Morning XDA world,
just thought I would report on the official XDA2 car kit sold by Tmobile in Germany.
Picked it up last week for 175 Euro's while I was over there.
Fitted it this weekend and it fantastic. As well as the usual connection of power/aerial/microphone, there is also two speaker outputs that can drive external units. A typical carphone speaker came with it so I have connected that and an exisitng one I had in the car.
I can now get my MP3 and TomTom voice commands in Stereo. The mini amp that is in the car kit is only about 12w but I have had to turn the volume down to 25% on the XDA otherwise it is too loud for normal driving. There is also a mute connection for the radio if it is required.
One question I do have, does any one know what would happen if I connect the speaker outputs directly to the speaker outputs of the car radio. Would I need a diode to prevent the signal from both units damaging the other, or is there another way. I dont want to use an FM unit or mix it in with the CD multi input connection.
thanks in advance.
i ordered mine a few days ago, i hope i have it today for 176 euro
and 6 euro shipping..
here are fotos of the original carkit
http://www.pbase.com/paiko/ppc3
(not mine)
thanks to paiko
Thanks for the pics, I'm looking for a XDA2 car mount and I have to say that this one is the best i've seen so far
SD card slot is blok? have you found that unpractical or you don't change SD cards to often?
anyone know where to source one of these (I am in the UK) ?
you can order it in germany for 176 euro
www.passiontec.de
Hi
Looks very simular to the one that O2 are going to sell in the Q2 04
http://www.xda-2.co.uk/accessories/peripherals.html
I have just ordered this one to use with my soon to arrive TomTom 3, its got extra wire that are not need with blue tooth but would pesume that it does not mater
http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx
steve
Looking for a Car Kit with a Cradle for the Siemens SX56.
I have seen most of the posts for the car kits and they look awesome. They blow away anything else I have found on the net or on EBAY by any means. Now my question is where can I get this same type of car kit for my Siemens SX56 in the USA, ideally Illinois. It seems that everyone that has an awesome car kit is in another country. Any help is appreciated.
Ideally the car kit would have a drop in fitting for the PDA. It should allow a clean fitted installation, which wouldn’t show any wiring and also allow me to integrate my PDA through my car speakers. It should have an external microphone that I can add in a clean fashion so I can use it to make calls and received them. Ideally the same kit like the car kits for standard cell phones only for a Siemens SX56 PDA.
You help is greatly appreciated!
akira said:
you can order it in germany for 176 euro
www.passiontec.de
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Sorry I cannot read German and I couldn't find it. Do you have a direct link to the actual page for the unit?
Ed
This looks really interesting, but I'm afraid my German is not too good. I guess that those of you who've bought one of these can understand the language better than me - so could someone please explain the difference between these:
Car BasicSet für MDA II [€170]
CarKit II [€200] (this appears to be the one in the photos above)
Navigate StarterSet für MDA II [€170]
NaviGate Car Kit Pro MDA II [€250]
I guess that the NaviGate kits include T-Mobile's (proprietary?) navigation solution, but it is interesting that the CarKit II also appears to include a connection for NaviGate. I presume, therefore, that all of the above kits present some sort of interface that any GPS receiver could connect to - but it would be greatly appreciated if someone could confirm what the interface is (RS232, PS/2, etc.)? I suppose detailed photos or installation guides would be helpful here.
Basically, I would like a cradle for my XDA2 that:
- outputs all audio through the car's speakers, muting the radio;
- provides for an external antenna; and
- connects to a (wired) GPS receiver suitable for use with TomTom3.
Maybe I'm too demanding! Is this asking for the world on a plate? I would've thought it was a fairly standard set of requirements... :?
Okay, so maybe I'm not being so demanding after all... according to http://www.my-xda.com/carkit.html :
"the Xda II carkit supports direct connection of a GPS unit - such as that provide [sic] by TomTom Navigator" (as far as I can tell, this implies that there is an RJ45 connector carrying both data and power; for the real techies, does anyone know whether the power is at 5V or 12V?)
I imagine that the kit they're referring to is identical to the T-Mobile CarKit II, which seems to be what you guys bought from Germany - in which case, is there really a spare RJ45 socket lying around for a GPS receiver? I can't get anyone at O2 to understand what I'm talking about (they don't even seem to be aware that such a car kit exists).
Exciting stuff. :?
But as far as the O2 link you provided goes it still only has an XDA kit for sale not yet an XDA II kit correct?
Ed
ednap said:
But as far as the O2 link you provided goes it still only has an XDA kit for sale not yet an XDA II kit correct?
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Well, the third paragraph says: "These carkit's are especially designed to fit Xda and Xda II respectively", which implies a separate kit is available for the XDA II - but there's no product code, price, or any mention of it in the O2 Shop.
nickety said:
a separate kit is available for the XDA II - but there's no product code, price, or any mention of it in the O2 Shop.
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I've just spoken to O2 - they're expecting it to be available from about 2-3 weeks' time, and it will be priced at £189. I've just pre-ordered one over the telephone (0800 389 4516).
Expansys like Carkit
Hi all,
just to tell you all it will be available at the end of May (I hope) here in Portugal a complete Carkit for the XDA2 (Carkit Pro) just like the one at expansys.com for around 155€ directly from the national distributor.
I'll tell you more as soon as i get more info on this.
Expensive from O2
I just spoke to the people in the two O2 shops in nottingham and both of them told me that the XDA II Car kit is available, but they have to order it in. They said the cost is £150 plus £99 fitting charge, and they'll only let you have one if they can fit it. Has anyone else found this or is it just O2 Nottingham being greedy?
The O2 accessories phone line told me that the kit required fitting, but that I'd have to arrange that myself.
Oh
OK. Seems like O2. hey're a bit poo for information here in Notts.
Has anyone, looked into making a cable to connect the XDA/XDA II to a car stereo? I've not got a stereo at the moment to test with but I assume that they have a standard layout of pins on the ack or something for phone inputs?
Anyone who knows a fair bit about car stereos and fitting phones to them can you leave me some extra info?
Also, with regards to the XDA I and II, do they have any reason why the same cable wouldn't want to be used for the two different phones? I've got a I and am thinking of getting a II but don't want to faff about with a cable for one and then find it's useless when I upgrade.
Will
That's the way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4348&highlight=connectors
Bit of searching and I found this. Any extra info still welcome.
Hello again all,
Pegasus said:
One question I do have, does any one know what would happen if I connect the speaker outputs directly to the speaker outputs of the car radio. Would I need a diode to prevent the signal from both units damaging the other, or is there another way. I dont want to use an FM unit or mix it in with the CD multi input connection.
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I am by no means an audio expert, but have had a little Google around since this is exactly what I would like to do myself.
I found a reply to someone else's similar question about connecting two different audio sources/amps in their bedroom to the same speakers. It seems that it's not a good idea.
I then found an automatic selector switch which runs on 12VDC. I think that you can connect your radio speaker outputs to the "AMP A" input and the Xda II carkit to "AMP B", thereby giving priority to the Xda II whenever it's trying to do something. Chop the mains plug off and you should be able to hook it up to the car's switched/accessory power supply.
I hope that helps.
Whilst I'm posting in this thread (again :wink, can someone please confirm what this carkit provides for connecting to GPS receivers? This photo that akira posted is very helpful, but it doesn't show clearly enough what type of connector #13 is... hopefully it's an RJ11 that will directly work with the TomTom wired receiver - can anyone confirm? If not, is there any chance of an exact description, or close-up photo with pinouts (perhaps this is in the accompanying documentation)?
Thanks!
The connection on the Car kit Akira mentioned is RJ11 for the GPS reciever. Unfortunately my GPS reciever is PS2.
I looking for an cable adapter from PS2 to RJ11. Any one can help?
Hi,
I'm new to this forum and have just bought an XDA, I've done the ROM upgrade and I love it!!
However I'd like an incar kit so I can use the SatNav. I currently have a Dell X30 with TomTom and bluetooth GPS but I'd like to replace with a full incar kit for the XDA. (I know I'll also have to replace the GPS as XDA don't got BT. )
Any leads, vendors or second hands out there?
Cheers
Emo
I've just purchased a GPS cradle from eBay for £81.00 all in. Will let you know how it works once I've got it up and running with Tom Tom.
Let me know if you want the actual URL.
Yes please, the web address would be great.
Cheers
Emo
Hi;
I have been searching for a good pda to buy but haven't decided which one to buy yet.
I was more likely to buy a xda2i but then I read some of the posts here and got the feeling that most of the users are not satisfied with the xda2i.
Do you recommend me buy a xda2i or do you think imate pda2k is better?
Since xda2i and imate pda2k are very expensive in Turkey ,I really would like to hear your objective suggestions&comments on both xda2i and imate pda2k.
I really need that info before deciding which yo choose.
Thx
Melih Cavli
Melih said:
Hi;
I have been searching for a good pda to buy but haven't decided which one to buy yet.
I was more likely to buy a xda2i but then I read some of the posts here and got the feeling that most of the users are not satisfied with the xda2i.
Do you recommend me buy a xda2i or do you think imate pda2k is better?
Since xda2i and imate pda2k are very expensive in Turkey ,I really would like to hear your objective suggestions&comments on both xda2i and imate pda2k.
I really need that info before deciding which yo choose.
Thx
Melih Cavli
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Hi,
I have a XDA IIi, now. I bought it two months ago. I like it too much and up to now, it has never had any problems. I used to have some pocket phones and now I don't want to change it. It's my opinion.
Think of it carefully before deciding.
Bye.
I like damn much my device but for your information, there's no upgrade to WM5 for this device. I think it will be available one day....
buy the 2i and flash it with pugs rom, the most stablest u'll find
It is wonderful. you will not regret it
Thx for the feedback.
One more question pls:
Can't I upgrade to Windows Mobile 5.0?
Why?
Thx
melih
as of now -- you can't.
all are hoping like hell that it will be possible one of these days
Melih,
I was also conufed which pda from 2i or PDA2k should i buy since last 2 week. at last i decided to buy XDA2i
Reasons:
1) Faster Processor
2) 1.3 MP Camera
3) Good Shape
4) latest model as compare to PDA2K (2004 Q3) while 2i released in 2004 Q4
i think the only + point of PDA2k is QWERTY keyborad, but it is once if damage due to slim sliding what to do ? , small keys , so i can live without that keyboard (good to have BT keyboard , that i can use with my PC as well)
I dont know what i have lost by not having MP3 ringtone in 2i
Now all upto you i am satisfied what i have purchased
The 2i will play MP3s as ringtones. Place them in the "Windows\Rings" folder.
Thanks Pug ,
Any solid fix for camera? I disappointed by its output (see attachment as it took in day light and not good in quality)
Apparently this is the best car holder / hands free in car for Kaiser at the moment. I found it on sale on the link below but the company is saying they will be stocking only in the end of the month !!!
Anyone know this on sale in UK right now ??
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11918
I bought this around 2 weeks ago. If I'm not mistaken, gpsForLess use ebay.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI#ebayphotohosting
Do you buy this new at ebay ? I thought ebay is only second hand ..
3uk - you can buy new AND 2nd hand stuff on ebay mate
Matt
3uk said:
Do you buy this new at ebay ? I thought ebay is only second hand ..
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Theres probably more shops and dealers selling new stuff with warranty, than people selling used goods.
You can buy both from there.
Looks nice ! But still not able to let you hear the GPS (Tomtom etc) sound??
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Looks nice ! But still not able to let you hear the GPS (Tomtom etc) sound??
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I think it should be able to play sounds from the TYTN II . The good thing about this one is that you get a hands-free. .i.e u get a call , u press a button on the charger and talk. ( The sound comes from the lighter-charger ) it also has a built-in microphone in the corpus of the cradle …. And we know how reliable TYTN II is on speaker…
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Do you buy this new at ebay ? I thought ebay is only second hand ..
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I bought my Kaiser on eBay , and my bluetooth headphones, SD Card, and car kit... All brand new, all work a treat. You haven't lived if you've never bought off ebay
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Theres probably more shops and dealers selling new stuff with warranty, than people selling used goods.
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I agree.
3uk said:
I think it should be able to play sounds from the TYTN II . The good thing about this one is that you get a hands-free. .i.e u get a call , u press a button on the charger and talk. ( The sound comes from the lighter-charger ) it also has a built-in microphone in the corpus of the cradle …. And we know how reliable TYTN II is on speaker…
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I have been reading that the cradles wont get the GPS sound as its not set to be put through the phones connector etc so will only work with the built in speaker
London luke said:
I have been reading that the cradles wont get the GPS sound as its not set to be put through the phones connector etc so will only work with the built in speaker
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Well , the cradle will play the calls sounds - that is something. PLUS it has got a microphone. I haven't tested the TYTN II in-car on speaker , but I know there are problems with the TYTN II microphne when on speaker. So the only reason for this cradle would be the external microphone..
BTW - such a cradle is already on sale - but for some reason it is 51 quid isntead of 24 as the one in dicussion.
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=19184
Hello,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170361323050&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
Is this headset good enough? Because I went to the store here in Belgium and there they ask $ 18 for this headset, original of HTC.
They said 100% new high quality generic (non-OEM) for HTC, can this cause damage when I plug in this headset?
There are also for the HTC magic, I asked the seller.
Greetz,
Dries