I upgraded my Cingular 8125 last night with the excellent 2.17 rom provided by summiter. All was looking great until I tried to connect to my wireless network (Linksys WRT54GX4 SRX400 router with WPA-PSK security). I entered the key and it tried to connect, but then my wireless network switched from "Available" to "Unavailable" and dropped to the bottom of the network cards list. I could click on the network and tell it to reconnect, but it would do the same "available...unavailable" sequence every time. Wondering if it was a bad flash, I reapplied the 2.17 ROM and tried again with the same results. Not to give up too easily, I grabbed the 2.16 iMate ROM and applied it to see if the Cingular customizations could be causing the issue. Same problem.
So I disabled all security on my Linksys, cleared the net card settings on the 8125, and tried to reconnect. No luck. My neighbor has a plain Linksys WRT54G, so I tried to connect to hers and it worked just fine. At this point, I had to go back to the stock Cingular ROM because I need access to my wireless lan. All works well with the stock Cingular ROM.
Has anyone else seen this behavior with the 2.x ROMs? I'm wondering if there is a bug in the wireless networking support in the updated version of WM5 or if it is some weird incompatibility with the new Linksys WRT54GX4.
-BK
edit: corrected the router model number
At this point, I had to go back to the stock Cingular ROM because I need access to my wireless lan. All works well with the stock Cingular ROM.
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Hey, does this ROM upgrade allow you downgrade. i have read stuff on this forum with people saying that they get an error "upgrade only" if they try to downgrade.
Way to keep the same topic going...start your own thread. :roll:
Unfortunately I don't have any feedback or value to add. I've connected successfully to a WRT54G, a Belkin Pre-N, and a Belkin Pre-N running Linksys WRT54GX firmware. No problems, but then again I use only WEP (I'm not overly concerned about the security of the traffic on this particular network, hence I use WEP instead of better encryption).
It's odd that with all encryption turned off you still can't connect. You don't by chance use MAC address inclusion/exclusion do you?
Yes, I normally use MAC filtering along with WPA to only allow certain devices onto the wireless network, but I disabled the MAC filtering for the same test where I disabled the security. The stock ROM works with both WPA and MAC filtering enabled. It's quite a strange problem. I must say that I find myself wanting the features of the newer firmware so much that I'm considering just not using the wifi connection anymore...
Thanks for putting the work into packaging the new ROMs for us. Cingular sure does drag their feet releasing their own updates.
-BK
my Cingular works good with Netgear WGR614 v5 & Linksys WTR54G
I've had the same problem with the updated roms. I'm running a D-Link 614+ rev b router using MAC filtering and no encrypton. My 8125 sees the router but it can't connect. I adjusted mty power settings but still no luck. I think everyone who has this problem should list their gear here so we can figure out a way to get around this problem.
I had WPA issues connecting my 8125 with my linksys WRT54G.
I'm in the same position as summiter, I'm really not concerned about the security of my home network, so I went back to WEP - which works fine. A combination of not broadcasting the SSID, MAC filtering, and WEP seems secure enough for my purposes.
I had the same problem after I updated my 8125's ROM. After many minutes of frustration playing with settings, I unplugged the router for a couple of minutes, and then plugged it back in and my phone began to work just fine. You may want to give this a try.
CameronJ said:
I had WPA issues connecting my 8125 with my linksys WRT54G.
I'm in the same position as summiter, I'm really not concerned about the security of my home network, so I went back to WEP - which works fine. A combination of not broadcasting the SSID, MAC filtering, and WEP seems secure enough for my purposes.
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It's more a matter of security through obscurity, since there are tools to both find devices not broadcasting ssid, and for cracking the wep key in a matter of seconds or minutes. On the particular WiFi net I use I assume everyone can see it and don't use it for sensitive stuff. MAC filtering can be overcome, but it takes someone determined and knowledeable, and I don't think my neighbors or the casual wardriver fit that bill. =)
Hello All,
This sounds like their is some settongs on the phone are set wrong, try changing the select network setting on the top bar select the second set of settings witch are I belive my work network, then soft reset the phone it should work it did for me but not until the soft reset. you my want to setup the connection again and reset again after putting in the key. I do use the newest 2.17 rom as well seems to be good so far.
I also used this to trouble shoot it. http://www.htcamerica.net/support/cingular_8125.htm
great source of help.
I think it is definitely something with the 2.X ROM’s and this router. I have the same setup and can’t get anything but the original Cingular ROM to connect.
Using Summiters excellent 2.17 with WRT54G with no problems on QTEK 9100.
porky145 said:
I've had the same problem with the updated roms. I'm running a D-Link 614+ rev b router using MAC filtering and no encrypton. My 8125 sees the router but it can't connect. I adjusted mty power settings but still no luck. I think everyone who has this problem should list their gear here so we can figure out a way to get around this problem.
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summiter
I'm having the same issue, i'm acutally using the same router as the person above, it will see the router but wont connect unless i reset the router. Plus it wont connect to any hot spots that it used to when it was on the old OEM cingular rom, so it must be something with the new 2.17 Rom. Did you make any changes in the WiFi settings?
please help us, i would love to keep the new rom on my wizard, it's so much quicker and it has all the extra bells an whistles.
thanks
Chiming in...
I actually found that the WIFI works better with the latest ROM (2.17/CF2, etc.) from summiter. There were networks that I couldn't connect to to save my life... now I can get in no problem.
Sorry you guys are having problems though.
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porky145 said:
I've had the same problem with the updated roms. I'm running a D-Link 614+ rev b router using MAC filtering and no encrypton. My 8125 sees the router but it can't connect. I adjusted mty power settings but still no luck. I think everyone who has this problem should list their gear here so we can figure out a way to get around this problem.
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summiter
I'm having the same issue, i'm acutally using the same router as the person above, it will see the router but wont connect unless i reset the router. Plus it wont connect to any hot spots that it used to when it was on the old OEM cingular rom, so it must be something with the new 2.17 Rom. Did you make any changes in the WiFi settings?
please help us, i would love to keep the new rom on my wizard, it's so much quicker and it has all the extra bells an whistles.
thanks
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I can third this comment about he DLink 614+ and the DLink 524. My 8125 connects to the routers but then immediately locks up and I have to take the battery out to get it working again. I have not upgraded the firmware on either router so I might try doing that this weekend before doing anything. I know that DLink has upgraded some of ther routers due to some issue they had with NTP.
So far, I tested two routers with WPA: Linksys WTR54GS travel router and DLink DI-634M. And my workplace's wireless network using Cisco Access Points (54G) with no security (we use additional Cisco VPN in order to access network). All worked fine without issues. There are definitely changes in new wireless drivers. For one, it has a lot more parameters in registry. For two, it now supports LEAP. Thirdly, in the wireless networks window, it now shows signal strengths for each network. These are all positive improvements.
I haven't try to connect to a 11b router because I can't find one. Sounds like the issues are specific to DLink DI-614+ and the similar. If that's the case, time to get a new router. It's only $40 and you get much faster speed.
The router giving several of us problems is the Linksys WRT54GX4 SRX400, which is the latest MIMO router from Linksys...
-BK
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If that's the case, time to get a new router. It's only $40 and you get much faster speed.
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I understand what you are saying but I don't think thats the point. Replacing the router is easy, but what was changed in the rom to cause this problem. And if anyone wants to know Circuit City has G routers on sale, I got a WRT54G for about $65 out the door. But i would still like to know what caused this problem
I believe there is a difference between the network adapter driver from ROM2.17 and Cingular ROM. Anyone with network connection problem after upgrade to ROM 2.17 may want to try this:
Download and install WiFiFoFum2 from Aspecto Software, then run this program everytime you turn on wifi, it will help detect and connect to your network. I can't explain why but it works for me so I hope it would work for you too. My network is Dlink-524 with WPA enabled and MAC filtering.
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Hi, is there anyone having this issue using wifi? My linksys wag300n reboots after few minutes of use with kaiser. Linksys customer support doesn't know how to solve the problem.
I tried changing the channel but with no result. It lasts max 5' then the router reboots and the kaiser doesn't connect anymore.
Hi
If your box reboots it is a problem with your router as it is of course a security hole that could allow a denial of service attack. Your router shouldn't reboot no matter what tries to connect to it.
The Kaiser is Wi-Fi approved and has worked with no issues wherever I have tried it, as far as I can see your router isn't, this means it probably lacks the testing and interoperability of other routers that have gone through the testing procedure to get the Wi-Fi logo.
I would check for updated firmware for your router, that may help. Often disabling security and encryption will see things play a lot better together however you don't really want to do that.
You may need to get a new router for it to work reliably
Regards
Phil
The firmware is the latest, and linksys assistance is futile, suggesting channel switching and ssid renaming...
Wireless works flawlessly with a notebook, but with kaiser lasts only few minutes, and of course is NOT kaiser's fault, infact i didn't even bother contacting HTC.
ATM i think that you're right: the only solution is getting another box.
Thanks for your reply
The linksys WAG devices are a royal pain in the a.......
Switch to a better router would be my choice..... It seems unless your paying a squilian bucks for a TRUE cisco device, then Cisco stuff sucks.... However all my Cisco stuff works a treat (for the most part).
If you do go searching out a new router, and like to flash roms on more than just your phone, check out these routers at this link
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices
it's a free linux-based system that you can flash on various routers that adds tons of functionality to the device. i have the standard install of dd-wrt on a wrt54g v2 linksys router, and it works flawlessly.
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
Wow. Am I the only one on here who's having this problem?? Lucky me, I guess... :S
Anyway, I just tried connecting to a public and open wifi network here in SF, but my Kaiser still wouldn't connect. Guess that confirms it: my WiFi adapter is defective.
Anyone know if I can get it replaced in a different store from where I purchased it, and what I need to take (hope it's just the phone)?
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Wow. Am I the only one on here who's having this problem?? Lucky me, I guess... :S
Anyway, I just tried connecting to a public and open wifi network here in SF, but my Kaiser still wouldn't connect. Guess that confirms it: my WiFi adapter is defective.
Anyone know if I can get it replaced in a different store from where I purchased it, and what I need to take (hope it's just the phone)?
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just tried my wifi on the tilt ... works fine out of the box (to my home secured wireless network)
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
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This is what I did. Start->settings->connections tab->WiFI. Now you should see your routers name there with the signal bar next to it. Tap AND Hold the name, then go to settings or edit(I forget), then click NEXT, uncheck the box that says "the key is automatically provided"(thats for open access routers/networks that dont require codes). Then type in your code & make sure you specify what key # it is. click next and youre done. You should be able to connect.
silly question here. is your router broadcasting 802.11b or g? the wifi won't connect to anything else.
You might also check your AP to see if it's not broadcasting its SSID to the world (a common security setting). I couldn't connect until I enabled broadcast on my AP, set the network up, and then went back and disabled SSID broadcast.
Why in the hell this is a problem in the first place is beyond me, but this is the third smartphone/PDA with wireless that I've had to do that for. And every time, once the device found the network once, it never had a problem finding it again.
Believe me. I tried everything in the WiFi settings page. I edited the settings, removed them and added them again, and like I said before I even went and changed my security settings on my router (which to answer your question, zeta, it broadcasts in: n, g, and b. Same router worked with my Apache/XV6700).
Anyway, I stopped by the store where I bought it today and they told me that as far as he can tell, that does qualify for a replacement. The problem is they don't have any in stock to replace it with, and he has no idea when they'll be getting more in. They only received 2 on launch day, and I bought one of those. He did mention that I can get it replaced at any store, however, but they all might be in the same boat.
Guess I'll try another store tomorrow, but if not I guess I'll have to go through AT&T's tech support (don't like the sound of that) and get it replaced through them. So I guess this means I might have a few days to mess around with the phone and even try some risky thangs.
So if any of you developers and hackers, er, I mean tweakers need some1 to test something, I can be that guinea pig (for a while at least)... Just give me a shout.
To troubleshoot your wireless connection always try ruling out as many other factors as possible. So put your router to NO security (temporarily ofcourse) and have it broadcast 802.11g. Also make sure you add the mac address of your device to the list in your router, if it uses mac address filtering. Try connecting to it with a laptop and see if that goes fine. Work systematically...
PerfAlbion said:
You might also check your AP to see if it's not broadcasting its SSID to the world (a common security setting). I couldn't connect until I enabled broadcast on my AP, set the network up, and then went back and disabled SSID broadcast.
Why in the hell this is a problem in the first place is beyond me, but this is the third smartphone/PDA with wireless that I've had to do that for. And every time, once the device found the network once, it never had a problem finding it again.
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I have a similar Problem, your solution works partly for me:
As soon as I enable the AP to broadcast it's ID, Kaiser connects.
But as soon as the ID is hidden, it does not connect.
Weird.
Is it a security problem if the ID is broadcasted, provided I use WPA2-PSK/AES?
Thanks
V
No. Hiding the SSID really only protects you from folks that are wandering around without any tools. Open up a more fully featured scanner, and it'll pull the SSID out of the air. The encryption is much, much more important.
And I also wouldn't bother with MAC filtering. Changing the MAC address is usually a software setting, so it's not all that much additional security. WPA/WPA2 are much better solutions.
Yeah, the hidden SSID is not an issue with me, since I don't mind broadcasting it at home. Not too paranoid about it. If someone *really* wanted to sniff and break into my network, they could. Don't do much important and highly confidential stuff at home anyway.
Plus, like Perf mentioned, there's software out there, even for PocketPCs, that will find so-called "hidden" SSIDs. Thanks for your suggestions, anyway.
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Yeah, the hidden SSID is not an issue with me, since I don't mind broadcasting it at home. Not too paranoid about it. If someone *really* wanted to sniff and break into my network, they could. Don't do much important and highly confidential stuff at home anyway.
Plus, like Perf mentioned, there's software out there, even for PocketPCs, that will find so-called "hidden" SSIDs. Thanks for your suggestions, anyway.
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i had no issue connecting to my wrt54g running DD-WRT v23 SP2 with my SSID hidden with WEP enabled. when setting up a new connection, i just entered the name of the connection and then the WEP hex, and it connected flawlessly. Have fun hacking your phone until you can swap?
Mine is not working either. I exchanged the phone and found out that I was the 3rd person with the same problem.
BiPolarXpress said:
Mine is not working either. I exchanged the phone and found out that I was the 3rd person with the same problem.
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Glad to hear, I'm not the only one.
I exchanged my phone this morning, and I just tried connecting to my wireless network and guess what??
I'm getting the SAME RESULTS.
Now, before anyone goes and tells me that my router is the problem or that it's user error, then tell me: why does my laptop, PS3 and my Wii connect just fine?? I even changed the SSID and WPA key last night and they all connected w/o a problem as well. All except my freaking Tilt.
Can be it a coincidence that I got 2 bad phones? I don't know if I should call the store and tell them to hold up on sending the other phone to HTC.
Which reminds me, I probably should try calling HTC today, but I doubt they'll be much help...
I don't think you're nuts, and I doubt you got two bad phones. But if you want to double-check, take the phone to your local Starbucks or other shop with WiFi and see if it can detect that AP.
But at this point, I'd be inclined to look for a firmware upgrade for your AP. I could be that it's not supporting long or short preambles right (a problem for some devices in the past), doesn't like seeing more than XXX different devices, or just doesn't like your phone much.
Either way, I'm smelling an issue with your AP. I had a US Robotics AP/Router that drove me nuts because it would spontaneously reboot after a random period any time an IPSec VPN was present.
try setting the power mode on best performance. when i do that i stay connected to wifi.
I took both my old I730 and my tilt to the coffee shop before I returned my first tilt. I was able to connect my I730 at the coffee shop and home, but couldn't connect the tilt at either place. I also tried some open AP's in my neighborhood that I have been able to connect to in the past with the same results. Picky phone or bad wifi radios maybe.
Jesus... like the bloke said:
1) Turn off wpa and see if it will connect (it will unless you have set your N router to only use "n") If it won't then send it back.
2) If it does... then turn on WEP 128bit on your router... and use that instead.
WM devices have always had problems with WPA...
Hi all.
I have tried my HTC TyTN II with one Wifi LinkSys WAG54GS Router using WPA and not hidding the SSID and works fine, no problem at all.
Test with one AP from DLink at the office, using hidden SSID and WEP 64 and 128 Bits and no problem at all, works as fine as my LinkSys.
I'm going to try hidde the SSID at home with WPA and WPA2 and post the results later to know if there is a common issue with Kaiser or some freaky coincidence.
Regards.
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
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I found that I couldn't get my Kaiser to connect to my WPA encrypted LAN - open access and WEP (64 and 128 bit) work fine.
Not sure what the problem is - maybe some incompatibility between the Kaiser and my Netgear router. I've downgraded the security to 128bit WEP for the time being but I'm hoping that there's a fix soon.
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
frosted tourist said:
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
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Not true. You can use any wi-fi - just like your laptop (assuming it's unsecure or you have the security code). Is your wi-fi turned on via Comm Manager? Are you using the stock ROM or have you flashed a new one? Is your wi-fi set up correctly via Comm Manager (search for Comm Manager and WLAN setting on the forum).
frosted tourist said:
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
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I had the same problem when I got my tilt. After just fiddling around it started to work and I really didn't do much that would make a change.
Use the connection manager and try the wireless settings to make sure it sees your wireless networks.
Power it down and turn off the cell portion and just have wifi running.
I too am having problems with WIFI on my new Tilt at my home location. I have flashed the stock HTC rom (WWE rom: 1.56.405.5 / radio: 1.27.12.11) and everything on the device works perfectly. Even before that I had tried to connect using the AT&T rom, still no luck. I can get the WIFI to connect and stay active, but when I open up internet explorer or opera mini I cannot get any pages to download. I can get a connection from other places that have wifi, both secured and usecured networks and the Tilt's wifi works fine. I have other WIFI devices connected to my home wireless router and they work perfectly. I have tried playing with all the settings on the phone and even on the wireless router, still no luck.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks
I just tried your suggestion about turning off the phone side of the Tilt, and having wifi running, still no luck.
You are not alone
I had the same problem as you. I tried different configs on my router. I could not even connect to other open wifi spots. I was finally able to connect after flashing to another rom with a different radio. I have tested about five roms so far. Wifi worked most of the time. I am using Dutty's 6.1 and it is working like a champ now. It seems as though many stock Tilts have that problem.
I may be wrong, but I think I remember reading somewhere that the rom and radio version do not really effect WIFI?
I got my WIFi working! First I updated the router through Netgear. Then I went to a friends house that uses a secured router as well. Then I slid the WIFI to 'best performance'. Then I successfully connected to internet at my friends house. Then I came back home, signed in to my secured router, and voila! It works like a charm now. Pretty fast too.
BiPolarXpress said:
I had the same problem as you. I tried different configs on my router. I could not even connect to other open wifi spots. I was finally able to connect after flashing to another rom with a different radio. I have tested about five roms so far. Wifi worked most of the time. I am using Dutty's 6.1 and it is working like a champ now. It seems as though many stock Tilts have that problem.
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what radio version do you have? i have unbranded version but i still having the same problem... br
My Fix
So I had the same problem. Could not connect to home network after ROM. Go to "wireless manager" at first the icon for wifi would not allow selection. I selected bluetooth, closed it, then wifi could be selected. then select settings in wireless manager, if your network is unsecure, just next, next, finish. I was then connected. hope this helps someone out.
I've had a few problems with wi-fi. I've seemed to narrow them down to using unsecure/secure networks. I've found that my Tilt doesn't like to play well with "B" unsecure. Tested this with an older D-link, and Linksys "B" router. Haven't really had any problems with "G" networks.
frosted tourist said:
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
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Hi, I've had my Tilt for a while now, and I just updated to the new WM6.1 ROM this morning. However, after the upgrade, I could no longer get the wifi to work. I can connect to the wireless networks (tried different networks both open and secure), but when I try go to a website or use the internet, it just sits there and then says cannot connect. I have tried everything I can think of to fix the problem. I tell it to connect through work and through the internet, and messed with some other setting but that wouldn't do it. I plugged the tilt into activesync and it used the computer's connect just fine. Anyone having or had this issue, or have any suggestions?
Chris
Did you install the remove hidden proxy CAB?
If not, go here and get it:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/6996097/3f1f5d36/cabs.html
It's the removeHiddenProxy4CWS_0522 file
There may be others that do the same thing.
I installed the hidden proxy cab on my tilt, and the wi-fi still isn't working. Any other suggestions on fixing this problem. It's killing me. I though I'd be able to upgrade and reinstall all my files in just over an hour before I ran into this issue.
Update: Okay, I reverted back to the previous WM6 ROM and the wifi worked with absolutely no problem right off the bat. I don't understand what the issue could be and whether anyone else is having the problem. I'm going to try the WM6.1 ROM one more time, and then give up. I have to have wifi because I'm not willing to fork out money for a data plan. Any solutions or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
change the power mode for the wireless mode to 'Best Performance'. This worked for me. Start -> Settings -> Connections -> wireless lan -> Power mode -> Best Performance.
Work Around For Wi-Fi Problem
I have found a work around for this and have tested on my "Tilt" which works 100% for the windows mobile 6.1 rom. On your device go to start, settings, connections then click on the connection icon then manage existing connections. Create on new setting on top of Media Net settings which you will have two connections. Name it Cingular GPRS, Enter Cingular GPRS, then Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) for your modem, click next access point name wap.cingular, click next then User name [email protected], Password encrypted. The only thing you need to do is when using the internet & text messaging to have settings set on bullet mark Cingular GPRS. When using MMS only check check bullet mark for Medit Net and have proxy settings enabled at all times which will not affect your Wi-Fi connection to browser the internet once you switch back to Cingular GPRS in your settings. https://www.wireless.att.com/suppor...tutorialsCategory=MEdia+Net&tutorialId=614410
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I have found a work around for this and have tested on my "Tilt" which works 100% for the windows mobile 6.1 rom. On your device go to start, settings, connections then click on the connection icon then manage existing connections. Create on new setting on top of Media Net settings which you will have two connections. Name it Cingular GPRS, Enter Cingular GPRS, then Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) for your modem, click next access point name wap.cingular, click next then User name [email protected], Password encrypted. The only thing you need to do is when using the internet & text messaging to have settings set on bullet mark Cingular GPRS. When using MMS only check check bullet mark for Medit Net and have proxy settings enabled at all times which will not affect your Wi-Fi connection to browser the internet once you switch back to Cingular GPRS in your settings. https://www.wireless.att.com/suppor...tutorialsCategory=MEdia+Net&tutorialId=614410
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Hi, I tried you solution several times, but still could not get the problem fixed. I guess I am just resolved to going back to the WM6 ROM. Thanks for the info though.
@abhijitray: I already tried changing the power settings when I first began having problems, so that's not it.
i have the same problem with my Tilt. But i found that when i connect to my PC with the USB cable, ActiveSync is on, my IE works fine. With Wifi connection, IE is still dead.
maybe an off topic question, but what does the new rom have that the original rom that came with the tilt doesn't? anyone have a link or something, or is it something like better batter performance? thx
i have tilt with the latest official WM6.1 ROM, and have no issues with Wifi.
Ok - here's my story.
I had a default WM 6.0 Official ROM Tilt and upgraded to ATT's 6.1. Immediately my WiFi stopped working. I waited for updates on this thread, and with my temper rising at such a poor release, I decided to go to Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid. Same thing - Wi-Fi didn't work. (To qualify, it would connect and get an IP address, but any attempt to access the net - ping, ftp, Gmaps, Activesync - would fail) I upgraded to the latest eMo radio and still didn't work. I scratched my head and decided to check my router. It's an older D-Link 802.11b and sadly the last firmware was released in 2005. I changed the settings on it to not use Turbo mode and voila, it connected. All happy and such.
But now the problem is slightly different. It will connect once, but after it disconnects (either because I manually turned off WiFi on the phone or the phone entered Standby mode) I cannot connect again. I literally have to reboot my router. This is great a home, but I worry when I have to use a public wifi hotspot. Any thoughts on that?
And yes, I have played around with the power settings.
Kojak
another thing I have noticed on my router is that my Tilt is not sending a hostname along with the DHCP request. Could that be the issue on the WiFi connection? I am wondering if that confuses the router.
Tom
I have the same problem too. tytn II with latest rom. At home with my old linksys which is a 802.11b device. If i disconnect wifi and then try to connect - the phone say - Unavailable. I notice that if i change the channel the phone connect just fine.... very strange
ps. sorry for my bad eng.
pasole said:
I have the same problem too. tytn II with latest rom. At home with my old linksys which is a 802.11b device. If i disconnect wifi and then try to connect - the phone say - Unavailable. I notice that if i change the channel the phone connect just fine.... very strange
ps. sorry for my bad eng.
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I see the same here - I think that by changing the channel it reboots/resets the router and allows you to try again.
ps. don't worry about your english. If this board was in a different language, I am sure that most people here would not even be able to post a thing.
kojak_nyc said:
Ok - here's my story.
I had a default WM 6.0 Official ROM Tilt and upgraded to ATT's 6.1. Immediately my WiFi stopped working. I waited for updates on this thread, and with my temper rising at such a poor release, I decided to go to Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid. Same thing - Wi-Fi didn't work. (To qualify, it would connect and get an IP address, but any attempt to access the net - ping, ftp, Gmaps, Activesync - would fail) I upgraded to the latest eMo radio and still didn't work. I scratched my head and decided to check my router. It's an older D-Link 802.11b and sadly the last firmware was released in 2005. I changed the settings on it to not use Turbo mode and voila, it connected. All happy and such.
But now the problem is slightly different. It will connect once, but after it disconnects (either because I manually turned off WiFi on the phone or the phone entered Standby mode) I cannot connect again. I literally have to reboot my router. This is great a home, but I worry when I have to use a public wifi hotspot. Any thoughts on that?
And yes, I have played around with the power settings.
Kojak
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Well, your problem sounds exactly the same as mine (WM6.1 official). Maybe I should have tried a public hotspot, but it just wouldn't work on my home network (I even cut off the encryption and made it open). I downgraded back to WM6 ROM and everything working fine, so I guess no WM6.1 for me.
It is definite a router by router problem. Had problems with the D-Link but I tried it on a Buffalo 802.11g router running Tomato firmware, and I had absolutely no problems. That being said, this could be either a:
802.11b problem?
D-Link problem?
Something must have changed in the WM 6.1 code from WM6.0 as it pertains to WiFi. If only it was as easy as a toggle setting to fix.
For me, it was the opposite. I could get WiFi to work at my office on Mobile 6.0, but I couldn't get my network at home to work. I have a Wireless-N network at home, and even though I set it to B-G only mode, it still wouldn't connect. As soon as I hit WM6.1, everything was fine.
Unfortunately, this happens more than one would think with Wireless network equipment.
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It is definite a router by router problem. Had problems with the D-Link but I tried it on a Buffalo 802.11g router running Tomato firmware, and I had absolutely no problems. That being said, this could be either a:
802.11b problem?
D-Link problem?
Something must have changed in the WM 6.1 code from WM6.0 as it pertains to WiFi. If only it was as easy as a toggle setting to fix.
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Kojak_nyc,
You hit it on the head. It is a router issue, although its not limited to the D-Link router because I have a 2wire HomePortal 1000HW and it also doesn't work. It is also on 802.11b, so that could also be the issue. Something must have changed between in the settings the WM6 and the WM6.1 upgrade. I'll go ahead an inform HTC of the issue (not that they'll do anything).
I believe that the once the tilt is updated to WM6.1, it no longer works on IEEE 802.11b.
I think this is a Dlink issue. I've got a linksys router at home and it connects to that fairly quickly. ssid on that isn't hidden cuz i've got vista machines that have a hard time connecting.
anyway, at work i've got a dlink di624, 802.11g, router and i've not been able to connect the kaiser to it. i think tomorrow i'll do what was suggested and just play around with the channels and find which works. the dlink's set to automatically choose the channel it uses so i'll hard code it for a channel i know the kaiser'll scan for and then see what happens.
if it doesn't work i'll juts keep using the 3g connection... i do have 6GB/mo and haven't come anywhere near using it up.
Experienced similar problem just now. I just upgraded to WM 6.1 and my WiFi connection's been unstable since last night. I have a wireless router with excellent signal on my room and enjoys streaming video before I upgraded to WM 6.1. When I reset the phone it restored WiFi connection again.
Hope you could share some tweaks to resolve this problem.
Thanks.
I've been running 6.1 ROM (Official) now for a month or so and am using a program on my Tilt that uses a lot of data...so while I'm at home I thought I would allow it to use my WiFi router instead of my 3G connection.
I turned on the WiFi and it can "see" my router's SSID. I enter the WPA-TKIP passcode and tell it to connect. It just sits there saying "connecting to network" but never completes the connection to acquire it's IP.
I have even gone as far as setting the IP configuration manually (Static IP) and the TILT keeps trying to connect to the network.
I have a DLink DI-624 that I have had no problems connecting the WiFi when I was running ROM 6.0.
I have done the following in trying to troubleshoot:
- Turned OFF Turbo on the Router
- Configured router for AutoChannel
- Configured TILT for Best Performance
- Rebooted Router AND TILT.
Still no go...Ideas?
I sometimes get this after flashing a new rom. It seems to affect the way it connects to WPA networks but not WEP or unsecured.
You can try changing your security to WEP and see if that works.
But when I need to solve this I usually have to do a Hard Reset and then connect the WIFI first. When it does this the phone seems to be able to auto-detect the network type (i.e without me needing to select it as WPA) and after entering the passcode it can connect.
Yep, go to WEP, this should be enough for most people and has never given me a problem.
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Yep, go to WEP, this should be enough for most people and has never given me a problem.
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Unfortunately I can't change my network to WEP. My network is not only my home network but also used for my wife's business...so for security reasons I have to keep the security up.
Drop the security just for a test and see what happens.
I am using the official ATT 6.1 ROM and it works just fine on my wifi, first with WPA-PSK then with WPA2-PSK. You could set your WAP to WEP (say that fast 3 times!) for a 5 minute test and see if it connects. Does your phone connect to other Wifi hot spots? What does ministumbler say about wifi in your area? You may have some interference with a neighbors wifi.
Well...I know that my issue is not limited to my router at home (DLink DI-624). I'm experiencing the SAME issues at work as well.
At work I'm using a NetGear WGT624 v3.
- The security is WPA-PSK (TKIP)...just like at home.
- Broadcasting SSID on Channel 11 (Fixed). There are no routers in nearby offices (I've checked using a wifi scanner on my laptop).
- I've configured a static IP in my Tilt and it just sits there at Connecting...again same as what happens at my house.
- I have also tried using DHCP with no joy.
I'll try the WEP at home to see if it's a WEP/WPA issue.
Unfortunately if it IS an issue...I don't think I'm going to get much joy from HTC on releasing a fix. Maybe there will be some way around it though...I hope!
Make sure you use the correct authentication: Use Smart Card or Certificate. That fixed mine
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Make sure you use the correct authentication: Use Smart Card or Certificate. That fixed mine
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Here is what I have set in my TILT...
Connects to: The Internet
Hidden network: NOT checked
Ad-Hoc: Unselectable (Grey)
Auth: WPA-PSK
Encry: TKIP
Use IEEE: Grey (Non-Selectable)
EAP: Grey (Non-Selectable...but Smartcard or Certificate IS in the box)
(Still at work...will test WEP when I get home)
(I'm home)
Ok...Now I know for SURE that this is a WPA issue with the TILT running the AT&T ROM 6.1 (Official).
I changed my home router from WPA-PSK (TKIP) to WEP.
Made the needed changes in my TILT to change it from WPA to WEP and entered the correct key.
* IT CONNECTED TO THE ROUTER! Whoo Hoo.
I change nothing in the router except from WEP back to WPA and again I'm stuck at "connecting" on the TILT.
Ideas?
At least you know
And Knowing Is Half The Battle
clstan said:
(I'm home)
Ok...Now I know for SURE that this is a WPA issue with the TILT running the AT&T ROM 6.1 (Official).
I changed my home router from WPA-PSK (TKIP) to WEP.
Made the needed changes in my TILT to change it from WPA to WEP and entered the correct key.
* IT CONNECTED TO THE ROUTER! Whoo Hoo.
I change nothing in the router except from WEP back to WPA and again I'm stuck at "connecting" on the TILT.
Ideas?
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Is a backing up everything and doing a hard reset too much hassle? Make sure you connect to a WPA Wifi first before installing any other programs. Its the only way I could fix it... =/ As recommended I always do another hard reset straight after flashing a new rom now.
Hey...someone...somewhere has mentioned that there might be a WPA issue in relation to removing the AT&T Bloat. Is there anything to this? I HAVE removed my bloat on my Tilt.
I don't want to have to re-Hard my Tilt...but will if I have to...but only as last resort.
What fixed with my DI-624
I found that I had to upgrade to the newest ROM from D-Link. (I had original ROM from 5 years ago.) I found that the PSK password (using WPA2) could NOT contains shift-numbers such as $, %, #. I converted the symbols to numbers (and letters)and it works fine now. I have had no problems since.
segaza said:
I found that I had to upgrade to the newest ROM from D-Link. (I had original ROM from 5 years ago.) I found that the PSK password (using WPA2) could NOT contains shift-numbers such as $, %, #. I converted the symbols to numbers (and letters)and it works fine now. I have had no problems since.
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My home router is a DI-624 Rev E. The ONLY Firmware for the E Rev is 5.00 and I'm running it.
Even though not completely secure...my WPA password is a 20 character, lower case entry...no strange characters or whatever.
*Well folks...I had just installed the 6.1 Rom onto my Tilt about a month ago...so I don't have that much installed...and I can always reload it. So I HardReset and followed by removing bloat. WPA WORKS NOW! (Insert "Twilight Zone" theme music here.)
All in all...it just seems strange to have to HARD Reset my phone to get something like this to work again.