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Rikaline 6010 GPS to xda Car Kit

Hi everybody,
I've got problems with connecting my Rikaline 6010 to the Car Kit. With the help of the forum I know now, wich pins I have to connect together. But I'm not be able to bring power to the Mouse. I have the +5V and GND connected but the LED on the mouse won't turn on. With a simple car adapter for the mouse and the xda it works perfect. I try to look inside the cable of the car adapter and it looks lite the cable, I build myself.
Maybe I have to short some pins inside the connector ??
Does anybody have a Rikaline 6010 successful connected to the xda car kit ?
thanks a lot
rob.

Make sure the switched power supply is connected.
I assume you are using the official XDA carkit.
I did some reverse engineering on this carkit and found that the GPS powerline is only working if the switched power line for the carkit is connected.
After disconnecting this line the GPS power will stay on for 1 hour and then automatically switch of.
Have you checked if there is power on the GPS connector of the carkit when nothing is connected? Maybe the current demand is to high? For pinlayout check www.vanhemert.biz
Francois

Hi Francois,
I think my problem is not the car kit. After it doesn't work with the carkit, I tried to connect my car-adapter-cable with the cable, I made myself to the gps-mouse. And also there, the mouse doesn't get power. So I simply put +5V and GND to the pins of the mouse-connection and it doesn't work.
Maybe GND must be connected to two pins or to the GND-pin AND the PS2-connector's metall ?
I think, I have to buy a H203e to make it work....
rob.

Pinlayout
I have looked at the data sheet (http://www.rikaline.com/pdf/gps-6010-manual-e.pdf) and it looks straightforward. Pin 2 and 4 should do the job but I can imagine that you need a correct RS232 signal to get the thing up and running. Are you sure that the LED is just an indication of power or does it only light if power and RS-232 is correct?
As you can see in the schematics on my website I had trouble opening the COM port on my XDA, Communication just did not start unless I pulled the DCD line (pin 6) to Vcc. This will activate Active sync in the same way as the original cable set I used to have.
Good luck,
Francois

Hi,
thanks for your reply. The LED on the GPS-Mouse have to turn on simply by bringing power to it. I've tried that by using my car adapter cable and simply connect the mouse to the cable and not connect the xda...and the LED turns on.
I've ordered today a Hi203E and I will try to conncet it as you described on your homepage....hope it will work (if not, I'll be back ;-))
thanks a lot
rob.

Hi Francois,
today I received my Hi203e and I will try to connect it to the carkit.
One Question:
Is the connector, which is shown on your homepage and labeled with "to gps" the female connector, which is wired to the gps-mouse or the male connector, which is wired on the selfmade cable between carkit and PS2-connector of the mouse ??
thanks
rob.

hi,
ok, my previous question is now obsolet. The connector, which is wired to the Hi203e, is male (at my Rikaline6010 it is female). So I have to buy a female connector and build new cable. I made a first test by bringing the +5V and GND of the carkit over an adaptercable to the gps-mouse and (yippie) it worked. The LED on the mouse turns on !! Looks pretty good.
...to be continued (if I have the new connector...)
rob.

Hi Francois,
I've got it now and it works perfect. Thanks again for the Info's on your webpage.
2 points:
I've got a low noise (frequently repeated) in the speaker, when the gps is active. Is there something to do against that ?
And how can I stop the activation of active-sync, when i put the xda into the carkit ?
Do you know that ?
thanks
rob

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rob said:
I've got a low noise (frequently repeated) in the speaker, when the gps is active. Is there something to do against that ?
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I would guess this is the speaker wire picking up the GSM signal, nothing to do with the GPS. Try re-aligning so that the wires relative to the antenna of the XDA. If that doesn't work, you could experiment with ferrite beads (these ugly black blocks on all modern cables) on the wires.

Same problem here, but...
I found that if I start serial communication with the GPS unit, i will hear some interferance via the speaker. It looks like the auto mute functions does not work immediatlly after inserting the XDA and "the connection is left open".
Workaround:
Pressing the red phone button to generate a tone (keypress) activates the automute and the interferance will disappear. (at least is does in my case)
Auto start of the active sync process:
This is caused by the DCD line pulled to Vcc. I first owned a standard GPS Y-cable (XDA/GPS/Lighter) and it showed the same behaviour. My first experiment was to not use the DCD line (just gnd, tx and rx)but at that time TomTom could not open the COM port. I did no further investigation but one of the forum members suggested to disable the IR connection and auto sync, this should free the com port to TomTom and not start active sync automatically. Again I have not tested it but if you will, i am interested.
Good luck,
francois

hi,
Been reading this thread with alot of interest...
can someone help me with a problem, I have the O2 carkit installed in my car, and i also have a rikaline 6010 that i would like to attach it.
I have found the GPS connector that i need to attach the GPS reciever to but when i check the connector for +5v its not there...
Does anyone know where i can connect it to... looks like the person who connect my carkit could'nt be bothered about connecting up the GPS connector properly...
and also the colour of wires that everyone mentions, mine are a different colour...
i have the following from my rikaline reciever, 4 in total...
red
black
green
white
does anyone know what connects to what????
Many Thanks
Zetex

Rikalinegps 6010 with cables - from eBay
This receiver is available with cable for XDA via eBay (see link below), but you guys have got me worried. I'm thinking of buying the Rikaline 6010 but am I going to have to do all this business of rewiring etc? What's the economical way of buying all the other bits that I need (Software, Car Kit etc)?
I'm looking for some easy to follow advice. Keep it simple please.
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Help me psl my IIi can not heard phone conversation

Help me psl my IIi can not heard phone conversation when plug sync charger.

I have exactly the same problem.
I bought a retractable sync/charge cable from ebay.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/PDA-Sync-and-Charge-Cables-and-Crad
However, if the cable is plugged into the phone, then the phone speaker (and I think also the mic) are muted. The cable dosn't even have to be plugged into the PC USB port to cause this problem.
At first I thought this was some incorrect wiring on pin 19 of the connector at the XDA end of the cable. This signal is meant to control whether the sound is driven out of the car kit pins or not. However, this signal was not connected on the connector, which should be ok.
I noticed that if the phone is paced in the original sync cradle, then the pda appears to go into handsfree mode, which would tally with one of the functions of pin 19.
All I can guess is that the s/w in the phone detects a signal on the USB pins and attempts to route sound out via the car kit pins.
Anybody know of a fix for this?
Cheers,
Chris.

I know many people have exactly this problem. It is not a problem of our XDAIIi, it is the problem of the Sync charger. I remember someone has shown how to fix this problem of the sync charger in a Vietnamese mobile phone forum but I don't understand anything 'bout electric so I can not translate it. What a pity!

Hi MrSandman,
I dont speak Vietnamese, but I do know electronics.
If you could post a link to the forum, I may be able to make some sense of it.
Thanks,
Chris.

I have the link but I'm sure u will not understand anything 'cause everything is in Vietnamese. In that topic, one guy said that he could fix that f***ing problem and if anyone wanted to fix it, just brought the sync charger to him. He just shown how to fix it in a few words that no one could understand. But in general, he said: "open the plug head of the sync charger and remove the first "masse" string". Does anyone know what is the "masse string"?

Fixed !!!
This works for my cable - but try this at your own risk!!
After thinking about it some more and re-reading the connector signal descriptions here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors
I took another look at the wiring in my cable.
I noticed that pin2 (GND/Sense) was connected to the other GND pins at the XDA end of the cable. The notes in the above web page states this will cause the phone to hang up.
I disconnected this pin from GND and now I can hear phonecalls when the cable is plugged into the phone.
I noticed that pin 5 (Analog GND) was also connected to the other GND pins which is also apparently a bad thing. I disconnected it just in case.
Pins 20,21 and 22 are the 5v positive charge connections. They are not connected in my cable and I wondered about connecting them to the USB 5v signal. I decided to leave it in the end as they may draw too much current form the USB port. The phone does charge anyway - just very slowly.
Hope this helps.
Chris.

Mentioned fix works fine for me
Thanks!

I have the same problem also.. i've read the wiki but did'nt catch well what it saying. Please put in in a simple words step by step what to do..oo please..

2 GND / SENSE
5 ANALOG GND
16 GND
17 GND
18 GND
In my cable connector there were two small red wires soldered to 3 pins (from '2' to '5' and from '5' to all three GND pins which were soldered together as one pin;
The thing is that '2' shouldn't be connected to GND. In wiki there were suggestion not to connect '5' to GND as well (has nothing to do with sound problem).
I removed those red wires and everything is working fine (I'm using it for a month now);
Be careful and good luck!

How to unlock when my USB port broken?

My phone is cingular 8125, my USB port can't sync with PC, I don't know what is going on. When I plug the cable to PC, it tell me unknow device detected. I can't do anything thur USB. Can I unlock by SD card or IR port?

Have you tried connecting you phone to a different PC? Also deinstall Activesync and reinstall it (are you running 4.2 or 4.5).

are you able to charge your phone with the AC/DC charger? if so ur port isnt broken.. so try doing what mmrfrazzz says and u could also go a step further and try uninstalling the usb port drivers then reinstalling them. do your other usb devices work? does ur phone indicate its charging when plugged into usb?

I have 2 8125, the other one is OK. I am using Activesync 4.2. I replaced the USB port, it's work for minutes. After dinner, it only charging but not sync!

tonytai said:
I have 2 8125, the other one is OK. I am using Activesync 4.2. I replaced the USB port, it's work for minutes. After dinner, it only charging but not sync!
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From what I understand from your post, it sounds like you have a cold solder joint on the contact or contacts that carry the sync signal; you may need to re-solder these. It only worked for a few minutes because when you applied pressure to the USB port by inserting the plug you compromised the already weak solder point. It works when charging because it charges over different contacts then when it synchronizes. It seems your first solder job was not sound.
PS. If the solder is dull (not shiny), it usually indicates a cold solder joint.

I had this problem with an 8125 i bought on friday for 20 bucks. they had broken the usb port. so i took one out of a razr phone and put on the 8125. at first it would only charge thru usb but not hook up on activesync. but then some how when i soldered it it worked and was able to update it and all that crap. The only thing is that it will not charge with a regular charger. it will only charge when connected to a computer. but hey atleast it works now.

Yes, I was re-soldered the USB port. I have compared my workable and the un-workable one by electric-meter. They are same connecting status, but just not work! I can be charge but not synchronize . Is some IC or chips damaged?

deviusdragger said:
I had this problem with an 8125 i bought on friday for 20 bucks. they had broken the usb port. so i took one out of a razr phone and put on the 8125. at first it would only charge thru usb but not hook up on activesync. but then some how when i soldered it it worked and was able to update it and all that crap. The only thing is that it will not charge with a regular charger. it will only charge when connected to a computer. but hey atleast it works now.
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which program do you use to over clock your 8125? can you post here or send to me? [email protected]

I use batterystatus. but the thing is is that some devices respond different to speeds. for example my MDA can only be overclocked to 286. anything higher it freezes up. On my 8125 i can overclock it to 299 with no problem at all. So its trial and error. try it out and see what you can get.

Activesync issue ?

My Tilt isn't syncronizing no more with PC, it used to work well but suddenly stopped. When I conect the cable just charges and nothing else. With the same cable Qtek S100 and TouchDual activate Activesync. Is there any way to reinstall just activesync on my Tilt?

apolllo said:
My Tilt isn't syncronizing no more with PC, it used to work well but suddenly stopped. When I conect the cable just charges and nothing else. With the same cable Qtek S100 and TouchDual activate Activesync. Is there any way to reinstall just activesync on my Tilt?
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I had what sounds like the exact same issue.....it turned out to be the pins in the usb connector on the device in that they were not contacting properly when the cable was plugged in....I was able to VERY GENTLY bend the pins back up which solved the issue immediately (need to be VERY careful not to bend them too much as they'll break) the centre of the connector is pretty flimsy as well so you need to take extreme care when doing this. I used a staple to push the pin up from the tip of the pin in the connector. It helps to have a magnifying glass or similar when your doing this.
Hope this helps. Cheers GT.

thanks you saved my life, i moved the pins activesync letme use the phone,already unlocked it

USB/ handsfree problem?

Hi all,
Got a bit of a random problem here. In the last couple of days my Tytn II stopped recognising the USB (wired) handsfree kit. It would simply continue to play sound to the normal speaker, rather than through the headphones.
Fairly simple issue, you might think - either the handsfree or the USB port. Except that the phone will connect to my PC via USB, and recognise that it's connected. And when I connect a friend's working USB handsfree kit (from an Orange SPV phone), I have the same problem on my phone.
Anyone got any ideas as to what the frig is going on and how I might fix it?
Thanks!

your device's usb port has crapped out...
from what i've read on countless other threads in this section of the kaiser forums, the usb port on your device has TWO sets of connections...
...the pins along the top and the pins along the bottom...one is for usb syncing and the other is for audio input/output...
...put your device under a strong light and (use a magnifying glass?) to check for bent pins or other wear and tear
...search for the threads i've mentioned for more insight and how to find a replacement part if it is needed in the worst case
good luck!

Ah, gotcha. That sounds more plausible than a driver issue, and would explain the disparity in hardware issues. I'll take a look!