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Since my diamond will be ariving today i wanted to ask peoples opinion on the (included) screen protector.
- Is it necesarry you think?
- Does it make the screen better (i read somewhere the screen is staticy and with the protector its better
- Did anyone not use it, then apply it and decide it was better/worse? Or use it, then remove it? I'm looking for someone who might be able to compare directly the difference with/without it.
- Does it look odd?
- Can you tell the screen protector is applied?
- Does it have any negative impact on the screen - make it less clear, or make the touch less sensative?
I'm sure everyone will have their own opinion, but i would like to make a decision right away while the screen is clean, and not after a few days when it gets really greasy
I put mine on right after I unpacked and I do not regret ... It`s almost invisible. Screen is clear ... readable. Putting on was easy. I do not want to risk scratching my screen
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- Is it necesarry you think?
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for me, yes. i hate scratches on my screen
someone1234 said:
- Does it look odd?
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no, not at all
someone1234 said:
- Can you tell the screen protector is applied?
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no, it fits perfectly
someone1234 said:
- Does it have any negative impact on the screen - make it less clear, or make the touch less sensative?
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have not noticed any negative impacts
i really would recommend to use it
cheers,
chaos42
Diamond just arived.. i havnt peeled the front plastic off yet - dont worry i'm not one of those people who lets it stay there till it looks like ****!
I'll just wait to see if there are any more comments. But right now i'm leaning towards using screen protector.
and btw.. this phone is amazing - pictures and videos dont do it justice!
someone1234 said:
Diamond just arived.. i havnt peeled the front plastic off yet - dont worry i'm not one of those people who lets it stay there till it looks like ****!
I'll just wait to see if there are any more comments. But right now i'm leaning towards using screen protector.
and btw.. this phone is amazing - pictures and videos dont do it justice!
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Lucky so and so...congrats mate...now i just have to wait for mine...as for the screen protector??, id definitely use one. I have one on my ipod touch even though its supposedly scratch resistant. I was under the impression that the Diamond screen was also scratch resistant
yes but you never know and better to use "protection" that to be sorry later ...
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- Is it necessary you think?
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Yes, I would definitively recommend to use it.
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- Does it make the screen better (i read somewhere the screen is staticy and with the protector its better)
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Would not say the screen looks better with it but it is certainly better than scratching your screen.
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- Did anyone not use it, then apply it and decide it was better/worse? Or use it, then remove it? I'm looking for someone who might be able to compare directly the difference with/without it.
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I used it right away after opening the pack so I cannot say.
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- Does it look odd?
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Not at all - after some days of use it is now like a second skin to the screen - I almost don't notice it anymore.
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- Can you tell the screen protector is applied?
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As chaos42 said, it fits perfectly.
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- Does it have any negative impact on the screen - make it less clear, or make the touch less sensitive?
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I have not noticed any negative impact so far after 1 week of use.
well i sutck it on.. i was slightly bent but bubble free.. i removed it.. got read to realign it.. got dust underneath.. stuck it on and bubbles..
Massive failure! i never have any luck with screen protectors.. my tryng to make it perfect always screws me up!
remove it - wash it ... use dust remover ... ... since Diamond has no bevels at rear of the screen applying is even easier that with my previous devices ... how to do it ? simply take Credit Card ... put first third of the protector onto screen. From other side put Credit Card and start pushing it while rolling protector onto screen. there should be no bubbles then.
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remove it - wash it ... use dust remover ... ... since Diamond has no bevels at rear of the screen applying is even easier that with my previous devices ... how to do it ? simply take Credit Card ... put first third of the protector onto screen. From other side put Credit Card and start pushing it while rolling protector onto screen. there should be no bubbles then.
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ok so wash it with water? How should i dry it?
I have aerosol air and a glass cloth to clean the diamond.
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well i sutck it on.. i was slightly bent but bubble free.. i removed it.. got read to realign it.. got dust underneath.. stuck it on and bubbles..
Massive failure! i never have any luck with screen protectors.. my tryng to make it perfect always screws me up!
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Hehe i usually get my brother to do these sort of things for me...hes much better than i am.
Was the screen protector sticky under the side you put on the phone??. If it isnt then one thing i noticed when my brother put my screen protector on my old SE P990i was he dropped a few drops of water on the side of the protector that goes on the phone...so you can easily slide it about till you have it perfect etc.
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ok so wash it with water? How should i dry it?
I have aerosol air and a glass cloth to clean the diamond.
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dont dry it, just let the water excess drop off it naturally then stick it on the phone...like i said in my earlier post, it will make the protector easier to slide about to get the perfect fit. Once you have then seal it down with a credit card pushing the air and excess water off the side. You probably will still have a few air bubbles but over time they will disappear.
great advice thanks!!
I got a couple of tiny bubles i'm working towards the side of the screen and out. That should keep me entertained for the next 10 mins lol.
Almost 100% bubble free now
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great advice thanks!!
I got a couple of tiny bubles i'm working towards the side of the screen and out. That should keep me entertained for the next 10 mins lol.
Almost 100% bubble free now
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No problems, glad to hear you got it sorted out lol.
Hmm i think i can see water marks underneath..
I got to run out now.. not even any time to install anything on it
I think i'll give it one more shot when i get back. At least for now i can take it with me and it wont get trashed!
I hate screen protectors - have always taken them off after 24 hours on every HTC device I have ever had. They usually tint the screen, make it too reflective and reduce the sensitivity and accuracy of the device.
However, I read the above comments and thought I'd give it a go anyway (same as I do with each device).
Blow me - it turns out that for once the HTC screen protector is excellent. You do not notice it there at all.
Very impressed!
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I hate screen protectors - have always taken them off after 24 hours on every HTC device I have ever had. They usually tint the screen, make it too reflective and reduce the sensitivity and accuracy of the device.
However, I read the above comments and thought I'd give it a go anyway (same as I do with each device).
Blow me - it turns out that for once the HTC screen protector is excellent. You do not notice it there at all.
Very impressed!
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Damn you!
I read the first bit and though great i wont have to bother redoing it, but now i do
I ordered a Brando UltraClear screenprotector because I heard great things about these things. It turned out to be true for me.
I always hated screenprotectors because they dimmed my screen and were ugly. This one you can't see and the screen is as bright as without! Excellent!
i fiddled and fiddled with it, but its a mess. I'll order a new one i think.
Biggest complaint so far for me is with touch flow u keep accidentally clicking stuff. Its a big pain in the ass. And its not because i'm clumsy, its just a combination of poor responsivness and bad timeout to calculate what you want to do.
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i fiddled and fiddled with it, but its a mess. its just a combination of poor responsivness and bad timeout
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If you mean the responsivness of the touschscreen, this can be adjusted in the registry. The responsivness of the touchflo3d itself on the other hand we have to live with
I've tried several of the tweaks from here on the forum, but it doesn't change it significantly... Not that I'm not happy with te phone... because I am
Hi
Did just now try to take a picture with and without the backcover on the phone, and without it, the picturs just looks so much more colorful and nice. How do we fix this?
An example: img851[dot]imageshack[dot]us/g/img047d.jpg/
Change the [dot] to real dots. (duh)
Sorry for bad eng, but I hope you understand.
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Did just now try to take a picture with and without the backcover on the phone, and without it, the picturs just looks so much more colorful and nice. How do we fix this?
Sorry for bad eng, but I hope you understand.
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I also have this question after saw the LG VS iPhone photo and video quality test. The O2x's photo like have a white filter and non colorful .
I already ordered it and waiting for arrive. Can u post some compare photo? The original and without the back cover?
Is it possible to replace the Transparent part by DIY a higher quality glass/plastic?
It's night here, so only indoor photos, but you'll get the idea.
And WHY do LG-Home FC every single time I put it into USB Mass Storage? Need custom roms, now!
Anyways, here's the link to some photos packaged with winrar. The last two is shot in a half-dark room with the flash.
www[dot]megaupload[dot]com/?d=NRUVCSR0
Apparently I couldn't post links, so change the [dot] to actual dots.
Kruppin, I get "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later" when I try to download. Got another location to dl from?
Edit: Nevermind, the link is working again
Thanks!
I did try this myself now, but couldn't see any difference. But it might be because its dark here now and cant really get any good shots anyway.
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Kruppin, I get "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later" when I try to download. Got another location to dl from?
Edit: Nevermind, the link is working again
Thanks!
I did try this myself now, but couldn't see any difference. But it might be because its dark here now and cant really get any good shots anyway.
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Ofc you get it working right when i've uploaded it elsewhere. Hm, maby you've got a better glass, cus if i look through it, it's like "milky" or something. Anyway, another guy on swedroid noticed it too, so I thought it was for everyone.
Kruppin, yeah typical I'l probably try this tomorrow. Lets just hope there's a replacement cover to order somewhere soon if this really is the case
Btw, thanks for the info!
I tried this myself and i couldn't believe my eyes, the difference is pretty massive.
on the plus-side the camera is actually REALLY good without the back cover on
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I tried this myself and i couldn't believe my eyes, the difference is pretty massive.
on the plus-side the camera is actually REALLY good without the back cover on
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Yeah, it's like "Wait, I'm just gonna take the backcover of so I can get a decent picture"
But I just can't beleve LG made THIS of a big screwup, i mean, I don't know what to say, I'm speachless. And also they didn't say it had "gorilla glass" which only that can be deal-breakers for many. I think they rushed this phone alittle too much. Dont get me wrong, I love it, but it's some small things I just can't understand how they missed. If LG would replace the backcovers, then I would absolutly love them, but that wont ever happen so hopefully someone releases a replacement cover with a better glass, and looks as nice as LGs own.
Okay, some strong alcohol and very much polishing have made it almost as good as w/o. Yay. Just to polish with a cloth didn't work, which is why I made this thread. So try that.
Can you...somehow remove (gently) the plastic glass from the back cover?
edit, im looking at some pics of the back cover, seems impossible to remove it w/o damaging the rest....thank you LGGGGG
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Okay, some strong alcohol and very much polishing have made it almost as good as w/o. Yay. Just to polish with a cloth didn't work, which is why I made this thread. So try that.
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OReally?
What kind of tools should I use for the polishing?
Only alcohol is need? Any other material?
Question is: is it really the glass itself that causes the problem ?
Or could it be that because of the bad positioning of the lens cover fingerprints / dirt can easaly create a fatty film on the glass?
Did you polish the front AND back of the glass or just the side facing outwards?
sounds to me like it could be related to the light sensor being disturbed by the cover
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Question is: is it really the glass itself that causes the problem ?
Or could it be that because of the bad positioning of the lens cover fingerprints / dirt can easaly create a fatty film on the glass?
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Yes and no, it must be some bad glass, becouse it's enough to just have one fingerprint and the pics sucks again. Or if its too far from the actual lens, so its that what f*cks it up? (It kind of focuses alittle one the fat/dirt) However, I've never got this problem with any other phone, my old N900 for example doesn't care if it's got fingerprints or not. Ofc it doesnt have two glass like the LG have, but thats no excuse.
atkhobby: Yes, I polished both sides of the batterycover. I drained some "cottonsticks" (tops) with alcohol and just polished. BUT, when i touched the glass on the cover again, the picture is worse, but not as bad as first.
Maybe someone knows of something that make glas fat-resistent? I mean, some phones the screen just get fatty almost directly, and some is very resistant and can be cleaned easy.
And again, I hope you can understand my not so good english.
hii people i need some help here i have bought a samsung galaxy s with a broken screen glass thinking it would be cheap and easy to replace just the glass, and i have bought the glass from ebay and can tear down the phone but i dont know what to do when i get to the screen how do i seperate it and is their a touch layer under their or what and if anyone could suggest any good tutorials or pictures to help me understand then that would be great because it is not as easy as it seems lol :/ and please dont suggest that i buy a new screen all together because i do not have enough money and i might aswell buy a new phone for the price of an AMOLED lol thnx and plz feel free to PM me
You're wrong from the very beginning
The hardest part to separate in the Galaxy S is the AMOLED screen and the gorilla glass
because they are strongly attached together. It would be very hard if not impossible to separate them without damaging the AMOLED screen
i had this problem but there is help .. i for one done it the hard way and cracked the glass more on the screen very hard to do .. then picked it away with a very small metal pick . look at one of my posts its on here and trust me can be done and then it gets a bit harder putting new glass back on as one the touch dont work right but dw that can be sorted first buy a really thin screen protector then lay that on then lay the new glass over that and touch works fine .. hope this helps but there is a high level of one skill and to a real big risk of fakin up ur screen when picking away at it ..
thnx thats gave me allot more confidence and hope in doing this and succeeding thnx u have inspired me to actually attempt it and i myt aswell because if it works then iv done it the cheep option and if i dont try il never know if the cheap option is possible and achieveable and could uu post a link of your thread please so i can read it much thnx
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i had this problem but there is help .. i for one done it the hard way and cracked the glass more on the screen very hard to do .. then picked it away with a very small metal pick . look at one of my posts its on here and trust me can be done and then it gets a bit harder putting new glass back on as one the touch dont work right but dw that can be sorted first buy a really thin screen protector then lay that on then lay the new glass over that and touch works fine .. hope this helps but there is a high level of one skill and to a real big risk of fakin up ur screen when picking away at it ..
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how did you crack the gorilla glass more what tool did you use and how plz reply need help thnx
I'm in your same situation, and the solution that daleford2k10 proposes sounds great.
But I have some questions to ask you:
1) Where did u get the glass replacement?
2) What about the touch buttons (menu and back)? Because as I have seen in some disassembling videos they are strong glued. It is possible to get out (or break) the glass above them?
3) Did u tried with a hair-dryer first?
Thanks for your help
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I'm in your same situation, and the solution that daleford2k10 proposes sounds great.
But I have some questions to ask you:
1) Where did u get the glass replacement?
2) What about the touch buttons (menu and back)? Because as I have seen in some disassembling videos they are strong glued. It is possible to get out (or break) the glass above them?
3) Did u tried with a hair-dryer first?
Thanks for your help
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iv not tried anything yet as the hair dryer is concerned i got my glass from ebay
www (dot) ebay (dot) co (dot) uk/itm/Front-Glass-Lens-LCD-and-touch-screen-not-included-Samsung-Galaxy-S-i9000-/170739151176?pt=UK_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item27c0d8b148#ht_2226wt_1270[/url]
but i dont know if you are a uk resident but you can get it from Hong Kong too and im taking it easy asin trying to get as much info as possible first to do this before i do it oh and i dont think the buttons will cause that much of a problem and anyway if they do break but the screen doesn't its still a win as the buttons would only cost abit and i have also seen some disassembly videos but none separating the glass if you have could you post a link thnx
Finally I got the glass from ebay (the same one as the guy of this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21224865&postcount=238), but delivered from Hong Kong.
I haven't been able to find any videos of this neither... But as both jondale and devonblue4u say, I think it would be just a question of patience and being careful.
Good luck! As I think you will receive your glass first than me (it's going to take around 15 days according to the seller), please post some photos or videos once u do it.
success?
i am about to buy a SGS 1 smashed, but any of you two guys succeed in replacing the glass ONLY? i know i have just bought a dead thread back lol but sorry need to know. thanks
I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that it was done successfully once, but the person who did it had access to the glue used for sticking the screen to the glass, so he wasn't normal by any means. My suggestion? Suck it up and get both the screen and the display. The glass was not meant to be replaceable on its own.
I'm in the process of replacing mine. You can get the glass separated from the amoled using lots of patience,a heat gun, and very thin plastic of some sort. I used a variety of things including a business card, credit card and a very thin steel flat mrasuring tool. The key is heat and moving slowly. Lots of videos on youtube. when you are done there will be lots of glue on the screen, but it comes off by carefully rubbing it. Also, as crazy as it sounds wd40 gets rid of the rest. Saw this on youtube and was skeptical, but tried it and it worked. Cleaned the amoled with rubbing alcohol afterwards. I'm currently using my S with just the amoled while I wait for the new glass too arrive. Also, with the new glass, you won't put glue on the amoled, but around the outsides - again, youtube is yourfriend.
Hello guys, I have a Samsung Galaxy S GT-i9000 ...
I found some code for this machine, and place a code of the camera, and I was without a camera, now I can not go back to the camera, and some systems already installed some android to fix this error .... will someone help me?
very grateful ...: Confuso:
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I'm in the process of replacing mine. You can get the glass separated from the amoled using lots of patience,a heat gun, and very thin plastic of some sort. I used a variety of things including a business card, credit card and a very thin steel flat mrasuring tool. The key is heat and moving slowly. Lots of videos on youtube. when you are done there will be lots of glue on the screen, but it comes off by carefully rubbing it. Also, as crazy as it sounds wd40 gets rid of the rest. Saw this on youtube and was skeptical, but tried it and it worked. Cleaned the amoled with rubbing alcohol afterwards. I'm currently using my S with just the amoled while I wait for the new glass too arrive. Also, with the new glass, you won't put glue on the amoled, but around the outsides - again, youtube is yourfriend.
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I am also looking forward to replace the glass screen on my i9000 but I couldnt find any youtube video on how to do it. Can you give me a link? I would also like to know what kind of glue is needed. Thanks.
hi folks. i managed to replace my galaxy note front glass with a new one i got from ebay for 19$ and i want to make a step by step guide on how it can be done.
i did it using common tools and a s load of pacience and attention.
the tools i used are: heat gun with hi and low settings, exacto knife set,small phillips and flat screwdrivers, goo gone, and optional a screen protector.
first take the phone apart as it's describet in countless of threads and youtube videos. you should end up with the screen assembly shown in the first picture.
now we have to separate the glassscreen from the frame it sits on. for this we fire up the heat gun.
a few words about using the heat gun.
-my gun had 2 settings: low and high. during all this process i used it on low.
-don't put the gun directly and/or close to the thinn plastic wires that hold the two connectors.
- dont hold the gun in the same place more than 3 seconds, instead swipe the gun around the spot and the screen like u would do with a paint brush when painting.
- dont hold the gun too close, that is closer than 3 inch
-concentrate on the spot u working at but try to heat up the whole screen assembly, as it has to give away from all the points kind of at the same time, and not just the point u working at.
- dont overheat the screen as this will damage the amoled. thats how i got the two yellow spots on my screen. first one by accident and second one intentionaly to see if indeed the overheating is what caused it.
A very good rule for this is dont heat the phone more than you can bear to touch it cause afterall you have to hold the phone while working on it...
the way i did it is :
-i heated up the whole screen assembly, back and front, for a minute or two
- than i started to stick the tip of the exacto knife between the glass and the metal edge that sorrounds it. i started from the upper right corner, the side where the front camera is. see photo 2.
the goal is to unstick the glass from the frame. in photo 3 the frame and the screen is shown without the upper glass. this photo was taken after i finished everything, thats why the screen can be seen inside the frame. but i posted it to show the black sticky tape that its used to hold the glass to the frame. i think is the same kind of sticky tape thats used in all the touchphones including iphone to hold the front glass to the rest of the phone. in photo 4 i unsticked some of the tape to show it better. this tape is the main thing that holds the the glass to the frame. the other thing that hold the screen to the frame is some sticky glue on the back of the screen. but this is much softer and thiner glue. this is the reason why i say to heat up the whole screen assemby including the backside, to make it easyer to unstuck the glass and scren thats glued to it.
- once you get a bit of a foothold in the upper corner between and the glassand the frame you continue the folowing procedure again and again until the glass and screen detaches from the frame:
-every 2 minutes or so , when i feel the asemby cooled down, i'd heat up the whole assembly for 5 seconds or so, than concentrate on the spot i worked on for another 5 seconds, than move/push the exacto knife a bit. dont force it. after a while youl get a feel of it. if the exacto knife happend to be out, i would heat up the blade after heating up everything else, and than put the blade in.
prevent the freed parts from sticking back to the frame by using the rest of the exacto knife blades as shims.
once it detaches it should look like photo 5- the glass glued to the screen.
- now we have to detach or unglue the glass from the screen.
procedure is the same: start somewhere, heat, put knife in, etc... i used a second knife as shim folowing the first knife, and after avery couple moves i would get the knife out and wipe off the epoxy glue. heat the blade and put it back in.
when finished you should have something like photo 6 and 7: free screen covered in glue epoxy residue.
- now we have to get rid of the glue residue. i took the bulk of it usinga flat exacto knife blades like the one in photo 8 and 10. just warm the place a bit with the air gun and scrape it off with the blade. to clean what was left i used a bit of goo gone on a pice of cloth or napkin photo 9.
cleaned screen can be seen in photo 11 - sadly out of focus.
if u are like me and r impatient to test the screen you can just connect with just the side connector like in photo 12 and 13. the upper connector is for the s pen digitizer. side connector is for the screen and touch digitizer.
now all that's left is to put the phone back together except leave the new glass for last.
-first thing is to put the screen(without the glass) back on the frame. try to center it just right, so that ther's a little bit of space between the sides of the screen and the frame.
at this point all that will hold the screen to the frameis the thin layer of glue on the back of the screen. after centering and lowering the screen in the frame procede to put the phone back together folowing in reverse order the same steps used to disasambe it. when finished you should end up with the whole functioning phone except the front glass -as seen in photo 14.
now you can chose to trim and put a screen protector on the scree so as to fill the empty space between the screen and the glass - the space where the glue was, or you can just leave it empty. you can put a screen protector anytime after by removing the glass. which should be much easier to remove now that its held in place only by the blach sticky tape on the edges. just use some suction cap to remove it, starting at an age, and remove it like fliping a page. see photo 16. i used the note for 2 weeks without the screen protector in the empty space and it worked without a problem onlt thing was that when i pushed hard the glass would touch the screen and leave a bit of dirt in that place. thats why i decided to put the screen protector to fill the void. in photo 15 i raised the screen protector to make it visible in the photo.
if you are like me and worry that somehow the glass might fall off the phone you can always get a hard plastic case for the phone, like the one in the pics. it's made of 2 parts. one goes on the back one on the front and they snap togeter around the phone. this will hold the glass in place no matter what while it will also protect the phone.the case is in photos 17 and 18. i got this one of ebay for 8$ and free shipping.
the last thing to be done is:
for some reaseon the touch screen became much more sensitive after removing the glue so you need to lover the touch sensitivity. for this get the touchscreentune app from the market. it works with galaxy note and galaxy s2. put the sensitivity from the recomended 25 to 50.
the best thing about this procedure is that i dont have to worry about the f ing glass anymore. if it brakes again i'l just order another one and in under 2 minutes i can replace it. all i have to do is get the phone case off, put a suction cap on , , remove the old glass , and put the new glass. that's it.
because it takes 4 to 8 hours i would recommend the process to be done in 3-4 sessions as people would get tired after 2 hours of work and tend to lose focus, attention, patience and start to push to get it faster done, and that's when bad stuff happens like yellow spot burn on the screen or small scratches. another thing about scratches, even if u manage to scrach the screen dont worry to much as the scratches are almost invisible when the screen turns on. youl see what i mean ....
i do have one question: WHY DID SAMSUNG DECIDE TO GLUE THE SCREEN TO THE GLASS INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM SEPARATE LIKE ALL THE OTHER TOUCHPHONES?
I do the same for Galaxy S. I removed broken pieces of glass from device using guitar pick and carefully glued a new glass on each side. 9$ (free delivery) on ebay.
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I do the same for Galaxy S. I removed broken pieces of glass from device using guitar pick and carefully glued a new glass on each side. 9$ (free delivery) on ebay.
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what kind of glue did you use? where did u get the glue from? how did u do it?
i didnt glue the glass back to the screen. i just put the glass on the frame. to fill the void where the glue was i trimed a regular screen protector and put it inbetween the glass and the screen. but it works same without it.
Very interesting, I didn't think it was possible because the glass is glued to the SAMOLED panel. I'm very glad that I am wrong.
As much as I hate to think about it, a guide like that would probably come in handy for many of us at some point.
*knocks on wood*
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Very interesting, I didn't think it was possible because the glass is glued to the SAMOLED panel. I'm very glad that I am wrong.
As much as I hate to think about it, a guide like that would probably come in handy for many of us at some point.
*knocks on wood*
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Nothing is impossible with the right tool and know-how . The glue could probably be uncured with a heat gun, just like ipad. The challenge is not damage the panel and make sure it is dust free after put back the replacement.
It is said impossible because of the difficulty involved. If you can't manage to install a screen protector with perfect alignment and zero dust spike, this task is not for you.
@drevilatwork Thank you for writing this step by step guide!
I dropped my phone last night and it landed face down, cracking the glass.
I'm so upset, but I don't think I have the skills or the tools to do this job myself. I am relieved to learn that the glass can be replaced, but do you know whether the Samsung agents are likely to be able to do this?
they probably wont do it. but you can try showing this thread to some technician or phone repair shop and they might do it for you. they also might charge you a lot to the point where it might be more convenient to just buy a new 260$ screen.
looks scary dude
all im going to say is good luck separating the 2 screens without breaking the lcd or scratching the crap out of it ... this is a 90% epic fail method but thumbs up to the few that may succeed or dont mind their screen looking like its been belt sanded...
Its worth a try, since screen replacement costs 230 euros.
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all im going to say is good luck separating the 2 screens without breaking the lcd or scratching the crap out of it ... this is a 90% epic fail method but thumbs up to the few that may succeed or dont mind their screen looking like its been belt sanded...
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actually .. the funny thing is that even if u manage to screch the screen and / or leave dirt behind it doesn't show while the phone is on. it might show when is off but not when is on. i was suprised about that too. and secondly, having to do it again knowing what i know now i would do it without leaving a mark. and in the end is certenly worth a shot before ordering the 260$ screen assembly. the special thing that it requires is pacience and attention.
Why different prices for all the same lenses in this shop ?
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actually .. the funny thing is that even if u manage to screch the screen and / or leave dirt behind it doesn't show while the phone is on. it might show when is off but not when is on. i was suprised about that too. and secondly, having to do it again knowing what i know now i would do it without leaving a mark. and in the end is certenly worth a shot before ordering the 260$ screen assembly. the special thing that it requires is pacience and attention.
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as i said good luck with it and hope you make some money doing it..... ive successfully done the same thing myself but other than it will never look good like a factory screen (not even close), the amount of time it takes to make it look anywhere near acceptable (not like a 10 dollar repair) is big and that makes the repair not really worthwhile doing it for anyone but yourself and even then who spends 700-800 dollars on something and does a repair that makes it look cheap... then theres the whole ordeal of the membrane youre taking the adhesive off of along with the HUGE chance of damaging it.. it is placed with precision and adhered for a reason along with being dust and scratch free... this is a repair that just wont last because things will start functioning improperly for multiple reasons...
im not knocking you or anyone who tries this..im just trying to emphasize the dangers, downfalls and the probability of it being a legit solid repair. also the resale value when the next greatest thing comes along... just beware....
Hmmmm
Well chaps I hate to disagree here, but after speaking to the technical bods at Samsung it appears that the OLED is NOT glued to the glass, but the glass is laminated and bonded in, much like a car windscreen. My screen got broken the other day and I have read the 2 posts on XDA regarding this. Now if you go and have a look at the pics of the other post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487716
you can clearly see the OLED, although broken, seperated from the glass with no sign of any glue. The reason it broke is that upon heating the glass you will melt the glue, which will then stick to the edges of the OLED and if you pry it at the wrong place/time/too hard/whatever you will break the OLED as it is glued to the bezel itself. So when my glass arrives I am going to attempt to remove the glass using fishing line and pulling it between the glass and the bezel and OLED to release it, the same way as I used to remove car windscreens, and post the results here. I have also been told that the reason for the sticky "epoxy" mess that you encountered in this postis from melting the plastic on the back of the glass (which is the lamination!) by using too much heat.....I mean come on, a heat gun is a bit excessive!! Prying the screen out a bit at a time might work, but will surely end in tears, where as cutting the cold adhesive with a fine nylon cable, which wont scratch the OLED, might just work. I'll keep you posted on my results.
Just throwing an idea out there: maybe the adhesive would be easier to defeat when it's really cold, rather than really hot. I know a lot of adhesives become quite brittle when you put them in the freezer, superglue and epoxy for example. And the electronics/plastics of the display could be relatively fine with the low temps.
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Just throwing an idea out there: maybe the adhesive would be easier to defeat when it's really cold, rather than really hot. I know a lot of adhesives become quite brittle when you put them in the freezer, superglue and epoxy for example. And the electronics/plastics of the display could be relatively fine with the low temps.
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this is not one of them...i can guarantee this 100%
learn how a digitizer is made then you might see the light, and not just the light of white trash repair and failure...
ive explained it in great detail many times... and btw just because im a girl doesnt mean what im saying is wrong... 20+ years in the industry gives me sort of a clue as to what im saying..
im trying to help people avoid a long drawn out disaster and to waste $20(which is NOT gorilla glass) plus all of the other things they buy to try to make this a success which will never happen...
and fyi freezers, superglue and epoxys are big no no's...they are not used by any factory so there is another myth busted... they will just add to the destruction... 100% guarantee
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this is not one of them...i can guarantee this 100%
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What do you mean? One of what?
learn how a digitizer is made then you might see the light, and not just the light of white trash repair and failure...
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I know how a digitizer is made.
ive explained it in great detail many times... and btw just because im a girl doesnt mean what im saying is wrong... 20+ years in the industry gives me sort of a clue as to what im saying..
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I had no idea you were a girl and I don't see why that matters. Experience is the industry is of course relevant, if your particular field in the industry was related to repairs. But I don't know if it is?
im trying to help people avoid a long drawn out disaster and to waste $20(which is NOT gorilla glass) plus all of the other things they buy to try to make this a success which will never happen...
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The glass on the Note is Gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
and fyi freezers, superglue and epoxys are big no no's...they are not used by any factory so there is another myth busted... they will just add to the destruction... 100% guarantee
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I didn't say factories use superglue or epoxy, or freezers for that matter. But the fact that factories don't use them doesn't mean it can't work for DIY repairs. Low temperature brittleness isn't exclusive to epoxy or superglue. Many, many glues (and other materials) have that property.
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What do you mean? One of what?
I know how a digitizer is made.
I had no idea you were a girl and I don't see why that matters. Experience is the industry is of course relevant, if your particular field in the industry was related to repairs. But I don't know if it is?
The glass on the Note is Gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
I didn't say factories use superglue or epoxy, or freezers for that matter. But the fact that factories don't use them doesn't mean it can't work for DIY repairs. Low temperature brittleness isn't exclusive to epoxy or superglue. Many, many glues (and other materials) have that property.
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i mean exactly what i wrote... as per your idea... this wasnt one that would work... my god man do i have to spell everything out for you???
obviously you dont know how a digitizer is made or you wouldnt have spouted the crap you have... bottom line
the girl part..well some dont think women know anything..its a culture thing.. but as for you not knowing if my particular field in the industry was related to repairs my god ive only said it multiple times in multiple posts... but since you dont like to read i'll say it again..20+ years board level factory trained.. motorola, audiovox, nokia, samsung... and this is a samsung forum so i think i have my tech qualifications covered here... again READING IS GOOD... work on that...
again you just dont read or have horrible comprehension because i never said the notes screen wasnt gorilla glass i said the $19 one wasnt... seriously every time you type something you dig yourself a deeper hole...
your superglue and epoxy blather just shows you dont have a clue and dont read... really they dont have any place in the screen/lcd part of diy.. its just trouble looking for a place to happen... now if the plastic housing needs repaired maybe but still not a top ten choice... if you had a clue you would know the proper adhesive to use... and its easily found... you are just too much...
seriously...just give it a rest... i wasnt bashing on you and have said it ive also said all im trying to do is help people not make a bad decision... and THIS IS A BAD DECISION...
you want me to play nice (which i really am..most other forums here would have totally lowered the boom on you for spouting crap... ive been really nice.. to keep it that way just go post somewhere where you can be productive... here youre not... im sure you have some great ideas but nothing you have said in this thread is remotely good.. sorry but it is what it is...
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i mean exactly what i wrote... as per your idea... this wasnt one that would work... my god man do i have to spell everything out for you???
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The sentence made no sense considering what it was replying to. Not my fault you were unclear/ambiguous.
obviously you dont know how a digitizer is made or you wouldnt have spouted the crap you have... bottom line
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Ok?
the girl part..well some dont think women know anything..its a culture thing.. but as for you not knowing if my particular field in the industry was related to repairs my god ive only said it multiple times in multiple posts... but since you dont like to read i'll say it again..20+ years board level factory trained.. motorola, audiovox, nokia, samsung... and this is a samsung forum so i think i have my tech qualifications covered here... again READING IS GOOD... work on that...
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Reading is very good, but you can't assume everyone in a public forum has read every single post of yours and remembers every detail. What isn't helping is the lack of proper punctuation and formatting which make your posts unpleasant to read.
again you just dont read or have horrible comprehension because i never said the notes screen wasnt gorilla glass i said the $19 one wasnt... seriously every time you type something you dig yourself a deeper hole...
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Replacement screens are generally OEM parts.
It might appear I'm in a hole, but that's only because I live in Holland and am below sea level. I assure you I haven't done any digging.
your superglue and epoxy blather just shows you dont have a clue and dont read... really they dont have any place in the screen/lcd part of diy.. its just trouble looking for a place to happen... now if the plastic housing needs repaired maybe but still not a top ten choice... if you had a clue you would know the proper adhesive to use... and its easily found... you are just too much...
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I wasn't suggesting to use superglue or epoxy, read it again.
seriously...just give it a rest... i wasnt bashing on you and have said it ive also said all im trying to do is help people not make a bad decision... and THIS IS A BAD DECISION
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I get that, and appreciate your concern. However, you should understand that some people like to try things even when the chance of success is not very high. You seem to be one of us in that regard (you attempted repairs yourself too, right?), so I don't see why it upsets you so much.
you want me to play nice (which i really am..most other forums here would have totally lowered the boom on you for spouting crap... ive been really nice.. to keep it that way just go post somewhere where you can be productive... here youre not... im sure you have some great ideas but nothing you have said in this thread is remotely good.. sorry but it is what it is...
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I don't care if you play nice or not. I appreciate honesty. Now for some honesty in return: you're not helping in this thread.
All you do is say people's ideas are stupid without giving arguments that aren't arguments from authority. And I would very much appreciate it if you would stop misrepresenting my posts (intentional or not).
[SOLUTION] SPen drawing in >specific< portions of the screen >without< touching.
Anybody had this problem? If yes, you did you solve this ?
Really annoying and Samsung just thinks I'm idiot telling me to do things like:
- Change the tips
- Hard Reset
[Solution]
Since nobody gave a damn and I searched REALLY HARD for a solution. I will take one step forward and help anyone who maybe will have this problem in the future.
What you will need:
- Glue ( I recommend a Glue Stick, since it fixes good and can be easily removed.)
- Aluminum Foil
- Scissor
You will have to crop a little rectangle and test in which height of your SPen the foil will stop the problem.
In mine happened this way:
too close to the tip and the pen won't be detected
Too far from the tip and the problem remains.
In this position all functions work as intended. See photo.
Hit thanks if I helped you!
I did not want to use warranty because I will hate to wait weeks without a cellphone.
You can paint the foil for aesthetics purposes as I will manage to do better than I did
The cropped foil can be in the minimum size you achieve to make it work. Foil is very thin so there is no problems in inputting and removing from the slot.
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After several days I tried the pen without the foil stick and surprise ! It works as intended ! As I said eletromagnetism is tricky so you won't want the foil to be permanently glued to your pen.
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Anybody had this problem? If yes, you did you solve this ?
Really annoying and Samsung just thinks I'm idiot telling me to do things like:
- Change the tips
- Hard Reset
Please Help !
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Have you ever dropped the device?
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Have you ever dropped the device?
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Yes , but nothing that would cause severe damage. I always use my case and the problem started quite spontaneously.
And I don't think a fall damage would cause this problems in a perfectly squared portion of the screen
> I can use airviewing( in this square) in a uncommon distance (closer) what is a oxymoron because I write without touching in higher distances (WTH)
TheReal V said:
Anybody had this problem? If yes, you did you solve this ?
Really annoying and Samsung just thinks I'm idiot telling me to do things like:
- Change the tips
- Hard Reset
[Solution]
Since nobody gave a damn and I searched REALLY HARD for a solution. I will take one step forward and help anyone who maybe will have this problem in the future.
What you will need:
- Glue ( I recommend a Glue Stick, since it fixes good and can be easily removed.)
- Aluminum Foil
- Scissor
You will have to crop a little rectangle and test in which height of your SPen the foil will stop the problem.
In mine happened this way:
too close to the tip and the pen won't be detected
Too far from the tip and the problem remains.
In this position all functions work as intended. See photo.
Hit thanks if I helped you!
I did not want to use warranty because I will hate to wait weeks without a cellphone.
You can paint the foil for aesthetics purposes as I will manage to do better than I did
The cropped foil can be in the minimum size you achieve to make it work. Foil is very thin so there is no problems in inputting and removing from the slot.
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Please change the beginning of your solution section. Comes off very condescending and people do give a damn. Considering that I posted a question to you about it at 130am my time, and people probably just didn't have anything to say as they might not have an idea as to why the issue was happening, or didn't get a chance to browse the forum as yet.
Good hack either way with the aluminum foil. Does it cause any issues with charging the method of the pen? Have you used to pen to depletion and then see if it charges after?
Jammol said:
Please change the beginning of your solution section. Comes off very condescending and people do give a damn. Considering that I posted a question to you about it at 130am my time, and people probably just didn't have anything to say as they might not have an idea as to why the issue was happening, or didn't get a chance to browse the forum as yet.
Good hack either way with the aluminum foil. Does it cause any issues with charging the method of the pen? Have you used to pen to depletion and then see if it charges after?
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Well, been using it for a few hours and I got no interference in bluetooth functions and neither in the recharging by induction. But what you said about recharging made me think that the smaller the foil crop... the better.
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Well, been using it for a few hours and I got no interference in bluetooth functions and neither in the recharging by induction. But what you said about recharging made me think that the smaller the foil crop... the better.
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Nice. Have you thought of moving the hack into the pen? That'll be awesome to do and aid with aesthetics. I haven't gone to the point of taking one apart but it's probably just some 3m glue being used to hold the unit together.
Jammol said:
Nice. Have you thought of moving the hack into the pen? That'll be awesome to do and aid with aesthetics. I haven't gone to the point of taking one apart but it's probably just some 3m glue being used to hold the unit together.
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That is something to consider but I don't feel comfortable messing with the insides of SPen since it's so fragile and intend to be water resistant. Maybe if I had more knowledge about it's structure...
3M glue I can say is something you won't desire. I wouldn't stick something permanently in/on the Spen. Electromagnetism is kind of tricky so the solution today can be the problem tomorrow. So easy removal should be preferred.
I use Gnacad quite a bit and the best I've achieved so far is to put the floating icon in the trash can (long press it) that seems to tone down it's sensitivity but it is still sensitive to the temperature and wether the screen sensitivity setting is set to screen protector or not and of course if a screen protector is used which I no longer use (paid for the gorilla might as well enjoy it.!
Photo's[emoji2398] by Sully using SM-N960U or SM-870A
sullytrny said:
I use Gnacad quite a bit and the best I've achieved so far is to put the floating icon in the trash can (long press it) that seems to tone down it's sensitivity but it is still sensitive to the temperature and wether the screen sensitivity setting is set to screen protector or not and of course if a screen protector is used which I no longer use (paid for the gorilla might as well enjoy it.!
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YES ! I just think exactly the same about the Gorilla Glass. I'm not paying for this and covering with some cheaper glass protector. I just take good care of my screen and it looks amazing !
Did you have this same ''drawing'' problem? Excuse my ignorance but... What is Gnacad?