anyone knows? may be the stock charger won't work & will cut off after charging to ~1490mah? I left mine charging for 12hrs & it appears to be only charging during the 1st couple of hours... then the heat in battery is lost = no charging anymore
thx in advance
i do no the exact issue but think that u need a charger of higer current rating to charge that battery.
Hello,
I use the stock charger (5V, 1A) to charge the battery. Is there any faster charger with more current on the market to charge the extended battery faster?
It also has to work with Android custom ROMs.
I think is useless because the circuit of recharge is into the phone and limited to 1A and lipo battery recharge very slowly for maximize the life of battery.
Would agree with poster above that actual phone charge circuit will limit charge current to safe level & not much if anything should be done to change it.
If you are unable to charge overnight & need fast charge times you would be better going to 2 standard sized batteries which charge quick or can charge externally ...
Problem too is Android has worse battery consumption than a good custom WM6.5.3 build.
I think this is impossible
The stock charger states it has 1500mA, but my phone doesnt load faster with it then with a 750mA one from an old Samsung phone. 1% in 1:15 Minutes on both.
Also if i use the phone while charging the battery level drops again or charges slower. The stock charger with its 1500mA should have enough juice to compensate for that.
Then i have a 1000mA USB charger, with that the Z knows no limits, it takes more out than the charger can handle, 1% in 50 seconds (that means you can have your battery full in 1,4 hours instead of 3,2 hours). But it runs hot and shuts down.
Whats wrong with my stock charger?
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It is possible that the battery (and the integrated charge chip) limits the maximum ammount of current to prevent overheating and too rapid charging of the battery. You have to know that Li Ion charging should be regulated by current, voltage and battery temperature and charging may even stop before full charge if the battery heats up too much - the case when U are using a high performance tasks, e.g. 3d gaming and charging in the same time. I have heard that some users even use weaker chargers (350-500mA), which means slow charge, but this way they extend the battery capacity and life.
Still the 1500mA charger should not be slower than the 1000mA one.
Also if i'm using the original 1500mA charger and turn the device on it still should charge the battery and not lose the charge.
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I've done some heavy gaming and other heavy stuff while charging from pc via usb and battery was charging a bit slower but that a'll.
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During charging from a powerbank charging level suddenly jumped to 100%. I disconnected the powerbank then the battery level drops to 84%. After that battery allways charge to 100% within 20 minutes from 0%. In ampere app it shows 5000 mah as charging ampere but my charger is 2 amp. Has anybody experienced this behavior of battery. Here is some screenshots attached
Is it due to battery or defective charging ic in motherboard?
How long it is supposed to take to fully charge it with 25W charger?
Are the first times you charge it slower to reach full charge?
The time will vary. Battery capacity, discharge state at start of charge and the battery temperature throughout the charge cycle.
Charging from 0-100% stresses the battery (especially with fast charging) and shouldn't be commonly practiced.
Battery start charge temperature should be at least 72F, 82F is ideal. Cool it if it exceeds 99F while charging. Charging is a electrochemical reaction and some heat is needed to avoid Li plating.
Never attempt to charge an Li near freezing temperatures
Li's thrive on frequent partial charge cycling. 40-80% is a good range.
Avoid going below 20% or over 90% except occasionally for best lifespan.
High temperatures and high cell voltage are Li's biggest lifespan risks. Avoid running the phone when the battery is hot (>102F) or provide cooling. Keep it out of direct sunlight especially when charging.
Store Li's in a cool, dry place with a 50-70%charge, not 100%!
GSMArena:
" We tested the Galaxy A33 with the said 25W USB-C Samsung charger, and it replenished 50% of the battery in half an hour.
A full charge took 1 hour and 15 minutes, and in fact, that was the cited expected time to full charge by the software as well. "
Fast charging will yield roughly 2%@minute from 0-80% if battery doesn't go into over temperature ramp down. Time it to get the nominal rate for that device ie how many seconds per 1% when fast charging in the 40-70% range, probably 30-40 seconds per minute when new. As it's capacity from degradation drops so will this rate.
Charge rate will ramp down at around 80%, then again at about 90% to protect the battery.
Temperature is the biggest variable.
If the battery is below about 60F fast charging will not engage for that charge cycle in order to protect the battery.
Fast charging rate not clear cut as the power controller optimizes charge rate per conditions and will reduce charge rate if they're not in the optimum range.
Constant erratic fast charging cycles with a known good brick/cable indicates a battery failure.
Any battery swelling is a failure, stop charge and replace it asap. It can damage or destroy the phone
Replace the battery when it reaches 80% of its initial capacity, the end of its useful service life. At that point it's considered degraded, degraded Li's are far more likely to fail. An Li can fail at any time... it can happen fast. Cataclysmic failures however are rare.
My new A33 came a couple of days ago with about 30% charge. I used it a bit lightly with the intention of depleting it(so I can have it full when I root it), I haven't yet installed the SIM, and when it was about 15% I got tired so I downloaded an app "Generic Battery Drainer" to deplet it quicker until it reached 0% and turned off, then I charged it to 100% with the charger I purchased which came today(an OEM one)
I didn't know that you should never deplete the battery to 0% and also did not know that the battery should not be charged to 100%
I obviously also didn't know the dangers of high temperatures, because the drainer app took the cell phone to about 104ºF
What prompted me to post my question actually was that from 0% to 100% charge it took about 3 hours. So I'm wondering if maybe I should check if the OEM 25W charger that I got does not charge fast as advertised?
bogavante said:
My new A33 came a couple of days ago with about 30% charge. I used it a bit lightly with the intention of depleting it(so I can have it full when I root it), I haven't yet installed the SIM, and when it was about 15% I got tired so I downloaded an app "Generic Battery Drainer" to deplet it quicker until it reached 0% and turned off, then I charged it to 100% with the charger I purchased which came today(an OEM one)
I didn't know that you should never deplete the battery to 0% and also did not know that the battery should not be charged to 100%
I obviously also didn't know the dangers of high temperatures, because the drainer app took the cell phone to about 104ºF
What prompted me to post my question actually was that from 0% to 100% charge it took about 3 hours. So I'm wondering if maybe I should check if the OEM 25W charger that I got does not charge fast as advertised?
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You should fully charge a new battery before using. Are you using the cable that came with the brick? Is the wall socket wired correctly?
3 hours is far too long for fast charging.
Observe while charging to see if it's fast charging be % per minute.
The display must be off or it will skew the charge rate badly. Start and maintain it in temperature parameters described when charging.
If it drops out of fast charging because of temperature it will likely not reengage unless the cycle is manually started again ie unplug/ plug back in. Don't try to fast charge a hot (>98F) battery, it won't work. Cool the battery down and use cooling while charging. A damp microfiber cloth and/or fan work well.
Briefly turning on the display will not break the fast charging, it will resume once you turn off the display. Low current drain apps like Poweramp/bt can be used while fast charging but not high current drain ones.
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Are you using the cable that came with the brick? Is the wall socket wired correctly?
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I used the cable that came with the OEM charger that I purchased, seems to be identical kind of cable as the one that came with the phone.
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I used the cable that came with the OEM charger that I purchased, seems to be identical kind of cable as the one that came with the phone.
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Should be good to go.
When you get to 40%, try again... it's probably ok.
Try using a wall socket on a different breaker. Line voltage fluctuations won't effect this brick however neutral/ground fault might. Avoid using on a circuit with large induction motors on it ie microwave ovens, friges and A/C