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There are two small buttons (each marked with a small horizontal line) on the keyboard. The left is over the letters R and T. It is assigned to the "Send" button for email. The trouble is that it is very easy to hit by accident when typing R or T, and then the email flies off prematurely! The right one is assigned to the Menu and if you hit it by accident, it is easy to correct (just hit the OK button). Is there a way of remapping these two buttons? Except for this issue, the email with Kaiser is perfect. Does the AT&T Tilt have the same problem?
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
dscline said:
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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Err... I don't think this addresses the problem the OP has. I too suffer from this problem (must be big fingers!).
When using Outlook the soft keys change function so remapping the Today Calendar softkey, for example, doesn't help.
Anyone else got a solution to this problem, I'm fed up with sending half-finished e-mails!
I haven't played with AE Button Plus, but if you can assign "No Action" to a button (which some of the add-ons let you do) and do that for the messaging app specifically, then that would be a solution to the problem of large fingers/thumbs. The you could remap one of the FN keys you never use to the context menu or send...
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Err... I don't think this addresses the problem the OP has. I too suffer from this problem (must be big fingers!).
When using Outlook the soft keys change function so remapping the Today Calendar softkey, for example, doesn't help.
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As PerfAlbion pointed out, you can just remap them to nothing. I remapped these keys, not because of the problem with the keyboard, but simply because I never used them since it's just as easy to use the touch screen. But if you want to maintain the softkey functionality on those buttons, use AE button to map a single press to nothing, and a double-click (or even a click-hold) to the softkey function. You would then still be able to use them for their original purpose, but they wouldn't be as easy to accidentally activate.
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As PerfAlbion pointed out, you can just remap them to nothing. I remapped these keys, not because of the problem with the keyboard, but simply because I never used them since it's just as easy to use the touch screen. But if you want to maintain the softkey functionality on those buttons, use AE button to map a single press to nothing, and a double-click (or even a click-hold) to the softkey function. You would then still be able to use them for their original purpose, but they wouldn't be as easy to accidentally activate.
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something obvious here.
Any of the soft button remappers will NOT work on application-specific softkeys - AE ButtonPlus specifically says this in it's FAQ. Remapping the "send" key is application-specific - it only becomes the Send key when you launch Outlook. So how did you manage to re-map this key?
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something obvious here.
Any of the soft button remappers will NOT work on application-specific softkeys...
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The distinction is between remapping the softkey, or remapping the hardkey that correlates to the softkey. What the remappers can't do is change the function of the softkey... if, for example, Outlook is coded to make the left softkey the send key, you can't change that. That's programmed in to Outlook. But what you CAN change is whether or not the hard button that corresponds to the left softkey is recognized as the left softkey. For example, I've remapped the single press of the hard keys that correspond to the L & R softkeys to copy and paste, respectively. If I open Outlook, the soft softkey (the button on the touchscreen) is still going to be send. But my hard button is no longer mapped to be a softkey, it's mapped to be copy.
I used all the programs from the thread that you pointed out, including the cab file that was mentioned. This allowed me to change the left front soft key but does not affect the assignment of the left keyboard soft key as "Reply" when in email mode and with the keyboard slided out. Is there a way to change the left soft key assignment only for the email (eliminate the reply option) or just inactivate the left soft key altogether? I have installed the SoftKey applet form your thread in my Settings.
I sent my reply to one of the earlier messages wihout having read all the answers that came after it....I was out of the office for a couple of hours..my apologies. I will find the AE button plus and give it a try, but is there any registry solution? they usually work the best.
I downloaded and used the AE Button Plus, and it worked! I set it to double press and that did the trick. The program is very good by the way, the only one that allows multiple pressing options, etc.Many thanks!
I have benefited from this thread!
Thanks everybody.
Adequate description on the issue provided, and adequate solutions and then a follow up post.
A really appealing solution would be to isolate the keyboard softkeys from the front ones. I tried the double press method but it turned out to be incredibly annoying and I'm not sure that constant annoyance is outweighed by an accidental softkey hit on the keyboard. What I'd like to do is disable the keyboard softkeys while leaving the front ones completely intact on a single press.
I find it surprising that you even need to use the softkeys, period. I came to the Kaiser from a Smartphone edition phone (no touchscreen), which I had for for over two years. So I was completely accustomed to using the smartkeys. Yet, surprisingly, once I got the Kaiser, I found myself immediately and instinctually accessing their functionality from the touchscreen rather than the hard buttons. Perhaps because the hard buttons aren't directly under the screen like they were on my smartphone, so the tie betwee the label and the button wasn't as obvious as it was on the smartphone.
dscline said:
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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Thank you, AE Button Plus worked great. I just deactivated the "Left Softkey" and now I don't have to take care of that damned button anymore.
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I find it surprising that you even need to use the softkeys, period. I came to the Kaiser from a Smartphone edition phone (no touchscreen), which I had for for over two years. So I was completely accustomed to using the smartkeys. Yet, surprisingly, once I got the Kaiser, I found myself immediately and instinctually accessing their functionality from the touchscreen rather than the hard buttons. Perhaps because the hard buttons aren't directly under the screen like they were on my smartphone, so the tie betwee the label and the button wasn't as obvious as it was on the smartphone.
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I've been using touchscreen pocket pc's for a while and no such instinct has kicked in.
so no one has an answer besides installing that AE button plus prog on the phone?
try removing the actual key. i wouldn't try it but it may work.
I'm really glad I found this thread, I keep sending half written and blank sms messages because of the left soft and keep doing weird things because of the right one. It's gonna cost me a fortune in text messages so I'm gonna go try that prog mentioned.
It would be better for a solution more specific to the application but this is certainly better than nothing!
the best solution I can think of is:
- remove the sender name whilst creating email.
if you accidently hit send it will prompt for sender info. when you are ready to send, simply insert the contact details in and all is well.
hope this helps some of you
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the best solution I can think of is:
- remove the sender name whilst creating email.
if you accidently hit send it will prompt for sender info. when you are ready to send, simply insert the contact details in and all is well.
hope this helps some of you
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I think we have a WINNER SOLUTION
How can I disable these?? The keys above and between "I" and "O", and between "R" and "T"? I hate them. I type incredibly fast and happen to blunder on them at least once per message, email, etc...
I've tried to change my typing style, but that isn't 100% effective and only slows me down.
I would like nothing to happen when I push them. I also do not use the "soft" buttons above the IE and Mail buttons. I don't have issues with accidentally hitting them, though. But if they get disabled with the ones in the full keyboard, it won't bother me (not sure if they're tied together).
I only want the actual onscreen soft buttons to work. Can anyone help?
By the way, I went into Settings > Personal > Buttons, but only 6 are shown (not counting "push and hold").
There are a total of 13 buttons on this thing if you include the push button on the wheel, and don't count the keyboard mappings. 11 buttons if you count the front and inside soft buttons as only 2....
I am currently searching for a solution to the same problem for the same issue. I cannot even count how many times I have accidentally hit the send button when all I wanted was the letter.
I am not that an incredibly fast typist, though.
I use AE Button Plus and this allows you to remap all of the keys to other things as well as map one, two and three presses along with long press.
You could use this to remap one press of the softkey to nothing and two presses to activate the softkey. This would mean that you would have to press them twice to make them work, but would stop teh accidental presses.
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I use AE Button Plus and this allows you to remap all of the keys to other things as well as map one, two and three presses along with long press.
You could use this to remap one press of the softkey to nothing and two presses to activate the softkey. This would mean that you would have to press them twice to make them work, but would stop teh accidental presses.
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Would that have the same affect on the "onscreen" soft buttons (touch screen).
I've just had a quick play and it appears to only affect the hardware buttons, which, I think, is what was originally wanted.
It's a good program, I use it a lot and it's FREE!
Is there nothing someone maybe found to disable these in the registry. I also hate these buttons too.
I'm interested in remapping the ok button (the one on the side, below the scroll wheel, not the one below the end key) to rotate the screen. However, I can't seem to find out how to do anything at all with this button. Can anyone help?
i'd like this also.
I'm wondering if maybe this has to be done within the registry?
i remember reading in a thread before this that the remapping was not possible for that OK button... but i am not sure i could be wrong
try hbutton. it lets you map about anything to the hard buttons. you can map multiple programs to one button too. i use it to map the OK button to close a program, open htc audio, and screen rotate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306794
if you are referring to the ok button on the front of the kaiser, i remapped that button to rotate the screen from; settings>buttons. i am, however, using a sim free htc tytnII. this may not be available in the network branded versions. hope this helps.
sorry misread your post, you were talking about the side one. doh! no i couldn't remap that one either.
at this moment no one can really find the registry for that button. people have tried, i read about 3 posts that had people trying and they were unsuccessfull
i am still also interested in getting that button remapped
AE button plus will remap the side button, except if you are on the today screen, where a press of the button will bring up the start menu.
i currently have it to turn off the phone, since i friggin hate how htc made the real power button so flush with the body, so that if i'm on the today screen, i press it twice quickly to power off the device. the first press brings up the start menu, then the second press will take the focus off the today screen and implement your action. likewise, hitting the side button will turn off the phone if i'm in any sort of application or anything non-today screen.
and mapping this buttom also maps the keyboard ok, so now i'm suddenly without a keyboard ok button
What exactly is this Side Ok Button for anyways? It doesnt act as a confirm button
I would also like to remap the OK button to rotate screen. When I am using Garmin I like to have it rotated for cradle and visual purposes.
Also, don't know if anyone ever noticed this. I have polarized sunglasses, and when my phone is facing up and down like in portrait mode it is not as bright as it could be, but i rotate it like it is in landscape mode and I can see perfect with them on. Weird!
Let me know if this doesn't work out. I wrote apps for the Universal once to assign to any key. But that was a long time ago. I'm sure better solutions exist now.
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You can do it for sure with SPB Pocket Plus & the Shortcut Add-in/Plugin.
I actually made an action sender for this purpose, for another button, but if I get some time , I'll pull out my old work & look.
But SPB PP does allow it for sure. You can map two of anything to that button, one for press & one for press & hold.
Anything new on this?
I've tried some different things...still nothing.
another bump...
bump it up again...anyone know how to remap the OK button (forget the rotate screen)?
Hi all,
Anyone can help to remap the hard button??
I want to change the Home key to Alt-tab, and the Back key change to OK/Close (1 press for ok and long press for real close the application). I have tried AE button plus, but not function very well.
Attached is the Alt-tab s/w i have used.
Don't know why HTC put a Home and Back key in WM pro device
Thank you very much,
did you reset the device after you changed the settings?
yes, but still doesn't work
There's a software called Hbutton. You might wanna try it.
Just tried Hbutton, but it doesn't work on diamond.........
Awww.. now how am I gonna survive on the diamond without Hbutton?!
There's another software called SmartSkeys (or something oike that) Not sure of it'll work.
Anyone got any suggestions on which software to use to map diamond buttons to many functionalities?
This one works on Diamond: AE Button Plus.
To my understanding from testing AEButton on the Diamond, I have realized that:
The HOME key cannot be remapped.
The Back key is essentially a "WIN" key. You can create a new button and remap the Back key. HOWEVER, the shortcuts DOES NOT WORK when you are at today screen. So here is what I do, I remapped the Back key single click to "Escape". double click to close program, long click to close all programs.
Thats the only logical thing i can think about using the back button due to the limitations.
Any ideas?
Escape = ok/close ?
With AEB Plus I managed to map "action long" to "task manager", but the setting doesn't seem to survive a soft reset.
Problem with TouchFLO 3D.
Disable TouchFLO 3D, you might map home/ok button by mappingware.
Setting -> Personal -> Today -> Items
Use SortInchKey, if you enable TouchFLO, you might map VolUp/VolDown/Ok(exclude Today screen) buttons.
Tried AE Button Plus 2.6.3, the "ok" button in AE Button Plus list can refer to back key, my setting is press 1 to minimize, long press to close current application. However, AE Button Plus can't handle the Home button. I already sent a request to them, hope their next version can sort it out.
I'm posting here to find this later. I use AEB on all my devices and want a Diamond. Hopefully it gets "worked out".
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Problem with TouchFLO 3D.
Disable TouchFLO 3D, you might map home/ok button by mappingware.
Setting -> Personal -> Today -> Items
Use SortInchKey, if you enable TouchFLO, you might map VolUp/VolDown/Ok(exclude Today screen) buttons.
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Yes, the mappings worked when TouchFLO was disabled. But when TouchFLO was enabled again, the mappings then didn't work.
Can someone please help me?
I use a golf GPS/Scoring program on my diamond (mobile golf scorer) and on it there is an option to use hardware button to turn display on/off, this keeps the gps active permantly. Its mapped in the program as 'button c' which from what i can tell should be the 'right hardware button' on a usual ppc.
I'm trying to map it as 'back button' using AEBPlus but it will only work on the main diamond screen or 'today' screen. I've tried mapping it to various buttons on the diamond but When i start the golf program it does not work.
Has anyone any ideas? I need to remap a button that will turn the display off no matter what i'm running.
Thanks again
I'd love to change the function of the "Back Button" aswell,
it has been annoying me since the first day I got it.
HButton seemed very promising, but sadly, it doesn't work.
Do hardware keys also have a registry number like the softkeys?
Like 112/113 for the softkeys?
Wondering anyone will use "Home" and "Back" button regularly....Maybe u guys can share your experience on how to smartly use this 2 buttons as I don't have any idea.........
Hello everyone!
This topic is very actual especially on all russian forums (hpc.ru 4pda.ru 4pda.info). Did anyone overcomed this difficulty with remapping hardware buttons? I tryed AEButton Plus but I was unsuccessfull in remapping the dimaond's "back" button - is there any one who did it? Please share the experience - it would be very very usefull to remap this button and to bind it to launching Dynamo3 task manager.
Thanks in advance.
ILya.
None of the programs named here work correctly on the Diamond, including AE Buttons Plus.
However, these buttons CAN be mapped. I know that because the capacitive buttons tester program can detect and show that you pressed these buttons. While this program is active, if you press the home key, it shows that you pressed the home key, but you don't go to the home screen. So it's possible, but only HTC knows how. We need their API's.
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None of the programs named here work correctly on the Diamond, including AE Buttons Plus.
However, these buttons CAN be mapped. I know that because the capacitive buttons tester program can detect and show that you pressed these buttons. While this program is active, if you press the home key, it shows that you pressed the home key, but you don't go to the home screen. So it's possible, but only HTC knows how. We need their API's.
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so this method willn't work too? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355141
the silly part on the htc side is to have 3 of 4 hw buttons do almost the same - if you are in an application, pressing home, back or hang-up button will act as "escape". am i wrong?
for one thing, it would be at least useful to have an "ok" button.
the ideal setup for me would be to use the "go to the tf3d home tab" function of the home key by pressing the "hang-up" button and use the home key as "ok"...
Anyone got this working on the Diamond. Working fine on my old SE W850 - dont know where to start with the Diamond
I'd like this too.
Can only think about doing it via web browser
I use the k800 version and remaP my left and right hardkeys to act as softkeys but the text is tiny!
How do you download the K800 version of Sky Remote?
Sky doesn't let you chose a particular phone during online setup.
Sky By Mobile Java App
Here's the Java app download.
http://mobile.sky.com/SBM/SonyE_novid/SkyMobile_SonyWithoutTv.jar
All I got to do now is try to remap hardkeys!
Got AE Button Plus, but a bit scared of all it can do.
Can Ericsson68 tell us how he remapped hard keys?
Is running TF3D, cos that seems to overwrite hard key functions when run?
Just got round to trying this.
How do i run the file as .jar files are not assosiated with any apprication?
Put .jar file on Diamond first using activesync.
Then run Jblend first and install and run java apps or .jar files from there.
I still can't get it to logon yet.
fillippe said:
Put .jar file on Diamond first using activesync.
Then run Jblend first and install and run java apps or .jar files from there.
I still can't get it to logon yet.
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Have you looked at
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=35
I know that people have had problems. You might find the answer there.
Hi
I used AE button and then remapped the left and right ring keys to long presses = left and right soft keys. I never do long presses on the left and right ring keys so this made sense to me.
Prepare to need a magnifying glass when you do get logged in though. And from experience put your password in before the user name. For some reason doing it the other way around often crashes it.
Ok! Got application working - am able to enter password and user name.
Have tried remaping keys, but dont understand how or why. Could you go through it step by step.
Have a copy of AE Button Plus installed.
Thanks
Another jar file
This one allows the soft keys to work but doesn't actually manage to login for me.
I attach the file for you to try.
Solution!
trice1921 and colthekid worked this solution out at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507152 for the Touch HD / Blackstone. It works for the Diamond as well. I'll copy the solution here and hope the mods don't mind.
The java file is here http://mobile.sky.com/SBM/SonyE_novid/SkyMobile_SonyWithoutTv.jar
The HasKeyboard reg key is important and you will need to disable the volume control in S2U2 if you use it. Enjoy!
Firstly, follow the instructions in the original article posted by gears ie. register on the web for sky mobile and download and install the java software and SkyMobile_SonyWithoutTv.jar file.
Also register for "Remote Record" via your Sky+ box (instructions on the Sky.com website)
Next, as the HD does not have a hardware keyboard, we need to "spoof" the OS into thinking the HD does have one. This is done in one key in the
registry (which I found completely by accident while looking for a different one!).
Goto... "HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Shell" and change the value of "HasKeyboard" to 1
Soft Reset the phone.
We will then need to map some of the buttons to give us up/down/left/right, Enter and Left/Right Soft keys. As NickMilner suggests above, i use "AE Button Plus" and my mapping instructions assume that's what you will use. (the program does cost but i don't know of any other one that provides double, triple and long press options for each key and appears to work well enough in free/trial mode anyway!)
Map the following in AE Button Plus
Volume Up button: Single press - Volume Up
Double press - Press Up Arrow
Triple press - Press Left Arrow
Long press - Press Left Soft Key
Volume Down Button: Single press - Volume Down
Double press - Press Down Arrow
Triple press - Press Right Arrow
Long press - Press Right Soft Key
Green Phone Button: Single Press - Press Green Button
Double Press - Press Enter
I would have liked to use the Red Phone button, but whatever selection i made, the red button always acted as an "Exit" button in the java app, so I went with the above. It's a bit complicated I know with all those double and triple presses, but IT WORKS and i've soon got used to it. I'm sure you could chose your own combination of presses, but the above ones work.
Well, there you go, see if it works for you (I Bl**dy hope so...this has taken me ages to write!!)
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