Have a weird problem and wanted to see if anyone knows a fix.
I have siemens sx66 running wm2003
When using the phone through out the day the phone part of it stops making and recieving calls, even a reset wont fix the issue, after about 5 mins it will reconnect to the network and start to work fine, this happens about 5 times a day. It is not a reception issue since the phone worked fine in my house for the last year, it just started happening.
I upgraded to Helmi AKU3.2 1.3.2b windows mobile 5 and it seems to be more stable. Now when i lose the connection with the network a softreset will allow it to reconnect back to the network. One time when it disconnected i went into device information and for radio rom it said NONE, could this have something to do with the problem, is the phone deleting the radio rom or not seeing it sometimes?
Update:
To try to fix this issue I first smacked it a couple of times, this did nothing to resolve the problem, I then took the entire phone apart to see if there was anything broken, after noticing nothing I smacked the phone a couple of more times. After putting the phone back together the issue is still there.
doing a soft reset when "Radio: NONE" pops up seems to be the only solution.
btw, have you upgraded to Radio 1.15.00?
Hi all.
I'm facing the same issue.
Since I upgraded to Helmi's AKU3.2-1.3.1 I noticed, that the Radio Stack suddenly is lost. You will get no error message. Switching the BA on you will note that the Radio Icon has an "!". Soft resetting will not work. But strange enough, if putting th BA into craddle (or using an USB cable for syncing/charging) and then soft resetting will work, the radio unit is re-enabled again.
I'm now on AKU 3.2-1.3.2 and the issue still exists.
Unfortunately you cannot reproduce this behaviour. Sometimes it happens, but you can be happy and the BA is working for day's without any trouble.
Beside this: the BT stack performance is the worsest I ever met. Just noise, jitter and a very short range using my Headset (Plantronics M2500)
I will try AKU 2.6 this weekend hoping it will be more stable.
yes upgraded to radio rom 1.15 from 1.13 hoping it would fix the issue. Do you guys think the issue is hardware or software?
dr.x
You may want to downgrade from 1.15. There have been several reports in different posts that 1.15 presents several random problems. I installed it for about 2 weeks, but then my phone started making sounds like screetching metal, which led me to believe that I had a loose wire on the speaker or something like that. Then, I remembered about some people complaining about this Radio, so I decided to downgrade. Have not had that problem again. Moreover, I seemed to have weird reception problems in areas where I normally had good signal as well.
All in all, my bets are towards the Radio rather than the BA itself. So, downgrade your Radio and stop hitting your BA before I have to call "BA Services" for domestic violence :wink:
Hope this helps!
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yes upgraded to radio rom 1.15 from 1.13 hoping it would fix the issue. Do you guys think the issue is hardware or software?
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Hi.
I upgraded to Radio ROM 1.15.00 long time ago und as it worked fine.
As I mentioned before, i faced the problems with disappearing Radio Unit first after I upgraded to AKU 3.2-1.3.1
So I suppose, it will have to do with this ROM Version (AKU 3.2-x.x.x)
Regards
Chuck
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I have a O2 XDA IIs. I can't figure out what I did wrong. After the upgrade, no sounds comes thru speakerphone when I receive a call and call out. This happaned after I used the phone for like a half a day without soft reset. Once I soft reset the unit, it went back to normal. I tried going back to 1.02, but the problem remain.
Here is how I did the upgrade. I extract the xdaIIs_launchROM_v1.12.62_178; remove the files ms_.nbf, nk.nbf and radio_.nbf in the directory; downloaded the french 1.06.02; Put just that ROM into the directory. Start BaUpgradeUt and it indicates the old version and the new version and the upgrade went smoothly without any error.
I did the same thing to go back to 1.02. I tried install all my software from scratch without using the backup, but the problem remain.
I read thru most of the thread and saw there is a tool called xda3nbftool. Do I need to use this?
Appreciate anyone can help!!!!
That tool is only needed if you are trying to do none same carier upgrade.
Thus I would need it as to use the o2 rom on my T-mobile I would need to fix it with that tool and a fix.bat (wiki, getting started)
In your case you are doing a same carrier upgrade.
This should work out of the box (as in run the ship exe).
Most of us have done a radio only upgrade using the 1.06.02 FRA, and have not had any problems.
In your case I would reflash using the launch rom, try it out an you might have a hardware problem.
What I read that you did looks correct.
Only thing I am not sure is did you do a Hard reset after the install ?? But I am sure you did.
Your problem is not the upgrade, I had the same problem when I was using 1.02 radio rom and THAT'S WHY I upgraded to 1.06.02.. The problem seems to be random so far and there's no real fix as far as I know. Do a search, you're not alone with this problem...
I have that problem too when using 1.02, but after flashing to 1.06.02. This problem did still appear twice - I think this is the signal reception problem. You might try to notice that whether this happens always in the same area you are in.
Thanks for all the input. I did not have this problem before I tinker with the Radio ROM. So, I am thinking this may actually related to the ROM flash. I don't think it's related to reception since my provider coverage is very good. I am giving it another try and may ended up sending it in for repair. Having to soft reset every few hours is not fun.
Regards,
leochan2005 said:
I have that problem too when using 1.02, but after flashing to 1.06.02. This problem did still appear twice - I think this is the signal reception problem.
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I also had this on 1.06.00 and 1.06.02 radio. After upgrading to 1.33 main ROM (from Siemens SX66) I have not noticed such problems. I've also noticed that you'll never have such a problem whan you have a bonded headset, even when headset is powered off.
mamaich said:
leochan2005 said:
I have that problem too when using 1.02, but after flashing to 1.06.02. This problem did still appear twice - I think this is the signal reception problem.
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I also had this on 1.06.00 and 1.06.02 radio. After upgrading to 1.33 main ROM (from Siemens SX66) I have not noticed such problems. I've also noticed that you'll never have such a problem whan you have a bonded headset, even when headset is powered off.
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mamaich, I think you are correct. I tried this yesterday by bonding my bluetooth headset which I did not do after the radio ROM upgrade. So far, the problem does not re-surface using the phone for more than 12 hours without soft resetting. What else does the 1.33 main ROM change?
that problem appear 4 times today. When a number get connected, time started counting, no we could not hear each other. Each time I need to soft reset.
Also, using Spite backup 3.14 to recover previous backup including mms and sms, mms cannot be received any more (I sent myself one), but sms ok.
My god! hard reset again....install everything again.
ok. some update. It happened again even I have the bonded blue tooth device. I notice however, if I go activate bluetooth and disable it, it comes back to normal without soft reset.
It seems no one can find out what is happening on the radio of XDAIIs
Hi
I have the newest firmware version installed on my Qtek 9090 (BA_WWE_14000_147_11200_Ship), and I experience a problem again which I had first when I bought my Qtek but was gone after I had installed Radio version 1.08.00:
Once a day I have to reset my Qtek because I can't hear the one I am calling - usually this happens when I call my mobile phone's answer phone. The phone gets connected but I don't hear anything. After a soft reset everything is fine again.
Is this a known issue? Any solutions to it? Ok - I know I can downgrade to 1.08 again but I dont really wanna do that. And yes, I can stop calling my anser phone ....
Anyone knowing what is causing the problem?
Reagrds,
A
I had the same problem with my Qtek 9090 until I stopped use the Bluetooth feature completely. Since then, everything is fine.
tot 1.12 radio has solved the "no sound" issue.
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tot 1.12 radio has solved the "no sound" issue.
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I cannot verify this, i have an mda3, upped it to R1.12 but i had many "no sound" problems. Now i downgraded to R1.10 and had not a single no sound issue ..yet
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keeping_sg said:
tot 1.12 radio has solved the "no sound" issue.
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I cannot verify this, i have an mda3, upped it to R1.12 but i had many "no sound" problems. Now i downgraded to R1.10 and had not a single no sound issue ..yet
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i have tried 1.06 & 1.10, all are having that issue. that's why i have upgraded to 1.12 so far so good. umm.....................strange..
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ThExSenatoR said:
keeping_sg said:
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I cannot verify this, i have an mda3, upped it to R1.12 but i had many "no sound" problems. Now i downgraded to R1.10 and had not a single no sound issue ..yet
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i have tried 1.06 & 1.10, all are having that issue. that's why i have upgraded to 1.12 so far so good. umm.....................strange..
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For me, radio 1.12 delivered:
- worse signal reception
- higher battery consumption
- still no sound issue.
flashed twice & still having the bloody "no sound" issue. really give up. i think the next thing to change is the motherboard. sigh.........................
I had never had this issues untill I upgraded my Radio to 1.12 and then I had it 5 times in one day, went back to 1.10, no more issues
Hmm. This is a really 'odd' problem. I didn't originally have this problem with my SX66. Then, it just 'popped up' one day, and I can't seem to get rid of it.
I have tried different ROM versions (currently 1.40), and my radio version is at 1.10.
I have NEVER used radio 1.12, so I know that's not the CAUSE.
We need to compile a list of people with the problem, and see exactly what combination of ROM and Radio they have, as well as the programs they have installed.
if you read the cingular forums, there are a few folks there that say they have had it all along so I am not sure where to start...
umm....... different ppl have different problem. seems like it's a integration issue.
If you go to some HK forums, you will also find a lot of people suffering from this.
To me, I seldom use it as a phone. I only use it to receive emails and website browsing. When I go overseas and I used it as a phone with a BT handsfree (shut down GPRS connection), everything is just fine. I only encountered once with no sound problem when I take away my BT handsfree on a plane....
It's definitely a bug since a long time ago with old and new versions.....
Sad....and disappointed......
Hi all,
I upgraded my phone to the 1.12 radio along with the 1.40 CE ROM and am always resetting due to the "can't hear caller" issue and I never had this problem before.
I'm going to do a hard reset and see if that helps (clear out all the apps and use it for a day or so). If this doesn't work, I shall revert back to the 1.10 as I had no problems with that.
ROM 1.40.00
Radio 1.12.00
EXT ROM 1.13.139 (with Updated CallerID [1.20] and older version of O2 Active [3.0])
This cant hear caller issue, is it cant AT ALL hear caler or caller is so faint I cant hear him.
I ask as sometimes I get calls that are faint however when the caller rings back it fine. Not sure if its crap reseption or the device.
I got O2IIs from UK and had the same "No sound" problem. I have to SR about 5 times daily to sort it out. However, if I turn off Bluetooth (pairing with my Bluetrek G2) then everything's OK.
My ROM version is 1.31.00 WWE, Radio : 1.10.00, ExtROM: 1.31.139 WWE and BT 1.0.0 Build 3500
Had up to BT 3900 but wont help. Gonna up radio to 1.12. Will post the outcome soon.
I've only experience the problem once since the imate 1.40 upgrade.
Now, I must say that I don't use the phone THAT heavily.
I upgrade to 1.40 EX, it seems working fine, still the sound quality is not good enough...
people!
A guy called Derek has posted a possible solution to this problem here! http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=118364
It involves removing the Bluetooth for the startup because he believes that even with the bluetooth off, the unit is still trying to connect to a bluetooth headset.
I'm going to remove/unpair my Bluetooth Headset and see if that makes a difference. If anyone else can try this and post results I'm sure this would help loads of people.
Dom
Please confirm this and I will post it to wiki
@xdadom,
It's correct. As I mentioned in my post, when I "turned off" Bluetooth, everything's OK. The way I "turned off" Bluetooth is exactly the same with Derek did in his post, i.e. delete "Run_BTTrayCE" from Windows\StartUp\
However, I still need Bluetooth for my hand-free device. In my opinion, it's rather a trick, not a solution to kill "No sound" problem. Anyway, we can wait the updated BT version from supplier to sort it out.
Just flashed my XDA IIs with both roms. Now using Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 R2 . The problems I have are when taking out of the cradle the phone will soft reset its self, but not come back with the radio stack or the other numbers before wm2k5.
if I do a soft reset it all comes back fine.
Tried re flashing just the radio but didn’t help.
I think it may have something to do with the cradle, as with the other rom, and the old rom the XDA would shut down when you put it in the cradle.
there is something about this issue i think in the helmi 1.3 rom discussion...i had the same problem, but after upgrading it was ok...
Radio Signal Drop Problem
Hi xplode.
Very happy using the R4 rom,faster and having good interface to work with it...Thanks
After flashing your Rom i have started knowing this Many time Radio signal drops and call disconnects at the Same time if we try to make out going call signal strength is full but call doesnt get completed message appears on the top of the Screen as after Soft Reset Method done calling starts working.
This Problem As actually started after actual USE of the Phone 48hrs.
Required soultion for the same .
NOTE: this problem was not there with earlier R3 rom as its been tested too on my Ba .
ROM VERSION ...5.35.04 wwe
ROM DATE ...11/02/06
RADIO ....1.15.00
Protocol version..1337.45
Extrom ...xplode_2.0
nyuszi said:
there is something about this issue i think in the helmi 1.3 rom discussion...i had the same problem, but after upgrading it was ok...
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I have tried a few roms now, and it will do it on all of them. It can be a pain because if the unit soft resets its self with me knowing the phone wont work.
anybody got any ideas?
still haveing problems with unit turning off or soft reseting when put in cradle, might it be related?
My Vario III suddenly stops recording sound properly via the built in
microphone. If I make a call when this is happening the other person cannot hear me or sound quality is very poor and if I use htc voice-recorder the sound seems very far away with occasional loud distortion. If I plug in my external headphones and use that mic the sound is absolutely fine.
This problem seems to just appear and then can just go. A soft reset makes no difference. A hard reset or flashing the radio or rom has, so far, always solved the problem - until it happens again which could be in a few hours, days or even weeks.
I can't link the problem to any particular software that runs.
I've tried flashing several different radios. I still get exactly the same problem. My local repairer says it won't be the mic as they either break or they work - not coming and going as I have.
Has anyone any suggestions for what I could try to fix this? Suspect software? Should I just keeping working my way through new radio roms? Do you think it is actually the mic in the phone?
I can't find quite this problem described anywhere else so your help would be very much appreciated. Many thanks.
Currently
Dutty's WM6.1 WWE
Radio 1.70.18.02
Protocol 25.83.40.02W
Originally: (when problem started)
Rom 1.56.110.4 (T-mobile UK?)
Radio 1.27.12.32
birminghamuk said:
My local repairer says it won't be the mic as they either break or they work - not coming and going as I have.
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Then go see somewhere else, they're not reliable...
A bad contact causing an intermittent failure is one of the most common problems in electronic devices...
I'm having the exact same problem on my Vodafone V1615. Funny thing is, my radio ROM was the same as yours when the problems began. I waited till the Vodafone V1615 WM 6.1 ROM update, and installed it. It worked, for a few weeks, and then the problem returned. Vodafone does not want to fix it for me
Hello tha_bulldog
When your mic stops working have you found a reliable way to get it working again?
Long shot but does this thread help??? The problem was the way the user holds the phone, covering the mic with their hand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360271
Occasionally I have a problem where when making or receiving calls I pick up and there is no sound. If I Soft Reset I can make the call and it works fine. It's been starting to happen more often recently, and is really bugging me. It happens both when I'm using the phone speaker, and my headset.
what rom are you using? I have noticed the same thing the last couple of days since upgrading to L26 M2D v1
ah, here it is the same thread.
I use WM 6.1 htc version
Is there no bugfix?
Have you tried flashing a new radio?
Ta
Dave
data at info:
ROM: 3.28.407.0 GER
funkempfänger (i guess it's the radio): 1.65.16.25
protocoll: 25.83.40.02H
it was updated with the new htc 6.1 version what i've heard.
or can i downgrade it to a version that is working fine? when yes, where is the file to do so..
Right now I'm using Radio 1.58.16.27, I'll try another one, which do you recommend?
I was using 1.65.29.22, switched to 1.65.24.36 (I was using this with L26 diamond V12 with no issues)
had the same issue today.
hm, looks like a big upcoming problem for everyone...
what roms does everyone have? any "recently added" apps or changes?
ill start
L26_KaiserTouch_V1_M2D
NETCF 3.5
HTC AudioManager_2_0_1819_2129
Opal stuff
virusv69 said:
what roms does everyone have? any "recently added" apps or changes?
ill start
L26_KaiserTouch_V1_M2D
NETCF 3.5
HTC AudioManager_2_0_1819_2129
Opal stuff
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Old thread but still, I've been experiencing this issue on the Hyperdragon series of ROMs from late October. Also had this problem in the past on some of Dutty's roms. The latest Raphael version (15/11/2008) has not exhibited this problem in 4 days. Only difference I can see is a slightly newer version of MSVC (1.6.19965).
Cheers.
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hm, looks like a big upcoming problem for everyone...
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I am getting the same problem intermittently, with a soft reset as the solution.
I am running a bone stock AT$T rom,recently upgraded to 6.1. It started happening post upgrade.
An upgrade problem?
same here... im playing around with different radios, it has to be a radio issue imo
I would just love to have this issue solved. It's not new whatch here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383539
Peregrine
1stPeregrine said:
I would just love to have this issue solved. It's not new whatch here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383539
Peregrine
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My phone rings and notifies just fine when Texts,emails and calls come in. It answers just fine, but there is no sound. Then when I try to call people back, there is no dial sound and the call appears to not go through, until I do a soft reset, then all is back to normal.....................for a while.......................
I'm having this issue also. The other party can hear me when I answer, but I can't hear anything after the initial incoming-call ringing. A power-cycle restores normal operation but only for a while.
ROM: 3.28.405.0 WWE, 05/02/2008
Radio: 1.71.09.01
Protocol: 25.75.40.02.eMo
I'm in same boat as everyone else here.
Sometimes my phones rings, but when I answer I have no sound and other party can't hear me. Other times, my phone doesn't ring and all audio is muted (despite volume on). Soft reset is the only thing that works for me.
I gotta say this is really pissing me off. I'm missing lots of important calls because my phone doesn't ring when it should, or if I'm lucky it rings but has no audio so I have to soft-reset and wait 5 minutes for my phone to reboot & re-establish signal all whilst my clients are trying repeatedly to call me.
I'm willing to try other radios, but no one seems to have any working suggestions.
Thought maybe it was software, since I don't remember this happening after my initial WM6.1 upgrade. Uninstalling S2U2 didn't work (happened again today). Just uninstalled Voice Command, too, but haven't tested yet. VC's been flaky since upgrading to 6.1, working sometimes, failing to announce calls other times, plus occasional VC crashes at boot claiming "out of memory" which is blatantly untrue.
Just out of curiousity, is everyone with this problem using Voice Command, or just some of us?
Think I might have to go back to WM 6.0 since 6.1 didn't solve my Bluetooth issues plus screwed up Destinator...oh well. Schap's WM6 4.31 was best ROM anyway.
Anyone having any luck with this problem?
Like I said, I was running AT$T WM6 with no issues. The I updated to WM6.1 and started having these call issues.
Last week I flashed to HD III still no joy. SJ says that he is running the same radio as me, 1.65.24.36 with no problems.
Is it " my " phone? Microsuck 6.1 ? The radio ? Has anyone solved this with a new radio flash ?
I run a business on this phone and it is getting really frustrating, I don't want to go back to 6.0 just so I can get my phone calls?
I'm not just whining, looking for sucess stories.
Hi, havent been here in a while but i thought i'd add to the list. I have recently flashed HD3 (one of the early november editions) and it was without problems until friday when i dropped my fone. Ever since then i have had the intermittent sound in call which is only fixed by a soft reset (exactly the same as denco7). I haven't changed the radio since dutty's 1st diamond rom (a while ago) as i haven't had any problems but now im thinking about it.
Current setup (from device info):
ROM version: HD_III_Jade WWE
ROM date: 09/30/08
Radio version: 1.65.24.36
Protocol version: 25.94.40.06H
Not using MSVC
Recently flashed to HD III Blackstone hoping this might work but still having the problem.
I also flashed radios 1.65.24.36 and 1.70.18.02
and now I am running 1.70.19.09....... and it is still happening. It has got to be something in WM 6.1. Cannot be a software conflict, because it was happening when I was running bone stock AT$T 6.1 upgrade with no software add ons.
Again, I would hate to think that I have to downgrade to 6.0 just to get my phone calls.
Damn WM6.1 sound!
Well, I thought I'd let everyone know that I've uninstalled all my favorite apps from my Kaiser. No MSVC, no S2U2, occasional hands-free Bluetooth, and no A2DP. In that time, I've had only 2 incidents of no sound for the last 3 weeks--much better than no sound every few days or even several times a day. Don't know that the apps have anything to do with it since denco7 had same problem on an unadulterated AT&T ROM.
The big question is why do we all have the same sound problem but most WM6.1 Kaiser users do not (if everyone did I'm sure there would be a lot more *****ing). If we could reproduce it at will, we'd at least have something to focus on. Not knowing that, I'll have to guess and say that I suspect one or more of the following:
WM6.1 and/or the 1.65+ radios required for WM6.1 introduced some sound bug (deadlock, dereferenced pointer, etc.). The more apps that interact with sound and/or the radio, the more likely the bug will be triggered. But even if this is true, why does it happen to us but not to others?
The bug exists only in a particular base ROM source used by the ROM cookers. Still, should be affecting more people.
Maybe people who customize their phones are more likely to reset and clear any conditions that lead to no sound? Doesn't seem likely, but hey...
The problem exists only in specific Kaiser versions, perhaps even in conjunction with only specific WM6.1 builds and/or radios. I think there's been 5+ different hardware versions of the Kaiser line, but I can't find where I read this or how to tell what version your Kaiser is.
Bluetooth affecting sound? Got absolutely nothing to back this up other than WM6.1 supposedly fixed a lot of Bluetooth problems and during the time of my frequent lockups, I was using A2DP to stream an audiobook to my car's Parrot MK6000. Finished the audiobook & quit traveling so much, so I rarely used Bluetooth during the last few weeks when I've had only 2 no sound incidents. BTW, I upgraded to WM6.1 specifically because of the Bluetooth fixes, hoping they fixed the 100% CPU usage after finishing a hands-free call and fixed the A2DP dropping after calls. WM6.1 didn't fix either, so what did they do? Maybe their "fixes" just introduced new problems?
Possible dead zone f'ing up the radio and consequently sound? I offer this only because when I was working in a particular dead zone I had frequent sound problems. For some reason, my phone has problems reconnecting after leaving this dead zone and I have to reboot. Occasionally it would reconnect without rebooting, but I never correlated this to no sound. However, I haven't been there in weeks, and my problems with sound decreased (although I also uninstalled apps & quit using Bluetooth as much). Went there last Friday, and while I was there I found I had no Windows sounds. Could dead zones or even just temporary signal loss be f'ing up the radio and consequently the sound?
These are all just guesses--I'm just throwing out some possibilities so we can find something in common between us. However, I gotta say that if I don't find a solution soon, I'm going to switch back to WM6. Threaded messages are nice, but they're not worth this no sound headache.
BTW, I'm using:
AT&T Tilt (purchased within a month of initial release)
ROMeOS v4.21.1 (OS v5.2.20273, AKU 1.3.3)
Radio 1.71.09.01