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Kaiser: bluetooth stack problem!

aladin2000 said:
Hi,
do you tried also a buttom to call with voice command application or a phone call ?
I've a HTC S100 and the sound is well but it's very difficult to start a voice commande or to recall last call because seem that the function "hand free" sometime is lose.
Sorry for my poor English !
Regards
aladino
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I have the same problem with my handsfree headsets an Tytn II (kaiser):
i have a motorola H700 and a Scalarider headset for helmets.
They are bot NON-ADP and thyey support handsfree.
Sometimes the button on them stop working and I can't do voice dialing with Voice command neither repeat last call.
They appear as connected and If I manually call a number they work.
To get the button works again I have to restart the phone.
Maybe a fault in the microsoft bluetooth stack?
Also: my Motorola H700 has a flip and when you open it the headset turn on and get connected.
You should be able to answer phone calls by opening the flip.
Sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't connect if I open it while the phone is ringing and in that case I have to restart bluetooth connection to make it work again.
Microsoft or HTC should check end improve bluetooth stack!
Any hack around?
Can't we put the broadcom instead of microsoft stack on kaiser?

I wrote to HTC Support about this problem and they answered :
"Customer email address:XXXXXXXXXX
Good Afternoon,
The multi function button is the one small button with the led light in, not the big play/pause button.
If you try the other button, it should work.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Best regards,
XXXXX
HTC Europe
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com "
That's incredible don't you ?
They beleive I'm idiot ?
Regards
aladino

Astonished!
Amazing answer!
Are they idiot?
I'll write them too,
I hope someone cleverer will read the my mail
and suggest the bug to the technical stuff.

I have a motorola H350 and have been experiencing the same problems. It's driving me mad. The problem makes the use of the hands free totally useless as it seems to stop working at the drop of a hat.
What I've found so far.
To get it working you need to turn on the ear piece.
Then turn on the bluetooth on the phone.
If you do this any other way it doesn't work. Once it's working you may or may not be able to hang up with the button. If that's the case it won't answer with the button either.
Once it's working it seems to work ok till either the headset or the phone's bluetooth is turned off.
Voice dial will not fire up until the main procedure if followed and sometimes it takes several tries.
I was wondering if this was something to do with the motorola but seemingly it's to do with the stack so getting another device isn't going to help I guess.
The bluetooth worked perfectly on the Hermes but immediately I got the Kaiser one thing alerted me to the fact that something was different.
With the Hermes, as soon as I turned on the bluetooth and the earpiece the phone would alert me to the fact that the motorola wanted to connect.
With the Kaiser nothing, even when I searched for a device. I had to find out how to put the earpiece into search mode before it would find it.
Very flakey and very disappointing. I hope someone finds a fix for this.
Anyone else experiencing these problems?

I've got an H700 and Jawbone. I do notice more crackle type sounds and lower volume on both using Kaiser compared to my 8525. The H700 connects within 1-2 seconds when opening it's flip and I have noticed that on occasion, if I walk away from the phone (eg. phone on desk) the headset may not reconnect when I return. The Jawbone has been fairly good at connecting and staying functional at all times but the volume is lower as noted by many people.
I would say that the stack overall is better than the 8525's for all the devices I've tried (3 headsets, 2 Laptops, 1 Garmin Streetpilot with BT Phone interface)

I am also losing the Voice speed dial & redial button from time to time. It also worked that way with my hermes, so I kinda get used to it...
I am now wondering if it is related to my BT earpiece (nokia bh-200 or something like this) of if it is the BT stack which has never been really working on all the device I could test (hermes, trinity, kaiser).
I allmost never had issue recieving call (I don't recieve much call while using the BT earpiece) but it is sometime impossible to initiate a call through the BT earpiece.
The simplest way for me to lose the voice recognition is to:
-Start BT on the phone
-Start BT earpiece
Phone recognize the earpiece, everything is fine
-Restart the phone
Phone & BT reconnect, but voice recognition & redial are gone
I would really appreciate of some of you could test my little procedure and report if it works of not. If it is working for some other BT earpiece I may change mine and get rid of this eternal annoying issue.
Thanks

Jabra BT500
I have the Jabra BT500 and same problem with the TyTn II.
The earpiece can't initiate a voice call...
Looks like HTC (or Windows), starts to deliver ROMs like Mr. Bill Gates does with his M$ crap...
If someone find a solution for this Bluetooth problem, please post it!!!!
Thanks a lot,

Kaiser and Moto H700 just do not work together
I also have a problem with the Kaiser and a Moto H700. The M700 button stops working randomly, the BT connection sometimes disconnect during the call at will.
I can still use H700 successfully with my old Nokia 6680, so the problem clearly is in the Kaisers BT stack.
I’ve made the BT update that HTC posted just recently for TyTN II, but it had no effect.
Fortunately, I have my old Moto H500. This one is working OK with the Kaiser, but. Like it was pointed here before me, the only way to get it working you need to turn on the ear piece. Then turn on the Bluetooth on the phone.
In case if the Bluetooth connection was disrupted for some reason, the only way to make it work is again swath Kaiser BT off then turn on the ear piece and switch on the TyTNs BT.
The Kaiser’s BT stack is not good also connecting with a PC, the connection is just not stable.

Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.

Motorola headsets seem to have a problem with this device. I had trouble getting my H500 to connect and the voice button to work. Once I reset the phone when the headset was on and it wouldn't connect. I tried deleting and re-pairing. It took another reset to get it back. Fortunately I don't use that headset anymore.

jameselee said:
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
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The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.

costas2by4AIO said:
The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
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I just bought the same headset... cant get it work with the TyTN II - Kaiser but pairs without any problem with my TyTN I - Hermes... clearly it is the BT Stack
Way beyond my abilities, but cant the BT stack on Hermes be cooked into a rom for the Kaiser ?

I have a Motorola HT820 and a Motorola S9 both devices are working flawless with the kaiser.
Now i own a motorola S705 too , with this device my kaiser suddenly turn the bluetooth off (
regards

[Q] Bluetooth headset issue

Hi,
I've bought a "Jabra Stealth" headset and I'm unable to launch Google Now on my Nexus 6 (Android stock 5.0.1, FrancoKernel r8) with the dedicated button although it's a built-in feature of the headset. I assume that this is an issue of compatibility with Android 5.0. Jabra has answered me that I didn't configure vocal commands well but that's false. Has someone encountered the same problem and has a solution for it?
Thanks

xof9999 said:
Hi,
I've bought a "Jabra Stealth" headset and I'm unable to launch Google Now on my Nexus 6 (Android stock 5.0.1, FrancoKernel r8) with the dedicated button although it's a built-in feature of the headset. I assume that this is an issue of compatibility with Android 5.0. Jabra has answered me that I didn't configure vocal commands well but that's false. Has someone encountered the same problem and has a solution for it?
Thanks
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I have a similar issue. I use a Plantronics Voyager Legend. A couple of issues:
1) press and hold of the action button will bring up "voice dialer" instead of "google now". I dont know if you've ever tried to use voice dialer, but i think its more or less deprecated since the nexus 1 was the new kid on the block.
There is an app for bluetooth on the app store that lets you choose what to launch with that button. however, it didnt work that well for me. lots of lag and it blended together with other bluetooth related issues.
2) Bluetooth never seems to "turn off". I have a smart sensor enabled headset. IE the phone should know if i have the headset on or not, and pipe phone calls and notifications and ringtones to the speaker if i dont have it on and to the headset if i do. instead, the phone constantly pipes EVERYTHING to the bluetooth headset. no fix yet.
3) phone connection to my car's bluetooth makes my audiobook start playing. I have no idea why. it is not a setting in the audiobook app. Seems that the fix is to disable streaming media over bluetooth (contacts/messages only)
From what ive witnessed with issues regarding audio, screen brightness, bluetooth, this is yet another half-baked google product with little to no attempt at a proper follow through. just a crap device rushed to market with tons of potential and a complete crap OS and barely any thought or usability effort put into anything except the home screen.

I also have the N6 with the P Legend. I am having issues where the caller can barely hear me. Do you know if you have this issue at all?
shrimants said:
I have a similar issue. I use a Plantronics Voyager Legend. A couple of issues:
1) press and hold of the action button will bring up "voice dialer" instead of "google now". I dont know if you've ever tried to use voice dialer, but i think its more or less deprecated since the nexus 1 was the new kid on the block.
There is an app for bluetooth on the app store that lets you choose what to launch with that button. however, it didnt work that well for me. lots of lag and it blended together with other bluetooth related issues.
2) Bluetooth never seems to "turn off". I have a smart sensor enabled headset. IE the phone should know if i have the headset on or not, and pipe phone calls and notifications and ringtones to the speaker if i dont have it on and to the headset if i do. instead, the phone constantly pipes EVERYTHING to the bluetooth headset. no fix yet.
3) phone connection to my car's bluetooth makes my audiobook start playing. I have no idea why. it is not a setting in the audiobook app. Seems that the fix is to disable streaming media over bluetooth (contacts/messages only)
From what ive witnessed with issues regarding audio, screen brightness, bluetooth, this is yet another half-baked google product with little to no attempt at a proper follow through. just a crap device rushed to market with tons of potential and a complete crap OS and barely any thought or usability effort put into anything except the home screen.
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When the caller can barely hear you, check your phone. Sometimes, even though my headset is on, the phone doesn't care and attempts to use the phones speaker or mic.

shrimants said:
When the caller can barely hear you, check your phone. Sometimes, even though my headset is on, the phone doesn't care and attempts to use the phones speaker or mic.
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That's my current issue...
I can answer the calls with either my truck or ear piece, but both will randomly not have audio. The phone says it's connected BT, but I have to switch the source to speaker or handset and then click back over to BT. The whole time while I'm begging the person on the other end not to hang up and to hold on a second. Not bad when I'm at my desk with earpiece....let's just say it's a bit more nerve-racking on the highway.

scap99 said:
That's my current issue...
I can answer the calls with either my truck or ear piece, but both will randomly not have audio. The phone says it's connected BT, but I have to switch the source to speaker or handset and then click back over to BT. The whole time while I'm begging the person on the other end not to hang up and to hold on a second. Not bad when I'm at my desk with earpiece....let's just say it's a bit more nerve-racking on the highway.
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Same here. Also have a problem where, when on a call, an incoming call will kill bluetooth. This makes it unusable in my car as it becomes a real safety issue. I have to turn off BT and use the speakerphone which luckily is good enough for the job. Even switching the source and switching back doesn't always work for me.
I regret not sending the phone back for this problem. I'm waiting on v5.1 this month as rumored, hoping that will solve the problem. May just go back to my Lumina 925.

Has anyone tried going into Google settings app -> Search & Now -> Voice and turn on Bluetooth Headset (records audion through bluetooth headset if available).

I have Nexus 5 and Jabra Stealth and I had the same problem. I could solve it thanks to these indications: hackerspace.kinja.com/reassign-your-bluetooth-phone-button-to-open-google-n-1507391132

Same issue with calls not having audio through the car Bluetooth unless I switch to speaker/handset then back. I guess Marshmellow really messed up Bluetooth on a lot of people's phones not just us. Tried different rooms(AOSP, CM, stock) no help even tried updating the radio which helped Bluetooth crashing completely and requiring a restart but the phone issues remain.

Possible to use a Bluetooth Headset with Android Auto?

Hello,
I just purchased and installed a Pioneer AVH-4100NEX. So far it's pretty slick. I'll be using it with my Galaxy S6.
I noticed that when I try to disable the Call Audio Bluetooth profile from the phone side, it re-enables itself... like I HAVE to use the NEX for call audio.
I would like to be able to turn on my BT headset and use that instead, without much hassle. There are definitely times where I'll be in the car with other people and don't want the whole car to hear the conversation. It also presents a call quality issue with the far end being able to hear the system speakers.
Do I have to unplug USB from the NEX to make this work?

muzicman82 said:
Hello,
I just purchased and installed a Pioneer AVH-4100NEX. So far it's pretty slick. I'll be using it with my Galaxy S6.
I noticed that when I try to disable the Call Audio Bluetooth profile from the phone side, it re-enables itself... like I HAVE to use the NEX for call audio.
I would like to be able to turn on my BT headset and use that instead, without much hassle. There are definitely times where I'll be in the car with other people and don't want the whole car to hear the conversation. It also presents a call quality issue with the far end being able to hear the system speakers.
Do I have to unplug USB from the NEX to make this work?
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I would like to know this also

I have same unit, try having headset connected before plugging in your phone. That may work
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I'm bumping this up. With my previous phone (LG V10) I could select which device use to make phone calls, Android Auto device or a bluetooth headset (Plantronics). Now with a Oneplus 3T that is not possible anymore.
AA automatically rerouting "BT phone" to main AA device. That is really annoying.
If someone knows a workaround to this please give advice, thanks...

You have to have it enabled, in a nutshell the unit (Pioneer) declares that it has bluetooth capabilities and declares the bluetooth mac address when it initialize the connection, than Android Auto (trough Google Play Services which is a system app) will enable the bluetooth, set up a pairing if it doesn't exist and connect to it, so no matter what you do it will always connect to it, the only way to "avoid" this is:
a) Get another phone which connects to the Pioneer bluetooth, then connect the phone (haven't tried this, but probably will do the trick)
b) Alter the pioneer unit so it doesn't send the bluetooth mac and it doesn't declare the bluetooth service (almost impossible, you will need to replace the app on the unit)

Bluethooth Headset Issues

Love the Note 8 and everything about it except how it interacts with bluetooth headsets. I troubleshooted starting with a few bluetooth devices LG HBS1100, Samsung Flex, Motorola earpiece and car audio bluetooth. Here are a few things I encountered:
1. None of answer call buttons on the headsets will answer calls, even the Samsung Flex does not function properly
2. If you using an internet driven app such as Skype, WhatsApp etc, it is the worse. In addition to the buttons not working properly
A. The call waiting feature does not work when using internet audio or video it disconnects those call and allow the other call to come through sometimes unprompted.
B. If you are using Skype, WhatsApp etc, sometimes the call suddenly drops, battery still medium to full on the headsets.
C. A and B only happens with bluetooth headsets, call waiting function as design with car bluetooth calls and traditional BT earpieces
Im am posting this because a phone with this price tags should have overcome these discrepancies , the company should have come across this somehow during testing hmmm. It was almost a deal breaker but I like having a stylus, beautiful screen , phone design and the note taking features. I have friends that I communicate with overseas but I don't call them everyday or I will just use the speaker phone when Im talking to them.
I came from a 7 plus and all features on the BT headsets worked (Not enough to sway me back to Apple but its just confirmation.)
Has anyone experience these and what was the remedy if there was one Thanks..... or dead I get sent a lemon?

Never owned a Bluethooth. ?
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Have been using 2 bluetooth headsets and a Gear S2 watch to answer calls, have been able to make and take calls without a fuss, although I've always used the phone itself or the watch to answer a call. Never used call waiting. I use Viber as well to receive calls and never had a problem and no drops.

I had some odd issues when connected to my Car Blue tooth - I was using Hotspot on my phone to connect my Car's Android Navigation system - listening to I Heart Radio in the car - made a call - call connected - but several times during the call - Blue tooth suddenly disconnected for about 10 seconds and then reconnected.
This happened several times on different calls. I don't know if using WIFI while I was connected to blue tooth had anything to do with this - and I don't have the note any more (I returned it because it was OEM Locked ) should have an unlocked version next week and I will try again. But I saw your post and thought I would share.

My Senheiser MB pro 2 works fine with the Note 8. If there is any tests you want me to perform let me know.
Only thing I noticed today was that if I went out of range, the headset and phone would not auto reconnect when in range again , not sure if this is normal or not.

I have a Plantronic Edge. When I'm on Duo it starts the video call fine and after a few seconds it disconnects and goes to the speaker. So far it only does this in that app or at least that I can tell.

Issue with me is I don't recall how the behavior of my Bluetooth headset was on my other previous phone's, like I mentioned it disconnected when I was out of range then didn't reconnect automatically. Should it reconnect automatically?
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Bluetooth headset issues
Problem solved it was the phone. Verizon gave me a new one and this one works perfect. Thanks for your responses

Problem solved, was user error. Thanks for the feedback guys.
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Why isn't my LG HBS810 headset working properly with my Galaxy S10?

I have been a long time Windows 10 Mobile user. However, Microsoft is leaving that platform behind, so I had to move on. A week ago today I purchased my first Android phone, the Samsung Galaxy S10. Things seem to be going well, although there is a learning curve.
One thing which isn't working correctly is my LG HBS810 Bluetooth headset. With my old Windows 10 Mobile device I could easily answer calls, initiate calls, listen to music, send text messages, etc. With my S10 I cannot initiate a call, answer a call nor send a text message. If I initiate a call using my S10, it works fine, but that's not useful when I'm driving. I'd rather just press the button on the headset to answer a call. I've gone into the Settings | Bluetooth and tried to figure out what's wrong. As far as I can determine the Use For does have both Calls and Audio checked. I've checked the LG HBS810 Bluetooth headset's specs; it uses Bluetooth 4.1. My new S10 uses Bluetooth 5. And certainly the LG HBS810 Bluetooth headset is older, but it was still functional with my old Windows 10 Mobile device - I just concluded it would work with my S10.
Is there some other setting(s) somewhere else I should go to, to enable something I've left undone? Or is it the case that the LG HBS810 Bluetooth headset is just too old for my S10?