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OK, so I still have a blue angel, drooling over a kaiser, and my contract with O2 was up last week.
Thinking T-Mobile (for web n walk) but from what I hear the styling isnt as nice as the HTC one, plus my experiences with the O2 version of the XDA IIs ROMs left me a little cold.
So, ideally I want a non-branded Kaiser.
Well, if I take up a contract with T-Mobile, and take no phone, I am losing out, so I thought I would get a phone from them and sell it unused. I was looking and I can get a nokia 6300 for free with the tariff I want and it seems like I could get it unlocked easy enough or do it myself and flog it new, maybe get 100 quid for it? Any suggestions as to whether this would work or if I could shift an unlocked T-Mobile branded nokia 6300 on ebay for a decent rate. Also suggestions as to a better phone to use.
The other question is whether when I hooked the sim-free kaiser up to t-mobile, I would be able to get web n walk and all the other services set up OK. Don't want the T-Mobile front screen etc, just as long as everything works. I would imagine that cooking roms and stuff for it would be much easier as it was a vanilla phone, I am just worried about making the operator-specific settings...
Any other advice welcomed, ie another provider to go with who will subsidise me on the phone and who do an all-you-can-eat bandwidth package for a decent rate.
The only non-flexible bit is that it just *has* to be a kaiser
i did something similar a few years ago, look on tmob for all the phones you can get for free and the look on ebay's finished auctions search for the phone that seems to sell for the highest amount (it is generally the newest phones). You will still be out of pocket doing this rather than just waiting a few weeks on your current contract until tmob release the kaiser.
you will be able to get web'n'walk sms/mms settings fine, but probably won't be able to access their other services like mobile tv very easily
cool, nice to know it can work out.
I think I may have found a better phone to do it with - a sony k800i
There's a few going for over 300 quid at the mo on ebay.
I can get that free with the 15 quid a month contract, that's approaching the price of a kaiser
Not really worried about the mobile TV and stuff like that, am a geek, will do it myself - slingbox or mythtv something
OK, maybe I was smoking crack before I went to lunch or something, but there were multiple K800is on ebay listed at over 300 quid. I come back, check the link and it ended for 99.
WTF?? Maybe it was in euros or lira or something.
Im also going to use this cunning plan!
But I think your best options for a free phone to sell is either the Nokia N95 or the Blackberry Pearl.
Also, ensure T Mobile puts you on a 12 month contract as opposed to a 18 month one.
Agreed that the design of the MDA Vario III looks pants.
you can't get a free N95 on 12mo contract, and on an 18mo contract, you have to go up to the 45quid a mo contract to get it free - it's 250quid on the 15/mo contract I am going to get. The k800i or similar looks to be the phone that is going for the most on ebay that you can get for free with the 15/mo contract.
Am prolly gonna go with the 18mo contract as it is only actually 30quid more for 6 months more contract and you get more minutes / texts
Plus then I can get the web n walk for 7.50 and am still only paying a total of 22.50 a month
Okay. I talked T Mobile in throwing in a free N95, how much do you think it would sell for on ebay? I have no idea of the worth of these Nokias
If its unlocked, probably £250+
Don't get caught though
Here in the NL you could just go to any telecom shop and get any phone they hold in comination to any subscribtion with any provider. Of course these telecom shops are not affiliated with any particular network and usually the discount you get for the phone are approx 50 euros less then T-Mobile for example but it is worth 50 euros to have an unbranded and unlocket phone...(this what I am doing actually right now via a website)
Of course if you get Branded t-mobile device you get a free Micro SD card with it and the best is the guarantee for the duration of your contract. Plus here in the NL if you need to send it for a repair it goes much quicker then via HTC... T-Mobile send you prestamped & preaddressed envelope (a special one) which you use to send in your device. I haad to use this service on my Vario II when I got allignment issues and I had my phone back fixed after 4 business days. Alternatively you can bring your phone to a t-mobile shop and they even offer you a temporary replacement phone (a junky one) but then it takes longer as it has to go throught their main depot.
I am right now ordering a TyTn II via my resellers website with T-Mobile Flex 40 renewal + PITP the phone costs me including shipment 125 Euros...
darthbane2k said:
Okay. I talked T Mobile in throwing in a free N95, how much do you think it would sell for on ebay? I have no idea of the worth of these Nokias
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Well I see two on ebay currently bidding at £544 and £655 but I saw phones yesterday going for silly amounts and then went back to a more reasonable amount. Maybe bids are getting rejected or someone is playing around.
What tariff did you have to go on to get one chucked in for free??
Churchill said:
Here in the NL you could just go to any telecom shop and get any phone they hold in comination to any subscribtion with any provider. Of course these telecom shops are not affiliated with any particular network and usually the discount you get for the phone are approx 50 euros less then T-Mobile for example but it is worth 50 euros to have an unbranded and unlocket phone...(this what I am doing actually right now via a website)..
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You can do this in the UK, but it seems that T-mobile do not allow this unless the phone is branded or approved or something. Annoying as tmob is the only one doing a flat rate 3G bandwidth package for a reasonable amount (£7.50 pm or £1 a day) I am going to explore this avenue myself, but it seems to me that you can get way more subsidy by getting a whole phone and selling it.
T Mobile wont permit this in the UK because they like to attach branded phones to their contracts, these days banning services such as MSN messenger (which the Vario III will have disabled by default)
Is MSN etc blocked on web n walk now? I heard before that it was technically against the terms, but it was possible.
What about other stuff? I would ideally like to set up some kind of media centre at home and have it pull any mp3s / videos etc I like over the net.
What about VPN? Could I maybe VPN to my home and route everything inside a tunnel, thus denying tmob the ability to see what I am transferring?
I tried selling a phone a while ago on eBay. From past auctions I was expecting to sell my phone for £200 but at the last minute someone bid £350. The PayPal details said "Kate from Richmond" (an expensive area in London) had bought the phone. It was then that I received an email from someone in Nigeria asking me to send it to Lagos... they promised £50 extra for P&P but it was obviously a scam. They started sending through spoofed PayPal receipts claiming to have paid money into my account (even though my PayPal account said differently) and in the end they got quite aggressive and threatened to report me to eBay.
Just thought I'd warn you
OK, that makes sense.
LOL, one of those N95s just finished @ £1131 !
Normal bidding, then silly bids from "Bidder 1", "Bidder 2" etc...
Looks like the 419 business is getting too much heat so the Lads from Lagos have switched to a new tack.
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I tried selling a phone a while ago on eBay. From past auctions I was expecting to sell my phone for £200 but at the last minute someone bid £350. The PayPal details said "Kate from Richmond" (an expensive area in London) had bought the phone. It was then that I received an email from someone in Nigeria asking me to send it to Lagos... they promised £50 extra for P&P but it was obviously a scam. They started sending through spoofed PayPal receipts claiming to have paid money into my account (even though my PayPal account said differently) and in the end they got quite aggressive and threatened to report me to eBay.
Just thought I'd warn you
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I have dealt with these scammers a many a time on ebay. They totally ruin things for all.
evilc said:
Is MSN etc blocked on web n walk now? I heard before that it was technically against the terms, but it was possible.
What about other stuff? I would ideally like to set up some kind of media centre at home and have it pull any mp3s / videos etc I like over the net.
What about VPN? Could I maybe VPN to my home and route everything inside a tunnel, thus denying tmob the ability to see what I am transferring?
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Its not blocked. Its frowned upon. However T Mobile are now disabling use of it via firmware, hence one of the reasons why the Vario III is being delayed.
So guys, if I sell a new unopened T Mobile N95 for £250, you think its reasonable? Or could I push for more £££s? That Kaiser isnt cheap!
To clarify on Web n Walk...
On the normal (£7.50) tariff, only surfing and email is allowed.
On the Web n Walk Plus (£12.50) tariff, everything except VOIP is allowed.
I will probably go with the £7.50 one and if they moan, go on to the £12.50 one
So guys, if I sell a new unopened T Mobile N95 for £250, you think its reasonable? Or could I push for more £££s? That Kaiser isnt cheap!
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Dunno, might only get £200. Most of the ones over £200 seem to be tampered with...
What you might be better of doing is browsing the net and seeing if you can get 1 on a 12 month free contract with a cheepish phone and then the money u save on the contract put with selling the cheaper phone might get u somewhere...
Finally an official australian release for the phone with 3 in Australia. Outright price is AU$1099. Check link for details
http://www.three.com.au/cs/ContentS...2637&cid=1153120041618&MobileId=1190337429343
Interesting thing also is that it comes with Co-pilot Live and not TomTom
Picked up mine today....very happy with it.
It comes with Co-pilot live V7 which is great, also full Car kit, Mount and holder which is made in Germany...looks the same as the brodit....and included is also the car charger.
U guys get a lot of things in the box. Enjoy ur Phone
Yeah...I am really pleased with it. I had a Universal before and loved that but it was just to big, also I could never get it fully compatible with the 3 network. I was worried about going from a VGA screen to QVGA....but I have already got use to it.
Copilot Live 7.0 issues
Guinevere,
I've purchased the HTC TYTN II from Three and absolutely love it!
just wondering if you had problems with Copilot Live 7? It seems that this version does not let you add custom POI's to its database. Also, the Safety Camera option is greyed out.
This same problem occurs on the desktop version as well (Copilot Central).
Any thoughts? Thanks!
How's Copilot 7? I haven't seen/used it since 5. It used to work great =)
When it comes to bundled goodies, North America really sucks. Luckily I still have family in Hong Kong and getting them to buy stuff there for me works out nicely.
i thought that htc had a contract with tomtom.
1099 is that with a full version of copilot?
a little off topic here but i was browsing the 3 website and trying to figure out what you guys pay for your wireless, 35 cents for 30s so with the 49 dollar plan you get 70 mins? am i understanding that right?
$29 for 1GB wow do you guys just get the cheap 29 cap and use msn with a data plan?
Well apparently in Australia, HTC's contract is with Copilot.
The Copilot Live 7 is a full version, with a few limitations as I previously pointed out (you can't update safety cameras or POIs).
Copilot Live 7 has a very much improved interface from version 6. It looks very pretty and very snappy in performance. It seemed to have learned from TomTom in terms of it's ease of use and its overall GPS experience.
neotekz, answering your questions about the 3 Network, I think you've misread it. Those price plans are what they call "Caps", meaning once you reach a certain amount of spend, you don't pay anymore till a certain allowed limit. The $29 Cap plan gives you a $120 spend limit, and another extra $70 for calls between 3 customers. So in theory, you get $190 to spend a month, which is pretty good deal. The higher the cap, the more credit you get.
The Data plans are separate. They start from $3 a month...
Excellent Value
That is a great deal. Stores here are charging $1200 and delivery end of Nov.
Can you give details of the ROM? Thanx
I'm curious, where is everyone buying their TyTN IIs? I almost got burned on a purchase through eBay (decent rating, but had to file a claim to get my refund).
I looked at smart-mobile-gadgets.com which looks pretty legit. They even have the version with TomTom in stock, and a good price. However when I called the number it went to a generic 'the person @ is unavailable' voicemail box.
I know it's carried at the XDA store but there's no guarantees yet on versions (I want TomTom) and I need the phone sooner rather than later.
On top of that, I've looked into becomming a reseller but none of my distributors carry it either, and I'm getting a lot of runaround from HTC America.
Any suggestions or stories of good experiences of your purchase? Please share!
i bought my unit from supergps - but it was faulty so i sent it back - they said they couldnt reproduce the fault and sent it back to me - so ive now got back to them and have asked for my money back - we'll see what happens - i will probably be buying the next kaiser from someone else who has a bit of credibility to their name (i dunno, maybe expansys)
i bought mine from phonesource-usa.com's store front in las vegas. It had tomtom, uk plug, and no us adapter. no hassles. only caveat is the 14 day return policy. my unit has a bad pixel, but i didn't feel like fussing over it (assuming they would have exchanged it anyway).
i'd buy from them again.
the XDA-Store has a great Deal: http://store.xda-developers.com/HTCTyTNII-unlocked.html
Comes with TomTom and US adapter for the UK plug
I bought from MobilePlanet, myself. And got a discount for getting the AT&T plan through them (need to call their CS to get that).
I would ask a question, though - if you're in the US and don't already own maps for TomTom, you're likely to end up unable to use the taster version that's included. The maps you can select from are relatively small (the LA area is three maps, for example), and I haven't run into anyone who could purchase additional maps for the included version without popping for TomTom 6 anyway.
So if you're in the US, you might want to reduce the importance of TomTom on your purchase decision.
I'm looking for this phone (s730) at lower price.. i need number 2 devices.. who can make me better price? thank you!
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I'm looking for this phone (s730) at lower price.. i need number 2 devices.. who can make me better price? thank you!
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http://www.katshing.se/prod/prod.asp?aid=15307&ref=prisjakt 3 599 SEK = 545,34 $ = 374,82 €
@goolpone: It also depends on where do you come from: Africa, Asia, Usa, Europe? ;-)
geaerally? eBay my friend.
I'm italian, is there any body who want to sell his/her s730?.. i need 2 devices for $500/$520.. sameone?..
I found many people selling it through "second hand" stores in our country. Try to do the same with google focused on your country area with keywords / sell HTC s730 price / of course in your native language (sell, price).
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i need 2 devices for $500/$520..
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So you want someone to sell you 2 phones that retail for around $500-550 new for the price of one? The European model has only been out for a few months and AFAIK not picked up by networks yet.
I think you need to either set your price higher or wait for network upgrades to filter on the market. It's when people get 'free' or heavily subsidised phones they don't need that second-hand deals start becoming attractive.
But good luck!
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i need 2 devices for $500/$520.. sameone?..
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Sure hope thats each, unless someone got theirs for free no one would sell two for what they payed for one, and if it was a pre - prod unit...
but there are not carreer like vodafone, o2, cingular that sell it for a contract? and sameone that coul resell it? i know it's possible and yet done
Did you try my recommendation? I found the second hand phones (one month old = warranty) on 500 dollars level in CZ. I think that in your country you will find the same. There are many people disillusioned by RAM, ATI drivers, GPS lacks.
For a new phone such as this, you'd perhaps be better off trying on ebay
Do not forget that price on ebay is sometimes "penalized" by paying also the TAX and VAT to your custom.
My S730 is brandnew and im already so fed up with it.
Im going to sell it on ebay in the comming days.
I will also post the link to the auction on this forum for you to use.
It means that you are not satisfied by s730 and you will switch to different producer? As f.e. jocky.d? If yes, I have some favorites.
share your favorites then roomish....as I too am getting annoyed with my S730 and ebay is calling
It is so pitty - S730 could be so cool smartphone.
Well my favorites:
Asus P750 - although it has only 64MB - the free memory is about 20MB, the phone is handy sized
iPAQ 614c - very cheap, little bigger
I-mate 8502 - qwerty keyboard
All models are on the market only few days.
I've only had this thing since last week and I think I'm going to return it. The memory leak is horrible, not to mention there isn't enough of it to begin with. If I browse to a non-mobile url using IE, the browser closes since there isn't enough memory! The keyboard is slow and if I type fast, misses letters and I have to go back. A few times I have placed calls and they route through the speaker phone even though I haven't activated it and the entire phone locks up. Don't buy this phone, it sucks. I should have bought a Tytn II, at least then I would have working GPS.
I was after something a little smaller but with features.....
I liked the size of my old C600 but obviously you get more the bigger you get :s
and does anyone want to buy an S730?
4sale HTC S730
HTC S730 for sale.
12 month old contract is running out (I am changing the company I am working for)- fully working with 2GB SD Card
VB 220€
[email protected]
Was bought in October 2007. There is still 1 year garantie on it till October 2008.
Sold for 284,38. Thanks
12 months old? It must be preproduction model!?
My new company is forcing me to go to a Blackberry, so I'm selling my TyTN II. It comes with a 6GB & 1GB MicroSD, TomTom Navigator 6 (full boxed software), USB desktop cradle, all the original accesories and box.
It is in perfect condition with NO scratches at all. It is unlocked, has HardSPL, and it is currently running the UDK Vega v2 ROM with MSVoice Command and a slew of other apps.
Please PM me if you are interested we can discuss a reasonable price.
Thanks in advance.
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Bumped so everyone has a fair shot at it!!
The few questions keep coming up so.....
I figure the whole package is worth about $500 with everything that I am including, but feel free to make a reasonable offer.
Yes, this is really an HTC TyTN II. It is NOT a tilt!!
Everything included is a retail product with the original box.
I'll ship it via either FedEx or UPS from North Carolina.
Hope this helps.
Make and model # for MicroSD cards?
MicroSD
Both of the MicroSD are SanDisk. One is a 6GB and the other is a 1GB. I don't know the model numbers of the SD's off the top of my head, but I can find them on the invoices from when I bought them.
I was also asked for a list of everything you get, so here is the list as well:
HTC TyTN II with all the original accessories and box
6GB & 1GB Sandisk MicroSD card
TomTom Navigator 6 retail boxed software
USB desktop cradle
Generic sucction cup/ goose neck car kit and Cingular car charger
Black Suede vertical belt holster
Motorola travel charger
Too many bad seeds.......
I will gladly send any information on the phone or myslef that you would like. I have nothing to hide as there is nothing wrong with the phone or any of the accesories. I can even provide all the orignal purchase information on the phone.
One last bump before I put it on ebay.
Don't suppose you'd trade for a Nokia N80 and a bunch of extras? (i know, i saw blackberry above.. but who knows)
I like the offer.
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One last bump before I put it on ebay.
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Hey, i wanna buy your tytn II. 500$ dosen't seem to fit my budget. But if thats a fixed price, u will have to wait until august, otherwise make it 450$ since you're not providing any warranty.
I just PM'd you.
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Don't suppose you'd trade for a Nokia N80 and a bunch of extras? (i know, i saw blackberry above.. but who knows)
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Sorry, but I have to use a company blackberry so I'm going back to my old Razr for now.
Great deal.........
My phone is back up for sale as the previous deal fell apart due to the location of the buyer (shipping costs & export taxes).
I'm willing to take $450 for everything, and again will be happy to provide any requested evidence of functionality you'd like.
Thanks.
Bumped for the weekend.