Right ... I think I'd better "pull the plug" as they say on this ROM.
There are currently too many problems apparent, which can not be directly fixed.
The problems unfortunately run deep.
Known Issues:
Pictures & Videos Fails to Start
IE can lockup (randomly) on Images
Odd ActiveSync Behaviour & non-communications
Phone Settings Page failures
Button Page (strangely?) still present
Backlight Level/Flickering
Duplicate Items (bad decision on my part)
BT Profile not appearing in Startup (Profile Bug actually)
Power Manager Bug
Battery Polling/Timing & Reporting
UPX'd Applications may be causing failures
Eval Calc continually reports "Error"
Repllog fills the event reporting
These problems most likely stem from various sources:
Optimization features to improve speed (Data issues / PIM corruption)
Interaction of AKU2 elements with AKU0 (repllog.exe Errors / ActiveSync)
UPX compressed applications (Random 'odd' behaviour)
Filesystem Respecification (standard Directories instead of PermDirs)
Possible stability issues in vBar (Phone Application Restarting)
GWES subsystem / IE extensions (Images, Pictures & Video Failure)
Application resource allocation failures (Eval Calc Failing, & other failing installs)
I will be addressing these issues over the weekend. There WILL be a new ROM at the end of this time (called v1.5) which will be either one of two possible incarnations:
1). Returning to a prior Alpha Test version which proved VERY stable, but contained a lot less of the AKU2 elements from Himalaya (incl. updated BT for reliability *sigh*)
2). Moving even MORE of the Himalaya AKU2 ROM into the current Beta (and correcting the other issues) so as to have as few as possible AKU0 elements coexisting.
Until that time I STRONGLY recommend that everyone not use this ROM - except for further BETA testing and/or bug reporting and/or suggestions for improvement (which would be VERY appreciated!)
TuMa v1.5 WILL still have the SAME feature-set, and SAME feature-rich look, but this will also be working on ENABLING CABs, instead of being a complete 'out of the box' ROM.
Wherever possible everything will still be entirely contained in the ROM to save as much Storage Space as possible and be feature complete, requiring only shortcuts, or registry entries to enable the full 'power'.
Otherwise, in it's "AU NATURELLE" state, the v1.5 ROM will functionally operate as a 'base only' ROM - which can then be used to build from.
My sincere apologies for the troubles you've encountered so far ... however it has been INVALUABLE with all the feedback, and I will be addressing as many of the issues found as quickly as possible.
I'd gotten so close ... the "race" was almost won ... but, it just 'blew up' in the final 50 meters.
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TuMa v1.4 has been released now for public BETA testing.
As with any BETA, backup your important data ... only time will tell how well everything has been edited/fixed/corrected in this ROM.
NOTE: There could still be some issues with this ROM, in that the performance has been increased to 'appease' those craving it, and also the feature set of the ROM has been updated to encompass everything requested.
There have been FAR too many changes, and FAR too many updates from v1.3 to even begin describing it. The ROM is now composed of 60% Wizard (Core), 20% Himalaya AKU2 (Updates), 10% Blue Angel (Drivers), and features taken from 5% Jasjar, 3% of Atom, 1% Acer, and 1% Custom Hex Edited Modules. 8)
Battery life should be much improved, speed should be about equal to Ivan's, bugs should be squashed.
Known BIG issues:
1). Sim Toolkit doesn't seem to work 100% for me - I get the menus up, but can't access all the data.
2). Bluetooth disconnect is still in this ROM.
3). Pictures & Videos Application is not working (fix being researched).
Otherwise ... let me know if you find anything!
Needless to say it's been a laborious process to get this done. So rather than bore you with words - here are some pictures instead ...
Download from:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Shipped_Extracted_Updates/TuMa 1.4/
Remember ANY and ALL CABs which are in the EXTROM Folder are OPTIONAL to install. If you don't want that feature (MMS, Java Midlets, Camera, Intellipad Languages) ... then don't install it!
Use the SetOperator.bat file to set your operator for the ROM approproately.
NOTE: SX66 Users - use the SetOperatorSX66.bat file, and DO NOT install the Camera CAB.
EDIT MDAIIIUSer 02/05/06
Changed the ftp link
TuMa Boot Logos
Since I love my Blue Angel sooooo much. I've made a few custom Boot Logos for you to use.
Download from:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/BlueAngel/WM5_TuMa/TuMa_Logos.rar
You can obviously also make your own one now ... just replace BootLogo.bmp in the /Windows directory with your own 8-Bit bitmap. Make sure that the file is the same size as the one there - then you know you have the right format. 8)
*** EDIT ***
Since I've had a couple of requests for the original artwork behind these Boot Screens, I've now prepared the PhotoShop Original Artwork file for ALL of these Logos. You can now readily make your own "Blue Angel" Logo, with or without the background, or using a solid colour, or just overlaying the Windows Mobile 5.0 elements overtop. I leave it entirely up to you! It's your BootLogo after all. 8)
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/BlueAngel/WM5_TuMa/TuMa_Blue_Angels.rar
Enjoy!
And last but not least ...
Some Games which can while away the time ...
Download from:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/BlueAngel/WM5_TuMa/TuMa_Games.rar
Fun, fun, fun!
Gr8 work Tuma
Good
Flashing right now...
Will be back later with some news.
Thanks for all the amazing work!!
Nice Release Tuatara!
Going to try it on the weekend
Thanks
Great work Tuatara, thanks will be flashing tonight. And extra thanks for the Xmen Angel logo, that will be my logo from now on. Mutants Rule!
great job!
got this version on my sx66. No major issues.
quick question: is there a way someone can extract the "shutdown" plugin for today. My friend with a sprint 6700 wants it.
AGAIN, Great job ! and I wish I had half the brains you did so I could contribute some coding/hack. At least I will be able to help report any issues in this Beta, to make the release version a better experience for all...
i have instaled to this version, and for now now issues. to report (exept the bt )
thanks for this good work tuatara. :mrgreen:
OK, I've messed around with this new rom for a bit, and I've actually gotta say I prefer Tuma 1.3. The speed increase isn't significant enough to be worth adding more problems I outline below, without actually correcting any of the problems that I disliked in 1.3.
Improvements:
1) Single, fully functional WLAN Manager is nice.
2) I like the category based Program list, but your choice in some instances is well, strange. (ex. Windows Media in Office folder)
New Problems:
1) Phone settings was missing the first page (ring tone/style selection) on my first boot. Seems to be there now though. Odd.
2) Pictures & Videos (Renamed...) does not work at all. Definately a big piss off for me.
3) Internet explorer just locked up my PPC. I used it alot in 1.3, and I never experienced that. I'll see if I can reproduce it.
Dislikes:
1) Renamed Programs. I don't really like that you chose to rename the shortcuts to many Microsoft Programs. Ex: Pictures & Videos to Picture Viewer, File Explorer to Windows Explorer. Since every copy of WM5 has all these programs named the same since they are core programs, I don't think you should be renaming the shortcuts.
2) Some hefty programs. I liked that in Tuma 1.3 there was a nice balance between what was already there, and how much was left up to user discretion. By adding large programs with many alternatives such as Total Commander and vBar, I can't help feel you've crossed the line.
Further updates will come as I keep testing. Thanks for working so hard on this.
Going to flash tomorrow...
Thanks for all the precious work so far Tuatara!
Going to flash tomorrow...
Thanks for all the precious work so far Tuatara!
I am going to test this ROM. I am still wondering whether this one is better than Ivan's. Anyone who has any ideas please let me know, for the reason that I just want to bring my Blue Angel into full play.
good job!!!
flashing it right now
Thanks,I do in now
hmm.. cant get it to ActiveSync
Hiya..
Had major problems getting it to sync
Have reinstalled the Activesync twice now.. It connects (at bloody last! 3 hours and multiple soft resets later!) , goes through the new device blah blah, and then just sits at the Activesync page! Says it is connected, with LOADS of datat flowing between the device and A/S.. bot not synchronizing!
Any ideas?
Nowt has changed since TuMa 1.3 or Ivan... I had both working!
WOW.. damn.. I love this Forum...
Make a post, and low and behold the little fairies jump out of the screen, and waving their wands and throwing fairy dust on my PPC, it does a little beep and starts working!!!
WTF! Problem solved... Ask the fairies what they did if you can catch them!
TheLastOne said:
OK, I've messed around with this new rom for a bit, and I've actually gotta say I prefer Tuma 1.3. The speed increase isn't significant enough to be worth adding more problems I outline below, without actually correcting any of the problems that I disliked in 1.3.
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Ok ... there were a few problems in v1.3 which are definately fixed in v1.4. The speed should be noticable, but isn't the biggest 'draw-card'. Stability, and integration should be ... but as always ... can't please everyone.
Improvements:
1) Single, fully functional WLAN Manager is nice.
2) I like the category based Program list, but your choice in some instances is well, strange. (ex. Windows Media in Office folder)
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1). That was a bit of work ... required some 'artwork', 'hex-editor' and 'resource hacker' customization to achieve.
2). So, is "Windows Media Player" a "Tool" then? I couldn't decide either. Well ... in the end I wasn't quite sure 'where' to put that one ... you can move them easily y'know. Besides ... it is delibrately put into the main start menu as "Media Player" so you have direct access to it from there, but also have access through the Programs Menu.
New Problems:
1) Phone settings was missing the first page (ring tone/style selection) on my first boot. Seems to be there now though. Odd.
2) Pictures & Videos (Renamed...) does not work at all. Definately a big piss off for me.
3) Internet explorer just locked up my PPC. I used it alot in 1.3, and I never experienced that. I'll see if I can reproduce it.
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1). Hmmm ... can't say I've ever seen that. Works fine on my device - so maybe something subtle is happening in the Radio Layer. Most of the RIL core is now from the Himalaya AKU2.
2). Now that's a BUG which MUST BE FIXED. Damn. It was working perfectly all the previous times I have tested and worked with it. I must have done something registry-wise which is now preventing load on my last build. I will find a fix/patch for this and post it as a CAB.
3). I've been using IE over WiFi for quite a lot of surfing - not one lockup to date - incl. having BT Stereo Wireless Headset playing (albeit a bit stutteringly) in the background. I will test further when I have more time.
So ... I'll add my own one ...
4). BT Wireless Stereo Profile has some (irritating) stuttering, but otherwise works quite reliably. Need to look at performance requirements and/or wave audio driver.
Dislikes:
1) Renamed Programs. I don't really like that you chose to rename the shortcuts to many Microsoft Programs. Ex: Pictures & Videos to Picture Viewer, File Explorer to Windows Explorer. Since every copy of WM5 has all these programs named the same since they are core programs, I don't think you should be renaming the shortcuts.
2) Some hefty programs. I liked that in Tuma 1.3 there was a nice balance between what was already there, and how much was left up to user discretion. By adding large programs with many alternatives such as Total Commander and vBar, I can't help feel you've crossed the line.
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1). Well, you will notice that there are TWO copies of each of the applications you mention. FIRST in the Start Menu (for direct access - named as normal), and a SECOND time in the Programs folder. In order to NOT have naming conflicts for two shortcuts (if moved), they MUST be named differently. This is an unfortunate side-effect of how the Menu Manager works. You could just delete the copy you don't want. That's what Total Commander is for.
2). Again ... both of those apps can be readily 'hidden' if you wish. vBar can be quickly disabled (just turn it off in it's control panel), and similarly the icon for Total Commander can be removed. It costs NOTHING to have them in the ROM - all of your storage space is still 100% free for you to use however you wish, for whatever you wish.
Further updates will come as I keep testing. Thanks for working so hard on this.
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No worries ... as said - the ROM is aimed at an audience to work "out of the box", not necessarily for the "power hacker" who needs to customize every last element.
But having said that - everything is READILY possible to disable in the ROM, either through checkboxes, or simply by removing shortcuts. Nothing is so 'entrenched' as to be necessary, and nothing is so necessary as to not be 'disabled' easily.
Anyways ... as before, this is BETA, and I welcome constructive feedback (and criticisms) such as this! I want to resolve the last few 'annoying' bugs and try to get to a robust and stable (feature-rich) ROM.
So ... speak your thoughts ... good / bad / ugly ... let me know!
great!
@Tuatara
Great job, Im using it for a couple of hours and until now everything is going very good.
I really like the idea of a custom build, with shortcuts names changed, lots of small softwares installed and a well tweaked registry.
I need to sleep a little. I will be using my device tomorrow as usual and will report in the end of the day.
Thanks again for the hard work :!: :!: :!:
Re: WOW.. damn.. I love this Forum...
Juggles said:
Make a post, and low and behold the little fairies jump out of the screen, and waving their wands and throwing fairy dust on my PPC, it does a little beep and starts working!!!
WTF! Problem solved... Ask the fairies what they did if you can catch them!
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Hmmm ... this is a bit ODD. There shouldn't be any 'fairies' dancing around in the OS. Maybe a few "Angels" ... but no "Fairies".
Please let me know if you're experiencing any 'odd' behaviour. Such as 'Phone Panels' not appearing, 'Active Sync' not working immediately, 'WiFi' issues, or otherwise. Maybe a 'Gremlin' has snuck into my 'Frankenstein' ROM Monster.
Related
Ok everyone, the next "incantation" of the TuMa ROM is now available!
This ROM is a radical expansion and departure from mamaich's original. I've replaced a number of elements which were OMAP code, with XScale code - taken from the Himalaya, Jasjar, and various ROMs I have had access to. I've also upgraded some applications, and put duplicates of different versions in as well (to determine which is better), and have added other various features, tools, and widgets.
The ROM requires a fair amount of testing now, and the only way I believe this can be done would be to let "everyone" at it and see how it goes. There is a LOT of untested functionality in the ROM, as I don't have access to a number of devices or configurations. So, feedback is definately needed!
There have been a LOT of changes in this ROM, and because of this I'd like to term this ROM as being an ALPHA version. If you have the will and the way, give it a go. I'm finding the performance even better (so far) - but it's only been an hour of testing, and in truth ... I've only managed to test very little of it. 8)
Considerations for this ROM:
All core elements of WM5 are now in the ROM. This includes the previously removed Pocket Powerpoint, Excel, and other files. So, all of the CAB files which I've created specifically for this ROM can be OPTIONALLY installed!
There are now 3 CABs by default in the EXTROM folder:
1). Midlet Manager
2). Arcsoft MMS Composer
3). IA Camera
This means that the ROM should be directly usable in devices without a Camera. If you have such a device, then make sure that you don't install the CAB file (just cancel it)!
If you do have a Camera, you MUST install the Camera AFTER the MMS Installation, as I've chained the two installations together. MMS will install without Camera, and then the Camera CAB will enable the Camera in MMS Composer.
One thing - localization is set to "New Zealand" (since that's where I am), so some of you will need to change this back to your region. (Sorry - it's my ROM after all )
The ROM is in /Uploads/Blue Angel/wm5_test/WM5 BA - TuMa v1.1.zip
Contents: nk.nbf, and the EXTROM folder with CAB files - so, update the operator and Flash away ...
Explore the features, test all of the elements, and let me know if everything is working properly.
All the best of luck with it!
*** D-OH! First Bug ... The "Contacts" SoftKey is wrong ... just open up the SoftKey Control Panel Applet and reset it ... works fine then. Sorry Guys. :-(
Is it possible to put a direct link to the file? I can't really find it...
I get a checksum error using BAUpgrade; MaUpgradeUt doesnt show any rom info. This is what i have always used to fix my roms previously
xda3nbftool -x nk.nbf nk.nba 0x20040521
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -so O2___001 -sl WWE nk.nba
xda3nbftool -c -u NK.nba
xda3nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nbf 0x20040521
Anything wrong here?
Edit: I was in bootloader mode
Hello efjay, could you help me here? I can't really find the file to download
raymondu999 are you using an FTP client? Thats probably the best way to get it.
Edit: try this link ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/WM5 BA - TuMa v1.1.zip
No actually, I'm only going the ftp://xd[email protected] whatever thing...
Does it work for you? Or is it my computer that's acting funny and not letting me download it?
Actually, nevermind, efjay, it's working for me now. THANKS A LOT!!!! I owe you one!
No problem, pls post if you are able to flash ok. I seem to be stuck.
No problem, willdo. However, don't expect anything too soon... My internet is slow as hell, so I'll be downloading for a looooooooooooong time....
Hi All
First post so please be gentle LOL
Flashed rom ok but have doubled up on programs (exel x2 word x2 etc)? tried reflashing /hard reseting but with no luck this rom is faster than any other i have tried and some nice additions too...
will let ya all know how i get on
any ideas on the double programs would be most greatful
cheers for now
Nic
Oh thanks for all your time and work on these roms u guys are somthing else
nks said:
Flashed rom ok but have doubled up on programs (exel x2 word x2 etc)? tried reflashing /hard reseting but with no luck this rom is faster than any other i have tried and some nice additions too...
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Hmmm ... I had this as well when I was building this ROM myself. I think it's because some folders have been specified as "PermDir()", and the shortcuts are being kept.
For anyone experiencing the same problem try this:
(NOTE: This will require a HARD RESET & REBUILD)
1). Run "File Explorer" and goto "My Device"
2). Tap and Hold "My Documents", then select "Delete" and delete everything
3). Tap and Hold "Program Files", then select "Delete" and delete everything
4). goto "Windows"
5). Tap and Hold "Start Menu", then select "Delete" and delete everything
6). Tap and Hold "Startup", then select "Delete" and delete everything
Then HARD RESET your device, select "Format Storage", and "Clear Registry", and the duplicates should be gone.
I think I may have messed something up in the formatting specifications for the Flash Storage device ... i.e. it checks the existing format, and if it's still ok, it keeps all permament items around. This is probably BUG #2. *sigh*
Let me know how you get on ...
nks said:
Oh thanks for all your time and work on these roms u guys are somthing else
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Just hoping that this will solve my issues with the device, and be useful for other people too. 8)
Cheers Tuatara
Followed steps 1-6 and it looks ok now :lol: will do some more testing tomorrow with gps,phone,sms etc and let you know...
nearly 3am here in uk so time for bed
thanks again
Nic
Tuatara said:
For anyone experiencing the same problem try this:
(NOTE: This will require a HARD RESET & REBUILD)
1). Run "File Explorer" and goto "My Device"
2). Tap and Hold "My Documents", then select "Delete" and delete everything
3). Tap and Hold "Program Files", then select "Delete" and delete everything
4). goto "Windows"
5). Tap and Hold "Start Menu", then select "Delete" and delete everything
6). Tap and Hold "Startup", then select "Delete" and delete everything
Then HARD RESET your device, select "Format Storage", and "Clear Registry", and the duplicates should be gone.
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Installed the upgrade, did note the above problem. In step 2) and 5) files exist that prohibit the folder deletion, like PIE in step 5. Not sure why I get a different response than nks. Ended up deleting the duplicate entries in the Start Menu.
This version is much faster, great work.
rschell said:
1) Noticed the Double menu items, can delete some directories.
2) Noticed that the activesync connection does not remain connected. I have to disconnect and reconnect
3) Sound issues with WM Player playing off a SD card remain until the buffer is full (about 1 min into the song)
Will keeping probing for other issues.
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Thanks heaps for the feedback!
Right ... I think my reworking of the Flash Storage specification - while improving the performance, has had a few other 'odd' side effects. Probably the SD Card buffering/paging has been affected, and similarly resulting in the double menu items.
As for the ActiveSync disconnect issue - I did have that happen to me just now as well. Very strange though, I simply opened another "explorer" window, and everything came back immediately. Maybe I've changed the timeouts/timing for the usb driver too much.
One really BIG question though - since you're using a SX66, did everything work flawlessly for you with respect to the NON-Camera installation (i.e. just cancelling the CAB install?). Is MMS fully operational and everything else working?
I'll try to have a look into this sometime (very late) tonight after I get my "real" work done now.
Oh ... and on the "bad news" front ... I'm going to be away again for another 2 weeks now - this time in Germany, going to be exhibiting at Cebit - leaving Sunday. *sigh* a bit last minute and unexpected all this.
Hopefully though, I'll have time enough to do some patches or an upgrade to the ROM for anything which is found before that time. So keep testing and letting me know!
Hello Mr. T Great work by the way !!! it really works great, much faster and responsive!! you will be a saint for all us geeks !!!
I have my first bug to report! in hopes of furthering the development.
there is no support (at least for me) for MIDI as ring tone, it does not play. also I get the following error when trying to play in WM "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
well just happy to report! cheers!!
Great Work!!
another thing, I really believe that the problem with WM5 for BA is the phone side of the ROM I really think that there is an incompatibility issue here. because when I use the device with Radio off, it works perfect! on every issue.
Tuatara said:
One really BIG question though - since you're using a SX66, did everything work flawlessly for you with respect to the NON-Camera installation (i.e. just cancelling the CAB install?). Is MMS fully operational and everything else working?
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I deleted the Camera CAB and modified the cfg.txt file before copying the files to the EXTROM directory and flashing, same effect as cancelling the CAB install. It installed without error. I tried installing the camera cab on an earlier version with no adverse effects on the SX66, but I prefer not to have it around in the PDA. I like the option to pick and choose what to install.
I'm not a user of MMS right now, so I can't tell there. Pocket MSN works. The activesync connection dropping out does have something to do internet access, connection stays active until an attempt to connect to the internet. MSN and FTP don't appear to use the activesync connection when it is available.
Wifi works, but I can't thru the portal at the hotel I'm at tonight, so I can't do a full test. Don't have my bluetooth adapter with me to check it.
Removed the screen rotate tool from the tray, I prefer the special button 9 on the keyboard for that function.
SysCrasher13 said:
I have my first bug to report! in hopes of furthering the development.
there is no support (at least for me) for MIDI as ring tone, it does not play. also I get the following error when trying to play in WM "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
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Move the desired ringtone to the \windows\rings folder and it should work, it does for me.
rschell said:
Tuatara said:
... SX66 ... NON-Camera installation ...
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I deleted the Camera CAB and modified the cfg.txt file before copying the files to the EXTROM directory and flashing, same effect as cancelling the CAB install. It installed without error.
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That's great to hear ... and no slowdowns either I presume, which is very good news for SX66 users now.
rschell said:
I like the option to pick and choose what to install.
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Yeah ... I think a lot of people are like that - so having the choice to add MMS, Camera, or Midlets lets everyone decide to keep just what they want.
rschell said:
Pocket MSN works.
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Oh ... forgot to mention in my first post ... Pocket MSN was also updated to the latest version I could find/merge into the ROM.
rschell said:
Removed the screen rotate tool from the tray, I prefer the special button 9 on the keyboard for that function.
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NOTE: This is very easy to do for anyone else. All 'accessories' are simply loaded in the /Windows/Startup folder, so if you don't want something (like Cyberon Voice Dial, or Screen Rotate, or psShutXP, etc.) you can simply remove it from this directory, or disable it, and it'll no longer run. Similarly, all buttons are now configured as configurable buttons (not hard coded through registry, etc.) This way you can easily customize the device how you like it.
Remember, it's also not using any of your Storage memory for these 'extra' applications - so there's no cost in having or deleting them.
I'll check the board again in a little while ... must get back to work! I might be able to make a v1.1a later tonight, which will hopefully correct some of these initial problems which have been found. (If I find the time ... )
hello all ...
im not try this new ROM but 1 question... ist work to use BA as modem with this ROM ???
thanks in advanced...
Howdy,
In about a week (assuming that G.W.B. can resist starting WWIII for that long), I'm going to build another ROM. This time I'd like to get some input on what to include.
A few things to keep in mind:
1) The goal is to include apps and hacks that appeal to the widest audience and are useful. If it's something that's not useful to a lot of people, then there's no reason to put it into a ROM. I can add more themes and ringers as well, but they should appeal to as broad a group as possible.
2) I won't include any commercial apps. Not even in an unregistered state. I might consider things that have been extracted from other ROMs, but I'm debating that with the voices in my head and will decide later.
3) Apps should be mature, not beta, if possible. I don't want to have to rebuild the ROM every time a new beta version of an app comes out.
4) If possible, attach registry hacks in the form of .reg files to your request. Or at least post the registry entry in you message.
5) It would we swell if someone could take the lead on tallying up the suggestions and help to prioritize. I'll shoot for building the ROM in about 10 days.
If we can keep the additions under 5 Megs total I think we'll be OK.
Here's what will be in there as of now (which is in the current custom ROMs)
-Oregami themes
-digital, cellular, and electronic ringers
-.NET Compact Framework 2
-A2DP/AVRCP
-Wireless Today screen plugin
-enable multi-select/delete contacts
-a hidden treasure map providing the precise pinpoint location of $2.33 in pennies that I previously buried when I was perhaps 7 or 8
First I want to say thinks for the bang up job you have done on putting together these roms for us.
The only things that I would like to see that I can think of would be the registery hack that makes GPRS/EDGE stay on all the time. And I would also like, if it is possible, anything that would make the phone us a WiFi connection, when present and turned on, instead of GPRS/EDGE.
I am not sure if it is possible to do that or not.
Usefull apps
Well I would like to have these applications in the next ROM
1) Smartkeys - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41060&highlight=smartkeys
2) Wakeapp - to easily setup OmapClock and other event-driven applications. http://www.kent7.com/holly/wakeapp/ , download EN version at http://kent7.sakura.ne.jp/holly/wakeapp/wa_arm021_e.zip
3) SMSDeliveryFix - to show SMS recipient name in a delivery report - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42696&highlight=sms+delivery+fix
4) WM5NewMenu - similiar to WM2003 "New" button - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40088&highlight=wm5newmenu
5) WM5torage - PDA acting as a memory card reader without ActiveSync - http://www.modaco.com/WM5torage-t238545.html
6) Some software for sending and receiving vCard via SMS.
Thank you for the great effort :wink:
The correct E or G icon
Caps, Num, lock indicators
ability to set OMPA and forget it.
smaller scroll bars
the three reptile themes at this site, I think everyone would like these, grey, blue, and red.
http://www.zombienexus.net/portal/GL_SubDirectory.asp?SEC=3&CatID=70
TCPMP-media player
Total Commander-file explorer/reg editor
Agile Messenger-great messaging app aol,msn,icq etc.
I think these are good apps that everyone could use.
the only thing i think would be beneficial would be adding all the reg edits that reg wiz adds to speed up our device, so we don't have to do it each time we clear storage. THAT would be awesome. i could care less about apps being included, i can install them just fine; but it's a pain in the ass every time i clear storage/flash new rom, that i have to redo all the reg tweaks.
I haven't found a way, but more emphesis on Storage Memory than Program memory would be good for me. I use alot of storage memory with Contacts, Email (even with moving my attachments to storage) and Calendar databases.
I used the much cleaner 2.17 RUU rom without the ringtones but did copy over a couple of them from the 2.17 with RT and OC. Also copied the OMAP clock and it's shortcuts.
A clean Rom without much of the extras would be good.
I also have customized my Cingular connection to use isp.cingular and [email protected] instead of the built in wap.cingular and [email protected] connection. I also turned of the proxy as it was interfeering with my AKU2 push from my Exch2K3-SP2 box.
Is there anyway to use the EXT ROM or add a slider bar like in WM2003SE?
J-Man5
p.s. thanks for the ROMs. I just got my 8125 about 2 weeks ago and have been having mucho grande fun with it.
ROM additions
How about:
- Total Commander
- ?? some sort of free registry editor (PHM RegEdit?)
- smartskey, I agree, but I think it's ini file needs to be in the same directory and it's small so this may not work
- RegWizard (the xda developer forum developed list of hacks), although actually i don't think this is necessary because it along with its framework requires over a meg, and you can just delete it once you install the desired reg hacks. . .
- Magic Button or some other similar task manager thing
I don't think more themes or ringers would be uniformly useful.
jason
Can you add something to truly shut down apps?
I've gotten in the habit of shutting down apps through the running programs tab under memory. Is there any way to make this easier such as putting a direct link in the Start menu to this page or on the Today list.
You know, summiter, you could just fix it so that the programs actually close when you hit the X.
Re: Can you add something to truly shut down apps?
sbuff said:
I've gotten in the habit of shutting down apps through the running programs tab under memory. Is there any way to make this easier such as putting a direct link in the Start menu to this page or on the Today list.
You know, summiter, you could just fix it so that the programs actually close when you hit the X.
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Not unless he is going to rewrite the way Windows Mobile works. Thats a M$ thing. And also why apps such as vBar and Magic Button and InClose exist.
Summiter may be a ROM compiling wizard but lets not lay too many burdens at his feet to fix.
I'm just really happy push email is working.
J-Man5
Suggestions:
TCPMP with plugins http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/about
tGetFile.dll http://tillanosoft.com/ce/tgetfile.html
PocketNotepad http://tillanosoft.com/ce/pnotepad.html
PocketTweak http://tillanosoft.com/ce/ptweak.html
Adobe Reader 2.0 is huge and belongs in ROM. But is it popular enough? http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2_mobile.html#pocketPC
Continued Bluetooth Fixes
I have notice several still having Bluetooth issues with the lack of support; specifically, SSP over bluetooth. This opens up additional application possibilities not available today. I wouild like to run Bluetooth GPS with receivers such as the Holux 236 GPSlim, but the lack of SSP makes this almost impossible.
Just a thought
I'd like to see common registry hacks already applied and perhaps a txt file explaining the ones included with the new ROM. For example, the ones I listed below are from my own notes so when I re-flash I can re-apply them.
Regarding software, I'd almost prefer to see CAB files instead of pre-loaded software. Since CABs disappear once installed, we could make the choice of installing or deleting, and thus possibly save space but also gain the benefit of having them ready-to-install. You could even use different subdirectories for free vs the ones requiring a registration code to help keep the surprise / disappointment factor down (when we find out it costs money). This would also prevent a problem of competing solutions for some who prefer one plugin over another if they both serve a common function.
Along the same lines, I believe registry hacks can be applied via CAB files or maybe even .reg files (or maybe not - I'm still educating myself with all of this). You could stick with what you have for the current ROM but load it up with optional extras which could be deleted if we just didn't want them.
I think what you're doing is great and applaud your efforts!
I just started configuring my 8125 today, these are the hacks I applied so far (after stepping up to your 2.17 ROM):
Enable scrolling in IE with 4-way button
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav
Change Value from 1 to 0.
____________________
Slide-out Keyboard Status Indicator
\HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd
Create entry EnableIndicator and assign DWORD value of 1(decimal)
____________________
Increase your 8125 speed
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\
Change "CacheSize" value from "0" to "4096".
Assign a value of 1 to EnableCache
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\f sreplxfilt\
Assign a value of 4096 to ReplStoreCacheSize
____________________
Disable menu animation – removes menu animation which uses up system resources
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\Menu
Change "AniType" from "6" (default) to "0" (disabled).
____________________
Change the width of the vertical scroll bar and the height of the horizontal scroll bar so they take less room on the screen:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GWE
Change cxVScr to (say) 9 to make vertical scrollbar narrower. Default value is 13
Change cyHScr to (say) 9 to make horizontal scrollbar narrower. Default value is 13
____________________
Enable 802.11g
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TNETWLN1\Parms]
"dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008
"dot11SupportedRateMask"=dword:00000001
TCPMP
TCPMP definitely, I use this more than any other app on pocketpc devices.
I think you should also consider a paired down ROM. One without any Cingular addons that aren't required to make the device work on Cingular. Basically only the ones that set up MMS and the GPRS settings. I'd even leave out the proxy if thats possible.
But in this paired down ROM I'd still include a few extras like some extra themes and ringers.
And I'd put in the two programs I don't think anyone can live without, SmartSkey and TotalCommader.
Thats basically the setup I have now, but I'm wasting space in my extended ROM and other areas because there are things on my device that I can't remove and I'm not using.
azagahl said:
Adobe Reader 2.0 is huge and belongs in ROM. But is it popular enough? http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2_mobile.html#pocketPC
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Is Adobe reader prefered over the ClearviewPDF Reader that is already in the ROM?
Re: Continued Bluetooth Fixes
jlsenter said:
I have notice several still having Bluetooth issues with the lack of support; specifically, SSP over bluetooth. This opens up additional application possibilities not available today. I wouild like to run Bluetooth GPS with receivers such as the Holux 236 GPSlim, but the lack of SSP makes this almost impossible.
Just a thought
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I'm not familarwith SSP. Is it a profile? What does it enhance/enable?
Do you know if there are any WM5 devices which have it? (perhaps it can be ripped out and added to the Wiz)
knight4led said:
I think you should also consider a paired down ROM. One without any Cingular addons that aren't required to make the device work on Cingular. Basically only the ones that set up MMS and the GPRS settings. I'd even leave out the proxy if thats possible.
But in this paired down ROM I'd still include a few extras like some extra themes and ringers.
And I'd put in the two programs I don't think anyone can live without, SmartSkey and TotalCommader.
Thats basically the setup I have now, but I'm wasting space in my extended ROM and other areas because there are things on my device that I can't remove and I'm not using.
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haha this is at least the second message that goes something like: "how about a ROM stripped of everything, but add this and that and oh yeah add this too". I say this in good fun so don't take offense. It just indicates that everyone has quite unique needs.
I will create a barebones ROM as well. But I don't want to have too many ROMs out there because I don't want to have to rebuild them all when something changes.
As far as using the Extended ROM for other purposes..as of now it can't be done. It's locked in some way that prevents effectively using as storage space. (if you try to manipulate it, it becomes corrupted). So the only use for it is to install stuff at first boot.
Well I might as well put in my two cents....but first....Summiter....marry me! I'll tell my wife to divorce me and she can take her nokia phone with her!
-Ok definitely Smartskey in the same folder as Omapclock so smartskey.ini file can tell omapclock to clock me at 216 everytime after soft reset.
-Please take out the stupid SIP keyboard...i'ts useless and can only be used by leprechauns with little fingers.
-A way to easily change splash screens.
-Hide SIM contacts
HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone
new DWORD value named "ShowSim" and set it to 0
1. Disable menu animations to increase performance:
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SYSTEM\GWE\Menu"
Change "AniType" from "6" (default) to "0" (disabled).
- Add vibration instead of sound to keypresses in the phonepad for better tactile feedback:
for i = 0 to 9
Give an example for "i" Button:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\Dtmf "i"]
1. Rename Standart DWORD parameter "Sound" to "Sound1"
2. Create new String Parameter "Sound"
3. Assign value *vibrate* to this new parameter.
For this there is also a cab file available.
***this is a cool registry tweak
- oh and this is a must have, all these pda phones lack in the phone department...people on the other side of a phone call can barely hear us until you put this registry tweak in.
\\\registry\HKLM\Software\HTC\AUDIOGAIN(x)\
changed RECEIVE_UPLINK_VOLUME and EARPHONE_UPLINK_VOLUME values to CC. after that change, microphone sensitivity got better and didn't receive any more complaints.
Though i wish someone knew a way to improve the sound mic quality during speakerphone.
And there are so many ringtones in your rom summiter...they all sound alike lol. put the You've got mail.wav file for incoming mail, i have it if you want. how bout some funny ringtones or music ringtones instead?
k that's all
WARNING This rom is still in BETA, i can't garuntee that it will be fully useable.
There are two versions of this ROM, one for PH20B and one for PH20B1, please download the correct one.
PH20B Changelog -
Changelog said:
Changelog -
Version 1 - Internal release, many bugs.
Version 1.1 - First public release, fixed most bugs
Current Known Bugs -
Extended_ROM doesn't function automatically, run the autorun.exe manually
The Camera and Album shortcuts dont copy themselves. Copy 'camera.ink' and 'album.ink' from '\Windows' to '\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' and 'camera_detect.ink' from '\Windows' to '\Windows\Startup', then soft reset.
The 'camera' hardware button doesnt function - no fix at the moment
MSN won't sign in - no fix at the moment
To come soon-
Fixes for the above
a 32mb RAMdisk to store temporary files increasing the speed.
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PH20B1 Changelog -
Changelog said:
Changelog -
Version 1 - Internal release, many bugs.
Version 1.1 - First public release, fixed most bugs
Current Known Bugs -
Extended_ROM doesn't function automatically, run the autorun.exe manually
The Album shortcut doesnt copy itself. Copy 'album.ink' from '\Windows' to '\Windows\Start Menu\Programs'.
MSN won't sign in - no fix at the moment
To come soon-
Fixes for the above
a 32mb RAMdisk to store temporary files increasing the speed.
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Download Links:
PH20B - ftp://xda:[email protected]_Updates/Midgets Roms/WM5_Midget.zip
PH20B1 - ftp://xda:[email protected]_Updates/Midgets Roms/WM5_Midget_PH20B1.zip
EDIT MDAIIIUser
File moved and link updated
Wahey!
D/Ling as we speak... will update soon as I flash... (noticed it being added, and waited on ftp for it to finish 8) )
Have you included all the fixes in this (WLAN etc, and does the A2DP work?)
About to flash the rom now; prolly report back in the morning.
Thanks
W_LAN is working for me, so i guess so
I dont have any A2DP hardware but i used the newest dev packages (hence it is so late) so i guess so.
Please help
Hi! First of all I'd like to thank you all for your hard work in bringing new release!
I'm tryingo to update Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU_2.3_Beta1 to new Midget v1.1 AKU2.3 ROM (PH20B) and upgrader reports Country ID Error 17-17-Vpfdjttl-N-N.
Is there something I'm not doing right?
Thanks!
try adding these files to the upgrade folder, then run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe instead.
It working well except internet explorer hardware buttom dont work, thanks
its working see http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=322787&highlight=#322787
Thanks Midget_1990 That helped! Upgrading new image right now!
Flash went well, speed seems good, but a couple of issues...
Extended ROM - didn't Autorun (no great shakes just ran the Autorun file manually)
Camera - Image is rotated 90degrees CCW
Oh, and as usual, no Wireless Stereo profile (option is there when adding device, but not available as profile )
I can live with these though, no major issues, and I'm going to hammer it tomorrow to see how it copes under pressure
Flash went well! But for some reason Start pull down menu as well as pull down boxes or scrolling window is taking extremely long time to react. For example time between clicking on "Start" and seeing the menu may take 10-20 seconds.... Does anybody seeing this issue?
Just a thought... did you clear the Registry Hive and Format the Storage before you flashed?
start menu
have same issue......start menu takes forever. changed the notification settings and start menu pops much quicker.
registry hive and stotage were formated
A2DP issue is still there. While paring the device the option is there, but when you want to select the stereo profile, there is no option to do so.
The difference is that before, while paring the device it showed 2 services available:
Hands Free
Wireless Stereo.
Now it shows 3 options:
Hands Free
Wireless Stereo
Headset.
I have not experienced any other issues, exept for the buttons (you know, the IE and the mail buttons)(EDIT: all buttons are working ok now, I just assigned them other programs and then set them back to default and all was good) and also the camera bug.
Other than that, this is an AWESOME ROM!
If anyone could let me know if they have any ideas on the A2DP thing, that would be perfect
Did a few tests:
Bluetooth: Paired up with Motorola HS810, was able to make and receive calls handsfree.
Wireless: Got it enabled; once EXT_ROM installed, but was unable to locate any networks, whereas every other WM5 rom finds the 3 networks in range of my house straight away, will retest in the morning.
Phone: Ringing, vibrate seem to work okay, will try a longer call test tomorrow.
Button Lock: All working fine.
Quirks(Pedantic as well as showstoppers):
Error reporting is enabled by default
When paired, if you turn off the phone by the power button, it immediately turns back on, turning off again seems to work, but need a longer test to watch for random powerups
No Windows Media Player in Programs, only in Start Menu
Windows Media Player stutters on start of first playback of MP3
No Wifi in Comm manager, prolly a known issue
Brightness slider does absolutely sweet F.A
Responsiveness & Comments:
A bit on the slow side in comparison to AKU2.3_TEST_PATCHED_2 I tested earlier today. But this is to be expected in the absence of any tweaks or RAMDISK.
A great start, but you may want to change your release labelling to include ALPHA, BETA status, because the (ie, my) expectation with a 1.1 release is for it to have been fully tested first. Dunno if others feel the same.
Also it may be a good idea for the community to come up with a bunch of "UNIT TESTS" for each new rom that comes out, to make sure that no Rom goes backwards in functionality before release.
All in all great work Midget and all others who contributed, PM me if you need any roms testing.
PH20B2
My PDA is VPA III with PH20B2!
Can use which ROM?
Midget.. can you post up the SAP for your ROM?
Camera - Image is rotated 90degrees CCW
wierd, work perfectly for me
Extended ROM - didn't Autorun (no great shakes just ran the Autorun file manually)
known about, read the changelog
Start pull down menu as well as pull down boxes or scrolling window is taking extremely long time to react. For example time between clicking on "Start" and seeing the menu may take 10-20 seconds.... Does anybody seeing this issue?
doesnt happen for me, i will investigate this.
Oh, and as usual, no Wireless Stereo profile (option is there when adding device, but not available as profile Sad )
afaik bepe had fixed this, but obviously not, ill try to fix it asap
No Windows Media Player in Programs, only in Start Menu
thanks, ill fix that asap
Windows Media Player stutters on start of first playback of MP3
trying to geta fix for this
No Wifi in Comm manager, prolly a known issue
known issue with all aku 2.3 roms atm
When paired, if you turn off the phone by the power button, it immediately turns back on, turning off again seems to work, but need a longer test to watch for random powerups
thats the Suspend fix, you can't have it both ways
Error reporting is enabled by default
didnt realise it was a problem
Brightness slider does absolutely sweet F.A
thanks for the heads up, ill get working on it
the absence of any tweaks or RAMDISK.
tweaks are there, ramdisk is coming soon.
My PDA is VPA III with PH20B2!
if you have a camera use the PH20B rom if not use the PH20B1 rom. whichever one you use edit set operator.bat so that all PH20B/PH20B1 are changed to PH20B2
Midget.. can you post up the SAP for your ROM?
It's the uni + wizard one from the main thread with a few modification so it works better.
Hi Midget_1990,
Disabling all of the sound notifications made my device at least 1000% more responsive... Now pull down Start menu pop-down almost immediately! I believe the problem is somehow sound notification related.... Just my thoughts thou... I'll do more testing, will let you know if find anything
i dont know why that happens for you, my startmenu etc is instant with or without the sound notification, no noticable difference :?:
Same problem here. With sound and notifications, SX66 CRAWLS. turn off sound, flys!!!!
BTW, Many thanks for all your hard work. It is greatly appreciated!!
Moti
Do you prefer a clean version of WM6 or with extra applications?
And which applications do you like?
C_shekar - I think you need some investigation which kind of soft user needs.
So let us post our vision of required soft preinstalled in ROM.
as far as I understand we taking about freeware.
My List:
1. Touch flo (if there are any possibility)
2. Dict
3. Alreader light 2\Hali reader
4. Total Commander Mobile
5. TCMP
6. Pdf - viewer
7. WM5-storage
8. Some sort of timer.
9. ICQ application (qip for example)
10. Gsplayer
11. Rar mobile
1. No RAM disk
2. 24MB Pagepool
3. TouchFlo
I think the ROM should stay clean, so the user can decide what apps he wants to add.
I think one can only add the HTC home tab thingie!
Cheers
divocak
no ram disk ??
man are you mad ?
for what reason you need all amount of RAM ?
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
But I`ve agree to save some extra mem by lowering page poll. (I think 16 mb will be ok )
No, just leave the pagepool at 32 as I think it's neccessary to keep the Rom goes fast. No more software should be added I hope 'cause users can add them in later on. Just all the important fixes and patches. And that's all. Anyone want to personalize the ROM can do that by creating an extendedRom in their SD, is it, so just try to keep the version pure (one of the best exapmle is buzz 3.33). But, the ROMs that personalized before by certain developers are appreciated as well.
obaz said:
divocak
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
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Oh i dont know that - i think that ram-disk is only for storage. thanx for info.
I agree. The upgrade rom should be a clean one so a person can choose exactly what software they require and will use. We must also remember that we all use our PPC for different reasons so there will never be a rom with software we all want or need.
Clean and Clear
Hello!!! Yes I think the WM6 should be clean version, if someone wants to install apps they can do so. The reason to keep the clean version is to make the device run faster.
Although there should be a clean version but also there should be a choice of software (seprately given). If need be people can install them on their Device.
Kind Regards
Jay
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
some softwares are necessary...
because not all of Himalaya users are goood at play the phone,they need it quick and all-in-one.
may be we can cook 2 ROMs,one clean version of WM6 and one with extra applications
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
Kind Regards
Jay
very very clean please
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).
Maggy said:
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).
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Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay
jaytheguru said:
But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
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Personally, I don't think so.
If one wouls want to install some software (common used, for example) he would install it in storage mem. And I could make it into rom instead.
If you don't want to use it - just don't use it
One day we would make a kitchen - and then all could make their own personal rom.
Personally, I can tell you that I'm going to release a clean and speed tweaked rom - once, and then I'm going to start releasing my personalized one.
It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess
bearshare said:
It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess
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yes..i agree with you
jaytheguru said:
Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay
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I wanted to give insight in how I use my Hima, it is by no means a wish list for a personalised ROM. (although volunteers are welcome to cook one for me ;-)
I hope others will give similar insight in their uses.
When I flashed to WM5 I thought I was using a clean ROM. It did come with Powerpoint and Exell, IMHO a waste of space. It didn't come with a working smartdial and it took me a full day to find a smartdial that works on one of my Hima's but not on another almost identical Hima. IMHO an awful waste of time unless you like to reinvent the wheel.
I've seen discussions in other threads about what they do/do not call a "clean" ROM. IMHO a clean ROM should offer as much basic functionality as possible. I believe Smartdial is one of these basic functions.
But every piece of software that you can find elsewhere, like Powerpoint and Exell should in my opinion be left out of the clean ROM, right?
A kitchen would be a good idea. A kitchen with a clear step by step manual that any noob can follow would be even nicer. Perhaps such kitchens were around before the ftp site closed, I'm only here regularly since a week or two.
I downloaded two files with the word kitchen in its name and unfortunately neither explained to me how to use it.
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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You r absloutly right
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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I can't agree with you any more
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I must stress that your phone must be HARDSPL'ed in order to flash my ROMs. Also, read this post for updated flashing instructions.
THIS ROM IS ENGLISH WWE ONLY and don't forget to backup your various info (contacts, documents, etc). Users of Palm Messaging can backup their SMS messages by looking for "PalmMsgV001" in the windows folder. Unfortunately, reading this file can only be done with Palm Messaging, so copy/paste anything of importance before flashing.
Special note: Bluetooth file sharing now works GUARANTEED in all 2.5 and up ROMs, and remember that the "receive all beams" option in the Infrared settings is on by default, if you don't use Bluetooth don't forget to turn this off.
V3.2 Hermann Classic
Version 3.0 updates:
-Please refer to this post regarding changes.
-The stuff you know from Version 2.5 is still in, but with complete bug fixes.
-No more "BASE" or "Full" ROMs.
-Storage is low because ROM is XPR compressed for AltKeys.
-ROM is designed to work with toxic's Android UI packs (Not fully tested)
-Symbols SIP added in case Alt Keys does not work. This can be accessed via the "up" arrow beside the SIP keyboard icon when the SIP is active.
Version 3.1 update:
-Sped up image processing on the device.
--This boost in image processing brings a significant overall boost to the device's operation, including faster camera image capturing, JPEG viewing, and perhaps a boost to the 2D graphics rendering on the device (over 100 points boost over non-Hermann ROMs in SKTools graphics benchmark), making emulators such as MoonGBA able to play games like Megaman Battle network 95% speed (frameskip 1, no sound due to slow cpu)
-Fixed fatal Camera launching bug.
Version 3.2 updates:
-Hopefully I finally fixed the fatal Camera bug.
-Fixed missing "USB to PC" setting.
-Fixed Windows Live, am able to log into my Live account. (Don't forget to check your APN in "Connection" settings)
-PATCH: Want to enable the Ringer Switch at the top of the Treo to vibrate when you receive a call? Read this post.
-Themes: Want the rest of the default WM6.5 themes? Click here.
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VERSION 3.2 ROM Build 21895
51.49MB available user Storage
23MB available RAM
DOWNLOAD 3.2 ROM (Do not forget to soft reset the device after "Device Customization" finishes!)
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Consumer ROM Build 21916
48MB available user Storage
23MB available RAM
DOWNLOAD 2.4 ROM
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Version 2.4 features:
--I gave Fjtor's kitchen a try
--Start Menu at the top
--First Treo750 ROM to utilize Bepe's Big Storage
--As I promised, HTC's 21889 Build is used for Fast Stable use
--Bluetooth file sharing ready
--BASE ROM is a bare ROM, great for users who want to install their own stuff
--Consumer ROM has basic stuff to get you started, such as Marketplace, Windows Live, Ringtones, xTask, and others
V2.3 Hermann Finger
2.3 Updates:
-Fixed ringer notification bug
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Hermann Finger BASE ROM
66MB available user Storage
23MB available RAM
DOWNLOAD ROM
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Hermann Finger Consumer ROM
50MB available user Storage
24MB available RAM
DOWNLOAD ROM
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Features:
--These are primarily experimental ROMs.
--Start Menu at the bottom.
--Also cooked using Fjtor's kitchen
--Also utilizing Big Storage.
--Build 29007 is used here
--Bluetooth file sharing ready
--BASE ROM is a bare ROM, great for users who want to install their own stuff
--Consumer ROM has basic stuff to get you started, such as Marketplace, Windows Live, Ringtones, xTask, and others
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KITCHEN FILES (NEEDS FJTORSOL'S KITCHEN) Read this post for more info. NOTE: These are the old 2.4 packs)
Big Storage (This archive must be extracted to "\Sources\Devices\HTC Cheetah\Profiles")
http://www.mediafire.com/?uhmxn1j7aj0fsgf
UPDATED PACKAGES February 29 2012:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?57nedd9e7i131fr
Attached to this post is the 4-row Start Menu grid settings unique to the Hermann series of ROMs, so now you too can have more icons onscreen! Instructions are in the .txt files in the archive.
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<<<<<<<<<<<---WM6.1 HERMANN--->>>>>>>>>>>
The best WM6.1 ROM you will ever see for the Treo
Version 3.0 updates:
-Please refer to this post regarding changes.
-The stuff you know from Version 2.5 is still in, but with complete bug fixes.
-No more TouchFlo because the ROM is already finger-scrolling enabled.
-XPR compressed
note: Popup menu font too big? Read this post on how to change it.
note: Unable to set USB cable settings? Read this post on how to fix it.
PATCH: Want to enable the Ringer Switch at the top of the Treo to vibrate when you receive a call? Read this post.
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Build 20771
58MB available user Storage
29MB available RAM
DOWNLOAD 3.0 ROM (Do not forget to soft reset the device after "Device Customization" finishes!)
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Old release news
Features in both builds:
Version 1
--Added single click side button functionality, customizable (default: camera)
--Registery cleaned up.
--Renamed "Storage Card" to "Mini SD".
--Enabled full screen option in Camera (it just removes the WM UI though)
--Palm messaging has been replaced with default MS inbox. Now SMS can be backed up or defaulted to 3rd party programs like Flexmail.
--Start menu has been optimized for speed. Because of the extra speed, 4 columns are introduced instead of 3, giving users less to scroll through and more content (and back to the normal speed).
--Red button functionality is full like WM6, including radio power off.
--xTask is streamlined into the OS as an EXT package. This program is your task manager, in Hermann Finger use this to intercept tapping the Start icon if your hardware button is dead.
--Both builds can be connected to Windows Mobile Device Center (tested on Windows7 Home Premmy 32bit). As I unfortunately cannot use Outlook, do let me know if that works.
Version 2 additions:
--For the first time ever, the Splash image when the phone is starting has been changed.
--Thanks to Big Storage, even though the ROM was compressed to XPR, it's fast and not using too much storage space.
--Pagepool is now 6MB, Fast is fast
--The Startup sound returns to Windows Mobile! Customizable, and can be disabled if a personal touch to your phone is unnecessary.
--Added Microphone AGC. Greatly enhances voice recording, and perhaps even phone calls.
--Added Clear Storage. Why Palm never had a software method to Hard Reset I'll never know...
--Added Keylock. It sometimes helps to lock the Green Button and the Start Button from turning on the phone. Funny, isn't it? At least on my phone.
--Taskbar icons modernized,adding Bluetooth display functionality
--Includes Arcsoft MMS 5.2.2.66
Version 2.1 additions
--This time Version 2.1 was cooked using Fjtorsol's kitchen. There are a few pros and cons, pros like working shortcuts, cons such as the inability to use network time (my V2 build could, but not 2.1). Note that Version 2.1 also has Fjtorsol's features.
--Some of Fjtor's features were upgraded, such as App service to 1.87.0.0, Arcsoft to 5.2.2.66, Sim Toolkit Svc to 4.93.0.2, Sim Toolkit UIPPC to 4.73.0.0, and USSD Service to 4.36.0.1.
--Like I promised, build 21889 has been tested for over a month and it's ready for use. This build was released in December 2010 from HTC, as you can see it's very fast and it totally smokes my Touch Pro. The \Windows\ folder loads in about 1 second, compared to Energy's ROM on my Touch Pro at 3-4 seconds.
--I decided to do 2 versions, a BASE ROM and a Consumer ROM, simply put, the BASE ROM is for users who want to install stuff themselves (like Windows Live), and the Consumer ROM is great if you want a lot of Microsoft services ready to use, such as Windows Live or Microsoft MyPhone. BASE ROM has a lot of storage available, Consumer ROM has 20% of that used up.
--Bluetooth file sharing is ready and it works, and you don't need to enable "accept all beams" in that Infrared setting. I have tested receiving a file from a Samsung SGH-D807 Simple Phone, all you need to do is "enable File sharing" in the FTP tab of the Bluetooth settings.
--Storage Card is the default name now, I was too lazy to change to MiniSD
--Version 2.1 retains Clear Storage and Microphone AGC, available in both BASE and Consumer ROMs.
--Both ROMs have Zip Mobile 2010 version 1.2.3.1.
--Pagepools are set at 6. Remember to change it depending on the kind of work you use your Treo for.
--Unfortunately, due to me using Fjtorsol's kitchen, the ROMs are compressed in LZX, I have no idea why my kitchen can use XPR at the same size Fjtor's does with LZX. So I stuck with LZX, which doesn't matter to Build 21889, because it's still fast
Fixes from Version 2 to 2.1
-Thanks to Fjtorsol's kitchen, shortcuts are no longer mysteriously deleted or cloned.
-Bluetooth file sharing used to be dead in Version 2. Fixed in Version 2.1, remember to enable file sharing in the FTP tab.
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Fixes since V1:
-[Hermann Classic]Fixed "Phone" icon in Start Menu that pointed to nowhere when tapped.
-Deleted dead SMS tone setting that didn't work
-Added missing "Brightness" icon in Settings Panel
-Added Missing "Keyguard" icon in Settings Panel
-Removed Palm's simple Ringtone settings, enabling the more customizable Windows Mobile ringtone settings
-When mapping the side button, there was no icon. Icon now defaulted to Camera.
-Option+OK mapped to XHook.
Known bugs:
--Due to my dependence on VolServ, the Ringtone settings for "Phone: Known Caller" retains that bug all custom ROMs have, which doesn't matter what kitchen you use. A fix was to remove the registry settings linked to VolServ, but then half the system will not work. To remedy, simply select the ActiveSync settings, then back to Known Caller and you'll see the real settings.
--The Caps/Shift keys icon that shows up beside the little keyboard SIP icon is gone. I discovered it is Theme related. I fixed it at one point during the Real Power Button testing, and it did show up. I can't seem to redo that without killing some things.
--In Fjtorsol's ROMs, I was unable to get time settings from my wireless carrier. I have confirmed this to be a problem with the type of ROM used as a base, as my V2 ROMs were based on Palm's 2.30 ROM, which supported my wireless carrier's network time. Unfortunately, because I used Fjtor's kitchen, this "bug" carried over to my V2.1 ROMs. This is a problem if you use programs that utilize Windows Mobile's Cell ID location-based service.
--Theme was removed from Hermann Finger. [Hermann Finger] The HTC Black theme (originally for WM6.5.0)seems to work at first, but changing to a different theme and back leaves the bottom bar and other 6.5.3 icons missing. I consider the HTC Black theme as a one time gig, apparently, since I cannot edit the theme as WinCE cab manager needs to be registered before I can fix it.
--Random? [Hermann Finger] With the enhanced top Taskbar, sometimes (it happened to me while locked to 3G) when you turn on the Radio, the signal appears empty (as blank, 0). There still is a signal the same as your last level, and your network type (3G, Edge, GSM) will still be shown, and you can still make calls. Hermann Classic did not have this problem, which it actually had a much cooler feature, remember when you turn on the radio, and try to access the "Phone" settings, and the Treo will tell you "the Phone is busy, wait 15 seconds", well in Hermann classic, I observed it to not show the signal strength until the Phone is ready. Might not happen often, but it was really cool.
--No more Splash screen. The Hard Reset function (Hold Red Button + Reset button) may look blank, or glitched, but it still works. Apparently Palm never thought Big Storage was possible
--The HSDPA icon that displays when you are actively downloading on HSDPA is gone. Or rather, Palm's Dial Lookup was the original source. don't worry, when that 3G icon turns into a funny looking icon, you are still on HSDPA.
--Fixed. BASE has no rings, Consumer does. Only 3 ringtones? Apparently, keeping Dial Lookup, Active Call, and my mod to remove Palm Messaging keeps it this way, no matter how I tried to cook the rings into there. Don't worry, you can still add your own ringtones, preferably into the \My Documents\My Ringtones folder.
--Fixed via Fjtorsol's kitchen. [Hermann Finger] There is again 2 MS Office folders. Both work the way they should, but forgot to delete it as I had already uploaded the ROM...
--Fixed. Kept VolServ in the ROMs because it controls a lot more than just sounds. [Herman Finger] The following sounds seem to not work: MiniSD card insert and remove, and Charger connected and removed. It actually is controlled by Palm's Volume control service (the little pop-up volume window that open on the top left), which I had removed in Hermann Finger.
--Fixed from Fjtorsol's kitchen. [Hermann Classic] 2 battery bars. Tried automating showing the clock up top, but for some reason it doesn't like me
--[Hermann Finger]The ALT key symbols window still has the redraw bug, just use D-pad to select. I fixed that as well while working on Real Power button, and I admit, I forgot the change I did :/
--[Hermann Finger Consumer ROM]Input Panel shortcut is gone, which means you can't edit typing options
FAQs, How to's, and more
Q: So explain to me the Sleep of Death
A: Existent in some WM 6.5 builds, even for other devices, Sleep of Death occurs when you power off the phone either via software or the Red Button, and the phone cannot power on in any way whatsoever, power button, plugging it in, etc. Currently, I have not experienced this in Build 23563, but in Builds 21901/21915. This is probably solved by my battery polling customization, although if it persists, disable auto turn-off for either battery or AC, or you'll have to change your brightness setting due to Palm's Backlight bug. Do note that my Treo's have worked past their service life, and their batteries are less the capacity than they used to be.
Q: What is the Backlight bug?
A: Existent even in Palm's OEM ROMs, the backlight bug is when you have your brightness set to 2, sometimes even 3 (The backlight is rated by 0 - 10, 0 being off, and 10 being the brightest). The Backlight bug occasionally refuses to put the device on standby (more often when plugged into AC), or even turn off the backlight. This is a hardware problem because if you set your Brightness to 2, and put the device on standby when running on battery, you can turn on the device again if you toggle the ringer switch (the switch on the top of the phone). This is a persistent hardware bug, which existed on all the 4 Treo's I have touched so far. (it's how I turn on my keyboard-less Treo)
Q: Can you do ____ language?
A: All my ROM's support multiple languages (although I have never tried making ones other than English). All I would need is the Palm OEM ROM of the language that you want done, then we'll see.
Q: What Kitchen did you use?
A: I use OSKitchen Zero.
Q: Will you upload your kitchen?
A: As you may have heard, there's a ridiculous bandwidth limit on the wireless carrier I currently use (800MB). My kitchen folder reaches 2.02GB (size, not size on disk), and uploading that is now impossible. Even if I separate the parts into individual folder, it's still going to add up to much more than 800MB. So sorry, the idea of uploading my kitchen was only in the event I could not continue. Well, I've gone as far as completed
Q: What happened to Build 21915?
A: It had a fatal bug that would not load some programs, notably .Net CF programs.
Q: Build 21901 help! How do I get rid of that second battery bar?
A: Go to Clocks & Alarms in Start ->Settings->, and then tap that "more" tab, and then check "Display the Clock on the title bar in all programs"
Q: Why can't we tap the Start icon in WM6.5.3?
A: Basically, it's the fault of Palm's OEM today plugin "Active call". This plugin is responsible for the handling of calling-related features of the Treo, from the dialer skin, to the today-screen Softkey options, to the speakerphone activation, to anything that displays call information. Why it interferes with 6.5.3 is best explained in detail. As you may not have known, Windows Mobile is an interesting platform in one respect because of how highly customizable it is. The Palm designed OS is layered like this:
--- <-Palm Active Call Today Plugin
--- <-WM Today theme skin
--- <-Underlying OS
As you can see, Palm's Active Call plugin is covering the Today theme in who handles what the user touches. So when we click on the Start icon, it looks like we pressed it, but we didn't because Palm's plugin is designed for WM5/6, which has a normal softkey bar at the bottom. Their Left Softkey is overlapping the Start icon, so to the OS, we are pressing that spot on the UI, but Palm's plugin is intercepting what it launches by launching nothing, since it was programmed to not launch anything at those coordinates linked to the OS. This can be easily seen by tapping on the xTask icon, and then tap on the Start icon.
Q: So why did you make the Start menu faster and 4 columns?
A: Well, I was a big fan of that start menu layout changer I got here at XDA-devs, but it didn't work on our Treo's. I don't know why it doesn't work, as it works on my hx2415, but I set out to manually edit the Start menu myself. While I will maintain the secret of what I believe made it faster, I decided a 4 column layout was best because, with a 3 column layout, it takes longer to scroll because our screens are about 2.5 inches, which is really not a lot of real estate for the primary scrolling finger (our thumbs). So if you are wondering why it lags a bit, that's because you are seeing 8 full icons and 2 half icons, compared to only 6 in the 3 column layout, and the device scales the icons depending on their default size (program dependent).
Q: Can you take out ____ program?
A: Due to my lame internet connection, I can't be doing things that could break 1 person's functionality, while helping 1 person's desire. I try to do a ROM that works for the general user, and not for a power user like me (It's why I didn't see the SMS tone bug until later, because I didn't care for that :S)
Q: Huh? XPR compression?
A: ROM's are loaded onto a device in 3 types, a non-compressed ROM image, a compressed ROM image, and a Super compressed ROM image. non-compressed uses up a large amount of space, a compressed image (XPR) uses about half the space available to the Treo, and a Super compressed (LZX) image uses even less space. These of course, have their drawbacks. Uncompressed ROM images uses up a whole lot of space, but is quick to access the Windows Mobile parts. XPR is compressed to fit in a reasonable amount of space, and is a bit slower to access than uncompressed. LZX is tightly compressed, and while you use up even less space, the ROM is very tightly packed in that the CPU needs a little more extra time to read WM elements of the OS. An example is like this, between XPR and LZX, say you have a box, and you put things in it. If you stuff it with as much as you can to save space (LZX), you may have saved space, but trying to get things inside that box will take a little more extra digging. With a more tidy stuffing of the box (XPR), if you properly set things inside the box, accessing the things inside will be much quicker.
Q: Explain to me "Big Storage".
A: I made a graphic explaining this, but basically, Big Storage is the removal of the ExtendedROM partition that exists in the HTC devices during the Hermes era. The ExtROM is what holds Carrier-specific settings/bloatware that you see in the Palm OEM ROMs. This is a problem with Custom ROMs, because we use the "unbranding" procedure to delete the stuff in the ExtROM, but the partition itself is not deleted. This is where Big Storage comes in. Big Storage has no record of the ExtROM whatsoever, so it re-formats the rest of the available storage as one whole Storage space for the user to use. I have seen this have a great boost in speed with the Operating System, as the device no longer has to mount (and hide) another partition on the Flash chip. So far no other ROM besides my Hermann series has been able to do this.
Great to hear! looking forward to seeing how you get along =)
waiting for first beta release!
So, a little update, ironically enough because internet on my phone is down so I decided to use expensive tethering to let everyone know I'm still alive XD
I'm glad I decided to take a working keyboard from my good Treo and put it in the bad Treo, my repaired Radio antenna had to be re-repaired so now I can leave the keyboard on there (still did not get replacement keyboard). That gave me a chance to test the buttons on my WM6.5 build, and the "Alt" key works, and brings up the symbols list. Red phone button still does not work (don't worry, I do know why), also I realized the Phone Settings is still there, just need to re-work the shortcut to point to it. Still trying to solve the SD card problem, so now I need to raid Nav's post history lol.
Edit: Nav's post history needs to be searched by not just his posts, I even need to read if others replied to him. If anyone can help me out and remember or able to see what it is that causes the Sd card problem, I'd really appreciate it (my connection is timed -_-)
Hey guys, I got a great story to tell.
You guys might not know me very well, I mean, I rarely posted here before, but if I had to say something about me, it's that I'm not the type of person to ask help on how to do something, if I can do it myself. Well, last night, I tried and tried, and even dunked myself into bed and immediately fell asleep (narrowly escaping catching a cold because of no blanket lol), but I persevered, and now look what I have done!
That's right, build 23563! Better than Mietas' ROM because tapping the start menu works, but just like Mietas' ROM, closing Messenger with the lower right corner close button still freezes the program. And... since I have been using Nav's badly configured files (no offense Nav), the SD card bug remained. There was even the camera bug, and the WM player that never was. I didn't give up though, thanks to Mietas' discontinued ROM project, I have craftily taken his romhdr.bin and stuck it into my kitchen. I also realized why the Camera didn't work and why WM Player was gone. Now, I present to you, the first real working WM 6.5 Rom for our Treo 750's!
"Gee whiz mangatron, you went back in time? How is that the best working WM 6.5?" you say? Well, look here!
See that? It's the Palm OEM applications running! I can make calls, send TXT messages and recieve them, you can hang up calls and, you can POWER OFF the phone! Brightness setting via Fn+p works too! Yahoo! That's not it though! The SD Card can now be recognized, the Camera works, and WM Player is back again! Absolutely the best WM6.5 for our Treo's yet!
But there's still more. See, as much as a noob that I am, I hadn't realized until build 23563 on why the Palm OEM stuff wasn't running. You see, I already knew why Nav's ROM couldn't hang up or power off. Thanks to my older brother for testing this when he had my Treo, the today plugins "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" are Palm programs, that, one or the other (or both combined) control brightness setting, hanging up, keypad dialer, speakerphone enabler, etc. PRetty much all phone functions were handled by these 2 today plugins. When Nav took them out, it killed his phone functionality. I knew that without these, nothing will work the way I want it to. I didn't do this alone. If it weren't for Nav and Mietas for trying before me, I could have never learned how to cook, and most importantly, I would have never had tried 6 months ago had I gotten a new phone then.
Now, I hope everyone understands why I didn't upload it yet (expensive tethering is the only way to safely upload without risk getting cut off). There are also other reasons why, namely, how I found out why build 23563 didn't have my Palm OEM's. You see, during the cooking process, I noticed I had a lot of bad lines in the RGU file for the Palm OEM APPS package. So everytime I flashed my rom, I didn't see the Palm today plugins because by default, the registry turned them off! So I installed SKtools, enabled them, and boom, working Treo. So, if everyone is fine with manually turning on these 2 plugins by themselves, then okay, version 1 here we go! Except, I need to tell more about this ROM. You see, because I took some .bin files from Mietas' ROM, my build is now slow like his. Well, it's not laggy I-want-to-freeze slow, it's just, think back to WM5. If you had the Treo with WM5 before, you'll know what I mean. When you tap stuff it would like peel or what I like to call "blink". The problem could be because I set the page pool to 4MB (known to save RAM, but slow down multiple program usage), so I will try with a page pool of 6MB. That's basically the only caveat, actually. The rom is a tiny bit slow, but if you can live with that, and want a real working WM6.5 now, then I'll see. I have planned to tether this coming Monday or Tuesday GMT +8 (that is, Hong Kong time), so who knows, I may even pull a Spiattie here and provide both a Classic (21915) and Touch (23563) versions!
Note to Roberto: Luckily, Keyguard can be disabled. But I have not installed S2U to see if that will lock on power down (even with Keyguard disabled, the Red button can still power off). Let me know if S2U can lock when the device goes to standby, right now I am so excited to have finally helped out XDA when it comes to the Treo 750!
good work! i'm waiting for classic version!
hey great work!!! is there anyway you can make your perfect working wm6.5 rom with wm6.5.3, its just that wm6.5.3 looks so awesome!!!!!! but more than anything thanks for your effort i think you are the only remaining chef for our treo, but there is still this problem of titanium i know that ytou just started and thats why you havent added it but, whenever you add it there may be some problems that you may need to deal with, still this is the best rom i have seen so far and i can live without titanium, oh and about the s2u i dont see any need to install it right now as the normal lock button is working, but still it looks pretty cool maybe we should just put the download link next to the rom, as some people may not like it
the biggest problem at either some people may not like an app, they may want more memory instead of the app, or it is a pain in the ass trying to update that app later.
and about the wm6.5.3 maybe could you leave the fonts as they are? is just that in wm6.5.3 when you open a list the letters are just to big also when you open a menu and as our treos screen is so small... maybe it could be wm6.5.3 with wm6.5 fonts for menus and lists
if pics dont show here are the links
http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p31/mangatron/?action=view¤t=21915-2.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/i/201008080432440005111g.jpg/sr=1
maybe im going a bit to fast but i tend to go directly to the point when speaking sorry if im asking to much
Roberto 1234 said:
hey great work!!! is there anyway you can make your perfect working wm6.5 rom with wm6.5.3, its just that wm6.5.3 looks so awesome!!!!!! but more than anything thanks for your effort i think you are the only remaining chef for our treo, but there is still this problem of titanium i know that ytou just started and thats why you havent added it but, whenever you add it there may be some problems that you may need to deal with, still this is the best rom i have seen so far and i can live without titanium, oh and about the s2u i dont see any need to install it right now as the normal lock button is working, but still it looks pretty cool maybe we should just put the download link next to the rom, as some people may not like it
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Believe me buddy, you are not asking too much. My regret right now is that I cannot upload right now, and that if only I had done this 6 months ago Treo users wouldn't have had to wait for so long to have WM6.5 on our phones.
Some things I need to clear up, lol the reason why the Palm plugins "Active call" and "Dial Lookup" were disabled in my tests builds, is because Titanium overwrote their registry settings because, whenever Titanium is enabled, no other plugins can run on the today screen. So I had to take out Titanium for good, just so that the Palm plugins can run.
About S2U, you're right about RAM, WM6.5.3 uses up more by default (my suspicion is the Theme), so including it would probably make only 20MB RAM available lol.
and about the wm6.5.3 maybe could you leave the fonts as they are? is just that in wm6.5.3 when you open a list the letters are just to big also when you open a menu and as our treos screen is so small... maybe it could be wm6.5.3 with wm6.5 fonts for menus and lists
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You know, I'm glad you asked me about this. This is controlled by the .tsk file and the .png images that make up the Classic Blue today theme. As long as I reconfigure the .tsk file (not sure if my WM5 skinning program can support WM6.5.3) and edit the images into a smaller size (should work, I did a little test and the menu now looks like just a slightly larger WM6 menu), it will be usable.
Really want to upload now >___<
well as long as it works fine, and has wm6.5.3 i dont really need titanium
Post #2 contains my changelog for now, as you can see I'm really working on the bugs right now. As of this moment, all bugs have been taken care of except the memory leak, but man I really need that keyboard replacement. It's tough always flashing via USB...
i have an 4gb micro sd but not a converter... -.- thats why i always flash via usb, i think it is safer and more easy to use
i cant wait to see the wm6.5.3 build its just so awesome!
posted through my WM6.5 build
Roberto 1234 said:
i have an 4gb micro sd but not a converter... -.- thats why i always flash via usb, i think it is safer and more easy to use
i cant wait to see the wm6.5.3 build its just so awesome!
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A micro SD adapter, huh. Dealextreme.com has it for dirt cheap (with free shipping), although I had problems with the adapter. I tried my 16GB Micro SD with a more reliable adapter, and both builds are able to read it. Really cool how my projects have come along.
I also updated posts 1 and 2 with more info and teaser screens. Enjoy and Monday-Tuesday is going to be a great day! (hopefully Monday)
awesome, they all look so cool great work! XD
i have one quetion, the other devices with wm6.5 what do they use for calling, maybe in the titanium build it wouyld be possible to use that app
sent from my custom Treo build
YEEEEAAAAHH! Final bug destroyed (could not configure SMS tone). Expect release in several hours.
Roberto 1234 said:
i have one quetion, the other devices with wm6.5 what do they use for calling, maybe in the titanium build it wouyld be possible to use that app
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Hmm? I did not include Titanium in any build. It just wouldn't work (probably because I never looked into it an focused on the Red button more)
All calling related features of the Treo are handled by the Palm OEM applications, with the exception of SMS related features.
By the way, do you guys use MMS often? I just realized my ROMs do not have this capability (I never used MMS, too expensive). I could include an MMS program...
nah, i never use even sms, if needed i can download an mms app, so doint worry about it right now, most of us use this work phone for music and games (wich i think is stupid -.-) but anyway, i dont think we use it to much.
o and about the titanium maybe on another build, as the red button is working maybe the calling app that navs rom already has could be an alternative, but right now i cant wait for wm6.5.3 roms release!
An early christmas present for all
ROM's have been uploaded, posts 1, 2, and 3 have been updated. Enjoy, and if you can, donate, if not, hitting the Thanks button is fine I guess.
By the way, did you know that it's possible to have Manual Focus for the Treo's camera? Yes, it does actually work, and I'll show more later!
I forgot to add, do post here whatever problems you encounter. With as many WM programs as there are, I of course have no idea if they all work on my builds. I also do not have the Spectec Wifi card, so I don't even know if that will work on my builds. I am interested to know if it works.
geart work, thanks it looks so awesome, ill try them out!