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battery broke my flash procedure??

Hello folks, this is my verry verry first post so sorry if its not conform the rules
a few weeks ago my phone fell on the floor, and the battery acts weird.
It shuts off after i call 3 minutes claiming the battery to be epty, but when i remove the battery and put it back in again, it shows as full.
two days ago i messed up my phone and i thought well i flash it back
(note: i flashed my madonna before and it always went well)
But now, it flashes all the way to 80% or sometimes even 99% and then it shuts off, starting to blink the tricoloured bootscreen on and off.
when i put in the AC charger it stops blinking showing the tricolour screen steady.
ive been searching for ways to flash the phone from SD-Card so i can kepe the AC-Charger connected, but all i can find on the net is a way to backup the old rom to SD-Card and reflash it from that?
But.. i cant access the old rom anymore?
its from the wizard wiki page
I'm seriously thinking i have a rather expensive paper press, please tell me there's ways to fix it using SD-Card?
i cant order a new battery untill 3 weeks from now, which i really cant survive without my companion hehehe

just turn your phone on and flash it with rom again

The problem is your battery doesn't have enough charge and might be going bad. It will charge on the wall charger even though the tricolor screen is showing, but I believe it charges slowly. Try letting it charge overnight.
I had a similar problem and now my phone is fine.
You can order a new battery for under $10 from ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Cingular-HTC-81...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

same problem
I have the same problem. Loaded the battery for a whole night, but still it stops at 80% or so....
My battery had huge powerdrain, especcially using bluetooth, before flashing.
I orderded a new one, still waiting. I'll let know if it soves the problem.
If there are any onther experiences i'll be happy to read.

well, so far no luck.
sopme say, the printplate broke, (the greenish thingy with all the odd meganics on them?)
other say there's a transistor mallfunctioning, and some others even dare say its nokia's fault (dont ask me why!) for now, i simply believe im stuck with a rather expensive paperweight
even tho i tried charging it for 3 days nonstop, put the battery in the fridge, nothing worked, i guess ill mail T-Mobile seeing as how im due to prolong my contract, amybe they can do me a favor instead of making me wait a few more months

how to reecharge battery
1. get a hold of a USB cable for the computer(one that you dont usually use)
2. (not connected to the computer) you would need to cut off the end that plugs in you phone and then you will see 4 different wires. you will only be using the red and black wire so just strip those two.
3. take the battery off the phone, plug you phone to the wall charger w/out the battery, and connect the USB wire to you computer(make sure the red and black wires are not touching)
4. touch the red and black wires to the positive and negative end of the battery(the battery has labels of which one is the positive and negative part)
5. hold it there for 10 secs then quickly transfer the battery into the phone. after 3 secs of being in the phone, it should start right up.
this steps also depends on how long your battery has been dead. the maximum time you would do this is 3 times. after that and still not working, thats a confirmation of your battery being a done.

Problem with startup 6515 - need advice

Chaps
Yesterday my 6515 stopped cooperate with me! Totally!
- I didn't dropped him or physically damaged,
- The battery was charged in 85% just before it was switched off itself
- Back cover closed with no gaps between cover and body
- Was fully functional when suddenly switched off
- I didn't upgraded anythihng before.
Symptoms:
- Ipaq is not reacting on start button
- Not reacting on reset
- Not reacting on hard reset
- The left diode blinking red during charging via usb cradle when I’m pressing power up button
- The same happens with regular charger
- During charging with regular charger when I’m opening the back panel the diode stop blink and become flash continuously in red.
I have already tried almost everything to start it up:
Changed the battery,
Open, close the back battery panel
With and without SD card
Appreciate any HELP!

small update
Ok I have made some progress..
Now I can see the bootloader screen and that's it.
What to do next ???

Im not sure what blinking red means but when you remove the backcover, the red led will lite up.
Try to do a hard reset, and see if it restarts without going to bootloader. Otherwise, you will probably need to upgrade the firmware from the bootloader screen. Download the latest rom updates from hp.

cluurk said:
Im not sure what blinking red means but when you remove the backcover, the red led will lite up.
Try to do a hard reset, and see if it restarts without going to bootloader. Otherwise, you will probably need to upgrade the firmware from the bootloader screen. Download the latest rom updates from hp.
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Thanks for reply
Indeed! When I opened back cover the led become flash continuously!
I have tried to apply the rom update from HP unfortunately all of the updates have to be done through Active sync!
It is impossible in current situation because of pressing Power+Joystick+Reset the ootloader screen appear but then nothing This is happens only when PDA is charging with regular charger. Using USB charge or battery power I can't even start the bootloader screen.
From where can I download the SD bootable image or how to make it?

And again small step ahead:
Hi
And again small step ahead:
In craddle there is another input for power so I managed to power it up and connect.
I had to switch of firewall (otherwise i have error 601 - unable to connect the device or something simmillar) and reinstall Active sync back to 3.8
Got bootloader screen USB and hp logo and v 021
by running romupdate utility downloaded from hp site ( whatever the version is ) I finally recognized my model version: it is 6515c
Next
Found valid version from HP site for 6515c ( i think 1.21) and successfully upgraded. No breaks, no other issues just successfully uploadede into finish.
Then hard reset and......
The system starts, screen flashes up, system start loading and the screen fading out. ... and again ..... and again ...... and again and the nothing!
I have tried again to pull out back cover, remove batery, put it back after some time, place back the cover and again.
Nothin' Nada Null %$#@%!$#ing piece of junk.
BTW it is happening only where PDA it is connected to AC power. On battery system is not booting, no booloader nothing!
Any suggestions? Pleeeeeeeease!

After you upgraded the firmware and it started up, was this done with the pda on AC or battery power? If its on battery and it starts fading, your battery is probably screwed. Did you also know there are 2 batteries in the IPaq?
Oh and if its a battery problem, you will need to leave the battery+pda connected to the AC for a while before it can startup and probably into booloader. Run your firmware upgrade again and power it on with the AC connected! If it boots up fine, then monitor the battery status bars in the Power settings and see if both the LiIon and NiMh batteries are holding charge. Hopefully from here you can find a dead battery.
Another thing you could try is to reset the battery when in bootloader mode once you are certain its the battery
http://blogs.unbolt.net/index.php/brinley/2006/08/02/howto_reset_discharged_battery_for_ipaq_6515

Battery reset? Could might be the issue?
Hi
I really appreciate your response.
The whole upgrade and the other stuff have been done with inserted battery and AC connected.
I plugged the PDA into the cradle which was connected to PC via USB and I plugged also AC into the cradle AC input.
It is fading just after reboot only when the iPAQ is connected to AC power (of course battery is inserted otherwise it will not startup anyway.)
On pure battery power it doesn’t giving any signs of living whatever button has been pressed.
The link you provided might contain very valuable directions to me. The man is learning within whole life and dying still being stupid.
I thought that I read the info from the site you suggested but I probably missed the meaning of the post regarding battery reset. That might be this. I will check and update you very soon.

I did the steps from above link. The iPAQ rebooted, started to load the os and again faded out….
Question to everybody:
During bootloader screen appear should I have any diode flashing blinking or whatever
I’m asking because of mine is blind!
Nothing is flashing, blinking, beaming or shining. Just two, completely dead diodes.

Hi, I've just found out what flashing red means
"green blinking means GSM coverage, yellow blinking - missed reminder or alarm clock signal, permanent yellow - recharging, green - the battery is full, red blinking means greatly discharged battery, pale blue blinking - Bluetooth is on"
I think one of your batteries is dead, and if you have already replaced to LiIon battery then you'll probably have to try to replace the NiMh one inside. I cant think of anything else to try

Battery????
Damn!
I think I have a hardware problem! I have 2 batteries: one brand new and the old one. Both not working! Moreover they're not charging! They suppose to charge when I put PDA into the craddle or directly plug to AC charger but they aren't.
No diode is flashing during charging. Damn.
I will try to borrow one battery from one of my friend just to check if this is it!
I will let you know later on.

If I recall correctly, the charging led does not light up in bootloader mode. I maybe wrong though. I think you should try to check the voltage in the LiIon battery to determine if they are being charged.
Also you never mentioned checking the backup NiMh battery. I believe that the NiMh battery is required to power up of the ipaq as well so it may be the cause of your ipaq dying after starting up.

NiMh backup battery
Fortunately I know someone who can charge the battery for me. There will be no problem with that.
From the other side I'm worry about the phone charging....
Why I can't charge the battery using iPAQ?
Next you mentioned about "NiMh battery". I'm sorry for my ignorance but what is that?
Is it secondary battery ?????
Is there any way to charge or replace it? Is it pluggable battery? Where is located?

Yes there is a secondary battery. However, I do not know where it is either.
Here is an example from a different PDA
http://paulstravelpictures.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4700-PDA-Backup-Battery-Replacement-Guide/index.html
If you want to open up your IPAQ do it at your OWN RISK!

cluurk said:
Yes there is a secondary battery. However, I do not know where it is either.
Here is an example from a different PDA
http://paulstravelpictures.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4700-PDA-Backup-Battery-Replacement-Guide/index.html
If you want to open up your IPAQ do it at your OWN RISK!
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You don't need to touch that one, this battery is designed for save your data when you exchange the main battery.

commanddos said:
Damn!
I think I have a hardware problem! I have 2 batteries: one brand new and the old one. Both not working! Moreover they're not charging! They suppose to charge when I put PDA into the craddle or directly plug to AC charger but they aren't.
No diode is flashing during charging. Damn.
I will try to borrow one battery from one of my friend just to check if this is it!
I will let you know later on.
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Commadnnos,
Sound like your 6515 has battery charging problem. If the charging failed, even you have brand new battery, it won't be charged at all.
Since you have two batteries, you might want to buy a external battery charger to prove those two batteries are good.
I think the charge circuit is in the second PCB board which under the keyboard inside your 6515; if those batteries are good, you might want to buy a dead 6515 and replace it by yourself...
Cheers,

watchsat said:
Commadnnos,
Sound like your 6515 has battery charging problem. If the charging failed, even you have brand new battery, it won't be charged at all.
Since you have two batteries, you might want to buy a external battery charger to prove those two batteries are good.
I think the charge circuit is in the second PCB board which under the keyboard inside your 6515; if those batteries are good, you might want to buy a dead 6515 and replace it by yourself...
Cheers,
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Well Well Well ..... it is getting wormer. Many thanks to everyone who are still trying to help me out. Thanks again.
Is that mean the secondary battery is located under the keyboard? I saw the photos from unassembled 6515 and it looks like the secondary battery. To replace it you have to first remove 3 screws, unplug the LCD and remove whole main board.
Is that means that the charging circuit has been built in the keyboard plate?

Thank You all. Patient died......
I would like to thank everyone for help. I think we can close this thread over here.
My beetle just went out into the "digital heaven".
The HP support specialist ensured me (without any tips or hints from my side) that mainly there is a problem with passing the power from the charger to the battery which means no more no less like ".... dude your motherboard is screwed. You have to get the new one or whatever...!"
So now it is a time for selling the rest of the parts on auctions......
R.I.P (Rust In Peace)

if the red light blinks
1 your battery has problem
or
2 your battery cover has problem. The plastic part on the back of your battery cover may have broken which touchs the microswith on the mainboard.
if that microswitch is not triggered , the hw65xx,hw69xx will not turn on.

Another brick in the Wall... :-( Needing help with Wizard

Shortly: I flashed a new rom (not so new... Mameli 2.0 with WM6.1) and the upgrade process stuck on 99%, computer saying "All Done"
No so... trying to reboot the Wizard gets up the bootloader screen... no problem, will you say BUT... I was in a hurry so I leave the USB cable connected and go away for a few hours (I suppose the USB cable may keep powered the device but now I guess no... )
So, when I came back, the Wizard was turned off.
First try was soft resetting the device with no success: screen remains black.
Then I try to connect the power supply and nothing happened...
Then I pull off the battery and keep it off for a few seconds... I was googling with the device in this state when the bootloader screen pops up for not more then 15 seconds then blank again...
No way to enter bootloader mode or to hard reset the device...
I suppose the battery goes almost flat... and I've not a cradle... is there any way to charge the battery? or a way to build up a cradle-substitute?
May be the issue due to battery flat?
Thanks, Pino

Try plugging in to the original charger, not a USB cable, with the power off.
After about a minute you should see the orange LED turn on.
At least that has worked for me when my battery has been dead.

Nothing... It was already done... I suppose the charging doesn't happen if the OS didn't load... even if I read about some stating that if the charger supplies 1.0A the charge happens...
Now I'm trying to charge the battery with "alternatives" methods...
Thank you for your interest

and so?!?!?
So much lurking... noone writing?
Ideas welcome....

I've done something similar to this too, i.e., where battery gets so low that phone cannot start charging cycle.
Here is what I have done. Take note on the battery of the positive and negative terminals (clearly marked on battery). Use a regular 9V battery and some wire (or 9V connector) and connect the 9V to the phone battery (+ to + and - to -). Allow the phone battery to recharge some from the 9V. I suggest connecting for about 1 minute or so and then disconnecting again for 1 minute or so, and repeat this cycle a dozen times or (or more) using this 50% duty cycle charging. (not sure about charging current, nor heating of battery and don't want to overheat or damage the phone battery).
After giving the phone battery some (re)charging, then try plugging phone in to see if charging cycle comes on. (try first without trying to turn on the phone. If no response then try turning phone on while plugged in to USB). Generally makes no difference whether using USB plugged into computer, original charger or after market, ... phone does not, nor cannot discriminate between different 5V 'USB' sources.
If this doesn't work then the next step is to carefully touch the 9 V to the battery while in the phone and connected to USB (and to play this safe use charger, and not computer USB ... don't want to risk damage to computer). I would only try this if you feel extremely comfortable with electronics and voltages (albeit this is very low voltage) and as a last resort. KEEP IN MIND YOU WILL BE DOING THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK, and I don't want to be blamed for anything that may go wrong with the phone or otherwise by you trying this. This has worked for me on several occassions, but I am an engineer who has experimented with electronic ciruits off and on for 16 + years and so feel comfortable doing stuff like this. (again remember + to + and - to -, battery to battery).
Good Luck

First of all... Thanks for replying...
The problem isn't due to battery too much empty (it's a frequent issue, with mobile phones too...)
I suppose the Wizard needs be correctly initialized to start charging the battery and mine was in bootloader mode.
Sometimes I am able to power up the system for a little while and the bootloader screen appears but the battery doesn't charges so I cannot disconnect the power supply... this is why I suppose I'd get better times if I got a cradle.
Now I'm trying to arrange a flying connection between the battery and my kaiser's desktop charger to give the battery a bit of charge and verify my ipotesys (uh-oh... it's correctly spelled? sorry for my bad english....)
OK, wish me luck
stay tuned...

OK, no more bricked
The issue, as I supposed, was due to a flat battery!!!
I tried unsuccessfully to charge it back using the external charger for my Kaiser, probably the unsuccess was due to difficult to obtain a stable contact between charger pins and battery leads...
After that I remembered I had another battery. It wasn't used for a bit of months (I use the wizard just as backup, when the Kaiser is out of order) but luckily I stored it full charged so the battery was able to make my wizard power up (strange thing, I needed to keep the power button pressed as the device powers down as soon as I release the button!!!)
I tried to update the rom again but it failed at 99% so now I reverted to an old rom but the device is still alive...
Maybe I'll try again the update but not before having fully charged both batteries
See You and thanks to everyone tried to help...
Pino

Battery problem

Hey guys.I just got my Xperia X1 and I noticed that even if I charged my phone to 100% after I unplug the cable (I use my USB cable to charge it) that battery meter goes to 95% the second I unplug it.If I send a text or two it will go lower.By the end of the day it will be around 50-60% left.I tried looking for a fix about that but nothing came up.
Is that a common problem for the X1?BTW the phone is brand new and the battery is the original one that came with the phone.
Thank you in advance

First I think you must charge your (new?) battery at least ten times to get full capacity. Secondly I think I remember there's a way to calibrate the battery. Look in settings or even better the manual or perhaps best, search the forums.
GL,A.D

Thank you for your answer.I checked the forum but not much came up about recalibration.I checked the phones settings and I can't find anything about batery calibration

are you on a stock rom or a custom one?
also if you leave your xperia plugged in once it reaches 100% i believe it simply stops charging, so the moment you unplug it you "real" battery percentage!

No I am using a custom ROM.I always unpluged the phone when it says full next to the battery metter.

thats why I don't like charging via USB - it's unreliable and slow, always was
if someone knows how to solve that with a recalibration pls tell

I think its a problem of usb charging. I get this problem when I charge my phone with usb. I havent had this problem on charger. Maybe you usb is a bit lower voltage, so the battery isnt fully charged, but its not charging anymore so the percentage is set to 100% and rapidly decreases after short usage.
I think if you use a charger and do charge your batter a few times full with charger, the memory effect should go away.

Just correcting lpgsk, it's not the voltage, but the electric current of the USB. If I'm not wrong the charger has a 500mA current.

charger output 700mA @ 5v
My suggestion is, if you have to charge it on USB, you should charge it when its off. The charging current should he higher since part of the energy wont be used to keep mobile standby. Therefor it should be able to get more power to battery.
2nd option, buy USB mini Y-cable. It is 1 miniUSB -> 2 USB cable. So you put the other end to 2 USB slots for more power.
like this:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-A-Male-to-Mini-5-Pin-Y-Cable-for-external-hard-Disk_W0QQitemZ330414581897QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_USB_Cables?hash=item4cee3e6889
this could help, but no waranty it would

al3x3y said:
Thank you for your answer.I checked the forum but not much came up about recalibration.I checked the phones settings and I can't find anything about batery calibration
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It must have been my memory who failed me this time. I can't find any way to calibrate battery either. Sorry for that!
Saw that you're running on a custom rom so I guess the phone is not brand new. Question raised is, how old is the battery?
Searched Ebay for whatever to my x2 and found the batteries (same in X1/X2) damn cheap (fakes or not). Why not buy a new battery and test?

Avarell_Dalton said:
It must have been my memory who failed me this time. I can't find any way to calibrate battery either. Sorry for that!
Saw that you're running on a custom rom so I guess the phone is not brand new. Question raised is, how old is the battery?
Searched Ebay for whatever to my x2 and found the batteries (same in X1/X2) damn cheap (fakes or not). Why not buy a new battery and test?
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Hey there.The phone was brand new when I got it.It came with the standard WM 6.5 I just installed a new ROM.I tried charging via the wall charger and it seems that the battery lasts WAY longer then charging throw the USB cable.
Thanks a lot guys
PS:One thing (has nothing to do with the battery but I don't want a new thread for that).All my received text messages are with a different time then my phone.I would say around 3-5 hours difference.I searched online and I found more people with this problem but I cannot find a fix for it.Any suggestions?
Thanks again to all of you that answered

Anyone??!!

Dead Phone (doesn't charge?)

Hi,
I was using my phone until my battery completely died then when I finally plugged it was so low that it couldn't turn on so it kept restarting
for infinity amount of times, then it got even worse now it doesn't even do that it just show some battery icon with red color as low and some plug in the center of it that keeps flashing for couple of seconds and turn on and keeps repeating if I plug it in or press power button but no matter for how long I'll leave it plugged nothing will happen...
Any possible fix, thanks in advance.
P.S. It's such a BS tbh if it was so low why would it automatically try to switch on instead of waiting some time allowing the battery to charge at least 5%...

Same problem!
F-L-Y-E-R said:
Hi,
I was using my phone until my battery completely died then when I finally plugged it was so low that it couldn't turn on so it kept restarting
for infinity amount of times, then it got even worse now it doesn't even do that it just show some battery icon with red color as low and some plug in the center of it that keeps flashing for couple of seconds and turn on and keeps repeating if I plug it in or press power button but no matter for how long I'll leave it plugged nothing will happen...
Any possible fix, thanks in advance.
P.S. It's such a BS tbh if it was so low why would it automatically try to switch on instead of waiting some time allowing the battery to charge at least 5%...
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Hey, F-L-Y-E-R, I have the same problem here.. Have you figured out what's the problem? Thank you for your help!

gigonjic.gigic said:
Hey, F-L-Y-E-R, I have the same problem here.. Have you figured out what's the problem? Thank you for your help!
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Hi, I did. In my case it's faulty charging port (I don't know what happened to it) but it's still possible to charge the phone if you insert the cable the right way.
I randomly fixed it by trying to plug/unplug the cable and at some point that battery with the flashing plug changed color to green disappeared and became standard white battery which shows charging progress so basically you can live with that as it's only tricky when the battery is too low as long as you always keep the phone charged and don't let it die but I still wake up sometimes in the morning with my battery on the same % so it's not a permanent fix you will probably need to change the port... Even though by searching the internet people say it's related to the battery not properly being connected i.e. has lose contacts etc.
P.S. I use original charging cable, I thought the cable might be broken so bought an expensive one from Amazon but for some reason it doesn't work.

F-L-Y-E-R said:
Hi, I did. In my case it's faulty charging port (I don't know what happened to it) but it's still possible to charge the phone if you insert the cable the right way.
I randomly fixed it by trying to plug/unplug the cable and at some point that battery with the flashing plug changed color to green disappeared and became standard white battery which shows charging progress so basically you can live with that as it's only tricky when the battery is too low as long as you always keep the phone charged and don't let it die but I still wake up sometimes in the morning with my battery on the same % so it's not a permanent fix you will probably need to change the port... Even though by searching the internet people say it's related to the battery not properly being connected i.e. has lose contacts etc.
P.S. I use original charging cable, I thought the cable might be broken so bought an expensive one from Amazon but for some reason it doesn't work.
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My brother's nokia 8 has this problem, too. One side of usb-c charges well (c > 2 Amperes), other side doesn't (c < 0.1 A). No problem on the cable, because it works well with my phone. I tried to clean the usb socket with alcohol and soft paper but no result.

Try a higher power charger
Dr. Slump said:
My brother's nokia 8 has this problem, too. One side of usb-c charges well (c > 2 Amperes), other side doesn't (c < 0.1 A). No problem on the cable, because it works well with my phone. I tried to clean the usb socket with alcohol and soft paper but no result.
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My phone had this same issue and the work around was just getting a strong Note 8 Original charger, I connected it to the Nokia 8 and gave it some time and boom, All is well. weaker chargers no longer charge and will spoil your phone just get a strong charger