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WE all have come across android as 1 of the most impressive OS in mobile tech..
wel.. as the htc dream has turned out to be bit of dissapointment.......
i wish to know that what could be the ideal phone in the current scenario that supports anderoid the best..
or what could be the yet to to launched phones one should eye upon..
any suggestions??
Android "Dream" G1. It's the only phone that *officially* supports Android at the moment, and the only one it works properly with.
Any other phone that currently *could* run Android has to be hacked to work properly, hence the threads for Diamond, Touch Pro, X1 (mostly HTC devices that have similar hardware) where people are actively working on getting Android working on various devices.
SE have said that they will be developing an Android phone, more than likely the "X2", I don't know of any others that will support Android yet.
I’d like to know if you’ll be able to upgrade your present phone from 6.1 to 6.5 and then later 7? I’ve just bought my Touch Diamond and will be using it for atleast 2 years, would be a shame if I couldnt upgrade the OS when it comes out…
Kind of like asking how long is a piece of string??? Considering no one really knows what hardware specification will be required to run either WinMo 6.5 or WinMo 7... IMHO I would say that WinMo 6.5 highly possible (Tread in Diamond ROM section with an apparently leaked version, although not for the Touch Diamond) , WinMo 7 only Micro$oft will be able to answer that one???
windows mobile is made for a specific phone... drivers, enhancements, everything. if they decide to provide us with an upgrade, we get an upgrade. if a device VERY similar to ours has it, we *might* be able to use it too. beyond that, you can't go to the store and buy it, so we're really at the mercy of everybody else involved.
According to some of the teaser details already released about Windows Mobile 7, it will likely require a capacitive screen, and the G1 is the only phone by HTC to use one so far.
We don't really know much about WM7 though. That teaser info that was released quite a while ago hinted at possible gesture recognition, multitouch, etc., but I think that release was as much marketing ploy as anything else.
I doubt that WM7 will require a capacitive screen, although I would expect that it will support them. There are a number of reasons not to ditch resistive screens. Fine detail can't be input on a capacitive screen, which causes numerous problems. Complex alphabets (Asian), legacy support for existing applications, cost... the list goes on, but requiring capacitive screens would essentially erase the entire foundation that WM is built on. I don't think MS wants to do that. The great thing about WM (and MS vs Apple in general) is that they don't tie you to one piece of hardware. You have much greater flexibility in terms of cost, features, form-factor, etc.
I was hoping for WM7 this year, but now that most announcements put WM6.5 devices at Q3-Q4, it seems highly doubtful we'll see a WM7 device until at least mid 2010. By that time I'll be ready for a new device anyway (Tegra, new Qualcomm/AMD chipset, who knows), so the issue is almost moot. I'm with you though, I'd still like to see WM7 on the Diamond/Pro/HD!
Because I am quite disappointed with Samsung Galaxy S, I will sell it and buy another phone soon.
I am very fond of HTC Desire HD but is it worth to buy another Android phone or is better to give a try to iOS, Symbian ^3 or maybe Windows Mobile 7.
What are your suggestions?
From personal experience, I doubt the iOS beats android in any way. Symbian is too simple and plain for my taste. However, I don't know much about the latest symbian, but the N8 works on a much slower CPU than the SGS. As for windows mobile 7, since it's new, it might be worth a try but we can never really know till reviews start flooding the net... Personally, I think you're being a bit hasty with throwing away the SGS. With froyo just around the corner, it would really improve the phone overall, and would certainly be comparable with the Desire HD. After having done my own research, I concluded and opted for an android phone by choice, for IMHO it IS currently the best upcoming mobile phone OS. Ultimately, you just have to be patient with new technology, so irrespective of the OS or the manufacturer, there's really no point rushing. You will NEVER find 'The Perfect Phone'.... Just my two cents.
Hold out for Meego if Symbian ends up on top of your list, but that'll be 2011. If you want something with everything laid out for you and a good app store, iOS is a fine option, but it definitely depends on what your problem is with SGS and how much of that is Android/Samsung based. iOS has high satisfaction rates, but most people who get in there have stuck along, knew what they were getting into or don't know any better. Android, some people who aren't technical enough or like tinkering and having options just bought in because it's popular and they hear enough about it, but they didn't know what they were getting into. Still, as far as I know, Android has the second highest customer satisfaction, so if you need a decision for the here and now, go with Android or iOS. If you can wait until WP7, read up after the devices launch, it's not ready to compete with all things either platform can offer, but it does have long-term potential, particularly with gaming/MS integrations, but thus far from what I know I wouldn't buy it in the first 12 months of it's launch even if they start with the best hardware.
My advice is wait until Froyo.. The reason why you are disappointed is probably because it feels sometimes like Samsung aren't doing anything. This is because there aren't many leaks.
You may also be disappointed because many people here at XDA are jumping to incredibly uninformed conclusions. We have morons running around saying that Samsung will never release updates, people saying the lag can't be fixed in RFS (whilst Samsung might not have integrated a few performance patches) and newbies saying "the GPS problem is hardware" without ANY proof whatsobloodyever.
Also, whilst those who defend this phone regularly get called fanboy's, there are certainly a lot of HTC fanboys here too (which seems to be finally getting revealed now that many ex-HTC users are calling some of their ex-products worse).
Froyo might be a completely different ballgame (I wouldn't underestimate Samsung). But either way, a lot of people coming from other platforms are saying their SGS is better than their other phones anyway.
I wouldn't touch WM7 because:
1) Windows Mobile seems to be a dying platform. Unfortunately, Microsoft took too long to release it.
2) So this means they wont get many developers and users on-board.
3) Windows Mobile is closed source, and development isn't easy (You probably require Windows).
Why I wouldn't touch the iPhone:
1) For starters, Steve Jobs stood on stage and lied about the antenna. Rather than fix the problem, he called other mobiles rubbish (despite their antenna problems often being VERY difficult to replicate in real life). I have very little respect for that.
2) Development is difficult, you really need OSX. The OS is closed source too.
3) Many users NEED to jailbreak, because of restrictions in the store.
4) Apple products often have weird design issues, which people seem to ignore, but which exists.
5) Huge app store
6) iTunes.. Enough said..
Symbian
1) Symbian is open source, which is great...
2) But these days, only Nokia sells them. Symbian's marketshare will likely only decrease.
WebOS/Palm
1) Forget about WebOS. In most countries you can't find ANY webOS phones, so audience is VERY limited
Meego/Maemo
1) The Nokia N900 is the only phone that uses it.
2) But it probably runs faster than Android because it's compiled code.
3) But limited exposure. I'd consider it, if the hardware wasn't so sucky...
Android.
1) Apps might run slower, because it's bytecode
2) But, HUGE range of mobiles
3) Huge range of apps (Not as much as iPhone though)
4) Open source OS.
5) Evolving quickly, reliable vendor (Google know what they are doing)
6) The SGS seems to be the only laggy Android phone out there (probably due to a few bugs that need fixing in RFS, which might already be fixed in head/trunk).
I'd say hold off until Froyo. I have the feeling Samsung will surprise us. Remember, the leaks only show SOME integrated code, and even JPK could have been missing a whole lot of patches. A lot of claims made by users isn't true either.
The reason why some things haven't been fixed yet may also be because they are integrating the fixes directly into Froyo.
There is a VERY good reason why Android is quickly growing though. In fact, I'd be surprised if Android isn't #1 by next year. But I'd honestly have no problems buying another Android handset
about the rom, i want to know is WP8 rom are all Microsoft?
i mean if Microsoft put an OTA update on there cloud will i get is on the same day on 8X or 920?
or its like android where nokia or htc have to deliver it after optimization for there phone?
and for devs if some one is working on hacking WP8? and if soo is it going to be a custom rom or a jailbreak like IOS?
thanks
Won't be anything like IOS, far far far from It. It'll be exactly like WP7. Each device will require different exploits.
Some devices will get custom mods(hopefully), some won't. Simple as that.
Regarding your first question all updates come from Microsoft.
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The process with WP7 has been like this:
- Microsoft develops the OS specific updates
- Updates get sent to OEMs and Carriers for Testing and driver updates in case of the OEMs
- after approval by their partners Microsoft deploys the updates from their servers
There has been lots of speculation that with the introduction of the OTA Update system Microsoft will push smaller OS updates without carrier/oem testing. Actually installing an additional language pack for voice recognition which many people have done already uses that same update system. Core system updates still will have to go through the OEMs to ensure there are no compatibility issues with their hardware.
In that way there is no guarantee that all updates will be pushed to all devices in the same timeframe (Microsoft has never notified all devices of an update on the same day - they are using a staggered approach that rolls out updates over 3 - 4 weeks, similar to what they are doing with XBox dashboard updates, though it seems that manually checking on the phone should make the update appear anyway).
All in all past updates following Nodo (Microsoft's first update to WP7) have arrived on the majority of phones over such a 3-4 week timeframe, although there have been exceptions (Tango was not rolled out on some US carriers at all and Telefonica in spain regularly lagged behind by some months).
thanks ppl !! i got it now! i just hope in WP8 it wont be like android where users wait 6 months for a jelly been update or 4.1 -> 4.2
How long do you think ppl have been waiting for 7.8, duh
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How long do you think ppl have been waiting for 7.8, duh
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i meant after the update is published and has been delivered to HTC Samsung and ech
7.8 went RTM around two weeks ago. People are waiting for updates naturally but it's not like Microsoft releases them for some while everyone else has to wait.
soo basically we will never escape the wait for an update... beside nexus but i dont like android...
Hello there,
I've been reading this forum in past months, I'm a proud owner of a Ativ S. I've found this recently, so I want to share with you guys: winsupersite.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-8-update-3-update-your-handset-today
So anyone with a WP8 Device can, in theory, install pure GDR3 RTM in your phone (No, it's not the Preview). Here are the reqs and some observations:
- GDR2 must be already installed;
- It may void your wireless carrier warranty;
- You can't go back (downgrade it);
- It's pure GDR3, with no further improvements like drivers and softwares made by manufacturers (like Nokia Amber & Bittersweet Shimmer/Black)
Sadly my phone is still GDR1 (here in Brazil some things takes lots of time to happen...), and I can't test and verify if this works. But considering this is a reliable source for Microsoft official plans and there are positive comments, I guess that someone here can give a try and post the results below.
Have a nice day,
Are you sure you've been reading the forum for past months, plural? Because this news broke months *ago* (specifically, back in October, around the date your article is from...), with considerable excitement. The functionality to enable such updates has since been built into homebrew tweak apps, its impact on the various unlocks have been discussed extensively, people have pointed out that there's another update coming through the program, etc. Please search before posting!