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hi all,
I've just bought a 2nd-hand XDA iis and is battery is not so good.
So I intend to buy a new one.
But I'm wondering which bat is the best now.
I've gone to ebay and see that they have some types: original 1500 mAh, 2400mAh, "slim" 3200 mAh and "fat" 3600mAh.
I think the 3600mAh is the most suited for my xda.
Is there any better choice? Where could I buy it?
With the 3600mAh, how long would the xda would last if I use wifi IE with the lowest backlight?
Do any of you have any problems with it?
Could I use my old charger or Do I have to buy a bigger one?
Could I still use my usb-cable (not cradle) for charging my xda?
And is there any conflict with WM5? (I've just read in our forum that someone have problems with WM6).
Thank all of you so much.
son_volam002 said:
But I'm wondering which bat is the best now.
I've gone to ebay and see that they have some types: original 1500 mAh, 2400mAh, "slim" 3200 mAh and "fat" 3600mAh.
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I would say that primarly it would depend on if a 'fatter' and heavier phone bothers you.
Keep in mind that just about all the cases and various accessories that hold or clip on to the phone are designed for a phone that has the original battery, so a thicker battery may well make them unusable (cases are the primary example I would give).
How long it would last is impossible to say, as it depends on how you use the phone, what apps are on the phone, and so on. Also, 3rd party battery quality does vary. Which manufacture is the best, I can't say as I've never seen any place that reviews battery life.
I've never heard of any incompatibilities when talking about a particular version of win mobile and a certain capacity battery, and can't imagine that it's even possible.
Pick one and see what you get, then post the results here so the every one else can benefit from your experience.
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I would say that primarly it would depend on if a 'fatter' and heavier phone bothers you.
Keep in mind that just about all the cases and various accessories that hold or clip on to the phone are designed for a phone that has the original battery, so a thicker battery may well make them unusable (cases are the primary example I would give).
How long it would last is impossible to say, as it depends on how you use the phone, what apps are on the phone, and so on. Also, 3rd party battery quality does vary. Which manufacture is the best, I can't say as I've never seen any place that reviews battery life.
I've never heard of any incompatibilities when talking about a particular version of win mobile and a certain capacity battery, and can't imagine that it's even possible.
Pick one and see what you get, then post the results here so the every one else can benefit from your experience.
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At last, I've bought a fat 3600 battery and I think it's a good decision.
Now, I can use my fone for browse Internet in near 6 hour with wifi; or I could use it with 5 day stanby (how amazing).
some small problems are:
- the fone is thicker and heavier (no problem with me).
- My third party charger is a bit hotter.
- And the charging time is longer (ofcourse).
do not by batteries by ACME power. I have bought 2400mAh and feel no difference compare to standard old battery. Besides, I have troubles with bt. it turns off by its self with only this battery.
I bought a battery for my Htc Harrier about 4-5 months ago. Sorry i dont know the brand of it but its says its 3200mah and "replacement for XDAIII". The inside of the battery is kind of bloated out from the heat and looks a little dodgy but still works. Ive had a few problems with it where it powers off for no reason. When i turn it on again the battery charge looks fine.
Just a couple of days ago for the first time my phone just completely hard resetted and lost all my data. I again turned it on and the battery charge was fine. im blaming that on my battery.
I use my phone mainly for listening to music on my bluetooth headphones while im driving to school and for typing things out on my bluetooth keyboard at school. The standared battery that comes with the phone simply has not enough charge time to do all this.
With all its annoying problems i still use my battery. I just make sure i back up my most important things on my storage card. And charge it every night.
Soon im going to buy a HTC Blue Angel due to my countrys crappy plans that the Harrier comes with. Maybe i might buy the 3600mah while im at it.
So my advice is if you dont need the charge of a extended battery then stay away. Unless you are like me and need the extra battery power then beware of some stress ahead that it might give you.
Guys, I have heard a *rumor* that there will be a bigger capacity battery for Diamond, is this something *true*?
And I am wondering if the bettery life will be shortened by always connecting it to the PC. I actually connect my Diamond with notebook for most of the time I am in the office. Dont know if this will do harm to the battery.
Any comments are welcomed!
There is a bigger battery available as an extra I think - that's probably what you've heard about. It requires a different back part for the phone though.
The Touch Diamond will charge off any computer it is connected to, so that will be good for its battery and bad for the computers battery if you're running off that.
I believe (so I've heard) that the extended battery will be a 1350 mAh one sold with a new back to take it.
Seems confirmed by the HTC Europe Accessories site itself.....
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=168379
Yes there will be an optional larger cap battery. Don't know what size though. It does require a larger back cover (think you will get it with the battery).
If it is a 1350 then there's a possibility that it's the touch Pro's standard battery. But that's just speculation.
I'm hoping for feedback or observations on the nooks battery compartment. In particular, what are the possibilities of installing a larger capacity battery? The teardown pics have provided good info, but I was wondering if anyone who has opened their baby up has noted any....extra space. The current battery is okay but you can never have to much power! : )
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As with any device of this type, you'd definitely have some hefty constraints to work within.. Most notably, the thinness of the battery. It wouldn't be impossible to rig up a different battery, but you'd most likely not be able to fit one that lets you put the case back together properly.
In my opinion, it's probably not worth the effort. If you want some more battery life, get one of those rechargeable Duracell battery packs with micro-USB connector. They're like $35 at Wal Mart. I got one to use with my Atrix if I'm away from a charger for an extended period of time.
you could always try a solar powered recharger
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I'm hoping for feedback or observations on the nooks battery compartment. In particular, what are the possibilities of installing a larger capacity battery? The teardown pics have provided good info, but I was wondering if anyone who has opened their baby up has noted any....extra space. The current battery is okay but you can never have to much power! : )
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Seriously?? The NC gets 12 hours of runtime in full active use, and in standby it'll run almost forever (unless you have some widgets trying to stuff all the time even though wifi is off, HELLO WEATHERBUG)...
Do you really need more? More runtime, more WEIGHT?
When I got my 1st pc it had 512k of ram and a 10 Megabyte hardrive, freinds exclaimed: "damn you'll never use that much memory!" Well I did use all that memory and soon wished I had more. Hell yeah I'm serious about more power! What with running slingplayer, some serious web surfing, and a few rounds of heavy flash gaming, the Nooks current battery is..wanting. Sure the battery is fine for an email or two and maybe a few wikapedia searches, its more than most grandmas could ever want or dream of; but with current rom development running rampant the nooks abilities and uses are expanding. I'm not sure what is possible, I'm looking for observations pertaining to the interior dimensions of the nook. I remember seeing a reference (I don't think it was xda, it might of been along with one of the early tear down pick articles) where someone mentioned that there seemed to be enough interior space for some type of battery mod but there were no details. l will eventually pop it open and dig around myself but was hoping someone might have info to share.
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As with any device of this type, you'd definitely have some hefty constraints to work within.. Most notably, the thinness of the battery. It wouldn't be impossible to rig up a different battery, but you'd most likely not be able to fit one that lets you put the case back together properly.
In my opinion, it's probably not worth the effort. If you want some more battery life, get one of those rechargeable Duracell battery packs with micro-USB connector. They're like $35 at Wal Mart. I got one to use with my Atrix if I'm away from a charger for an extended period of time.
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Thanks for your reply. I 'm sure you will turn out to be right about the interior space constraints, its what my own gut feel contends. I did do some research on larger battery packs using tear down info and was surprised to find a wide range of battery capacities and volumetric formats for very modest prices. Given the nooks intended design, B&N would have sound economic reason not to pack the case with more battery than needed. We have a phone processor and larger screen, it is possible that the cases design is sized more for "look and feel" than mimimum volume. By the way how do you like the Atrix, dual core is very sexy, is it meeting your expectations?
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I believe the only thing thay kept them from adding more battery was weight. I think its current weight is at the heaviest it should be for an ereader. Im currently very pleased with my battery life. Combined standby/use time is well over 8 hours.
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Look at the photos here:
http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636?seq=31&tag=photo-frame;get-photo-roto
I guess it is "possible", but it will mean cutting out the metal backframe to add room for the battery. I don't mind modding things, but that might be a bit much should you ever want to hope for service...
please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the nook color put together in such a fasion that once it's taken apart there is no way of putting it back together. I seem to remember there being people who's bezel came lose, and were required to do a return.
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As with any device of this type, you'd definitely have some hefty constraints to work within.. Most notably, the thinness of the battery. It wouldn't be impossible to rig up a different battery, but you'd most likely not be able to fit one that lets you put the case back together properly.
In my opinion, it's probably not worth the effort. If you want some more battery life, get one of those rechargeable Duracell battery packs with micro-USB connector. They're like $35 at Wal Mart. I got one to use with my Atrix if I'm away from a charger for an extended period of time.
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Since they went out of their way to use a special uUSB connector for charging I wonder if an external battery pack would be able to supply enough power while the NC is on to, at least, supply the normal usage. Anyone know what the current draw is when the NC is on?
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Since they went out of their way to use a special uUSB connector for charging I wonder if an external battery pack would be able to supply enough power while the NC is on to, at least, supply the normal usage. Anyone know what the current draw is when the NC is on?
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My NC ranges between 8% and 10%/hr usage, so that's 320mAh to 400mAh on low brightness, wifi on and semi-active, and reasonable stuff going on (not heavy gaming).
azj said:
Since they went out of their way to use a special uUSB connector for charging I wonder if an external battery pack would be able to supply enough power while the NC is on to, at least, supply the normal usage. Anyone know what the current draw is when the NC is on?
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If the power source had a standard USB outlet, you could use the OE B&N cable. Most likely an external power source wouldn't have the 500 mA restriction on it's USB ports; one would have to verify of course.
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Look at the photos here:
http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636?seq=31&tag=photo-frame;get-photo-roto
I guess it is "possible", but it will mean cutting out the metal backframe to add room for the battery. I don't mind modding things, but that might be a bit much should you ever want to hope for service...
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Looking at the picks do you think the battery pack could be doubled up? I wouldn't rule out a some dremel work to get 2x the battery life, if the external case could remain sound. From the picks it seems there might be space where the back case curves out. It's difficult to tell the depth of the curve relative to internal components, or if any real usable space is there. I'm kinda hoping to hear from someone who has popped the case.
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this has been real hell finding information about whether this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powerocks-p...y_Chargers&hash=item3cc55ca8b0#ht_4645wt_1163 is compatible with my Motorola defy+ (note custom roms, Switching from time to time, Currently on WIUI ICS) and other information such as how long does it last and etc.
has anybody used this?
is it worth the money and how does it translate to battery % on my defy+.
any other feedback?
and maybe other recommendations (with that price region)
and is there a thing like this that uses AA batteries, if so, how many will it take to charge my Defy+
thanks ahead
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what's the proper name for that thingy? because this thing has wayyyy too many names,
power bank, external battery, portable charger, portable battery, extra battery. and many many many more!!! this is why it's complete hell finding information.
what's the real and most proper name for it?
Just a single word 'AVOID'
i don't usually like to be disrespectful, but.
you sir, have convinced me with your long list of arguments and good points of reason to support your advice.
could you please explain, why?
Ok. Here it goes.
I have used these chargers long back, I think around a year back. It barely charges 15% of your mobile battery (I was using a Samsung Galaxy Apollo at that time which had a 1500mah battery) with a single AA cell which I think is totally not worth.
I hope this is enough for you to get a fair idea
so, you're saying that the Portable chargers that use AA batteries are bad, or are you saying all these portable chargers are bad and charge too little?
if you're saying that all the portable chargers are bad and charge too little, then i would have to say that it depends on how much mAh the charger can hold.
say i get the 2600 mAh charger to charge my Defy+ (think around 1700 mAh) when it's completely out, i think that i will charge fully at least once (say around 1000 mAh at MOST! is lost because of the charging procedure)
i'm only talking about the AA battery based chargers. I don't have any idea about other powerpacks as I've never used it.
1 AA battery for 225 mAh!?!?!?!? that's awesome!!! would be great for camping trips, you get like 12 AA batteries (or more, depends on how long you plan to be away from charging your phone normally) and you can even play in the evening or even watch porn if you got Data signal!
i'm still probably going for the normal one, and maybe i'll get an extra charger that uses AA batteries in-case i go camping somewhere.
can people please give feedback on whether it's good enough? why are there only 2 posters?
I think that it works just seen a duracell one in a store near me wich holds 4 AA batts, i think on buying it and fillit with some 4 NiMh AA acumulators rated at 2700 mAh each, just think about it thats 10800 mAh in a portable charge, that will charge my Defy battery at least 5 times even with an extra burning that the charge does.
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I think that it works just seen a duracell one in a store near me wich holds 4 AA batts, i think on buying it and fillit with some 4 NiMh AA acumulators rated at 2700 mAh each, just think about it thats 10800 mAh in a portable charge, that will charge my Defy battery at least 5 times even with an extra burning that the charge does.
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isn't there a case of voltage involved? (idk, i'm a complete noob in this)
and i need something smaller, something as small as the charger i posted.
i'm just curios to know if it works or not and any other feedback about it.
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NiMHs are 1,2V which means, 2700mAh hold 2700mAh * 1,2V= 3,24 Wh which is the same as 11,664 kJ
The Defy battery holds 1500mah at 3,7V --> 5,5 Wh = 19,98 kJ
Taking efficiency in count you might be able to load your Defy with two fully charged NiMHs once, but i`d rather expect that two are not enough.
As for the that eBay-offer: The voltage is given as 5,1V. With 2600mAh that would mean 13,2 Wh. But i rather believe they are stating the capacity at 3,7V for marketing reasons. That would mean 9,62 Wh. That would allow you to recharge about one and a half time.
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So someones after advice on portable power when away from the mains?
Ive been using a New trent imp1000 to keep things going, its a li-ion rechargable powerpack with a capacity of 11000mah and it keeps my Defy going for 4 days.
I also have a total of three batterys for my defy, and a universal li-ion external charger, called a cam caddy, although its designed to charge camera batterys from a 5 volt supply it also quite happily charges up the battery for my defy as well.
So for extreme use i can have a battery in use in my phon, plus a spare with me, and back at base ( or just overnight) a battery on charge in the cam caddy.
If im in an area with access to mains i will take the imp1000 and its charger to top up where and when i can.
I also have a universal USB charger with swapable plugs that fit all major power outlets worldwide.
And to top it all off a USB AA battery charger that will ( slowly) charge up 4 AA batterys form a solar panel, or from a USB input ( faster) , or output 5V through the USB out put port.
This little set up has kept me going for 14 days with no access to mains power ( except for a few bits here and there - 20 minutes at a bus station/railway station and so on) , keeping my phone going (defy) a high powered AA cree LED torch, a camera ( via spare battery+cam caaddy) and an mp3 player. the trick is careful battery management - on the defy turn off everything when not in use, except the ability to receive calls and number your batterys for ID, and the same for cameras etc etc.
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So someones after advice on portable power when away from the mains?
Ive been using a New trent imp1000 to keep things going, its a li-ion rechargable powerpack with a capacity of 11000mah and it keeps my Defy going for 4 days.
I also have a total of three batterys for my defy, and a universal li-ion external charger, called a cam caddy, although its designed to charge camera batterys from a 5 volt supply it also quite happily charges up the battery for my defy as well.
So for extreme use i can have a battery in use in my phon, plus a spare with me, and back at base ( or just overnight) a battery on charge in the cam caddy.
If im in an area with access to mains i will take the imp1000 and its charger to top up where and when i can.
I also have a universal USB charger with swapable plugs that fit all major power outlets worldwide.
And to top it all off a USB AA battery charger that will ( slowly) charge up 4 AA batterys form a solar panel, or from a USB input ( faster) , or output 5V through the USB out put port.
This little set up has kept me going for 14 days with no access to mains power ( except for a few bits here and there - 20 minutes at a bus station/railway station and so on) , keeping my phone going (defy) a high powered AA cree LED torch, a camera ( via spare battery+cam caaddy) and an mp3 player. the trick is careful battery management - on the defy turn off everything when not in use, except the ability to receive calls and number your batterys for ID, and the same for cameras etc etc.
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i think 11000 mAh is a little too much for me, it may be good for camping trips and etc, but i don't think i'm gonna buy something that (probably) big and (probably) expensive. most of the use of the external charger will be when i'm out with friends for a long time, or say after school i spontaneously decide to go out with friends before getting home (unfortunately a 1 hour drive from friends city to mine) so i need an a portable charger so i won't get bored on the way back, my battery lasts a school day, if i go somewhere that is not home after school, it won't last.
about the extra batteries, are those original from motorola? if not, are they as good as the original? are they worth getting?
The batterys are official motorla ones, as i b ought a cheap un official one and that had issues ( wouldnt show the charge level on the defy )
The battery pack is a "new trent imp1000" which costs £30 from amazon.
I also have a dock for the defy in which my phone usualy sits, at the back of this dock is a slot for an extra battery, left overnight this will charge both my Defy ( with battery inside) and the extra battery in the slot, this is plugged into a dektop pc where some of the USB sockets are still powered up ( giving out 5v) even when the desktpop p.c is off
supdealer offers nice portable power bank
as portable external battery/power bank/portable charger, An ebay seller called supdealer sells a nice one. You can have a look.
It may help you. :laugh:
I have that new Trent battery, its perfect almost same size as defy.
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Guys,
If you really want true power on the go, buy a YOOBAO power pack, the 11200 mAh one.
It is really a beast and is really charging a defy several times before going empty.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Yoobao-...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item3377c5ccd4
One thing to the initial question...
Confidential said:
this has been real hell finding information about whether this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powerocks-p...y_Chargers&hash=item3cc55ca8b0#ht_4645wt_1163 is compatible with my Motorola defy+
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Yes, all iPhone compatible USB-Chargers are compatible to our Defy and other new mobiles.
Why? EN_62684: Common External Power Supply (EPS)
Why would I use Li-ion instead of AA Cells (NiCd,NiMH or NiZn)?
Higher Energy Density!
Another benefit of Li-ion is the discharging charakteristika (sorry for german captions).
Hey guys,
I'm looking for an aftermarket battery that is SAFE (no dodgy stuff from, i dunno, china?) and gives me longer use than the stock battery. Although the stock battery usually gets me past a day, it can easily drop very quickly after some use.
I was hoping got the GOLD 2680mAh but I can't seem to find it anywhere What other options do I have? Is the 2500mAh one safe? Mugen makes a 2300mAh one but I don't think it's a big enough upgrade to make it worth it.
Also, I don't really want one that requires you to have a new back cover...
someth1ng said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking for an aftermarket battery that is SAFE (no dodgy stuff from, i dunno, china?) and gives me longer use than the stock battery. Although the stock battery usually gets me past a day, it can easily drop very quickly after some use.
I was hoping got the GOLD 2680mAh but I can't seem to find it anywhere What other options do I have? Is the 2500mAh one safe? Mugen makes a 2300mAh one but I don't think it's a big enough upgrade to make it worth it.
Also, I don't really want one that requires you to have a new back cover...
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Wrong thread mate. We have a dedicated thread about Optimus 4X Accessories
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1652
You will find feedback about batteries too.
in 99% of all cases, it does not make any sense to buy a "bigger" battery...
They don't last longer than stock battery.
The only ting which is usefull, are the big batterys where you need a bigger cover
http://www.amazon.de/Akku-Li-Ion-f%C3%BCr-Optimus-ScreenCleaner/dp/B00A145KIM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1359901509&sr=8-3
For example
mabyits wiser to buy one of these external battery pacs and always carry that with a cable.
these 5600 mah packs are dirt cheap (less the 8 euro on ebay)
just stick it inthere midway trough the day and it will charge some and at night just put both on a charger
and theres also 20.000 mah packs for barely 20 euro that charge with either 1 amp or 2.1 amp so thats a really fast way to put some juice in your phone.
you can charge your phone atleast 8 times with that and thats a stunning 32 hours active USE time on a pack that you can carry with you (10x6x2.5cm)
Yep, can't agree more. I use Powerbank myself, packed with 6600 mAh extra juice. Though not too convenient, it's quite handy and does magic in extending your phone usage hours
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