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Ip address problem 169.254.x.x can't connect to wifi network

I'm currently running wm5 ivan w/rd
i keep having this problem where i try to connect to a network, and it connects, but i can't do anything.
When i open up my ipconfig it shows the network ip address as 169.254.x.x where x is always something different. My router shows the mac address on the network but it's unreachable.
Does anyone have any idea where this ip is coming from? I've tried different radio versions, and it happens so far with 1.1.13 and 1.1.15 on both wm5 AND wm3.

169.254.xxx.xxx is a class of ip addresses set automatically to a device, when this can't connect the dhcp server. is a reserved network.
if your router is set as dhcp server, you must verify the link connection with pda. else you must configure the correct ip address manually to the pda.

download and run vxIPconfig and use that to release and renew a new IP from the DHCP server

Nine times out of ten this is caused by bad encryption settings. If you put in the wrong WEP key for example this is what you would see. You don't get error messages when it's wrong, which is kind-of by design and desirable for security reasons.

I'm downloading vxipconfig right now. I did a search last night and was reminded of 169.254.x.x coming up on machines when winsock is corrupt.
Another web site said something about how a pda will connect to the first computer with activesync through wifi under this ip address and try to sync, and then it will get a normal ip address. I don't know if this is true with this device.
@closer what do you mean verify the link connection? The router shows the pda's ip address in it's connection manager, but for any computer or pda i don't know a way to "verify the link" other than look at it. There's no command for this. The router is set up to correctly assign dhcp as i have 2 computers and 2 xbox's connected through lines, and 2 computers through wifi. I know i can manualy set the ip, which i often do for everything but the laptop, but this is a pain in the ass to try and find out the gateway of every single router when i'm out in town. That's a workaround, not a fix.
@Black6spdz I was using Myipconfig and it would release and renew to just a different 169.254.x.x. I'm going to try vxipconfig when this happens again.
--Well, last night i got pissed and abandoned working on it. Low and behold when i wake up today it's working fine and has the correct ip address. That sucks, because now i have no idea what was wrong.
so...
-It's time to go connect to some other networks and see if it resolves correctly.
-Then i'm going to go through the 3 different radio versions and see how they affect it.

when I had that problem it was because my settings were set up incorrectly.. If i were to use gprs, it'd work fine. But wifi would not. So i had to make a seperate setting with generic entries and not set up proxies. then wifi would work. sort of a pain. but it would work...

WM6 internet sharing with whole network

Hi, I have a Tilt and do not have a problem tethering to a single computer. What I would like to do is share with all four computers in my home. I have tried bridging the sharing connection to my lan connection and have gotten dhcp on the Tilt to assign addresses to all computers on the network, but they still can't ping each other (other than the tilt and the computer its directly tethered to. I have turned off all firewalls and still nothing. Rebooted everything. Still nothing. Is it possible to do this? Thanks for any help.

There's a program around here somewhere that allows you to make your TILT a wireless router. If you do this, any machine with wi-fi can connect to the SSID and go.
Anyone have the link handy?

Wireless Router
Could I have it connect with my current wireless router to provide internet to my wired network through the rj45 ports on the router ? 3 of the 4 computers are on a wired lan. You see, we just got HSDPA on Monday and I love it. I got a bit ahead of myself and cancelled my home DSL connection. Now I'm realizing that I am stuck with only having one computer on the internet at a time. This has got to be possible. - I just found the thread on setting up as a wireless router. I will start playing with it. Any suggestions/instructions are appreciated.

OK, get connected to your carrier whilst tethered.
Then from any Explorer window on your tethered PC, select, 'Set up a home or small Office Network'.
Select the first option in the following box 'This computer directly connects...' and follow it through.
This should set up your Activesync PC as an IP address of 192.168.1.1. (an access point IP)
If you connect any other PC/laptop to this PC via wireless or LAN (you do know how to do that I hope??) to this computer, it will share the internet connection..
Remember, this will change any prior Internet configuration you have on the PC/Laptop!
Hope this helps.

Internet sharing
Thanks for the suggestion. I am going to try that again. The first time I tried that I found out that the Tilt had already assigned itself the address of 192.168.0.1 . On the XP machine, the computer will always use that same address to share its connection, so it immediately complained that another computer on the network is already using the required address for internet connection sharing. Maybe all I need to do is force the Tilt to use a different ip address like 192.168.0.10? I am not sure how to do that since this is my first time using Windows Mobile as part of a network sharing its connection. The only reference I could find to 192.168.0.1 in the registry was HKLM\Comm\BTPAN1\Parms\TcpIp. Should I change that?

jebrown1 said:
Thanks for the suggestion. I am going to try that again. The first time I tried that I found out that the Tilt had already assigned itself the address of 192.168.0.1 . On the XP machine, the computer will always use that same address to share its connection, so it immediately complained that another computer on the network is already using the required address for internet connection sharing. Maybe all I need to do is force the Tilt to use a different ip address like 192.168.0.10? I am not sure how to do that since this is my first time using Windows Mobile as part of a network sharing its connection. The only reference I could find to 192.168.0.1 in the registry was HKLM\Comm\BTPAN1\Parms\TcpIp. Should I change that?
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NO, 192.168.0.1 or 2.1 or.3.1 are all access point AD's.
You have to go into your PC/laptop Network Places icon to tel IT to then share the connection.
I am sorry, but if you have never shared an internet connection on your PC before (ie via modem or ADSL), you will not really understand how it is done.

Access points
Thanks for your reply. The problem is that we are trying to make the pc an access point and trying to make the tilt an access point at the same time. They both are using 192.168.0.1 as the default ip address and as far as I tell there is not a way given to change that. The Tilt automatically uses 192.168.0.1 and when you using the sharing wizard on the pc it also uses the same address for its network card thats connected to the home wired network. Unfortunately for me, two devices on a network cannot have the same ip address. There must be a way...

jebrown1 said:
Thanks for your reply. The problem is that we are trying to make the pc an access point and trying to make the tilt an access point at the same time. They both are using 192.168.0.1 as the default ip address and as far as I tell there is not a way given to change that. The Tilt automatically uses 192.168.0.1 and when you using the sharing wizard on the pc it also uses the same address for its network card thats connected to the home wired network. Unfortunately for me, two devices on a network cannot have the same ip address. There must be a way...
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OK, set all computers on the network to fixed IP's of 192.168.0.xxx in Internet protocol (under TCPIP on network)with the same subnet mask with a default gateway matching your device! Try that...

sharing
That was my first attempt at a work around. The problem is that there are
actually two network connections to the pc. One for the Tilt (usb) and one for the LAN (nic card). They don't seem to see each other even when they have matching ip addresses and subnets. Thats why I tried right clicking them and selecting "bridge these connections." It seems that internet sharing "requires" DHCP to be used. I tried setting all the computers to use DHCP and actually had the Tilt assigning ip addresses to all of the computers on the network by bridging the two connections and using dhcp. Oddly, though, the computers on the network could not ping the Tilt. I think its because bridging uses the data link layer of the osi networking model?

There must be a hack to change the ip address that windows uses for the sharing access point. Alternatively, it would be nice if there were a device out there that could act as a hub to network usb and 100baseT devices together. In other words, plugging usb and cat5 cable rj45 plugs into the same box and having them all be on the same network.

OK, I have asked smitty to get on this but both of us are WAYYYYy past our bedtimes.
He should get back to you tomoz on this. (he's the Network buff..)
Hope it works out..

this is the app mentioned earlier and may help your solution...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398

I can't make this work. I don't have WiFi on all of my computers. I was hoping to use WMWifiRouter to connect to my wireless router and then to my whole wired network. Is there a way to make the Tilt wireless router to connect with another wireless router? I'm thinking what I will do is go back to an AT&T rom and use "wireles modem" instead of "internet sharing". That way I can share the modem with the whole network. There doesn't seem to be a good way to use the Tilt internet sharing with the whole network. What do you guys think?

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For any future readers of this thread: I put the stock AT&T rom back on this phone and did a soft reset during the initial boot to stop the bloatware from loading. I went to start>settings>connections and tapped the wireless modem icon to open the app. I selected "usb" and tapped done then plugged the usb into my computer. My win xp computer found the new modem hardware and installed the HTC modem driver. I then setup a new dialup connection on my computer, and used the following to setup the login and dial:
username: [email protected]
password: cingular1
dial #: *99***1#
When I clicked on dial, it quickly connected to the AT&T network and I had internet access on my computer! I went to a speed test website and clocked my download speed at 1.2mbs and upload at 300kbs. I then opened "my network" and started the network setup wizard. I selected "this computer connects directly to the internet" and "file and printer sharing". To make a long story short, I am now able to share the Tilt's HSDPA internet connection with my whole network! I could not do it using the internet sharing function of the Tilt with either the AT&T rom or the kaiser rom. It would be awesome if someone more educated than me could make this function part of the HTC kaiser rom.

Nojnaworb wrote:
.....the problem is that we are trying to make the pc an access point and trying to make the tilt an access point at the same time. They both are using 192.168.0.1 as the default ip address and as far as I tell there is not a way given to change that. The Tilt automatically uses 192.168.0.1 and when you using the sharing wizard on the pc it also uses the same address for its network card thats connected to the home wired network. Unfortunately for me, two devices on a network cannot have the same ip address. There must be a way.......
I have same problem. I agree with Nojnaworb, this is the reason why its not working.
I have no Wifi at home and have to use LAN for my home network (2 PC + 1 ppc).
Under WM5 it was easy to share Internetconnection with all Lan adapters.
I cannot believe there is no way.
PLS Networkexperts, tell me how to setup !!

Its really quite simple.
You dont connect all the computers to the tilt. You use ICS on the tilt to provide one pc with an internet connection.
You then share the internet connection from that pc to the other pc's using the networking wizard.

I think part of this persons problem was that he needed to bridge the 2 connections.
here have this.
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/wxpbrdge.html
You should be able to connect the Tilt, (let it use whatever address it wants) and then make a bridge from the tilt to your nic in the server. Then I beleive you just use internet connection sharing to disperse the lovely packets to the rest of the network. Without the bridge, there is no way to share from one network to another.
I'm pretty sure that you will need to set the address to 192.168.0.2 on the server or any other number were the 2 is. If your using a router then I would suggest turning off dhcp and not using the WAN port on it. Just treat the router like a switch/hub because it will just makes things even harder to figure out.
wish we had service that was worth sharing to my network.

WiFi problems

Hi.
I recently bought my s730. Quite pleased with it, but one thing bothers me.
When i connect to my wlan at home (zyxel_2602hw_d1a WPA-PSK TKIP) i'm able to connect to the router, but I don't seem to be able to get an connection to anywhere outside my own network. I tried using Live Messenger, IE, Opera and Skype, but nothing happens.
When I'm using GPRS or EDGE it all works smoothly.
Any suggestions?

Do you have your connection set to automatic or only through your phone network? I have seen a few problems with that.
Also, double check that you are entering wep or any other security protocol correctly, took my 6 tries before it would work, it looked like it was connected to the network but it really wasnt (just personal experience with this phone.)

10332007 said:
Do you have your connection set to automatic or only through your phone network? I have seen a few problems with that.
Also, double check that you are entering wep or any other security protocol correctly, took my 6 tries before it would work, it looked like it was connected to the network but it really wasnt (just personal experience with this phone.)
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I do have the connection settings in both IE and Opera set to automatic. I's there somewhere else I have to change settings?
I'm quite sure i typed the password correctly. I also checked the client list on the router and the phone showed up correctly.

Gah, cant remember where I saw it but there was a setting in the phone itself for what to connect to.
Another thing to try under the wifi connection open your saved connection and go into it and see if you have it set to connect to the internet or just to the private network under "network type" in the Wi-Fi sub menu of Wlan settings. Its late and I cant think right, i'll see about checking more into it later...

I solved this problem - change your WLAN security on your WLAN router only on exactly MAC adressee (no any WEP) and your Wings is allowed to connect and all will be OK, work OK - Skype, IE, Opera. Problem was only to find MAC adressee my Wings

Wing + WRT54GL
Hi!
I have an S730 and a Linksys WRT54GL router. I've tried to use wlan with my phone, but it doesn't working. I want to use WPA2 with AES without Radius. Is the WPA shared key (router) same to network key(phone)? without security and encryption, it's working well.. I cannot see any syslog. That could be so easy..

klenovcok said:
I solved this problem - change your WLAN security on your WLAN router only on exactly MAC adressee (no any WEP) and your Wings is allowed to connect and all will be OK, work OK - Skype, IE, Opera. Problem was only to find MAC adressee my Wings
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I tried removing security for my phone MAC address, but there dosn't seem to be any options on my router allowing this. So I'm still stuck;-/

ksga said:
Hi.
I recently bought my s730. Quite pleased with it, but one thing bothers me.
When i connect to my wlan at home (zyxel_2602hw_d1a WPA-PSK TKIP) i'm able to connect to the router, but I don't seem to be able to get an connection to anywhere outside my own network. I tried using Live Messenger, IE, Opera and Skype, but nothing happens.
When I'm using GPRS or EDGE it all works smoothly.
Any suggestions?
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Did you check network settings? I mean e.g. if you don't use DHCP server and you didn't fill in right settings phone may connect to network but may not get outside. I know it can look like "lame" question, but sometimes even a master can do a newbie mistake..

ksga said:
I tried removing security for my phone MAC address, but there dosn't seem to be any options on my router allowing this. So I'm still stuck;-/
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usually it is in section WLAN Advanced setup - WEP Encryption - disable and in WLAN MAC Filters - active + allow asotiation with table of adress your Wings - aply . I have Zyxel Prestige 660HW.

I'm sure that DHCP is active, and that I get an IP.
I tried disabling security on my router, but same problem. Connects to my router, gets an IP but still nothing works

ksga said:
I'm sure that DHCP is active, and that I get an IP.
I tried disabling security on my router, but same problem. Connects to my router, gets an IP but still nothing works
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Your DNS are also provided automatically? Or could you ping (through some app) to any IP address of any server on the internet? If you succee, then we can look for a mistake with DNS.

Problem solved!!!
Okay. Found the cause for all my sufferings...
Power management. under WLAN-settings i changed power setting from power save mode to best performance...
thanks for all the help. hope next time I have a better question

wifi problem
hello everybody,i have tried several times to connect to my router at home but no chance at the end i got this warning saying:
cannot log on to the wireless network this network requires a personel certificate to positively identify you.

Wireless Wierdness

Help!
I have a Netgear DG834T router as provided by Sky. I have one wired and two wireless connections running into it (let's call them WD, WL1 and WL2 respectively).
On the connections page I can see all of them under "attached devices"...but now I want to connect using my Kaiser (actually an O2 XDA Stellar)
What happens...
On the Kaiser, I get an IP address (assigned by DHCP) as normal - but can't access the internet - or at least, can only access it very rarely - http://www.google.com can't be found, but http://www.bbc.co.uk can. No idea why.
On the router, under "attached devices", not only can I NOT see the Kaiser, but WL1 and WL2 also disappear. WD remains visible. The router cannot ping the IP address of the Kaiser (timed out). If I disable WiFi on the Kaiser, then WL1 and WL2 are immediately visible again. Internet connection on WL1 and WL2 works, even when they are not visible.
I HAVE connected to this network before without any problems.
What the hooting heck is going on, and how do I fix it?
Thanks!

Time to troubleshoot! What happens with this phone on another wireless network. We need to determine if it's the phone or the network. Do you have any friends with a phone like this? Can you use their phone on your network? Do you have any ROMs flashed, has this phone ever been on the network without problems?
If the phone works on another router try looking for firmware updates for the router. Those things really do need to be updated often and it could have something to do with that.

Only have access to one network :-(. Might be a couple of weeks before I can access a hotel one or something like that.
Think next door neighbour has similar phone, but different provider...will try if he'll let me!
No ROMS flashed.
It connected fine when I first had it. As far as I know, I've changed nothing since then.
2 out of 4 answered...with an option on three...I'll get back to you as soon as I've beaten up my neighbour and stolen his phone...
Joke!

There should be somewhere you can go to test that wireless. I can walk outside the building I'm in and find one.

ChumleyEX said:
There should be somewhere you can go to test that wireless. I can walk outside the building I'm in and find one.
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You = US, me = UK. We still think the biro is a recent invention...

Neighbour's phone on my network gives the exact same problem. I've also noticed that when I click "Renew IP" on the Kaiser it doesn't work...it gives me 0.0.0.0, but will occasionally flash up the correct IP address. It's alomst as if the connection is being lost and remade every few seconds. The status ist gives me is "associated to network"...is that different to "connected"?
I've been trying to solve this on my router, but none of the settings seem to make any difference.

Same here
I get the same with the router from sky.
Kaiser says I have an IP address, 192.168.0.5, but the it doesn't show up on the attached devices on the router.
What I find that works is hit renew IP maybe twice until you get a really wierd IP address like
169.254.*.**, actually not sure if I'm picking up another network, but for some reason I don't think I am.
I can then browse the web and sync via wifi.
Really pisses me of that it says that it has an IP address but doesn't connect.

1) Make sure you dont have a proxy set up on your wifi connection on your device.
2) The 169. address is your device getting an unauthorised IP address as the router did not receive the correct encryption key from the device.
3) You can check if its an encryption thing by simply logging in to the router (192.168.0.1 in your web browser on pc) and changing the settings to turn wpa off and testing it. The routers username and password are on the card - its something like "sky" and "admin"

Yeah I agree, there is something up with that router.

Grey Area said:
Neighbour's phone on my network gives the exact same problem. I've also noticed that when I click "Renew IP" on the Kaiser it doesn't work...it gives me 0.0.0.0, but will occasionally flash up the correct IP address. It's alomst as if the connection is being lost and remade every few seconds. The status ist gives me is "associated to network"...is that different to "connected"?
I've been trying to solve this on my router, but none of the settings seem to make any difference.
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with my router.....i have to set the wifi power mode on my kaiser to "best performance", any other setting and i get that "associated to network" ****. been this way every since the hermes and the wizard.

unwired4 said:
1) Make sure you dont have a proxy set up on your wifi connection on your device.
2) The 169. address is your device getting an unauthorised IP address as the router did not receive the correct encryption key from the device.
3) You can check if its an encryption thing by simply logging in to the router (192.168.0.1 in your web browser on pc) and changing the settings to turn wpa off and testing it. The routers username and password are on the card - its something like "sky" and "admin"
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No, proxy set-up as the device was bought unbranded in US.
Because there are issues with this router, encryption and media streaming devices, I have only restricted the mac addresses with no encryption.
Still don't know about the 169. ip address beacuse doesn't seem to come up as am ISP.

Now then, how wierd is this?
After all these issues and kind of giving up on it as a bad job, I also noticed that out on the road, my GPRS wasn't working either - TomTom couldn't connect to the "plus" traffic service.
I get on the phone to O2 who told me that my phone hadn't been "provisioned". After one false start where they didn't seem to do anything about it, I have just (literally) had them tell me to go to the O2 Operator settings and tell it to update the "O2 UK Post Pay_GPRS" and reboot.
GPRS now works. And magically, so does my WiFi - IP address negotiated and full access to internet and my router's setup page granted. Working like a charm again.
So - seems to me it's an account setting, and nothing to do with either me poor ol' router or me nice new phone.
For completeness, I was occasionally getting the 169 IP address too, so it sounds like we have EXACTLY the same problem - suggest you get onto your service provider ASAP.

gprs connection failed

It worked yesterday but now won't. If I enter proxy settings into orangeinternet acp the same as orangewap then it works for http traffic but not email.
I have done a lot of setting up on the phone since it arrived yesterday but I can't think what I can have altered in the gprs settings.
I had the same issue with my Touch Cruise on the newer ROMs and it went away when I reverted to the official HTC Cruise 6.1 ROM.
Any ideas anyone?

You could always try running the network setup wizard again?

You could always try running the network setup wizard again?
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I tried that several times - it doesn't work. I think it must be a screwed setting from setting up something like exchange server in activesync.
Everything works under wifi.
I am really hoping I don't have to do a hard reset and start all over again.

Try putting a different operator's sim in and let it set everything up for it, then put your orange sim back in and go through the auto setup again. If that doesn't work then a hardreset might be your only option. Going from your other posts in the themes, applications and software it looks like your phone is really playing up so a hardreset might be best all round, only install one thing at a time and test everything after every install and customisation until you find out what you're doing to break it, then don't do that step again.

Have you messed around at all under the network advanced options where you set things like HSDPA etc

Thanks for all the replies. I've ended up hard resetting and re-customising one thing at a time.
The thing that breaks it seems to be when I change the wifi settings. I have a non-standard wireless network at home and I have to specifiy the IP address and default gateway in the "network adaptors" settings for wifi. Once I access the network with these settings it breaks the cellular data connection!
Like I said earlier, my Cruise did this as well with the later ROM such as Udk's and C_Shekhar's. When I went back to the official HTC 6.1 ROM everything worked fine.
I have now reverted my wireless settings to standard (i.e. DHCP) and it has restored the cellular connection but, obviously the wifi doesn't work.
If I can't sort this I'll have to rethink my home network.

Sounds like you're using set IP addresses on your home network for port forwarding or something of that nature. Have another look in your router's settings as most decent ones will allow you to reserve IPs from the DHCP range for specific MAC addresses, that way when the computers or other devices ask for an IP they get given the same one every time. Things really do work much more smoothly as far as networking goes when DHCP is working. If you really do need to specify IP addresses manually then just let the router hand out addresses by DCHP from a restricted range, e.g. if you manually specify addresses from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.10 then set the start address for DHCP to 192.168.1.11.

Thanks, shuflie. It's actually to do with the default gateway. I have an orange livebox doing the adsl work so I can plug a telephone in to it to get free calls. However, the wireless is useless on the livebox so I have a netgear wireless router on the network as well. The trouble is, DHCP won't work that way so I have to set each wireless device up with a dedicated IP address and direct it to the livebox as the gateway.
For some unknown reason, this breaks cellular data on winmo devices.
Anyway, until I find a solution I have removed the orange livebox from my system. I'll just have to live without the broadband phonecalls which is no big deal tbh.

I actually run a non standard network here too, a SKY ADSL router to provide the broadband access and a Netgear router which all my computers attach to. Both router are set up as DCHP servers, but the SKY box only gives out an address to the Netgear router, the Netgear hands out the IP addresses for everything else. The only drawback I've seen so far is that it seems impossible to initiate a connection from the outside world to any of the computers on my network because of the dual NAT that is happening, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing as it makes it harder to hack in from outside. I don't have to point the computer and other devices to the SKY box as the gateway, I just let the Netgear router think that the connection it is getting from the SKY box is a direct connection to the outside world. Everything seems to work just fine, no problems with network gaming on the playstation network and torrents, skype, web etc. seem to work just fine. If you can't live without the broadband calls you could give it a go.

Should have said that the SKY and Netgear routers are on different subnets, 192.168.0.x for the SKY and 192.168.1.x for the netgear.