Just a quick note looking to see if anyone else is having the same problems that I've been having the last 24 hours.
I've had my 8125 about 3 weeks - and in that time have successfully upgraded to various summiter AKU2 ROMs. Last night my IT department pushed out a Goodlink policy update requiring passwords on all handhelds. Of course this is a pain in the ass, but I understand the issues and don't really have a problem with this policy.
However, there is a serious issue with the goodlink password requirement and AKU2 - basically they don't seem to work together. Immediately after having the policy pushed to me, the first time I did a soft reset I ended up with a blank white screen, with the task bar on top. The left side of the task bar would quickly flash "password" and then change to "Start" (w/ no start logo) and that was it... Nothing... Soft reset - same problem. The only thing that brought the device back was a hard reset, but once I reloaded goodlink and re-entered the password I was back in the same place.
After pulling my hair out for most of the night (it's not good to go to sleep at 3:00am when you have a client board meeting at 8:30am), I decided on my way to the airport that I would try loading the original Cingular ROM back. Surprise surprise, that worked (sort of - additional details below). After spending a lot of time trying out different solutions today, I've come to the conclusion that goodlink passwords only work with the original Cingular ROM - I don't know if it's a problem with AKU2 or a problem with the customizations.
Anyone else with this issue? I'm currently running goodlink 4.7, I'm wondering if 4.8 will fix any of these problems, I just can't find an OTA link for 4.8 and the cab from goodlink doesn't install correctly.
Additional problems - Even with the original ROM, there are some conflicts with the goodlink password. If I have certain shortcuts in the startup folder (at this point I think its AEBPlus and PQZII), the device freezes immediately after entering the password. After soft-resetting, I can explore the device from my PC while it's waiting for a password and delete the offending shortcuts, soft-reset again, and then I'm back in business.
I just posted the same problem earlier today. I have been using the latest Goodlink 4.8 build and have the same problem with AKU2. White screen of death with the status line showing at the top. My IT department turned off the password requirement for me. That seems the only way to fix it so far. I guess this is one reason Cingular has not released new firmware yet.
Ira
well - it's nice to know I'm not the only one.
Unfortunately my company doesn't officially support goodlink on an Windows Mobile devices - only the Treo 650. Given the fact that the device isn't supported AND I'm using a hacked ROM, I can just imagine the laughs they'll have at my expense.
At this point I'll just hang out and wait to see what happens.
I wonder if this is why Palm pulled the AKU2 update for the Treo 700w? Supposedly it was due to a compression issue, but who really knows? I'm posting a message on on treocentral, as there's a Good rep who monitors that board.
just curious.. does your it dept use the remote erase function on the backend?
i believe we do thus we do not require password protect on goodlink...
good to know i shouldn't have probs w/ it on the treo700w since i gotta setup one on fri..
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just curious.. does your it dept use the remote erase function on the backend?
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We do, but I work for a company that has become very, very, very conscious of protecting client data - with a couple of in-the-news issues (one moron left a cd with client employee data on a plane). They pushed the password requirement out to blackberries last week, and Goodlink devices this week.
Yes Ive had the same problem for last 2 weeks with both mini s and sp5 and goodlink.
Ive just updated goodlink to 4.8 and all seems to be fine.
Ive only just updated to 4.8 today but so far so good.
Update
I had some free time on my hands to tinker tonight - so I decided to see if I could test 4.8 with and AKU2 ROM.
Since my company hasn't rolled 4.8 out yet, I had to basically hack it in, which involved extracting the files from the 4.8 desktop installer from the goodlink website and copying those over my existing goodlink backup on the storage card (after copying the originals somewhere else of course).
I'm happy to report that, as of right now, the issue does seem to be resolved. It does look like 4.7 isn't compatible with AKU2 (if you use passwords) - so if this situation applies to you (on 4.7, using passwords) you shouldn't upgrade to an AKU2 ROM.
4.8 still does not work for me
I initially loaded goodlink 4.8 and had the password problem with the 2.17 rom. I have given up and am using the stock firmware until there is an official cingular update.
glad to hear others are having better luck.
ira
I had the same problem with GoodLink 4.7 and the new version 2.x ROMs on my Qtek 9100. I ended up downgrading to version 1.x ROMs (Button 1.5.4.2 WWE works fine with GoodLink 4.7.
aku2, goodlink 4.7/4.8, cingular 8125, and password policy
Thanks to CameronJ on his post. I was in the same boat, i.e. Going along fine on my Cingular 8125 with the released ROM when my company rolled out a password policy on Goodlink version 4.7. On the released ROM I started having unreliable service (disconnects almost continuously). I finally upgraded to AKU2 before seeing this thread (thanks Summiter for the great AKU2 build). However at that point I hit the consistent White Password Screen of Death as soon as I reinstalled my backup of Goodlink 4.7 and the policy was enforced.
However CameronJ's 4.8 suggestion was perfect. I too couldnt do a normal upgrade but by downloading 4.8 from Good and then copying the entire directory from the Pocket PC 2005/4.8/EN/ directory into my backup directory, I was back up and running with no problems. (this of course ignores all my false starts and problems). Dont use the Smartphone files as those wont work.
I was on the verge of giving up. Thanks for this thread.
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After playing around a bit in the registry the last week, I also found how to have a password that violates my organization's password policies. While I understand the reasoning behind having a password, the 30 minute timeout (which is the max my organization lets me set) is way too short. It looks like the goodlink password parameters work in the following way:
- Password policies are passed down through GoodLink and stored in the registry in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\GoodLink\Password. There are a number of keys here, including ITLockedTime, ITLocked, ITPasswordMinLength, and a few others.
- When you go into the Lock/Password settings, the control panel settings dialog pulls from these registry keys to determine if your password meets policy.
- After a short period of time, any changes to these registry keys get overwritten back to corporate policy, however, nothing ever checks your password (as long as you don't go back into the Lock control panel extension) to make sure it complies with policy.
Basically, this means that you can change the key for minimum length or timeout and then go into the Lock control panel extension and change your password. I currently have a 1 character password set to timeout every 24 hours (instead of 6 characters that times out in 30 minutes). I've been running this way for about 4 days now, and even though the registry keys are back to policy, my reduced security password is still in force.
ITPasswordMinLength is self explanatory - change this to however many characters you want as your minimum.
ITLockedTime is a little more obscure. The decimal value here corresponds to the number of items in the list of timeout values in the timeout dropdown. 1 means only one item will show up (which is 0 minutes), I think 11 is 24 hours.
ITLocked - I'm guessing that if you set this to 0 it doesn't check these parameters at all, which means you might be able to disable the password. I haven't played with this one yet.
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ITLocked - I'm guessing that if you set this to 0 it doesn't check these parameters at all, which means you might be able to disable the password. I haven't played with this one yet.
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Wow, I've been looking for this kind of hack for awhile. I'm going mad with the couple minute forced timeout/lock policy I'm forced to live with. Imagine trying to use your pocket pc as a GPS device and it locking every couple minutes! (totally sucks)
Do you know if it's possible to do what did in a normal AKU2 MS Push Mail system? (I dont use goodlink, just regular microsoft push)
Which reg keys do I mess with?
How do you keep the changes from being detected/overwritten?
Thanks!
Any update on rather this has been addressed in a more recent ROM (AKU 2.3?). I am looking to start my company's Goodlink trial program and currently have 2.17. Thanks!
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ITLocked - I'm guessing that if you set this to 0 it doesn't check these parameters at all, which means you might be able to disable the password. I haven't played with this one yet.
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An update - this is the best way to go. Set ITLocked to 0, go into the password control panel applet and uncheck the password box. No more password requirement.
caiken said:
Any update on rather this has been addressed in a more recent ROM (AKU 2.3?). I am looking to start my company's Goodlink trial program and currently have 2.17. Thanks!
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As long as you are using the most recent version of the goodlink client (4.8 ) you will be fine. The issue is with the previous version of the client (4.7).
I had no problem with this nasty password bug when I upgraded to AKU 2.3. I'm using Goodlink 4.8.
Ira
irablumberg said:
I had no problem with this nasty password bug when I upgraded to AKU 2.3. I'm using Goodlink 4.8.
Ira
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This problem only exists with AKU2+ ROMs and GoodLink 4.7 - not 4.8
CameronJ said:
irablumberg said:
I had no problem with this nasty password bug when I upgraded to AKU 2.3. I'm using Goodlink 4.8.
Ira
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This problem only exists with AKU2+ ROMs and GoodLink 4.7 - not 4.8
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Thanks for the update guys. I'm assuming the "Get Good" link now downloads 4.8.
CameronJ,
You wrote:
An update - this is the best way to go. Set ITLocked to 0, go into the password control panel applet and uncheck the password box. No more password requirement.
Can you elaborate on this process? Where do I find the password control panel applet?
gaelen00 said:
CameronJ,
You wrote:
An update - this is the best way to go. Set ITLocked to 0, go into the password control panel applet and uncheck the password box. No more password requirement.
Can you elaborate on this process? Where do I find the password control panel applet?
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Also, it appears that any changes that I make to the Good settings in the registry are over-written the very next time it syncs with the Good server. Anyone know how I can lock the registry settings that I set in addition to how I remove the requirement for the Good password controlled by my IT dept.
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When I try to connect to the Goodlink server (corp email) with WM6, it says that my device is not supported at this time.
Do you guys know if Good Link is supported on WM6? If so, is there a special installer somewhere that is not on the Good Link website? If there is not, is there something I can do to make Good Link think it is on a WM5 OS?
Thanks for any help !!!
Does anyone have any more info on this issue?
We are experiencing some issues with WM6 and getting GoodLink on it.
One person was able to get GoogLink to work by doing a restore using a 3rd party app. But new installations of Good do not allow it to be installed because it does not recognize the handheld (OS, i'm sure).
Anyone know if there is a workaround? Registry tweak? Or just wait for a new version of Good to be released by Motorola-Good that supports WM6?
BTW, although its the same issue, were talking about WM6 on the HERMES device.
"One person was able to get GoodLink to work by doing a restore using a 3rd party app. But new installations of Good do not allow it to be installed because it does not recognize the handheld (OS, i'm sure)."
Hold on, how did this person do that? And we are talking about on WM6, right? Can you direct me to the thread or give me directions, please?
Yes, this is on WM6 and HTC HERMES, like I said in my post. The BACKUP was done while the phone still had WM5 and the RESTORE was done while the phone had WM6.
As far as what app was used, I do not know, I believe it was some 3rd party app that backs up and restores your apps/data, look around in the forums.
I tried the 'dirty fix'. Wow, when they said dirty, they meant it !!! the phone crashes every other second and you get error messages and freezes with every button you hit. I'll remember your user name and will pm you if I ever find a fix or see goodlink for wm6. Please do the same
Motorola-Good released version 4.9.3 (which according to an email from a Good rep, is supposed to support WM6)
I downloaded it but am still having trouble getting it to install on WM6.
I'm posting the link to Good 4.9.3 in case anyone would like to see if they can figure it out.
http://customerportal.good.com/techSupport.php?id=70
Use the last download button on the page, the SD installation version. The others are for the server.
did I miss something? i dont see where it says it supports wm6.
Edit: okay, I read slow. Never mind...a rep said this via email. I'll try it again
Same here on 8525 Cingular, I tried the GetGoodLinkPPC2005.cab & GLPackage2005.cab with no luck, when it does the Over the air setup it comes up with the error that its not compatible with the OS
UPDATE: For those that want to upgrade to WM6 and need to run GoodLink YOU MUST FIRST DO A GoodLink Backup from the Good Options on WM5!!, do it on the memory card and after you upgrade to WM6 you will find a file on the root of the card to restore GoodLink, what i do is connect to my wifi at home first then i do the update and IT WORKS I now have WM6 and GoodLink Good Mobile Messaging v4.9.2.30_EN on my 8525
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UPDATE: For those that want to upgrade to WM6 and need to run GoodLink YOU MUST FIRST DO A GoodLink Backup from the Good Options on WM5!!, do it on the memory card and after you upgrade to WM6 you will find a file on the root of the card to restore GoodLink, what i do is connect to my wifi at home first then i do the update and IT WORKS I now have WM6 and GoodLink Good Mobile Messaging v4.9.2.30_EN on my 8525
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I can confirm that this does indeed work with my 8525. However, I am experiencing delays in receiving emails on wm6. Sometimes they take 1 minute or less to arrive, other times they can take several minutes. This is a huge problem considering my organization pays to have no-latency email.
Uh oh... I think I found a deal breaker. I'm not receiving ANY mails, or seeing old mails, in subdirs.
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I can confirm that this does indeed work with my 8525. However, I am experiencing delays in receiving emails on wm6. Sometimes they take 1 minute or less to arrive, other times they can take several minutes. This is a huge problem considering my organization pays to have no-latency email.
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I was having delays on WM5 so this is no news to me, not all the time but i did notice it, cant say the same for WM6 yet, overall it runs great, and much faster.
I'm curious what others have to say. Goodlink was so sluggish that I actually had to revert to WM5. I wasn't receiving mails that were automatically pushed to subdirs by Exchange rules and emails that did come in were coming in extremely sporadically.
It runs 100% on mine, no lag or delays here, it seems faster then on WM5 and this might be due to the fact that the OS is so much faster....
Goodlink working with WM6 & Wizard 8125
I did a backup in WM5 and did a restore after WM6 ROM Update. It works like a charm. My only problem now is that it did not make Goodlink contacts as the default one so I'm not getting any contacts in the phone dialer. I think I'm still using the v4.8.1.14_EN.
Just a quick note from a Hermes/8525 user ... Goodlink is working fine on all of the cooked WM6 Roms that are floating around for that device ... most of us first (in WM5) did a goodlink backup to the SD card, then we were able to "restore from backup" once WM6 was installed, without a problem. Known isssues at the moment once you have it up and running are:
No full integration with Dialer (the contacts button now reverts to outlook contacts, not goodlink contacts)
Auto Complete feature in WM6 does not work correctly within Goodlink Apps
Otherwise, seems to be working fine ... and just as fast as before (I still get my goodlink emails faster than I get them on my desktop computer in my office)
Good on WM6
Good version 4.9.3.34 and above will run on most WM6 devices. However, only your administrator can push this out to you via the Good Management Console (you can't control what version you get) so you will need to persuade whoever runs your Good server to push the very latest version. It doesn't matter what OTASetup file you get, it is always the Good server that decides what client build you get.
If you are getting the 'Device not supported' message then chances are your Good Admin is _not_ pushing the latest 4.9.3.34 or above version to your device. If you are getting a different message about the serial number, IMSI, etc. then it may be your device will just not run it.
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For Good Admins:
In order to push the latest client you can simply change the version of the client you are deploying by:
1. Opening the Management Console
2. Clicking on the User Groups folder (in the left hand pane)
3. Right clicking on the ‘All Users’ group (for example)
4. Choosing ‘Manage Group’ from the drop down.
5. Clicking on the ‘Edit Group Software…’ button
6. Selecting ‘Windows Mobile 5.0 PocketPC’ in the top dropdown
7. Choose the latest version of the client available in the middle window (you may need to scroll up)
8. Select ‘Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone’ in the top drop-down
9. Repeat step 7
Hope this helps!
Kitt.
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Sluggish mail with Good
klasikahl said:
I'm curious what others have to say. Goodlink was so sluggish that I actually had to revert to WM5. I wasn't receiving mails that were automatically pushed to subdirs by Exchange rules and emails that did come in were coming in extremely sporadically.
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This is almost certainly an issue on the server side, not the device. You should speak to your Good Admin and check what the link is like between the Good Server and the Exchange Server.
Also make sure that if they have any software running in the background on the Good Server such as antivirus or backup that it excludes the 'Cache' and 'Logs' Good directories.
(Or get him to phone Good Support for a health check on the server ).
Thanks,
Kitt.
Okay, I think I got this to work without going through your admin... For those of you that didn't think to do a backup before upgrading and do not want to upgrade again, follow these steps:
1: Download http://customerportal.good.com/download/sdcard_4_9_3.exe
2: Extract.
3: Copy GetGoodLinkPPC2005.cab and GLPackage2005.cab from PPC_WM5.0/EN folder to your phone.
4: Run GetGoodLinkPPC2005.cab. This will take you through the standard OTA setup that you are used to.
5: Enter your e-mail and PIN as normal. Once it restarts, you should get the "Launcher executable was not found -8" error.
6: Run GLPackage2005.cab, ignore any errors.
7: Open File Explorer.
8: Go to \Program Files\GoodLink.
9: Run GoodApp (It's a 4.75 meg executable). This will create a new subfolder called GoodLink.
10: Now run GLLauncher from \Program Files\GoodLink.
You may have to hit OK a few times on an error that says "Could not autolaunch Goodlink", but with any luck this will work for you. It did work for me. The only reason I'm not guaranteeing the 10 steps above is because I clicked on things like a crazy person for about 10 minutes before I got it to work. However, the logic is sound. Basically, you're letting OTA push whatever your company specifies then you're installing the new, WM6 compatible version over it.
Hope this helps! It's working perfectly for me!!!
I have not found any threads regarding this so I went ahead and bit the bullet and tried on my GoodLink server. Initially disappointed because my server was setup to send the last ver 4 GoodLink software to the Kaiser. After upgrading then to ver 5 the phone portion of the device would not work no matter what I did. GoodLink seemed to work but the phone wouldn't. I then uninstalled GoodLink via the remove programs (now GoodLink does not require hard reset to get rid of it).
I waited 24 hours (chicken). I then made sure that ver 5 was pushed to the device initially - viola - seems to work great now after 24 hours. No slowing of the device as was the case with other lesser devices (memory and processor speed!).
So far I believe that for those who want GoodLink and PPC the Kaiser may be the best device so far! I'll keep you updated as to any glitches that come up. I fully recognize that with some of the improvements to Pocket Outlook and with always on active sync GoodLink is not as needed as it was before but there are still some "closer to desktop Outlook" advantages for business users.
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So far I believe that for those who want GoodLink and PPC the Kaiser may be the best device so far! I'll keep you updated as to any glitches that come up.
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So - I binned Goodlink some time ago on the Co HP device and opted for a phone the performance was so bad. Based on your recommendation I might try it again. Where can I get the latest CAB? Will my old account registration work on the TyTN - or do I have to go back to the IS dept for another "key" to get setup?
Thx
Graham
The IT dept has to enable the version 5 for your device. In my case I have my own GoodLink server and I tried to install via a cab file and it didn't work for some reason. So I went back to the OTA setup. Just call the IT dept and ask them to enable the version 5 for your device (that is assuming they have upgraded their server yet) and resend you a PIN email. It is three or four mouse clicks so don't let them act like it is much trouble!
If you don't get ver 5 right off the bat then uninstall it don;t go any further because it didn;t work for me to "upgrade" ver 4 to 5!
how much better is it than 4.93? i find it a little buggy and i still need to activesync my calendar and contacts for other Hpone related items.
Goodlink
Goodlink 4.9.3.21 works like a charm, syncs mail, calendar, notes, tasks, the works and it's fast too. Not sure why yours would be 'buggy'; mine works like a charm without failure.
My $0.02
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how much better is it than 4.93? i find it a little buggy and i still need to activesync my calendar and contacts for other Hpone related items.
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There are definitely some improvements with ver 5 -- one thing to know (I have another post somewhere else) is that you need to prepare for the fact that there is integration with the native contact list and GoodLink. In other words if you still use Active Sync (like via a server) you will get duplicate contacts. The IT person for the GoodLink server has a setting to choose what parts of you contact list will get sync'd with the native contact list for "use with voice dialing" etc (as per GoodLink's literature), i.e, Last, First, work, home, fax, email. Once you figure out what is going on it is actually better because the native contact list takes up less space because you can pick and choose (the IT GoodLink admin guy) what is sync'd.
All the while the GoodLink Calendar list , of course, gets fully sync's as it is designed to do.
[Interestingly with vers 5 server and ver 5 on the device the GoodLink admin person can actually "dis-allow" the use of any particular application on your device. Every program you have on your device shows up on the GoodLink Mangemenet Console. It's pretty cool -- that is if you have access to the server!!!]
If you have question just ask and I'll try to answer them since I have my own server
PS as far as the duplicate contact thing you need to use PPContactsMgr and delete ALL of your native contacts, then tell active sync NOT to sync contacts and then let GoodLink do its thing as far as syncing the selected fields of you native contact list.
PSS I really like using GoodLink so far -- with it's limited syncing of the native contacts list which then work NICELY with PocketCM to make calls text msgs etc
A bunch of GOOKS...
Check out http://www.frontpages-web-hosting.net/exchange-hosting/goodlink.asp
(read the second paragraph title that's in orange)
...it's justification why good Quality Control is important !!
i dont have access to the server. so that means my IT can see ALL the apps that areon my device and control what I can / cannot use?
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i dont have access to the server. so that means my IT can see ALL the apps that areon my device and control what I can / cannot use?
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Iten I was browsing sure does. I was really surprised when I was browsing my new management console for ver 5 and click on a tab that took a minute or two to respond (I didn't know at the time but it was retrieving from my device) and then showed my applications on my device and gave options for which to allow and which to disallow!!
I didn't want to mess anything up so I didn't experiment.
technillion said:
Check out http://www.frontpages-web-hosting.net/exchange-hosting/goodlink.asp
(read the second paragraph title that's in orange)
...it's justification why good Quality Control is important !!
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That's pretty funny. I can think of a lot of potentially offensive comments about the advertisement but I will use better judgement ............
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The IT dept has to enable the version 5 for your device.
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I tried the OTA setup and it gave me version 6(!).. Needless to say my old PIN wasn't valid - and the IT dept wouldn't enable it for me. They said "can't use none approved devices on Company networks".. so I can't use my TyTNII with Goodlink. I think the PIN was for v5.. but I don't see how to get the v5 CAB
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Graham
Hi all:
Just picked up my first WM device (Tilt) the other day. I'm have a problem turning off the password function on the device. I set it the other day and now it just getting to be a pain entering a password for wife any time she wants to use the phone.
Right now, the "Prompt if device used for" checkbox is greyed out so I cannot de-select it. the longest I can set the time limit for it one hour.
Thanks for any help,
Lost in Alabama
Sounds to me like you're connecting to an Exchange server that has this set as a policy, which shuts down your ability to turn it off. Are you syncing data with Exchange?
That's correct. I have since deleted my sync connection to my Exchange server at work.
thanks for any suggestions.
After some searching, looks like a way to remove the security policy would be to issue a remote wipe of my device from our Exchange Admin team. Would like avoid getting those admin guys involved if possible.
Maybe a hard reset? Seems drastic but that might be what's needed.
i did have the same problem, the only way is to hard reset your phone.
And then you wont be able to sync with the company server...
I would just petition them to increase the default time before the lock is applied.
(Having said that I have mine set to every five mins and thus have to enter the pin quite often- but I like the idea that its secure)
I have the same problem but i have set time after device wants password to 24 hours, so i never have to enter the password besides of booting up the device.
There is a program you can install that allows you to remove the security password policy on wm phones even while still synced with the exchange server. Zenyee.com Stay Unlock is the name of the program. I can't remember where to get it though. I just checked the Zenyee site and due to it's lack of a search feature I can't seem to find it again.
Found some other discussion on this elsewhere on the forums. Here is a link to a post by coderuckus talking about changing registry settings to circumvent the policy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1367367&postcount=1
going to fiddle with that later today and report back my findings.
I had the same problem - install the cab from the following thread and you'll be fine : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329570&highlight=Zenyee
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I had the same problem - install the cab from the following thread and you'll be fine : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329570&highlight=Zenyee
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Jackpot! Thanks Zerodivider.
As info the directions from Coderuckus works to disable the security policy but it invalidates the sync'ability back to Exchange (at least in my case).
Directions below:
using a device registry editor (remote, or PHM) modify the following key(s)
The Exchange Security Policy (4131) updates the device policy:
HKLM\Security\Policies\00001023: 0 = Enabled; 1 = Disabled
Thanks for the help everybody!
Essential processes for AT&T Tilt Users after each rom flash
I know this has been mentioned thousands of times throughout this forum yet n00bs often need assistance fixing their hardware keyboards, email, HTC weather, quick gps, and so on after they flash a new rom for the first time.
While hanging out in Bansville for a couple of days I realized I have been answering the same questions continuously. This is a mini text tutorial, which offers simple fixes for imperative AT&T settings.
So you installed a version of hardspl, flashed a new rom, and performed a hard reset. What next? Well primarily in all probability, you want to make sure the clock settings are in am and pm format and the date is set to m/d/y. To change your clock settings follow this navigation
Start>settings>system>regional settings>time tab>time style drop down set to h:mm:ss tt
To change your date setting:
Start>settings>system>regional setting>date tab> select the date style of your choosing and select ok.
Next, I like to restore my files such as my appointments, contacts, text messages, etc. I personally prefer to use PimBackup. Below is a .zip file for PPCPimBackup. It is an uncomplicated program to use and a lecture is unnecessary to navigate throughout this application, as it is straightforward.
After I restore my files, it is time to inaugurate the Tilt keyboard fix, which repairs your slide-out QWERTY keys to be mapped correctly. For example, without this fix Fn+W will appear as ! opposed to @. Below is the cab file you need to install to remap the keys appropriately. Following the installation of this cab file, perform a soft reset.
The next thing I usually do is correct my connection settings. First, I install ATT_Settings.cab, which you can find below. Then I navigate to the following:
Start>settings>connections>connections>select the advanced tab>select networks>Change both drop downs to Media Net> select edit on both drop downs>proxy settings tab>uncheck everything for both media nets that you changed>then hit ok or x when you are finished.
At this time, I set up my email. However, remember NOT to save your password, you will do this in the following step. If you are using HTC HOME, most likely you are, select the little envelope and create a new account. You can find your email settings by using google if you are using pop3 or whatever.
Next, after I set up my email without saving the password, I install removehiddenproxy.cab, which you can find below. This cab file is important as it allows your pop3 email account’s password to save without adding extra characters, allows for your quickgps to function properly each time, and it also allows you to use HTC Home Weather without getting a connection failure. So install this cab then go back to the email you just set up, edit the account setup, enter your password, and save it. Now, go back to your today screen and tap your weather tab. Now tap Select City and select your city (*Note there are a few patches available to select your town if you do not live in a big city). Anyhow, notice the menu button where your right softkey is, select menu and turn your temperature scale to Fahrenheit and select done.
I suggest setting up your WiFi at this time too.
Well this is my mini tutorial for a basic setup on your AT&T Tilt after you flash a new rom.
Have Fun Flashing and Take Care.
*Special thanks to the creators of these cab files and JimmyMcgee for teaching me the basics.
Am I missing something too?
Is there something to do regarding getting a reasonable GPS fix after flashing newer 6.1 roms or is it a known problem. I keep flashing down to older 6.0 roms with 1.27.14.09 radio because of the faster GPS fix. I would love to use the newer roms but GPS fix time is a deal breaker for me. To save you some time I use SPL 3.28 with 6.0 roms and 3.56 with 6.1 roms. I bounce between Q-mobile and RomEos roms now that we lost dutty. Ive tried all the newer radios and personally they all stink for GPS. Sorry about your brief ban and welcome back, I need your wisdom
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AWESOME. I keep saying I need to: Start fresh, get NetCF 3.5, get a light rom. But it all seems so complicated to go from current configuration to start over completely, but this will help a lot! Thanks! Now to find the time and the 'right' ROM.
Thanks very much for the reminders, and for the CABs. I flashed my first 6.1 ROM last night, and forgot all about the hidden proxy!
I agree that this really needs to be a sticky...
This is a good tutorial, but here is a good side note to add.
By removing the hidden proxy (which ya do with the removehiddenproxy cab), Tilt users won't be able to get to media net (http://device.home or http://home) or cingular video as the hidden proxy is needed for those.
Then they should just use the Restore Proxy, and that will allow MEdiaNet.
Proxy Manager has both in it.
myteematt said:
Ive tried all the newer radios and personally they all stink for GPS. Sorry about your brief ban and welcome back, I need your wisdom
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Did you try 1.71.09.01 ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410953
Been having the same issue and finally I think got a break. Tried about 10 SR's and the lock times are steady inside the house.
BTW using DK2
does windows mobile have a localhost file like windows? would remapping those to their needed servers allow the bypassing of the proxy?
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+1.
Nice tutorial
I downloaded your PPCPimBackup zip file but when I attempted to open it I received the following prompt: "The central directory was not located . . ." etc.
Thanks for the post BTW. Very helpful and informative.
the Dragon said:
I downloaded your PPCPimBackup zip file but when I attempted to open it I received the following prompt: "The central directory was not located . . ." etc.
Thanks for the post BTW. Very helpful and informative.
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you were unable to open the zip file? I'll check it out and reupload it if necessary.
edit: works ok here my friend. Unzip the file to your desktop and move it to your storage card then run the program hopefully it works for you.
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Is there something to do regarding getting a reasonable GPS fix after flashing newer 6.1 roms or is it a known problem. I keep flashing down to older 6.0 roms with 1.27.14.09 radio because of the faster GPS fix. I would love to use the newer roms but GPS fix time is a deal breaker for me. To save you some time I use SPL 3.28 with 6.0 roms and 3.56 with 6.1 roms. I bounce between Q-mobile and RomEos roms now that we lost dutty. Ive tried all the newer radios and personally they all stink for GPS. Sorry about your brief ban and welcome back, I need your wisdom
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I deserved the brief ban.
Anyhow, I noticed that when running 6.1 roms with the Tilt you need an application such as HTC GPS Tool or GPS Test, to open your internal gps, prior to opening your GPS Software.
These are the steps I use to utilize a GPS Fix after each soft reset:
1) download latest updates for quickgps
2) Open GPS Tool>com 4>baud 4800>Hot Start>Then click Open and wait like 30 seconds
3) Open TT7
*If you fail to get a fix after following these steps close all programs and repeat. Eventually you should be getting fixes within seconds.
I've attached GPS Tool for you, good luck.
What exactly does the remove hidden proxy cab do on AT&T Tilts? If you go into your connection settings and uncheck the proxy server- is that the same thing or something different than the cab file does?
Hey Red,
I attached an ATT settings cab which does not enable the proxy by default, and also enableds creation mode in MMS settings. I thought it might be helpful for your thread here. Also, it may seem too advanced for beginners, but i have a thread started here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418468
This has a step by step guide to how to create an xml file using Schap's Advanced Config 3.0, which can be used to provision all of your advanced config preferences during your UC setup. This tool has really made it very easy to do reduce the amount of work that goes into flashing.
I also attached a cab for total commander, a free, more full featured file explorer; gps test, another gps tool; and advanced config 3.0. Hope it helps.
Thanks... this is a great thread!!!
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What exactly does the remove hidden proxy cab do on AT&T Tilts? If you go into your connection settings and uncheck the proxy server- is that the same thing or something different than the cab file does?
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I'd really like to know this too!
Why would anyone ever want the proxy checked? Does it do something for you to have it checked?
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I'd really like to know this too!
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It removes a HIDDEN proxy, one that you can't remove without a cab. Without it enabled you can't connect to medianet home, and some other things. Most users like to disable it for a myriad of reasons, one of which is that it causes you to be unable to browse while connected to your laptop.
The box that you check in connections is a separate issue, and i think that is actually just old settings, i'm not sure, since even on the AT&T website it tells you no not to have that checked.
scotchua said:
It removes a HIDDEN proxy, one that you can't remove without a cab. Without it enabled you can't connect to medianet home, and some other things. Most users like to disable it for a myriad of reasons, one of which is that it causes you to be unable to browse while connected to your laptop.
The box that you check in connections is a separate issue, and i think that is actually just old settings, i'm not sure, since even on the AT&T website it tells you no not to have that checked.
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Awesome. So, if I run the cab and remove the hidden proxy- can I then tether my laptop (connect to the net using the Tilt's data)- without getting caught by AT&T? Or is there more to tethering without getting caught?
Hello,
I have the HTC Touch Diamond with WM6.1. I love the phone but my exchange administrator has implemented password protection for my email account. So every hour my phone is locked until I enter the password. Does anyone know how to extend the time or disable the password in the registry. I have found several references to the registry setting in WM5 but that did not work so I am wondering if it is a different entry in WM6.1 Any ideas?
Can anyone help me with this?
This should work on WM6.1:
\hklm\security\policies\policies
Change value name "00001023" from '0' to '1'.
Or: http://cid-79cd30393341a619.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/WMSimulateKeyPress.zip
Or: http://www.modernnomads.info/wiki/i...ation+when+your+PocketPC+is+on+external+power
Or: http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13030&page=2
Btw, think about it before you remove this policy. The sysadmin does not enforce this policy for nothing. I learned to live with it, it also has some advantages (for example when your device is stolen and you won't accidently push any buttons)
Thanks for the reply. the 3rd link which is Zen's program does not seem to work in WM6.1 in the Diamond. The registry entry definitely does not work because I have set it and reset the phone and it still locks. You have a point about why the password is there but it becomes a safety issue when I am driving and need to make a phone call. I am not sure what the Simulate Key press does could you provide any more information?
I am finding that with the HTC diamond alot of the customization has changed alot of the functions for the registry. I wish I could find someone that has figured all this out.