you are doing nothing on overclock that your phone reduces the mA untill you doing something.... (Pretty logical)
On the other hand: I don't think that its healty for the cpu to switch from Mhz every time you touch the phone
Any more reporters? Lets us know!!! We are curious! (well i am curious )
EDIT:
I am going to test the mA draw on different Clock speeds. See if it makes a different. I will post here for updates
286 constant
Battery Life Good
Speed Great
Ayerthon said:
Wow Suprised by you non Scaler users
Because everyone was telling me that scaling is the best. Because when you doing nothing, your phone runs at Underclock which saves your battery.
Instead of unneccesarily overclock when you doing nothing... But I diddnt know that when you are doing nothing on overclock that your phone reduces the mA untill you doing something.... (Pretty logical)
On the other hand: I don't think that its healty for the cpu to switch from Mhz every time you touch the phone
Any more reporters? Lets us know!!! We are curious! (well i am curious )
EDIT:
I am going to test the mA draw on different Clock speeds. See if it makes a different. I will post here for updates
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Ok These are my test results:
(No GPRS/Wifi)
145Mhz
51mA
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(No GPRS/Wifi)
299Mhz
75mA
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(With GPRS/Wifi on and Using a Program that uses GPRS)
145Mhz
+200mA
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(With GPRS/Wifi on and Using a Program that uses GPRS)
299Mhz
+200mA
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(With GPRS/Wifi on with no program that uses GPRS/Wifi)
145Mhz
60mA
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(With GPRS/Wifi on with no program that uses GPRS/Wifi)
299Mhz
88mA
So as we can see. You dont really have to Scale. Because Power Drain is being judged by GPRS/Wifi/Phone use. And it doesnt matter how high your O'C is the power drain will always be +200mA when using the GPRS/WIFI/Phone
when you are using batterystatus to check mA-usage. i should tell you that many threads on wizard-subforum are discussing that Baterrystaus NEVER shows the right cpu usage.....
BUT for me - i releoad my battery every nd day. and there it only felt to 40%....
when device is in standby it is at 201Mhz - as it is supposed to be by default HTC -so why underclock???
and when i´m using it at 273mhz - ALL is acting faster, menue, start programs, wirting sms, .....
so why not overclock after wakup?
papamopps said:
when you are using batterystatus to check mA-usage. i should tell you that many threads on wizard-subforum are discussing that Baterrystaus NEVER shows the right cpu usage.....
BUT for me - i releoad my battery every nd day. and there it only felt to 40%....
when device is in standby it is at 201Mhz - as it is supposed to be by default HTC -so why underclock???
and when i´m using it at 273mhz - ALL is acting faster, menue, start programs, wirting sms, .....
so why not overclock after wakup?
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I guess because some people said that its Dangerous to enable on Wakeup. Something about when you overclock to much and it goes to sleep it wont boot up but will make a loop...
But then again I'm like. Then don't overclock to much xD Right!?
Hahah
Ayerthon said:
I guess because some people said that its Dangerous to enable on Wakeup. Something about when you overclock to much and it goes to sleep it wont boot up but will make a loop...
But then again I'm like. Then don't overclock to much xD Right!?
Hahah
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it is dangorous to OVERCLOCK up to 300 - AND to set it after RESET!!!
so when i get intoo trouble with setting to wakeup - i softreset AND at the FIRST startup it is set to 201. when turning OFF and ON again it is overclock again....
there is a little difference between "afteer wakeup" and "after reset"
Hummm...
@ papamopps: which program are you using to overclock your herald? The others seem to be using cpuscaler, and you?
BRSG said:
Hummm...
@ papamopps: which program are you using to overclock your herald? The others seem to be using cpuscaler, and you?
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i guess they are using Batterystaus (as i do) with the function of cpuscalar!!!
Ok then...
papamopps said:
also running 273mhz all time. i did on my wizard for 2 years and now with my herald for 1 year - WITHOUT problems.
don´t like scalar...
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Same here, I never use scaler.
Hey everyone, there is an overclocking app in the market, anyone care to give it a try?
Edit: So I downloaded it lol. Here are some screenshots. BTW, is there anyway I can verify that the cpu freq is actually being adjusted?
*Just for fun I ran neocore to see if it would raise my FPS. lol.
just notice the difference in speed. If you notice please post. And its not overclocking its just clocking. Overclocking will be beyond 528 MHz
Gameloft said:
just notice the difference in speed. If you notice please post. And its not overclocking its just clocking. Overclocking will be beyond 528 MHz
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The app is called Overclock, you can argue with the developer about the name not me.
Anyways, I do notice a very nice speed increase.
For example, atrackdog would take me at least 20-30 seconds to load my full app list (184 apps)
After installing overclock, it loaded in under 5 seconds.
i'll run other programs, and post my results.
I ran droidgear (game gear emulator) before and after, and I can honestly say it was faster (not a placebo affect).
-Before: droidgear would take over 4 minutes just to get to the menu screen
-After: i was actually able to load a game in under 1 and a half minutes, I even let it sit to run the demo, and it is the fastest ive ever seen an emulator run on this device (compared to NesEmu, and GB emu)
It would probably actually be playable if tweaks were made to the application codebase, and android Open GL stack.
Also, the camera loads instantly after pressing the camera button and via the icon in the home screen.
well, i was too, and then i downloaded it and said "aahh, what the hell, if i break mine, ill just take my wifes haha..." probably not the best of plans but i installed it anyway
sooo i havnt burnt up my phone yet, but here is my issue with the app, does the app only work untill you reboot your phone?
because when i reboot my phone, it goes back to the default speed according to the app
also, my phone tends to hang up (stuck on the apps screen, no buttons work, screen wont rotate, power button wont shut screen off) when using the 528MHz
so far, i havnt found a reason to pay a dollar for it, but ill keep testing
[UPDATE]
resolution for all below tests is 320 x 480
i tried neocore like posted above, using the mid level setting, and i actually did raise my fps from
DEFAULT CPU (248 MHz): 20.5 (with sound off)
384 MHz: 25.0! (with sound off)
DEFAULT CPU (248 MHz): 14.5 (with sound on)
384 MHz: 20.8 (with sound on)
still havnt gotten the fast speed to work yet, but im still trying to figure that out, on another note, sweeter home does seem to load a little faster
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Incase you didnt see my sig, im not running on a ADP1 phone, so that might by why the fastest setting doesnt work for me, but so far 384MHz is making a noticeable difference with NEOCORE and SWEETER HOME
andonnguyen said:
The app is called Overclock, you can argue with the developer about the name not me.
Anyways, I do notice a very nice speed increase.
Also, the camera loads instantly after pressing the camera button and via the icon in the home screen.
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i use snap photo, which used to take FOREVER to load up on my g1 using the camera button, its significantly faster using the 384MHz setting, good observation
Ok, so so far here is a list of things ive noticed (using 384MHz vs 248MHz):
-FPS in NEOCORE increased on adverage 5 to 6 fps
-Sweeter Home doesnt lag NEARLY as much as it used to (ALOT less force closes)
-Snap Photo doesnt take a month to load using the camera button
-G1 Wakes up properly which was a issue my g1 (and others on this forum) had
-Even though the app says it will "kill" the battery, using 384MHz during normal use of the phone isnt "killing" my battery, however, doom (while runs better (even with sound on)) seems to be dropping my battery level faster, but the game is running faster, which is the trade off id expect when running these apps together
At this point is there really a need? My phone doesnt lag that much that I need to over clock not to mention my battery life sucks already.
speoples20 said:
At this point is there really a need? My phone doesnt lag that much that I need to over clock not to mention my battery life sucks already.
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all of our battery life sucks unless you have the extended battery, im not getting THAT big of a battery drain according to the system monitor app, and it DOES make a difference on g1's that have lag issues (running tons of apps like i do)
in other threads, people have complained about the g1 not waking up quickly sometimes, ive yet to have that issue since ive clocked mine up to the 384MHz setting
@woot, you do know that the default cpu freq on the G1 is ~384mHz. So you might want to change in your sig that you're overclocked to 384mHz lol.
The program installs a script on your sd card called ocx_tmp.sh and adjusts it that way, it'll write to /system as -rw (from what I've discussed with someone) would probably cause instability.
The program will reset the cpu freq back down to 384mHz after the phone sleeps. You can verify this in terminal emulator by typing:
$su
#cat /proc/cpuinfo
Try it before and after setting the cpu freq in overclock and you'll see what I mean =)
I thought the the CPU ran at 528 MHz by default? Or is it clocked dynamically and this forces it?
Gameloft said:
just notice the difference in speed. If you notice please post. And its not overclocking its just clocking. Overclocking will be beyond 528 MHz
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andonnguyen said:
@woot, you do know that the default cpu freq on the G1 is ~384mHz. So you might want to change in your sig that you're overclocked to 384mHz lol.
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im not as familiar with clocking/overclocking so i wasnt sure if i was clocking it to 384, overclocking it to 384, or what, so what would be the proper thing to put in my sig? lol because according to my first quote, true overclocking wouldnt be untill i went beyond 528, so from the view of my first quote, im not OVERclocking, im clocking, wheras your saying im overclocked
andonnguyen said:
The program will reset the cpu freq back down to 384mHz after the phone sleeps. You can verify this in terminal emulator by typing:
$su
#cat /proc/cpuinfo
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so is it infact the program thats changing the cpu freq or is it the phone? if its the program, is this to avoid overworking the cpu without the demand?
andonnguyen said:
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The program will reset the cpu freq back down to 384mHz after the phone sleeps.
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by sleep do you mean turning the screen off using the power button? because i saw no change in my cpu freq when doing so using your commands
ivanmmj said:
I thought the the CPU ran at 528 MHz by default? Or is it clocked dynamically and this forces it?
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dont know, but i found this over at the android community:
Technical Features
Supports WCDMA/HSUPA and EGPRS networks
Multimedia Broadcasting Multicast Service (MBMS)
Integrated ARM11™ applications processor and ARM9™ modem
QDSP4000™ and QDSP5000™ high-performance digital signal processors (DSP)
528 MHz ARM11 Jazelle™ Java® hardware acceleration
Support for BREW® and Java applications
Qcamera™: Up to 6.0 megapixel digital images
Qtv™: Playback up to 30 fps VGA
Qcamcorder™: Record up to 24 fps QVGA
Up to 4 million triangles per second, and 133 million depth-tested, textured 3D pixels per second fill rate
gpsOne® position-location assisted-GPS (A-GPS) solution
Support for third-party operating systems
Digital audio support for MP3, aacPlus™ and Enhanced aacPlus
Integrated Mobile Digital Display Interface (MDDI), Bluetooth® 1.2 baseband processor and Wi-Fi® support
maybe that info will help? if not sorry
I remember reading somewhere by someone that it runs at 384 by default, and I think the post above confirms that...
ivanmmj said:
I thought the the CPU ran at 528 MHz by default? Or is it clocked dynamically and this forces it?
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no, it runs at 384 by default, and clocks down even lower in the idle loop.
i am curious how this program works, as the normal cpufreq interfaces are not compiled in the kernel.
i've been running my phone for several months now at 528mhz, at a fairly minimal detriment to battery life.
i did however notice that without modifying the idle loop, the amount of cpu frequency switches even while the phone is not sleeping drops your average clock within a 10 second period to somewhere closer to 400mhz.
after modifying the idle loop to not switch frequency so often, i was able to get 27.4fps out of neocore w/o sound, and 22.7fps w/ sound.
my overall caffeine benchmark score was 582.
battery life impact is there, but fairly small. phone lasts for about a day and a half now where it used to last for sometimes 2. under heavy use, this is of course dramatically reduced.
gui fluidity is definitely increased, and sluggishness between app switches and when the translucent app drawer opens up is gone. i like it, but to the average person there probably is no need to do it.
keep in mind this is also not overclocking the cpu, it's clocking it to its default spec. as it is an embedded arm, it is designed to run hot, so i guarantee you are in no danger of hurting your phone.
also, do not listen to people that claim there could be no gain from overclocking, just because the bus speed is slower than the cpu speed does NOT mean there will be no improvement in system performance. if that were the case, there'd be no use for 4ghz desktop processors.
cache still runs full speed, and common execution paths stay in cache meaning no prefetch from system memory, meaning BIG improvement in many cases. (that's why cache exists.)
damnoregonian said:
no, it runs at 384 by default, and clocks down even lower in the idle loop.
i am curious how this program works, as the normal cpufreq interfaces are not compiled in the kernel.
i've been running my phone for several months now at 528mhz, at a fairly minimal detriment to battery life.
i did however notice that without modifying the idle loop, the amount of cpu frequency switches even while the phone is not sleeping drops your average clock within a 10 second period to somewhere closer to 400mhz.
after modifying the idle loop to not switch frequency so often, i was able to get 27.4fps out of neocore w/o sound, and 22.7fps w/ sound.
gui fluidity and responsiveness is greatly improved. sluggishness if app switching and the translucent app drawer are completely gone.
for many i imagine this means there isn't really any reason to clock the cpu up to its stock speed, but to each their own.
my overall caffeine benchmark score was 582.
battery life impact is there, but fairly small. phone lasts for about a day and a half now where it used to last for sometimes 2. under heavy use, this is of course dramatically reduced.
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care to write up a how-to for getting the 582 consistantly and changing the idle loop?
Holy crap. Used this @528MHz with Haykuro's version 4.5 apps to sd ROM and the osk works SO MUCH BETTER!!!! Also I got 25.6 fps on neocore... very smooth
wootroot said:
care to write up a how-to for getting the 582 consistantly and changing the idle loop?
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writeup? no. it's a big process involving the android dev environment, a modified version of mkbootimg and unyaffs.
i will gladly post the kernel modifications for those who want to recompile the kernel to do so.
the bootloader sets the clock speed, and the idle loop simply clocks down to a preset and back up to whatever it was previously after x milliseconds of inactivity (not to be confused with sleep) it's kind of a poor man's cpufreq arbitrator.
so on top of tweaking the idle loop to not drop down as often, you also have to explicitly set the frequency in the kernel upon bootup, or it will bet set at what it thinks is full speed, which is 384.
A modded version of JF's ROM would ROM.
I DO notice the sluggishness and it bugs the heck out of me. (I switched from a WING with a 200MHz CPU, and although it IS faster than the wing, it doesn't seem significantly faster and seems to much slower when I open up the camera...
damnoregonian said:
writeup? no. it's a big process involving the android dev environment, a modified version of mkbootimg and unyaffs.
i will gladly post the kernel modifications for those who want to recompile the kernel to do so.
the bootloader sets the clock speed, and the idle loop simply clocks down to a preset and back up to whatever it was previously after x milliseconds of inactivity (not to be confused with sleep) it's kind of a poor man's cpufreq arbitrator.
so on top of tweaking the idle loop to not drop down as often, you also have to explicitly set the frequency in the kernel upon bootup, or it will bet set at what it thinks is full speed, which is 384.
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that involved eh?
thanks for this post though, now i understand more about the idle loop and why the cpu freq resets with each reboot
maybe someone can take this stuff further like he said, that kind of stuff would be worth the dollar, imo more than a dollar
well... i don't mind providing basic procedure and source, i just don't want to get dragged into level 1 support of the procedure.
i'll go ahead and package up some source, prebuilt boot images based on JF's RC33 (which is what i run) and a basic procedure.
Hi,
today I load omapclockkeep and used it. And I set the speed to 300Mhz. But after that the mobile freezes and after reboot it hangs every time and restarts . I dont no what to do.
Ok i did with a hard reset. I had to make a compination of pushing buttons while the mobile starts and now it restarts. Here you can see if you want:
hardreset.eu/htc_touch_viva_opal_hard_reset_soft_reset_en.html
Yriel40k said:
Hi,
today I load omapclockkeep and used it. And I set the speed to 300Mhz. But after that the mobile freezes and after reboot it hangs every time and restarts . I dont no what to do.
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Lol on an Omap Device I believe 300Mhz is way to high...
Besides, any frequency higher than 216 MHz will introduce the infamous camera bug, which is not solved till now. (i.e. you can't use the camera above 216 MHz)
However, I'm able to run my OMAP @ 240 MHz, and it's stable, but you'll have to deal with a shortened battery life. But the performance increase is WELL worth it!
GFX said:
Besides, any frequency higher than 216 MHz will introduce the infamous camera bug, which is not solved till now. (i.e. you can't use the camera above 216 MHz)
However, I'm able to run my OMAP @ 240 MHz, and it's stable, but you'll have to deal with a shortened battery life. But the performance increase is WELL worth it!
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Well Said my friend.
I recommend Homescreen++, it has an awesome dynamic overclock function called CPU scaler. My phone is running 195 minimum, 273 max and 286 boost.
It'll lower the frequency when it's idle, push it to 286 when it's doing something intensive and then it'll hover around the original 201 and 273 max.
Plus you can add camera.exe to the exception list so it'll clock it to 201 and you won't get any kind of artifacts in your image.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682663
I just wanted to point out the the leo/hd2 cpu speed app works on the expo.
Installed great, but I cant verify the reclock speed... Im not sure if it is running faster or not. What speed did you set yours to?
i just left my cpu at the default.
Interesting little program, found that my Expo was stable up till 1115, and anything above that it froze. But basically you have to be plugged in to use anything about the 900 MHz, so, unless you want to disable auto-scaling on the CPU it's not of much use.
yeah I am quite disappointed that lg did not make an extended battery for the expo.
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I use setcpu to do this.
Look into the governors, choose one.
Then choose the appropriate thresholds (in the advanced menu) for what you do.
It doesn't allow you to tweak per app, but tells the cpu governor at what %of cpu to move to the next cpu speed (up or down).
I set mine very low, as i care more about battery than performance. So my up threshold is like 95% or something.
But my down threshold is a lot more agressive.
But you do the opposite.
MuF123 said:
Hello,
my question is regarding dynamic overclocking. I've used the ones that raise the speed when under a load - but my question is -
Is there a way to return to stock clocks after certain time?
Explanation:
situation1: I want to check new single mail or open new single IM or check university's website for some news, I want the device to be FAST as possible, nevermind the battery.
situation2: I want to use maps/navigation/IM/games/web browsing for longer period of time (hours?) with the screen on. I don't need all the power when I play solitaire, text on IM or browse not-so-important news websites.
I think when I've seen the realtime clock displayed on my phone it jumped to max clock right after I've clicked almost anything on the screen. I want the speed-up, but after certain period of time to stop doing this in favor of the battery life-time.
Any ideas how to do this? Thanks!
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Yes, just throttle the cpu to give you more power when you are sluggish. That could work for you.
Me? I have my droid do 110 when screen is off (works quite well!), and then I FORCE the unit to 1000 when plugged in. Besides that i throttle the cpu based on battery power: more cpu power with more battery life. Makes my droid last longer.
I might want to add a throttle up when sluggish and not in my personal battery red zone and a throttle down when the cpu gets too hot period.
Any cpu frequencies that you all would suggest?
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MuF123 said:
Thanks for the reply, but - think about this, I will start a 3D game, it will use 100% of the cpu so it would always stay at the highest possible frequency (+highest voltage). I don't want that.
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I dont get it?
You dont want max speed in game? Why do you overclock?
If the game requires 100%, the it will (and should) clock up.
As soon as the game doesnt, it will clock down (depends on your threshold).
The only other i could see, is to change the max clock rate in setcpu before you play the game. This will ensure it doesnt clock higher than your choice, but requires a manual step.
But seriously, if your cpu is pegged at 100, why would you not want it to step up the higher speed?
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MuF123 said:
exactly - I don't want minimum battery in game, that's why I don't want to overclock.
actually from the nature of 3d rendering I think every game will run at 100%, but the situation when the game hits the frame limiter (not likely on milestone).
I want snappy performance while doing few quick tasks:
e.g.: new IM comes, I want to unlock, load the application, get to the IM, reply, lock. (40seconds)
or
taking phone from cradle - I want the phone to load homescreen fast, rotate the screen, open phone app, to look at last missed call and call back (20seconds).
Battery life won't be affected by 40 or 20seconds of ~1100mhz, okay.
And then I start a game for a prolonged time. It will run smoothly even on 550MHz, the additional frames I see are just waste of battery = I don't want that.
So now I have two options - either run at max speed and it will be always fast and it will drain my battery when I decide to play for an hour.
OR
I can use default speeds for longer battery life for everything and I will wait an hour to rotate the screen in browser or IM app.
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You could compromise and find a max speed that you could undervolt to make it drain battery like stock. My 800mhz vsel is less than the default vsel @550. So the battery drain is less...
It requires some trial and error, but most "slight" overclocks (700,800; depends on the phone) can be configured to drain less than stock.
Of course, if you feel you need 1000 or 1100, this wont work as it requires increasing the vsel (or at least not decreasing it).
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